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This Will Destroy Your 2 Stroke Engine EVERY TIME!

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Vintage Engine Repairs

Vintage Engine Repairs

Күн бұрын

One of the most common mistakes I see people make when rebuilding small engines is incorrect installation of the crankshaft oil seals. This mistake will eventually lead to a destroyed 2 stroke engine every time!
In this video I show the correct method on how to install 2 stroke oil seals, what tools you’ll need (you’ll likely already have at home!) and the pitfalls you must avoid making to install oil seals correctly. It doesn’t matter if you are repairing a Honda Leafblower or Stihl chainsaw, a husqvarna lawn mower or echo weed eater; regardless of what small engine you’re repairing, the process is the same every time!
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#2stroke #stihl #Husqvarna #smallenginerepair #carburetor #chainsawman
00:00 This will seize your 2 stroke engine!
00:15 What is an oil seal?
00:26 How to do a vacuum test
01:05 Avoid prolapsing an oil seal
01:41 Caulking nozzle for oil seal installation
02:20 Using an aluminum can to install oil seals
02:50 Using an OEM oil seal sleeve
03:10 Machining an oil seal sleeve
03:45 How to install a 2 stroke oil seal
05:00 How to adjust a carburetor

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@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
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@308dad8
@308dad8 8 ай бұрын
The hell are you talking about? 2 stroke engines don’t have crankcase oil, they get all piling from their fuel.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
@@308dad8 if you had asked more politely I’d explain your mistake to you..
@IndianaDoug
@IndianaDoug 8 ай бұрын
Great video as always 👍🏻
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
@@IndianaDoug thanks mate :)
@watup110875
@watup110875 6 ай бұрын
I have thrown many away because I didn't know about that
@drmikeyb1
@drmikeyb1 8 ай бұрын
You know as a disabled vet I've been going through different Stihl certifications to work on warranty work. I've learned so much from this channel I wanted to thank you for your time you put into these. I could probably ask you 100 questions regarding chain saws and weed eaters. My problem is I get to frustrated to easily, I like perfection the 1st time around but learned really quick that's not how it goes. Again thank you.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, I’m glad you enjoy my channel :) yes, taking a step back and not getting frustrated is a learnt skill for many of us, myself included!
@RustyClam
@RustyClam 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service. I’ve worked on many different kinds of engines, car engines lawn equipment. Just keep after it before you know it you’ll be the go to Guy.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
@@RustyClam 👍
@markespinoza7090
@markespinoza7090 7 ай бұрын
Sometimes you gotta bang your head a little to find the right way
@Mael01369
@Mael01369 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service, I’m sorry that the spineless leaders of our country aren’t serving you the way you served the country.
@joeTM51
@joeTM51 5 ай бұрын
The best oil seal insertion tool for me has always been a piece of xray film, used similar to the can but 100% safer. Plus you can inset it over the step to the bearing so that the seal moves in smoothly
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍👍
@jimbrewer2893
@jimbrewer2893 8 ай бұрын
When I worked on specialized equipment, we used green Loctite 609 on the outer race of bearings. It held the bearing in place and acted as a seal as well. These were larger shaft bearings. One good thing about 609 is it's anerobic and it cures fairly quickly.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
I like and use 609 :) thanks for sharing!
@gordonliddy9418
@gordonliddy9418 7 ай бұрын
@@VintageEngineRepairs I like you, I like to be man handled.
@AnthemBassMan
@AnthemBassMan 8 ай бұрын
Excellent tip for future reference! While I’m not rebuilding a chainsaw, I’ll be rebuilding the engine on my 1978 LawnBoy 5277. Pretty much the same deal though with it being a 2 stroke. But if I ever need to reseal the engines on my chainsaw, trimmers, or blower, I’ll definitely keep this tip filed away in the back of my mind.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it!!
@donjohnson3701
@donjohnson3701 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, I learn as much a I can from videos like yours about maintaining my equipment. I haven’t run into anyone talking about this preventive maintenance, so thanks. It should save many small engines from an early failure! Good job, mate! From the US.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words :) glad you enjoyed the video!
@beingthere597
@beingthere597 8 ай бұрын
Greetings from the other side of the world, rural Arkansas to be exact. Wonderful video on perhaps the most neglected aspect of two stroke engines. In fact, this problem was my introduction to chainsaw repair and the start of a great hobby. It's rewarding to see someone else using Dirko on the outer edge instead of grease, as most do. Dirko acts as a lubricant when wet and forms a seal much better than grease when dry. One thing I might add: a twisted tube of thin, flexible plastic, such as the sturdy plastic bags that dog food or cat litter come in, can also be used to get the seal over ledges safely, and it's a universal fit. Thanks, Tom!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing another sleeve idea! That’s cool :) yep; I never use grease on the outer lip; some seals don’t have a tight fit, it helps keep them in sometimes too!
@mikespain8655
@mikespain8655 8 ай бұрын
Great tip. Most people don't even know how to pressure and vacuum test, or that it is even needed. Merry Christmas!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike! I agree, and some others that do know are too lazy to do one LOL
@rogergodin6443
@rogergodin6443 6 ай бұрын
Using grease in the cavity of the gator spring will keep the spring in place upon impact with a seal driver , used them every time when replacing crank,cam, and heavy truck wheel seals, never a problem after 45 years ,roger cheers from Canada
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@tinkeringtaylor3053
@tinkeringtaylor3053 8 ай бұрын
no wonder your subscribers are going up Tom, putting out good tips like this one 👌👍
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
You’re very kind, thanks Nev!
@Cheezeball99999
@Cheezeball99999 6 ай бұрын
One could also 3D print a seal install tool, so long as they sufficiently sand/polish the OD. Layer lines wouldn't play nicely with the seal. Resin printing would make a very smooth install tool, but most of us don't have resin printers.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Yep! That would work; I’m sure. Best to use a file so you don’t get sanding grit stuck in the plastic :)
@JennandChad19
@JennandChad19 7 ай бұрын
Super great info! everyone should also know, NEVER run the fuel tank dry. always stop and add fuel and take a break. sthil weedeater here 13 years 0 work or adjustments and I "hot rod abuse" my equipment.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! It’s not a good idea to run them dry if you can avoid it :)
@billyfoster3139
@billyfoster3139 7 ай бұрын
I have never heard this, what is the reason for not running til dry (aside from any trash in bottom of tank entering engine) ?
@JennandChad19
@JennandChad19 7 ай бұрын
You create a (lean condition) each time you do this. it adds up to small amounts of wear that erode the cylinder walls. Iv been abusing 2 stroke equipment for over 20 years and had an old timer tell me this. Ive, never damaged a piston, After all if you run the engine dry each time, you run without oil for just a second, and it adds up. Just food for thought.
@michaelwhitehead1373
@michaelwhitehead1373 7 ай бұрын
It is hard, ..... to not like your videos when they are so informing. I hate watching them because I don't necessarily want to become a small engine repairman! :.))) Thanks, and have a pleasant 2024.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Haha thanks mate :)
@metalandwood4u
@metalandwood4u 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video ! Love the transition from oak tree garden to figure video demonstration. Nice to put a face, and accent as well, to the name as ive seen your comments before ! Well, not an oak, but from the big tree garden.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video :)
@Magoot2456
@Magoot2456 24 күн бұрын
Dude the caulking nozzle is genius! Ive been using a piece of plastic from a water bottle :) while the water bottle works, your way looks much better! Im adopting your way now :)
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 24 күн бұрын
Haha awesome, glad it helped!!
@Donuts_random_stuff
@Donuts_random_stuff 8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, I have a chainsaw that doesn’t work and I’m planning to see if I can fix it. I already know I would have made this mistake because I didn’t know about this.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Glad it helped you, that’s awesome!
@turbodog99
@turbodog99 4 ай бұрын
Wow. An excellent video that wasn't "ethanol scaremongering". Thumbs up!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 4 ай бұрын
Thank you :) thankfully we don’t have ethanol here so I couldn’t do an ethanol video anyway 🤣👍
@whosaidthat5236
@whosaidthat5236 7 ай бұрын
That’s a great tip. I was thinking of using a socket . I do residential siding so I have lots of silicone sitting around
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Perfect :) glad it helped!
@BrucesShop
@BrucesShop 4 ай бұрын
I enjoy making my own tools. Thanks Tom
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 4 ай бұрын
Right on Bruce!
@grampabadger
@grampabadger 7 ай бұрын
I was certified to work on Stihl saws by the manufacturer and saw several unfortunate failures caused by owners who refused to read the owner's manual. One fellow removed the flywheel to change a chain (totally unnecessary) then put it back together improperly. Internal parts rubbed through the plastic casing and destroyed the automatic oiler. Saw was junked. Another ran the saw on straight gas and seized the piston. Saw several of those. It was not surprising that some users just refused to accept they were the problem, even though they refused to learn about the saws.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
We need warning labels for everything now days! Thanks for sharing :)
@almclean4835
@almclean4835 8 ай бұрын
Great info Tom, never used the caulk tip trick but will now 👍
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Great to hear Al!
@cjod33
@cjod33 6 ай бұрын
Love it. It's tips like these that makes the difference between a good tradesman and a great tradesman.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it!
@NotALot-xm6gz
@NotALot-xm6gz 8 ай бұрын
Oh, that’s an excellent tip for getting seals over shoulders intact.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@RobsChannel-dc1nn
@RobsChannel-dc1nn 4 ай бұрын
Awesome tip, thanks for sharing. Ontario, Canada.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 4 ай бұрын
You’re welcome, thank you!
@Whateva67
@Whateva67 8 ай бұрын
Nice 066. I still run a beast 066 here in British Columbia. I was running my saw a few years ago and it would die when idling. Dropped it off at Walkers saw shop and they found the crank seals leaking,tore it down,new seals,thing runs great again.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Great! I have seen some of Donnys videos, good stuff!
@jackrichards1863
@jackrichards1863 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the most important information that I did not know about my saws. And that's going to save me a good deal of money !
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
@4u2cJoeD
@4u2cJoeD 7 ай бұрын
the sleeve on a NGK spark plug works on the Husqvarna. Caulking tube nozzle is fantastic.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Ha awesome, I didn’t know that re the plug sleeves!
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 7 ай бұрын
You can ether burn up a piston or do a simple vacuum and pressure test. Sometimes leaks show up with the vacuum test and sometimes the pressure test is needed, remember dimensions change with temperature. I’ve done hundreds of those with a piece of plastic bag or thin piece of plastic. I only used sealant a few times if the seat was questionable.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing. I have never had a seal that’s failed on pressure then hold on vacuum though.
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 7 ай бұрын
@@VintageEngineRepairs I’ve had a few do it with rotation and a few stationary. From what I’ve heard it’s extremely rare to have one seal under vacuum and not under pressure and when it does happen it usually doesn’t affect the way the saw runs. I don’t know how true that is but I was just use to doing all the checks and making sure whatever I worked on was a 100% before I released it. I was a heavy equipment tech for years and avoided these things as much as I could but had some clients who had a bunch of old saws, big ones, and wouldn’t shut up about needing them fixed. I’d just do the basic stuff to keep the saws going for them and not put much time in them. I think the ones that leaked under pressure but not vacuum were old Mcculloch or something. They had old boxy Stihl saws too. Now that I think about it I bet the crank bearings were shot because I was always putting seals in those things and they had to run something like 20:1 or 25:1 fuel. I was always fighting the tune on the carbs. I hated working on them.
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 7 ай бұрын
@@VintageEngineRepairs Could that happen if the bearing was bad and allowed slight movement of the crankshaft? I’m starting to wonder if the new seals were supplementing bad crank bearings. Oops
@tojiroh
@tojiroh 7 ай бұрын
Yup, prolapsing a seal can be a pain in the butt!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Yes! So many don’t realise it too!
@monoshock57
@monoshock57 7 ай бұрын
Heat shrink tubing on the crank shaft works good also. There are many defiant sizes of tubes.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Interesting! I haven’t tried or heard of that before, thanks for sharing!
@seagull6931
@seagull6931 6 ай бұрын
😂😂 wouldn't "defiant" heat shrink tubes refuse to fit? 😅😅😅
@garymcmullin2292
@garymcmullin2292 8 ай бұрын
fortunately not all saws have the stepped crankshaft problem like that stihl does. I do a lot of work on Jonsereds 49sp, 52, 70 and there is no difficulty at that point of seal installation, also do Homelite SXL/AO and 925 XL saws without a hitch. Prolapse can definitely happen but with some saws it is far less likely. I never use sealant on the outer seal surface unless there has been damage to the seal casting in the crankcase. Always test your installation for pressure and vacuum after finishing installation.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
I’ve just had a look, the first one I searched (super XL) has a stepped crank and must have a sleeve. I can’t search them all, but I’d suggest proceeding with caution.
@garymcmullin2292
@garymcmullin2292 8 ай бұрын
thank you, I have done several with no problems. Using a pop bottle piece of plastic as a sleeve to "shoehorn" the seal over the ledge can be useful but I have also found that using a seal driver that fits pretty snug on the crankshaft helps very much to prevent the rolling of the seal material, that dreaded prolapse, a small piece of tubing or pipe, metal or plastic really aids the process. Warming the seal material is of value too, allows the butyl or viton...which ever is used....to expand and conform to new shape. The key is to take your time and push by hand, avoid hammer blows or such when trying to get that seal over the sharp edge.@@VintageEngineRepairs
@charleswilson577
@charleswilson577 4 ай бұрын
Deserves a million likes. Great video.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words :)
@GWAYGWAY1
@GWAYGWAY1 8 ай бұрын
The caulking nozzle is a really good tip, all crank seals and any seal on a shaft it would work . MIG nozzle will do bigger shafts.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip re mig nozzles! Glad you enjoyed the video!
@cattmann1405
@cattmann1405 6 ай бұрын
I'm getting ready to replace the seals on a LawnBoy mower...what a great tip! Thanks! Subbed
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Glad it helped :)
@smendrickpepperell1179
@smendrickpepperell1179 5 ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation. All the way around.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 5 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@waynestefinashen239
@waynestefinashen239 8 ай бұрын
Well done Tom and love the installation tips and manufacturing your own installation tools buddy.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Wayne! Much appreciated :)
@ChromeArty
@ChromeArty 7 ай бұрын
Wow... I wish we could all love our trade as much as this man does his. There is no person you want to hire more than a guy who is enthusiastic about his trade! Thebman machines his own little seal slipper oner thingy! 💪🏻 I subbed to the channel in that moment 😂. This video was art to me, cant wait to see and learn more! Thank you!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
What a wonderful comment, I appreciate it more than you know :)
@ChromeArty
@ChromeArty 7 ай бұрын
@@VintageEngineRepairs tis but the truth my friend 🙏
@JBK647
@JBK647 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing these simple tips.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome :)
@EnsinoCoisas
@EnsinoCoisas Ай бұрын
In some extreme cases, just dirko does not fix. So the solution is 2 component epoxi. The disadvantage is that if it needs replace, youl have to disassembly the whole crankcase for remove it with a socket and applying heat
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs Ай бұрын
Yes if the pocket is very damaged, it may need to be built up :)
@hotpotatoz
@hotpotatoz 8 ай бұрын
Good info 👍 . Ive done the coke bottle on the clutch side befofe , works perfect
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Awesome! Glad it resonated with you :) yep super handy isn’t it 👍👍
@jeeprenegade1985
@jeeprenegade1985 7 ай бұрын
I used electrical shrink tubing over my valve stems to protect the seals during installation.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Interesting!
@patrickvennard838
@patrickvennard838 8 ай бұрын
That's really useful info I really enjoy your chainsaw repair videos.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad it resonated with you!
@patrickvennard838
@patrickvennard838 8 ай бұрын
Are OEM parts hard to get in Australia? 3 series Husqvarna cylinders are hard to get in the UK, Meteor cylinders are available as are OEM imports from the US.@@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Na stihl parts are plentiful here, though Husqvarna have been horrifically difficult to get.
@Suds649
@Suds649 6 ай бұрын
You can also use electrical tape to cover the sharp edge of the shaft. It is a little messy to clean up the adhesive from the tape but brake cleaner and paper towel will remove it.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Yes :) I have heard that one before, thanks for sharing!
@Syncop8rNZ
@Syncop8rNZ 7 ай бұрын
Genius! Trains with the brains.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Haha yes :)
@KensSmallEngineRepair
@KensSmallEngineRepair 8 ай бұрын
Just be careful of how much sealant you put on the seal (especially on the clutch side) as in this case you installed the seal into the outer race of the bearing. You don't want excess sealant entering the ball path of the bearing. I would leave the first mm of seal width free of sealant so when installing there is no risk of sealant entering the bearing.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Yep, just enough to seal any damage. 99 percent gets pushed out on install anyway.
@leebrech9616
@leebrech9616 7 ай бұрын
I use Honda Bond on my casings and seals when putting the engine back together. Good Vid
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Hondabond is excellent, if I didn’t use Dirko, I’d use Hondabond. Honda also make a good 2 stroke oil too. Hp2
@Ron-0417
@Ron-0417 8 ай бұрын
Great advice. Now I need to get my brother in law to make me some sleeves on his lathe.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Useful to have him as a resource haha
@IAMNOSLEEP
@IAMNOSLEEP 8 ай бұрын
I have great success with greasing the spring in its seat and it has never fallen out on installation.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Glad that’s worked for yoy
@hphillips7425
@hphillips7425 6 ай бұрын
Good video. I like the quality and finesse of your work
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@petefroud5308
@petefroud5308 8 ай бұрын
You can use a Mik bottle plastic type to wrapped around the piston to slide it in the pot.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Yes Pete! What a great suggestion 👍 haven’t tried it myself but I like the idea!
@petefroud5308
@petefroud5308 8 ай бұрын
Works well if your in a pinch
@themowershop5373
@themowershop5373 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great caulk tip.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@frankdooley6451
@frankdooley6451 8 ай бұрын
Excellent explanation and advice.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thank you !
@jamesmillspaw5302
@jamesmillspaw5302 7 ай бұрын
Do you think a piece of heat-shrink tubing shrunk over the shaft would work?
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Someone said it would! I haven’t tried it so can’t confirm though!
@jdr1951p
@jdr1951p 7 ай бұрын
Add grease to the cavity to hold the spring also old trick i learned years ago while mechanicing at thr ford dealer
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Yep, a very heavy grease can help 👍
@steveriggenbach90
@steveriggenbach90 8 ай бұрын
I know about the can, but not the caulk tip. Wonder if the industrial size tubes would fit. Great info.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Oooo!! I figured there must be larger tubes, but never seen one :)
@steveriggenbach90
@steveriggenbach90 8 ай бұрын
@@VintageEngineRepairs if I find one I’ll let you know. Do you have a video about removing the seals?
@wheater5
@wheater5 5 ай бұрын
TBH, I hadn’t come across these purpose made sleeves before. I’ve always wrapped the sharp edge of the shaft with a couple of winds of stretchy electrical insulation tape and applied a bit of oil to help the lip of the seal slide over it. Never had a problem doing it that way. One thing I would say if making a sleeve on a lathe - the surface must be polished. If cutting tool marks are present, instead of pulling the seal over one sharp edge, it will be pulled over dozens.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 5 ай бұрын
Yep you can use electrical tape too :) thanks for sharing!
@tomasznumrych7187
@tomasznumrych7187 6 ай бұрын
Whats your preferred sealant to use on the seal outer lips? Dirko? Hylomar?
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Dirko
@martinswiney2192
@martinswiney2192 7 ай бұрын
As a machinist it has always bothered me that manufacturers leave sharp edges on seal fits like these. If you think a lip seal is a pain try it with a mechanical seal on a water pump where the rubber bellows may be an inch long. I always cut an angle on these fits if I remake the shaft or chuck up the original shaft and file an angle on it. But for saws like this if someone is working on them all the time and needs an installation tool made there are small machine shops all over that could easily make duplicates of these tools for just a few bucks.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing!
@RMartin631
@RMartin631 6 ай бұрын
Dirko is recommended because it is impervious to virtually everthing. Gas, oil, alcohol, acetone, paint remover, and high temperatures. High end Eurpoean cars use it exclusively as a sealer. Stihl seals may give out in rare instances (usually because the crank has come loose, but the Dirko sealed crankcases, covers, and anything else that needs to be sealed, never leak.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Dirko is a fantastic sealant - the best in my experience, but it’s not fuel resistant. It doesn’t dissolve in fuel, but it does expand and lose elasticity. I contacted elring (the manufacturer of Dirko) who confirmed, it’s not fuel resistant.
@RMartin631
@RMartin631 6 ай бұрын
@@VintageEngineRepairs, that depends on which one you get. The Curil T2 is fuel resistant. Like I said, Stihl uses Dirko H2 to seal all crankcases and covers and the Dirko doesn't fail.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
@@RMartin631 CurilT is not a gap filler and does not set. It’s a totally different product to Dirko and mustn’t be used in place of it.
@MikeNel33and49
@MikeNel33and49 7 ай бұрын
i'm on 10% disability actually about 50% but don't claim it and workng on Stihl chainsaws and using them is great also utube channels tell me all I need to know for repairs and safety!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy my channel :)
@Rockjock007
@Rockjock007 7 ай бұрын
When I rebuild stihl equipment I use OEM parts, and if a motor is scored I first need to find out what caused it. Changing the seals is cheap insurance. BTW the seal tool is not expensive.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
I think it’s about $40 Australian. It’s not expensive as a one off, but when you rebuild as many machines as I do, it’s impossible to buy every seal sleeve for every machine, especially one offs.
@markwiley9516
@markwiley9516 8 ай бұрын
Great tips tom I don't like 2 strokes but will give that a try have one I have to work on I will see how it goes
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Nooo! 2 strokes are the best!! 🤩 you’ll grow to love them haha :)
@KensSmallEngineRepair
@KensSmallEngineRepair 8 ай бұрын
Nice Tip Tom, no more cut up soda cans for me!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Ken!
@johnh9507
@johnh9507 5 ай бұрын
a stihl bg50 has limiter caps, where does stihl have the oem settings at before the caps are installed? or do they have a spec where the L and H screw are installed before adjustments starts before the limiters are pushed on, I do not have a service manual to look this up, thank you
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 5 ай бұрын
I don’t have that info I’m afraid! Do a quick google search :)
@robertdouglas3456
@robertdouglas3456 8 ай бұрын
Great information! Thank you!🤩🤩
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
You’re welcome :)
@plakor6133
@plakor6133 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, Tom.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@StonedRedneckMarine
@StonedRedneckMarine 7 ай бұрын
I've found that once a chainsaw needs major work, it's cheaper in the long run to just buy a new one. They aren't expensive, and once you have to start fixing them, it becomes endless.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
I’m disagree if it’s a good saw. I rebuilt one for 300 dollars. New they’re $2500
@rickhofsess84
@rickhofsess84 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@conmanumber1
@conmanumber1 7 ай бұрын
M.i.g weld gun gas nozzles modified works too
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@jeradbennett5030
@jeradbennett5030 7 ай бұрын
Great video thank you.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
You’re welcome :)
@petefroud5308
@petefroud5308 8 ай бұрын
Good tip Tom.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Pete !
@TheOlsonOutfit
@TheOlsonOutfit 8 ай бұрын
Super helpful!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it :)
@richardflagg3084
@richardflagg3084 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic video!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Richard, much appreciated. I really enjoy your channel mate!
@h4ppyleader
@h4ppyleader 7 ай бұрын
Great vids mate, a little help if i may try putting "oil seals" in the title you will get more hits.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@doglegjake6788
@doglegjake6788 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :)
@DH-mf2lv
@DH-mf2lv 3 ай бұрын
Does it damage a 2 stroke engine to shut the fuel off and run it til it stops running?
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 3 ай бұрын
If it’s idling, no :) stihl even recommend you drain the tank and let it idle until it stops when you’re storing them!
@MHolt3573
@MHolt3573 8 ай бұрын
I love Dirko. That is the best stuff I've used.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Yes I haven’t found a better sealant all things considered.
@sdc0386
@sdc0386 8 ай бұрын
Try threebond 1104 or 1211. Puts dirko to shame.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
@@sdc0386 they don’t, I have used both and looked closely at both technical data sheets. The two you mentioned have less fuel resistance, less elasticity, longer cure time and don’t have as high of adherence strength compared to Dirko. Their only advantage is they don’t set in the tube. Dirko requires some Vaseline in the cap to avoid this.
@sdc0386
@sdc0386 8 ай бұрын
👍
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
@@Rein_Ciarfella yes. Don’t get me wrong they’re great products and I do use them, but in my experience I haven’t found anything that can top Dirko all things considered.
@dozerbigboy908
@dozerbigboy908 6 ай бұрын
great video
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Thanks :)
@joevanvalkenburg
@joevanvalkenburg 6 ай бұрын
I use a Chip bag.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Ha cool
@dsm9785
@dsm9785 5 ай бұрын
Maybe they could add a plastic sleeve with the replacement seal as a kit.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 5 ай бұрын
That would be excellent!
@WECB640
@WECB640 8 ай бұрын
BRILLIANT!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! :)
@om617yota8
@om617yota8 7 ай бұрын
Trains is the man!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
He’s been very helpful over the years sharing what he has!!!
@toyotatundra0455
@toyotatundra0455 8 ай бұрын
Is Dirko better than Permatex No 3? I have three cRyobi chainsaws with seal problems. After watching your videos, I think I can get at least one of them to work.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Yes, they’re not interchangeable and used for different tasks.
@toyotatundra0455
@toyotatundra0455 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. The Dirko HT is sold in my area as a gasket maker. I've been using Permatex as a gas maker even in my vehicles. I really appreciate the advice and knowledge that I've gained from your videos. BTW, Happy New Year to you and your family.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
@@toyotatundra0455 great stuff! Happy new year :)
@Travis141123
@Travis141123 7 ай бұрын
Make sure you find the cause of the original failure if you are doing a rebuild. Plugged fuel filter; air leaks on intake boot, fuel lines and gaskets, even a plugged tank vent can ruin the job quickly.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Yep! Agreed :)
@jimmydickson8854
@jimmydickson8854 7 ай бұрын
The price to get that repaired done at a shop could be half the price of a new chain saw
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
It depends on the cost of a saw. A cheap ryobi, sure, a professional stihl, it won’t (shouldn’t!) be! If I was doing the job I’d give an estimate of 30-60 minutes labor plus parts.
@willhoyle752
@willhoyle752 8 ай бұрын
Just rebuit a stihl with burned up piston. Didn't know to replace oil seals. Guess we will see what happens
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Did you pressure and vacuum test it? If not and you didn’t change seals, it’s highly likely to burn up again in short order.
@user-yl3xc8vy2j
@user-yl3xc8vy2j 7 ай бұрын
Pack the sale with grease to keep the seal in place
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Yep! A very heavy grease can keep it in!
@richardbakos4970
@richardbakos4970 6 ай бұрын
Electrical insulation tape works
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Richard!
@Tony-rl2fr
@Tony-rl2fr 8 ай бұрын
Someone could probably design and 3D print a set of those.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Yes!
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 7 ай бұрын
Sure would be an easy way to make custom seal installing shield guides👌
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
@@howardosborne8647 yeah!
@patrickmarshall1903
@patrickmarshall1903 7 ай бұрын
In 60 years of engineering have never put sealent on seals.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
4 strokes don’t need it, 2 strokes you should.
@NoShitMr
@NoShitMr 6 ай бұрын
My stihl chainsaw is faulty, it's chain just keeps turning after a little bit of using it and no one can fix it. In service they said it's because the chain is dull, so I had it sharpened but nothing has changed. A big waste of money if you ask me.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Start with basics, turn the idle down. If that doesn’t work, I’d suggest checking that there is no debris in the clutch drum, also if the saw is old it could be new clutch springs are necessary, maybe the needle bearing is damaged or seized. Also an air leak will cause that. Who ever said it needs to be sharpened is talking bs. That won’t change anything and is completely un related.
@NoShitMr
@NoShitMr 6 ай бұрын
@@VintageEngineRepairs Thanks for the info, I simply knew it that they were incompetent. Chainsaw is 5-6 years old, not even used that much. I have to turn idle speed down every time I give gas on it, because it just keeps spinning and wasting gasoline and chain oil in idle. I am not a professional repairer so I don't know for sure how to fix it, even those ''professionals'' at the official stihl service in my town don't know how to fix it, but they insist no one makes unofficial repairs since they won't offer their (useless!) services on it anymore.
@reedswain5759
@reedswain5759 7 ай бұрын
There's actually a match simpler solution... Go to the dollar store and buy a set of cheap plastic funnels choose the one that will go over both steps on a large crankshaft and slide the seal back down. 😃
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing :)
@rogerwilliams2902
@rogerwilliams2902 7 ай бұрын
Never seen any Husqvarna oil seals having had sealant on them .
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
Worth adding for insurance
@Mike-su8si
@Mike-su8si 6 ай бұрын
I don't never have any problems with my husqvarna
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Good to hear, though the principles to install seals correctly aren’t brand specific.
@Donjon-ts6pl
@Donjon-ts6pl 8 ай бұрын
My engine is spooging any tips to help
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Yes, either not enough load, too much oil, incorrectly tuned or a blocked air filter.
@Donjon-ts6pl
@Donjon-ts6pl 8 ай бұрын
Tune high speed or low speed screw
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
@@Donjon-ts6pl well they work together, so probably both. That video at the end of this one (that I point to) will cover how to tune.
@KensSmallEngineRepair
@KensSmallEngineRepair 8 ай бұрын
HUSK-Varna? Where's Claus lol!!
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 8 ай бұрын
Hahah
@peterolson8350
@peterolson8350 6 ай бұрын
Just using electric tape works perfectly
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
Yes you can do!
@jamesvosper3128
@jamesvosper3128 2 ай бұрын
Mmmmmm yes chainsaws make me hot. Please talk more about clutch seals it makes me happy.
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 2 ай бұрын
Enough KZbin for you for tonight 🤣
@barnyardbrio7597
@barnyardbrio7597 7 ай бұрын
putting the rings on upside down
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 7 ай бұрын
I have actually seen that happen, but they must have been very worn to fit lol
@robertdevonald
@robertdevonald 6 ай бұрын
heat shrink, cheap and easy
@VintageEngineRepairs
@VintageEngineRepairs 6 ай бұрын
I haven’t tried it but glad it works for you
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