The Mystery Of The Tucker Convertible

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@radical026
@radical026 Жыл бұрын
It could be that chassis #57 was used to try two different designs, starting with testing the wrap around window and then if/when that was passed on it was reused for the convertible rather than changing it back into a standard Tucker, it'd be more sensible than taking another chassis off the line for testing.
@patrickclawson9622
@patrickclawson9622 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, seems to me that making a wrap-around window would involve cutting out the C-pillar, the same as making a convertible. So, whatever chassis it was, they were halfway there, already.
@redslate
@redslate Жыл бұрын
Yeah, reusing a prototype isn't unheard of. Two birds, one stone.
@phil2782
@phil2782 Жыл бұрын
Having worked in factories before, reusing, hacking prototypes up, a bit of bog here and there and then finishing it with the ol hammer tune up till "it ain't pretty, but it works" isn't uncommon. Sounds like that's the kinda thing tucker would have done based on the launch story.
@waylandcool
@waylandcool Жыл бұрын
That is very common in car and aircraft factories and wouldn't shock me in the slightest if chassis 57 had a wrap around window and then either Tucker didn't like it or (more likely) they needed a car for the convertible project and 57 happened to be available so it got used. Prototypes get repurposed a lot since they just sit at the factory or in a warehouse.
@54raceman
@54raceman Жыл бұрын
That’s honestly most likely what happened. If you cut a car up for a idea and ended up not using it there’s no reason to cut the same stuff off another car for the new idea
@vaughngordon1095
@vaughngordon1095 Жыл бұрын
As a man who restores automobiles, this is a Tucker 48 convertable.... finished years later in the spirit of the people who started the project.
@inherentmirth5180
@inherentmirth5180 Жыл бұрын
*convertible
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
I am the head builder of the tucker convertible that finished it. Here is the truth about the tucker. The body is the cowl and maybe some other parts off car 57. Car 57 was a big back window car....I personally held the only picture of car 57 in the factory...only mod was big back window.When I worked at benchmark the car came with a lot of tucker paper work...photos...notes off Preston's desk etc. Enough stuff to fit in a 20x20 room. I spent countless hours on this car and researching it. I spent many hours with Al also during the build. Here is the car build from front to back. Hood is real....front inner structure is real....left fender was made by someone who is unknown to me heance why there is photos of it with no gas door..right fender is real....doors where stretched by someone unknown to me...I built the door jams and fabbed all the regulators and channels . Rockers hand made. Convertible top mechanisms and inner structure was out of a 48 Buick that was in smidts junk yard. One of the rear fenders was real the other fake....this can be seen by looking at the lower front edge. Dutchman panel hand made...trunk lid is real but I sectioned it to fit. Rear inner structure was some real...some hand made. Bumpers are real. Lights are real. The famous reinforced frame was built by the guy from the Harley dealership up north...I worked with him when I leaded the car. I thought it was real up to this point...but while working him he told me about the frame. The frame was found in a swamp and was rotted from A pillar back ...the rear 2/3s was sunk in the mud. He rebuilt the frame. Motor was tucker replacement engine...along with the cord transaxle. I was the first person to drive the tucker down the road with my apprentice shifting the car from the back seat area like they did with car 27 I think. The shifting tube was very difficult to figure out and I had read about this and Adam and I where driving it down the road when Justin Cole showed up for work. The shifter in the car worked of a joy stick and two seliniods ...very complicated piece. The Vin tag was stamped at the shop and was not the Vin tag for the car...it was bought separate from a gentleman I believe in south or north carolina. The car is not at accelerated auto group in Rowlett Texas...it's in California the last time I knew . Justin does have it forsale though. He traded the car for property and some cash before he went bankrupt around 07-08. I am pretty sure he figured out a way to keep his fingers in the pot and not lose the car more or less. Build cost was 1.2 million. Justin trade a 57 corvette ...a 2000ish thunderbird ...a bathroom remodel...and some cash for the car. Anyways that was the original deal. There is a lot of people that will try taking credit for this build ...but It happened over the course of three months ...it was being worked on for a few years....but they had no idea what they were doing. I assembled most of the crew who built it. Me ....Earl Stoflet....Ryan Genin ....Adam Rheil... Andy onslow...Jay stone....Bill Stahl on paint.... Richard and Doc helped some . The guy who fitted the top and 48 Buick innerstructre was an Australian guy who I can't remember his name. Top was originally done by Vics in Madison and redone out east after it was damaged in the tent accident in Arizona . The people who authenticated the car....all kinda had skin in the game as investors. I worked for Justin at benchmark...and I helped him start accelerate auto group. He is a real special human being that I have ZERO respect for . Believe what you want about the Tucker ...but it most of it is fake. Al Rheinart had hoarded many tucker parts and was as I would say a tucker and 32 Ford " rainman" . I spent a lot of time with Al ...he was a friendly enough guy...but I would say at the very least tended to lie with a very good poker face . He set Justin Cole up ....and I can not say there is a more deserving person to get set up as Justin Cole. Everything I have said here is 100% accurate...I am the only person not to sign a disclaimer....and Justin Cole screwed me put of lots of money and time....first with benchmark classics...and once again with Accelerate Auto group. I have many pictures of this build....and the photos you see of it when picked up at Al's garage are photo shopped and staged with the qts being just quickly wrapped with tin and primed blue for pics. And that reminds me of one more thing....rear qts hand made. In Justin's defense he didn't know it wasn't real at first either.... I got him drunk at UFC fight...Mad town throw down and I asked him " when did you realize the Tucker was fake and he started to answer and realized he just slipped up and cracked his stupid grin and said you f'er don't you ever tell anyone. We were with Adam Rheil who died a few years ago in an accident in colorado....Ryan Genin...and I. Both Ryan's and Adam's mouth just dropped...I was literally working with the gentleman from the harley dealership the day before putting over 100lbs of lead into the body when I learned about the frame. The frame was the only thing that validated it being real. The left fender...one of the rear fenders...and both doors where stretched by the same guy in 90s which I believe was from Ohio. Well now you know
@UberLummox
@UberLummox Жыл бұрын
@@inherentmirth5180 *converdubble
@jasonsparshott7208
@jasonsparshott7208 Жыл бұрын
^^ above is fake .. in several other comments he ^^ ( I can’t tag him because it types all stupid which is typical with fake scammer accounts ) says he is Earl Stofet then in above comment he says the people involved were Me…. Earl Stofet … Ryan Genin …. And others .. it’s just doest seem legit . And even if his story is real the car isn’t fake it has 90% real tucker parts …
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
@@jasonsparshott7208 so a hood...a cowl...a modified deck lid...two modified doors..and the front half of a frame...is 90%... sure buddy
@myrmeko
@myrmeko Жыл бұрын
I literally cannot wrap my head around how fans of the Tucker say it's not a real Tucker, if the *ACTUAL EMPLOYEES* of Tucker say it's real and they worked on it. What do they even base their argument on?
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
I built the car ..it's fake. I am Earl Stoflet on my wife's phone
@neilbrown82
@neilbrown82 Жыл бұрын
​@@MarcelaHernandez-im6ktproof?
@UpgradeUrWinRARTrial
@UpgradeUrWinRARTrial Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Could you elaborate on why it’s fake? Like is there evidence that points to the contrary?
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
@@UpgradeUrWinRARTrial frame fake...left front fender fake...doors stretched in the 90s. Qts fake...one rear fender fake...Vin plate fake...convertible top and inner structure 48 buick...I can keep going
@steeliewheelies
@steeliewheelies Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelaHernandez-im6ktfake isn’t the right word. Of course it has all those parts, it was never finished at the factory. It’s a real Tucker that never saw completion until now. “Now” being an era where Tucker replacement parts do not exist. Calling it fake is like calling all project cars on the planet that use aftermarket parts and/or parts from other models fake. With that logic, majority of classic cars on the road today are fake. When in fact they are very real cars
@WaymanXXV
@WaymanXXV Жыл бұрын
I personally know of this car. I worked at Accelerate Auto in Texas. Justin Cole owns Accelerate auto. He does not own the vehicle and just transferred his representation of selling it from Benchmark Classics to Accelerate. The car, last I knew, is not in Texas. It’s stored by the owner in Wisconsin. The car is being sold/represented by Accelerate Auto to this day.
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
I started accelerate with Justin...and I was the tucker convertible builder...I am Earl
@alexsetterington3142
@alexsetterington3142 9 ай бұрын
No, I am the real Earl.
@olivierdochez4141
@olivierdochez4141 Жыл бұрын
I love that you use the words "restore" and "repair" while it is basically a brand new car. I believe it should be in the Guinness book of world record as "the car that took longest to be assembled" because 60 years from start to finish is an awful long time for a brand new car to be made. it should have a movie of it's own, see if it sells then!
@BastardX13
@BastardX13 Жыл бұрын
Looks FANTASTIC in rag top. No mistaking that face. It's a Tucker. Great story.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@snaredude56
@snaredude56 Жыл бұрын
I was a member of the TACA discussion forum at the time that this car surfaced and the controversy started. The first thing about the body shell with with the wrap around windshield. It could be seen in pictures in the LIFE magazine photo archive at the time. One of the pictures is shown in this video. These pictures were taken after the factory was shutdown. There was picture or two that showed a row of incomplete body shells in the factory assembly line with a gap where it appeared one had been removed. Based on the number of known assembled bodies and incomplete body shells at that time, it appeared to line up with being the 57th body. There was no way to prove it though. Regardless, since "Project Vera" supposedly started before all of the trouble with the Feds, and the body shell with the wrap around rear glass was sitting in the factory after it was shutdown, there is no way that it is the "Project Vera" car. If "Project Vera" actually existed, it would have to have been a different body shell.There were somewhere between 5 to 10 incomplete body shells sitting in the factory at this time. This was after they 50 cars built by Tucker. I don't know where the number of 36 came from. That is definitely not correct. After the factory was shutdown, they auctioned off everything. People bought complete cars, Partially completed cars, bare body shells, engines, body parts, radios, the 589 test chassis, the Tuckermatic test chassis and anything else that was for sale. There are pictures of rusted out body shells that sat outside until they collapsed. Several people bought large numbers of stuff to try to complete cars from the incomplete body shells. The gentleman who supposedly had bought the "convertible" was one of them. These things weren't worth anything back then like they are now. One guy had a semi truck load full of Tuckers along with the 589 test chassis and I think he had the original "tin goose" prototype. He took these cars all over the country displaying them. There were 50 cars built by Tucker plus the Tin Goose, although they were not all complete with drive trains. 51c was built from NOS Tucker parts and some fiberglass parts. 52c is built on a test chassis that was used for the Tuckermatic transmission testing along with parts from other wrecked Tuckers and some NOS parts. They had to make some of the sheet metal parts and modify some doors to complete 52c. If I remember correctly, the doors or at least parts of the doors and the top mechanism for the "convertible" were from a different make altogether and I believe they were supposedly Chevy parts from several years after the factory closed and everything had been sold off. When it surfaced, the car was far from in any sort of completed shape and the shop owned by Justin had to fabricate a lot of the back end of the car to be able to mount fenders and rear deck lid. There was very sketchy "documentation" at the time like someone saying that they had seen this car in a shop several decades earlier, and this was the big "proof" that it was "Project Vera". Regardless, I don't recall anyone ever saying that this wasn't a Tucker in the sense of, it was made of Tucker parts other than the roof, doors and any other convertible only parts that had already been fabricated by someone and then what Justin had to make to complete the car. Justin had a web site with progress pictures of the "restoration" at the time. In reality, it wasn't so much a restoration as it was a completion as they had to make so much to have a complete car. The beef was with the lack of any real proof that "Project Vera" actually was a real project started by Preston Tucker and if that were the case, that this was that actual car. It is one thing to try to sell it as an official project started by Preston Tucker with no real proof and to sell it as modified Tucker. The real thing, if started by Preston would be in one price range and and modified Tucker made from parts will be in a much lower price range. That's just the reality of the situation. Now if new reliable proof has come to light, I haven't kept up with it so I can't comment. However, a factory started convertible, being worth who knows how much more than a standard Tucker, does provide people with the incentive to try to prove it is the real deal and hence worth a premium price. So there's that to consider. Many of the "purists" as some have referred to them, actually own, had owned or ran museums that owned Tuckers. These were some of the people questioning the validity of the story and this car. These weren't people who "had zero hope of ever owning one" Personally, I think it is not "Project Vera" and I seriously doubt that the story of the secret project is true. It is my opinion, that it was an incomplete body shell bought at the factory auction that some started to make into a convertible at some point. Justin bought this car and finished it. The blue car made from Tucker parts and with a fabric roof is a handsome car, and the work done to finish it looked to have been done to a very high level regardless of whether it was started by Preston or not.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting thanks for that perspective!
@95TeggyRS
@95TeggyRS Жыл бұрын
key word is many not most of the purist. my dad is a purist and doesnt know what hes talking about
@steeliewheelies
@steeliewheelies Жыл бұрын
I hope everyone who cares about the Tucker 48 reads this comment
@randallhoffer3391
@randallhoffer3391 Жыл бұрын
Purists never quit, do they?
@manfredschmalbach9023
@manfredschmalbach9023 Жыл бұрын
So, ain't it absolutely unimportant, to the degree of "neglectable" actually, whether that has been, or has never been, a "factory project"? It is a reasonably Tuckerish looking Convertible, obviously put together with a lot of love, knowledge and work put in, it runs and drives (or doesn't), it has a certain fictional worth for some people actually having the kind of money that seems to be needed to make it change hands, and that's it. All those bloody "it ain't the real thing" foulmouths, all the "it absolutely *_is_* the right thing"-dreamers, the storytellers and gasoline-yarners just help to keep it remembered. That's it. Somebody wants a Tucker Convertible Tucker didn't succeed in completing before being shunned out of the car-making business? Here it is, You can either afford it, or You can't. Same for any potential sellers: You found somebody crazy enough to rake out an umphteen figure sum for a *_car_* ...? Well done, give it away then, close the deal before these people start to come to their senses again! End of story. What is to "authenticity" when there can not be *_any_* authenticity whatsoever in the whole thing from day 2?
@billmaguire6216
@billmaguire6216 Жыл бұрын
In 1971 my best friend and I went to Alex Tremulis' Bay View apartment in my hometown Ventura, CA. a couple of times. He told us all kinds of stories about the Tucker and how he designed it with the moving center headlight and independent suspension etc. It went around Indy at some amazing speed. He didn't mention the convertible, but I believe Tucker ordered it done. Alex was a great guy with amazing true stories.
@lokibrux
@lokibrux Жыл бұрын
1st off, Just wow, what a stunning vehicle. 2nd off, If the guys on the line are saying it's real, it's real. As if anyone is listening to a bunch of peoples opinions that weren't even there. I was born in 81, in England. If I say it was a fabrication, would you listen to me? No, I have no idea as I wasn't there building it, just like these minecraft playing, sandal and sock wearing, spectacle adjusting people also had no hand in it. Stick with them old boys that keep coming in the shop. They're the real deal.
@earlstoflet1320
@earlstoflet1320 Жыл бұрын
I built a lot of it..its not real
@galynahoffer889
@galynahoffer889 Жыл бұрын
​@@earlstoflet1320How did your employment go there at Benchmarch? Any issues?
@earlstoflet1320
@earlstoflet1320 Жыл бұрын
I quit after the tucker build because the team who built did not get any credit....I did about 8 years later move to Texas to help Justin start Accelerate ...I do not like JUstrin at all...but that does not change the FACTS about the tucker ....let me say this one more time...FACTS ABOUT THE TUCKER>>>>>ONCE AGAIN FACTS @@galynahoffer889
@michaelbaka4777
@michaelbaka4777 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that car is BEAUTIFUL. Great story, too. If I had the money, I would buy it. Maybe not drive it too much, but can you imagine the bragging rights???? That car is a REAL Tucker.
@stevenward3856
@stevenward3856 5 ай бұрын
Fascinating story! And I believe it to be true! Tucker is the kind of guy who would have approved of it, even when this other company came in and took it from the factory. And "with a great crowd of witnesses" who recognized it as #57, It makes a lot of sense. The original "wrap-around rear window, as it was intended, made it far easier than taking any other Tucker 48 (Torpedo) and trying to make it into a convertible. Thank you for this new information!
@rossbryan6102
@rossbryan6102 Жыл бұрын
WHILE I AM NOT A TUCKER FAN, I AM STILL A CAR AND TRUCK GUY!! THE STORY OF THIS CAR IS AMAZING THAT ONE OF THE SEVERAL OWNERS DID NOT GET DISCOURAGED AND SCRAP IT ALTOGETHER! IN MY EYES, A GENNIE TUCKER WITH A CRAZY HISTORY!!👍👍
@mathewanderson7552
@mathewanderson7552 Жыл бұрын
Tucker got screwed so bad.... so so far ahead of his time
@justiceofskitzerland6429
@justiceofskitzerland6429 Жыл бұрын
It happens alot in America
@markgrace659
@markgrace659 Жыл бұрын
He was a bad businessman. The movie takes some liberties to put it nicely.
@sccarguy8242
@sccarguy8242 Жыл бұрын
@@markgrace659care to elaborate??
@denialphasebitcoin5639
@denialphasebitcoin5639 Жыл бұрын
​@@sccarguy8242he was a con man, Watch the movie
@sccarguy8242
@sccarguy8242 Жыл бұрын
@@denialphasebitcoin5639 he wasn’t he made the cars he said he would and would have continued if not shut down.
@DaveInVirginia
@DaveInVirginia Жыл бұрын
Nice story! One of my bosses when I worked for Motorola almost 50 years ago was Preston Tucker jr. He didn't talk much about the Tucker car stuff but when he did he had some nice stories to tell.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
That’s so cool!
@DaveInVirginia
@DaveInVirginia Жыл бұрын
@@nikkrueger5734 He said he went to work for Motorola to pay off what they owed them for the radios Motorola made for the Tuckers. Then he stayed at Motorola after that.
@Iconoclasher
@Iconoclasher Жыл бұрын
Of course it's a real Tucker. Even if it were built as a HT and later converted to a ragtop, it's still a real Tucker. Geez, Tuckers are rare. Enjoy them!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Fair argument! Thanks for watching!
@realmaindrianpace
@realmaindrianpace Жыл бұрын
I think it's a beautiful car, far better looking than the sedan. The convertible top assembly and windshield frame are believed to be from a Buick or a Cadillac. Everyone has an opinion, so here's mine: Preston Tucker was famously concerned about safety in his cars; he wanted the best rollover protection, body structure, seat belts, disc brakes, and padded interior parts to protect the occupants in crashes. Convertibles have almost none of that, so it seems unlikely that he would have approved of a version of his car that was inherently unsafe in an accident, as convertibles were at that time. That, and no actual factory documentation of the project make this car basically a phantom - a car that never was, but is factory in appearance and easily could have been.
@earlstoflet1320
@earlstoflet1320 Жыл бұрын
48 buick
@dyer2cycle
@dyer2cycle Жыл бұрын
I think that's pretty much it....
@josephconsoli4128
@josephconsoli4128 Жыл бұрын
The car is done so beautifully and there's a genuine possibility that it's "real", so I say it's historical value is valid. I know I would love to have it!
@earlstoflet1320
@earlstoflet1320 Жыл бұрын
I did it....its not real
@josephconsoli4128
@josephconsoli4128 Жыл бұрын
@@earlstoflet1320 It's done so well that it has become part of the Tucker legend. Beautiful work.
@gallonoffuel
@gallonoffuel Жыл бұрын
This is easily in the top 5 of VinWiki car stories.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
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@Ashleycorrie8494 Жыл бұрын
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@Seanmirrer
@Seanmirrer Жыл бұрын
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@PennyBurdick318
@PennyBurdick318 Жыл бұрын
-I just looked up his name on Google and saw his impressive resume. I consider myself lucky to have found this comment area..
@JoeR203
@JoeR203 Жыл бұрын
They had some cool colors on those cars. Movie director Francis Ford Coppola (Nicolas Cage's uncle) owns two Tuckers.
@liberator818
@liberator818 Жыл бұрын
He made the movie!!!!!
@HLife719
@HLife719 Жыл бұрын
A really well worded talk on the Tucker convertible. You make no claims regarding authenticity, but lay out the different claims and opinions floating around, and don’t lead the viewer down a particular path. Still, you present a fascinating story of this wonderful mystery car. I’m looking forward to your next presentation. Thank you very much!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
@volvowagon70
@volvowagon70 Жыл бұрын
That is a real Tucker convertible people, and Tucker himself would be speechless at the end result. This story choked me up a bit. To finally have what Tucker always dreamed of, is a honor to his legacy. He was a visionary ahead of his time, and this car being so loving built is a physical way to keep men like him alive. It gives people hope to see this car. Bravo!
@EdBolian
@EdBolian Жыл бұрын
There is a lot of conflict and disagreement about this car. I think we'll have more to the story coming soon.
@cookieman0916
@cookieman0916 Жыл бұрын
I’ve gotten a personal tour of chassis 1044. Howard is an avid collector. Has quite an amazing collection. Look up his collection , you’ll be amazed at what he has found. The Tucker is immaculate. Literally knew it was a once in a lifetime opportunity. Much appreciated Howard!!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome!
@prestontuckersspeedshop1948
@prestontuckersspeedshop1948 Жыл бұрын
Howard is absolutely amazing!
@61rampy65
@61rampy65 Жыл бұрын
Do people think that this is not a real Tucker because it wasn't finished at the factory? Isn't this a similar situation with the original Fox body Mustangs, where ASC took the notchbacks and made them into a convertible? Just because work is farmed out doesn't mean it's not legitimate.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Fair argument!
@earlstoflet1320
@earlstoflet1320 Жыл бұрын
It was never started as a convertible in the factory
@jammytimmy
@jammytimmy Жыл бұрын
Always thought it was a real shame Tucker got screwed over because the cars he designed look so good.
@5610winston
@5610winston Жыл бұрын
The only person who screwed Tucker was Preston Tucker.
@bgraham928
@bgraham928 4 ай бұрын
​@@5610winston I am glad to see someone in the comments section who doesn't buy into the big 3 shut Tucker down conspiracy theory . Preston Tucker simply misjudged the amount of time and money that was needed to reach his goals and fix potential problems.😊
@revvolutions
@revvolutions Жыл бұрын
It's beautiful. If you made one car and only one car before you went backrupt (or the SEC seized your assets), you'd be proud if it was the Tucker 48.
@mikegee729
@mikegee729 Жыл бұрын
Backrub? Bankrupt? 🤔
@PatFoteff
@PatFoteff Жыл бұрын
It's an engineering mule for a convertible. They weren't worried that 60 years later there would be a controversy about what it is or isn't. They were taking a chassis and figuring out how to make a convertible version of the car to sell for the company. All manufacturers have oddball prototypes like that.
@my31and37
@my31and37 Жыл бұрын
Great story..I remember this car and all the controversy around it..I think it's probably legit, but with mostly all original Tucker parts, it has to be valuable in its own right even if it's a fake.
@5610winston
@5610winston Жыл бұрын
Somehow this story reminds me of the much-better-capitalized Henry J Kaiser. Kaiser's plan for his namesake car included Front wheel drive, but his engineers couldn't make it work, so he fell back on a shortened version of the Graham-Paige Frazer. The Graham-Paige name was dropped early on, but Joe Frazer stayed on with Kaiser-Frazer until Henry J commanded continues production of 1950-models when they had almost a year's supply of '49s unsold in storage yards. even after Frazer recommended discontinuing production until the surplus had sold down. H-J famously responded "Kaisers never retrench!" Frazer left the company while Henry J poured money into development of hardtop sedans and convertible sedans under the name _Virginian,_ _Vagabond_ and _Traveler_ hatchbacks, the _Henry J_ which was supposed to be some sort of post-war Model T. Kaiser had a 288 cubic inch V8 on the drawing board ready to build a prototype and Hurry-Up Henry pulled the plug to build, instead, the odd-ball models and body styles described. Perhaps the best thing to come out of these programs was the KFD161 _Darrin_ roadster, sliding doors and perfect from every angle. Kaiser, who was among the richest men in the world, lost fortunes in the auto industry, even though he sold almost a million cars in the US between 1946 and 1955. People claim Preston Tucker, who was selling radios, seat covers, and fitted luggage sets for cars that didn't exist was hounded out of business?
@seed_drill7135
@seed_drill7135 Жыл бұрын
I think it was the Henry J they went for instead of the V8.
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
It's not
@dyer2cycle
@dyer2cycle Жыл бұрын
There used to be pictures on the internet of the build/construction/finishing of it. Many detailed close-up shots. I can't find those anymore. Anyway, it looked like they fabricated everything behind the front doors from scratch, and modified a real Tucker trunk lid/engine cover so the profile would match the convertible configuration. Also, it was clear from the pictures that the front doors had been cut up and re-welded in some fashion, especially evident on the inner structure. I also think it contained pieces from Tucker #1027 and #1018. One of the rear fenders was smashed up so bad, they had cut it up and re-welded the seams many times and weld in patches to get it straight...the rear fenders on #1027 were smashed up like that. Also, the inner fender/engine bay area had extensive rust they had to repair, some suggested it was from #1018...or perhaps it came from one of those unused extra bodies that were left outside with no paint to rust for years...
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
@@dyer2cycle I actually think all found some of the parts from the car that was at the shop in Michigan that ended up going to the scrap yard...that is my guess and what makes the most sense to me
@mbochum83
@mbochum83 Жыл бұрын
Devil's advocate: what if the chassis that had the roof chopped off was the one with the wraparound rear window? Does anyone actually know what happened to the wraparound window chassis?
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn’t be the first to suggest this … 😏
@tjmoneybags
@tjmoneybags Жыл бұрын
As suggested above...maybe this was that car...then didn't like it so kept cutting for this. This makes a ton of sense.
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
Car 57 was the big back window car ...I held the pictur from the factory in my hands
@1928ModelA1931
@1928ModelA1931 Жыл бұрын
In the end, this is a gorgeous car and it needs to get driven. This is the best telling of the story I have come across. Nik tells it from the point of view of someone who sees the car for what it is. Not a pessimist out to discredit the car. Why wouldn't Tucker have explored other models? The convertible would have been a logical next step in the late 40s. If #57 was experimented on by cutting up the rear window it would make sense to use that altered car to try a convert idea instead of trying to fix the cut-up rear window. It also makes sense that Tucker wouldn't do this conversion in-house. Car companies have always used outside shops to do prototypes etc. And like others have said here, if all of those people who were there at the time know what this car is, I'd say they trump today's enthusiasts who were not there. The mess that followed the collapse of Preston dreams must have left a lot of holes. Lastly, I find it hard to believe anyone would have attempted a conversion in the 50s without doing some less than factory like modifications. I'd drive the car! Hell, the story that applies now is almost as good as the original prototype story. The car has status even in controversy.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@gullepomp
@gullepomp Жыл бұрын
There have been several manufacturers that sourced parts together to build new models. If this was a car build by an employee during his lunchbreak with parts from the floor it would still be a tucker.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Interesting theory 🤔
@stevek917
@stevek917 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Jay Leno has not snapped up this car.
@Mr-pn2eh
@Mr-pn2eh Жыл бұрын
I think Jay already has one.
@jestucker2268
@jestucker2268 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr-pn2eh nope, he doesn't, though he has made offers on Francis Ford Coppola's... and he's driven FFC's Tucker around the vineyard a few times.
@bking12762
@bking12762 Жыл бұрын
I heard he has 2...
@lght5548
@lght5548 Жыл бұрын
Call it whatever you want; I call it STUNNING. Ageless styling wrapped around innovative engineering. 🤩
@arthurlangford5861
@arthurlangford5861 Жыл бұрын
It is car #57! And always will be car #57, whether it has a roof or not! You can't get better documentation and corroboration than the people who actually knew and worked on the car! It's a Tucker!
@waylonmccrae3546
@waylonmccrae3546 Жыл бұрын
" Hold That Tiger " !! 😉👍🏻
@Coltron_Actual
@Coltron_Actual Жыл бұрын
Tucker purists are the weirdest group of know-it-alls that I have ever encountered. They out number the cars produced, and have very strong opinions on something they have zero hope of ever attaining. Just enjoy them.
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
You have just largely described the Porsche community as well....
@mjc8248
@mjc8248 Жыл бұрын
Every car community has those people, and it's mind-numbingly dumb. It's hard to get new people excited about them when the gate keepers are so intent on showing how smart they are instead of collaborating and making the community better.
@pinkace
@pinkace Жыл бұрын
"have very strong opinions on something they have zero hope of ever attaining" you just described almost every single car guy ever LOL
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
@@pinkace Hahah!
@Doctor_Robert
@Doctor_Robert Жыл бұрын
@@pinkace I take umbrage to that! Most of my dream cars are well within the five figure mark and I'm most obsessed with the cars I actually have. :P ('87 Peugeot 505 and '80 Mazda Capella)
@rolliebear42
@rolliebear42 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw what car Nik was talking about, i knew it had (double) ties to Wisconsin. I remember reading about chassis 57 and the convertible project ages ago. Always hoped to see it in person. My dad knew a guy that owned a burgundy sedan, but he passed away before I even knew wat a Tucker was. I wonder where that car is today. Cool car, and a cool story very well told.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
So cool! Thanks for watching!
@hughbarton5743
@hughbarton5743 Жыл бұрын
Some of the more notable manufacturers and body design studious routinely built very limited runs of cars utilizing former racers, wrecks, prototypes, show cars, spare chassis, trade-ins,and whatnot, reconfiguring them and selling them again. This seemed particularly common in Europe; I suppose local laws did not prohibit such activities. This is often discovered during restoration projects. My vote: It is a Tucker.
@ExUSSailor
@ExUSSailor Жыл бұрын
Real, or, not, it's GORGEOUS.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Even more so in person if you can imagine 🔥
@dennyny8
@dennyny8 Жыл бұрын
Whether the car is a real Tucker or not is irrelevant. The point is, the car is freaking gorgeous!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@drremulack6196
@drremulack6196 Жыл бұрын
Preston Tucker was a great man with vision. A beautiful design and family owned... The Big 3 are truly evil
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if he’d have made it happen!
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if the UAW strike ends up sinking the Big 3 too. They're probably regretting allowing the UAW to take over their factories. Imagine the innovation we could have had without the union strongarming them into fighting anything new.
@bgraham928
@bgraham928 4 ай бұрын
No they aren't.
@5610winston
@5610winston 4 ай бұрын
Sorry. He was a two-bit con man.
@bgraham928
@bgraham928 4 ай бұрын
@@5610winston Sorry, no he wasn't.
@WhitfieldProductionsTV
@WhitfieldProductionsTV Жыл бұрын
it's chassis 57, if you actually dive into everything that is...
@danielseelye6005
@danielseelye6005 Жыл бұрын
A "Tucker" video _without_ Steve Lehto? Blasphemy, I say! 😁
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
He said he’d watch it at least 😂
@AnomalousOne1401
@AnomalousOne1401 Жыл бұрын
​@@nikkrueger5734 Thank you Nik, for the amazing Car story. How ironic that even today the legacy of Preston Tucker is subject to unimaginable scrutiny.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
@@AnomalousOne1401agree!
@reelreeler8778
@reelreeler8778 Жыл бұрын
"I worked for the company that did the steering wheels for Tucker"....well, that would be the Lincoln division of the Ford Motor Company, the Tucker steering wheels were Lincoln Zephyr and were all given to Tucker by FoMoCo.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Correct!
@dyer2cycle
@dyer2cycle Ай бұрын
Yes, I caught that...Lincoln steering wheels...
@lilboatsman
@lilboatsman Жыл бұрын
I saw the car when it was being worked on in Madison. Definitely cool, but I had no idea the story behind it. Thanks for the video!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
So cool right?!
@fomocopowersgarage7103
@fomocopowersgarage7103 Жыл бұрын
Always remember growing up my dad telling me that "Ford City Shopping Mall" was the Tucker plant. He also said that one of his neighbors in the late 1950s had one, which makes sense since he grew up just a few miles from the plant.
@fomocopowersgarage7103
@fomocopowersgarage7103 Жыл бұрын
Also.....parts would randomly show up for sale near us. NOS, mostly radios. Really wish I bought one. Side note, the junk yard where most of the assets went to, also turned into a shopping mall, "Chicago Ridge Mall".
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Yeah, there were plenty more radios than cars produced haha
@kellyscars
@kellyscars Жыл бұрын
The original body was so cool looking. I think it had a chassis code of 1057, and has a really trick wrap around window!
@johnnix862
@johnnix862 Жыл бұрын
This is a fascinating story! I heard about it, about 15 years ago, with no pictures. ( First time I've seen it! Absolutely, bad ass! ) thank you for sharing! I believe, it is!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for watching!
@scubatrucker6806
@scubatrucker6806 Жыл бұрын
Great looking Tucker💙💙
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
As far as I am concerned that is the real deal, just with an asterisk. Great video! [Personally, I think the Tucker family should start selling replicas using tube frames and fiberglass construction with Porsche drivetrains.]
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 Жыл бұрын
There was a very short-lived attempt at making replicas with a Cadillac Northstar engine and transaxle.
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
No it's not
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
@@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Bozo.
@johnwilliamson467
@johnwilliamson467 Жыл бұрын
One can only ask what is the required of sword eye witness is need to prove that this is the chassis 57 seen in the factory. As well as the required level of documents to further prove it provenance .
@Atlas.X9X
@Atlas.X9X Жыл бұрын
Good story today. I never knew about chassis 57.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Akecherfd8424
@Akecherfd8424 Жыл бұрын
Jay Leno would be the ideal buyer of this car. If he knew about it, definitely would be one for him to consider buying.
@MrNikodemus5
@MrNikodemus5 Жыл бұрын
Very likely he knows
@malibuconv1968
@malibuconv1968 Жыл бұрын
Probably because Jay Leno knows it's a fake.
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
Jay Leno called bench mark on it...
@wh4070
@wh4070 Жыл бұрын
So the people who worked on the car in the factory say its real, but the arm chair purists whove never been to any automotive factory swear its fake? I wonder who i should believe...
@earlstoflet1320
@earlstoflet1320 Жыл бұрын
I built it ...its fake
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations Жыл бұрын
Are the stories and letters fake? Or are the stories real, but this isn’t the right car?
@gm92845
@gm92845 Жыл бұрын
@@earlstoflet1320 Why don't you contact vinwiki and set up an interview on why it's fake.
@95TeggyRS
@95TeggyRS Жыл бұрын
ok fake earl stoflet. go away. theres another idiot claiming to be him but on his wifes phone as well lmao. make a video about how its fake if youre not full of shit@@earlstoflet1320
@jasonsparshott7208
@jasonsparshott7208 Жыл бұрын
@@earlstoflet1320so you are using your phone now ? I’m not sure I believe your story because you say you’re Earl then list the people who built the car as Me(you)…. Earl Stoflet …. Rich …. Ect…. Ect… why would you say me then list your supposed name after me … then other names …. You tell a good story but can you prove it ?
@RobsNeighbor
@RobsNeighbor Жыл бұрын
New Glarus Wisconsin here, southern Wisconsin. This will be a great watch. Yes capitol Corvette! As a kid coming into Madison that was the coolest thing every time was seeing all the awesome cars!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching - love summers in New Glarus!
@davidjoe3368
@davidjoe3368 Жыл бұрын
"Don't let a Tucker pass you by!"
@georgeallen4495
@georgeallen4495 9 ай бұрын
I don't care what the "experts" or anyone else thinks, its cool. "Experts" are less than a penny per K nowadays so I believe the employees. ITS REAL!!
@Schlipperschlopper
@Schlipperschlopper 9 ай бұрын
According to the federal HESCHLAVVO law, it is already forbidden in Switzerland to drive combustion engines on mountain passes from 2025. In France, the SCHLABOUBVE regulates that fossil vehicles that produce fine dust are prohibited in all cities from 2025. The BABVVO in Germany will bann exhaust gas pollution from 2027 and that is what will happen in entire EU also bann of all tires and brakes because of fine dust!!!!
@AlbertPendergraff-rp7jp
@AlbertPendergraff-rp7jp Жыл бұрын
It's very real Tucker they should know this because Tucker had it made but could not finish it because the government shut him down
@debbiebermudez5890
@debbiebermudez5890 Жыл бұрын
Mr. B. Here ! 🍩☕️👀😎👍. Yes he gets railroaded, don’t forget the Big 3 !
@highoctanememe3617
@highoctanememe3617 Жыл бұрын
even if it was a 4 door with the roof cut off , its still a tucker and its now a convertable. so to say its not a tucker convertable is odd.
@lawsonclark2466
@lawsonclark2466 Жыл бұрын
I saw this Tucker convertible at Benchmark several times . Awesome. I was looking at a square bird they had in inventory.
@robertordewald8678
@robertordewald8678 Жыл бұрын
Call it what you will. It is one of the most attractive cars out of that period in history period if I had a few bucks like that sitting in my pocket. I would certainly go down to Texas and check it out.
@acarguy3562
@acarguy3562 Жыл бұрын
Someone needs to reach out to Rob Ida and get his version of the story on this car. He is very involved in the Tucker community. I thought he was directly related, however I was wrong. It’s Rob’s grandfather who had a Tucker dealer. I’m sure he has a very interesting story or two about Tucker and some of the mysteries surrounding him.
@Chris_Moncada
@Chris_Moncada Жыл бұрын
Is Rob a descendant? I thought someone in his family (grandfather?) was a Tucker dealer.
@acarguy3562
@acarguy3562 Жыл бұрын
@@Chris_Moncada you are correct and I was mistaken. Rob’s grandfather was a dealer. Rob does have many ties to the Tucker community and has built one.
@Chris_Moncada
@Chris_Moncada Жыл бұрын
@@acarguy3562 All good. I follow him on Instagram and have seen his Tucker builds. Believe he's building a Tucker prototype from original drawings. Also believe there is a Tucker grandson involved.
@ChristopherOvrebo
@ChristopherOvrebo Жыл бұрын
If you are into these cars, Preston's grandson's have a channel centered around the car
@prestontuckersspeedshop1948
@prestontuckersspeedshop1948 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the mention! Preston Tucker was our great grandfather.
@ChristopherOvrebo
@ChristopherOvrebo Жыл бұрын
What's your take on this car?@@prestontuckersspeedshop1948
@mattskustomkreations
@mattskustomkreations Жыл бұрын
@@prestontuckersspeedshop1948What is you r opinion on this car?
@Macbetula-yl8wq
@Macbetula-yl8wq Жыл бұрын
I saw that car in Texas, about 14 years ago. They had a price tag of 5 million dollars on it 😮. And it needed a full restoration.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
But look how beautiful it is now!
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
It was built in 2007 in madison...car was never in texas
@natesmemes1794
@natesmemes1794 Жыл бұрын
*My Grandfather would love to own a Tucker 48, I have actually seen two different 4 door Tuckers in person at automotive museums. That convertible 48 looks so much better than the 4 doors with it’s refined lines and convertible top I can almost understand why some purists would insist it’s not real* 😅
@jamiemoffatt50
@jamiemoffatt50 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t take less than six million! That thing is incredible!
@jimbeck4317
@jimbeck4317 Жыл бұрын
Its appropriate its a mystery. Tucker is always a mystery
@automotiveaddiction428
@automotiveaddiction428 Жыл бұрын
It's made from all the proper parts it a Tucker.. they don't make repop Tuckers.
@snaredude56
@snaredude56 Жыл бұрын
I went and dug through old pictures from the convertible thread. There are several pictures of the incomplete bodyshells in the factory. There are 7 shells visible with a spot where a shell should have been followed by one more shell. There were 50 Tuckers built, 36 when the factory was still open, the remaining 14 by Tucker employees that remained after closure. So that is where the figure of 36 came from. These 14 cars didn't have drivetrains installed. If these bare are sitting in order and are numbered in order, the first one would be #51 and the last one would be #58, leaving the missing shell to be #57. There were 58 body shells built from what I have read. Assuming these shells are 51-58, in order, then the missing shell would have to be the one in the other pictures taken at the same time with the modified rear window, and it would be #57. This body was photographed after the factory was shutdown and "Project Vera" was supposedly started before the Feds started their case. Tucker #51C was built after the factory was liquidated and is based on body shell #54 spare parts and fiberglass fenders. No other Tuckers have been built from original un-built body shells other than the convertible. 52C was built on the Tuckermatic test chassis and parts from scrapped cars so it didn't actually use one of the leftover shells. On the tuckerconvertible web site they have some of their documentation posted. There is a letter from Tucker Accountant, Mel Koeppen written to Allan Reinhert from Aug of 2000. It reads, "Dear Allan, Long time no see. I hope your address hasn't changed and this gets to you ok. Did you ever get the Tucker convertible finished? I would like to drive over and se it sometime. Give me a ring and tell me when it will be convenient to get together and bring each other up to date." This is offered as proof, but IMO it offers zero proof. It is a Tucker and it is a convertible, so it is reasonable to call it a Tucker Convertible, but this offers no proof that it is "Project Vera". This is no affidavit stating that he saw it when it was supposedly at the factory. If there is a separate affidavit, they don't show it. There are several pay stubs for Mel, proving that he worked for Tucker Corp. That is good to prove, but Mel's letter proves nothing IMO. There is also an affidavit from the Harley shop owner. He describes the condition of the car and details that he noticed. One thing is that it was very rusted. There was an old picture of a very rusted shell sitting outside, and I believe it was missing it's roof so it was surmised at the time that it may have been #57 with the roof cut off, leaving no way to know if it is the wraparound rear window body seen in the pictures. It also mentions by first name only who had come to the shop and recognized it as #57, "Project Vera". That person named another worker by first name only and said that they had been ordered to cut the roof off #57 at the factory so it could be built into a convertible. No affidavits from these people are offered and no last names are given. The shop owner also states that the reinforcements would have to have been done at the factory because they were equally rusty. This seems like conjecture to me. I have seen cars that had body pieces replaced, and the project stalled and the whole thing rusted. At a certain point heavily rusted metal looks the same unless parts are completely rusted out, and even then environmental factors could cause more deterioration in different parts of the car. He also states that the numbers didn't appear to have been done outside of the factory. I don't know how he could tell that to the level to say that they are factory stamps. Crooks and unscrupulous car restores have been re-stamping cars for decades so it is definitely doable to fake a stamp. Not saying the stamps are fake, just that it is possible to fake them well enough to fool most people. The letter then brings up the owner of LeCara steering wheels "knowing about the Tucker convertible and that it was started at the factory". Here again, this seems flimsy at best. Lots of stories get passed around about all sorts of things. Doesn't make them true. Several times, a life sized factory drawing of the Tucker Convertible is mentioned as having been seen with the car in the past. However this drawing has never been seen to this day. That would be the best proof that Tucker actually, at least went to the effort to consider building a convertible. Still doesn't prove that they ever started however. The fact remains, unless some very credible factory documentation is found, showing that they conceived, designed and paid the outside firm to start building "Project Vera", I don't see how you can ever prove that this car is legit. The "secret off the books" nature of the story, even if true, makes it impossible to prove and the nature of the story also leaves room from someone to have fabricated the story and the car as well. Tucker was selling dealerships as well as radios, seat covers, custom fitted luggage and heaters before the cars were even built, to raise money for the company. That was one of the things that got him into trouble. The 50 cars built were pre-production prototypes. The steering wheels were rejected '41 Lincoln Zephyr steering wheels that Alex Tremulous got from a friend at Lincoln with the stipulation that they had to be pulled and replaced with whatever Tucker's final design was. They had been buying old Cord transaxles, rebuilding them and installing them to get the cars drivable. It seems rather unlikely to me that Preston would have wanted to spend the time, money and energy to start a convertible project when they still hadn't finalized a production car and started production. He has been described as rather impetuous and a micromanager, so it is possible, but if he did and did it off the books, then he doomed the car to being an un-provable enigma.
@randallhoffer3391
@randallhoffer3391 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm! Let's see now, he had time to take # 1057 out of the assembly line to make it into a rear wrap around window Tucker, but no time to make it into convertible, ehh! I think your line of thinking is a little fauly. Maybe a little prejudicial!
@snaredude56
@snaredude56 Жыл бұрын
@@randallhoffer3391 If those pictures of the wraparound window car were taken when the factory was still open, you would have a point. However, the picture of the shell with the wraparound rear window is present in the factory after it had been closed for good. You can see it at 3:19 of this video. You can also see a small vehicle through the rear door with a couple of men in military uniforms and a couple in suits. These were people, most likely from the War Assets Administration inspecting the factory before everything was to be auctioned off. Tucker the company was dead at this point so there is no way anyone could have cut the roof off that car to make it into a convertible, because the company was no more. 50 cars plus the Tin Goose had been built at this point. 8 unfinished body shells are shown in the pictures which were all taken at the same time. There were 58 body shells plus the Tin Goose built at this point. Soooo, all body shells are accounted for with period photographs after the factory had closed for good which rules out a convertible project being built from those 58 shells.
@galynahoffer889
@galynahoffer889 Жыл бұрын
Oh, Tudor, a true card carryingTucker Club member! There also some discussion in your own Tucker Club Topics, that because the SEC said that Preston Tucker himself never really intended to have a real car company , but he was really out defraud the public, so Preston could sell his stock to the unsuspecting public. That Topics discussion said that Preston changed the wrap around window car into a convertible to show the SEC, that he really was going to have a rear car company by offering a convertible. You don't add new models unless you are serious. By the way, Preston Tucker won the case against him by the SEC.
@ckosacranoid
@ckosacranoid Жыл бұрын
This is cool, I have never even heard about this car before and it was huge into being here in Wisconsin for sure and cool and thanks for sharing this for sure.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@wheely90
@wheely90 Жыл бұрын
Got a chance to see #45 at a car show few years back in Melbourne Australia
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Silver is such a cool color on these cars - thanks for watching!
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 Жыл бұрын
An intriguing story is it or isn't but what a good looking car
@Tclans
@Tclans Жыл бұрын
Loved this story, thanks for sharing!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@redslate
@redslate Жыл бұрын
If it's nearly all original parts, doesn't matter _where_ it was built; it's 'real.' On a parallel: A private company has been building DMC-12s with new-old stock for years. They're just as real as anything DMC built themselves, better quality too. Perhaps a collector will value this car differently than one from the official run, but that's just capitalism. The price disparity will even itself out over time. There's only ~50 of these cars in the world, fortunately most (~46) are still running.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Solid take!
@basvanderhoek9293
@basvanderhoek9293 Жыл бұрын
Nice article, but even nicer are some of the reactions. I was a member of a Dutch Citroen club. I am surprised that anybody that ever touched a Tucker is still alive, I am almost dead, being from 1947 most of us do have 1 foot in the grave. I always loved the big Citroens , still drive one, but the length some people go through to find the original glovebox screw from a 57 vs a 58 DS, that goes a bit too far for me. My Citroen friends here in Vancouver have the right idea, we drive our cars, have fun with them and truly enjoy them for what they are. Still get a lot of thumbs up. Love the Tucker, just as bizarre as the DS, I would love to see the Car from this article, fake or not, I don`t care, it looks fantastic. Somebody did a hell of a job. We didn`t think Joan Rivers was "Fake" while a lot of her parts were not original. Thanks and greetings to all car fans.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Joan Rivers comment has me rolling 😂
@hairycat6095
@hairycat6095 Жыл бұрын
it is as close to a real Tucker as one can get. guys from the tucker factory say it is, my guess would be an unfinished prototype. the right people were involved in finishing it, why can't it be a real Tucker? the most rare of all
@CannonballGMC
@CannonballGMC Жыл бұрын
Love seeing Nik on VINWiki! Fascinating story!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve!
@thefiascogarage3215
@thefiascogarage3215 Жыл бұрын
The Tin Goose and another one are in a museum by Rayestown Lake in PA.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
I've always wanted to go to that museum!
@Tokey_The_Bear
@Tokey_The_Bear Жыл бұрын
It is not chassis 57, but it is real, and it was the factory vert prototype. It's also not in texas, it's in a 20x10 unassuming storage unit in WI being consigned remotely.
@earlstoflet1320
@earlstoflet1320 Жыл бұрын
its not in wisconsin...its in california last I knew....it is not real
@ryanmiller2143
@ryanmiller2143 Жыл бұрын
I loved walking through Capitol Corvette when I was a kid. It could make a good vinwiki episode.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Same! It was such a cool dealership, bummer how it ended. There may or may not be another story from me on that whole shenanigan
@ryanmiller2143
@ryanmiller2143 Жыл бұрын
@nikkrueger5734 my dad was in a local car club. We went to all the car shows. The capital corvette guys would usually bring some cars to the bigger shows. If the 94.9 WOLX red boombox mobile radio station was there, there would be some Capitol Corvette cars there.
@ryanmiller2143
@ryanmiller2143 Жыл бұрын
@@nikkrueger5734 I'd watch that.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanmiller2143wow blast from the past - I remember Fletch and Sarah in the morning and that big red boombox at car shows (and Dave Larsen and the CC guys) and everything!
@ryanmiller2143
@ryanmiller2143 Жыл бұрын
@nikkrueger5734 my dad was in the Mad City Knights and Sugar River Cruisers. He drove a dark teal metallic 1968 Chevelle SS396 convertible right up until his passing. My oldest brother has it now.
@jjojo2004
@jjojo2004 Жыл бұрын
How does the “Tucker Community” revoke the actual testimony of the actual people that worked at Tucker in the late 40’s that say they saw the car and knew about it? What makes the “Tucker Community” the tell all and end all of Tucker knowledge? If they are going “simply by documentation paperwork”, that is not always the most reliable way of doing things! 😂😂😂😂😂
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Solid take on it
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt
@MarcelaHernandez-im6kt Жыл бұрын
I gave a very discretion story on the car in the comments
@sharksport01
@sharksport01 Жыл бұрын
Im not a car guy. In the mid 80's I was a teenager and my great uncle took me to see his WW2 army buddy who had just bought a big 1800s house in downtown Indianapolis on Pennsylvania street. The house was complete with all the furniture and everything from the former owners. At the end of our visit he showed us the garage that had a Tucker and a 2 seater Jaguar. I think he said it was a XK120. And I think he said the color was lavender grey or lavender pearl, it had red interior. Years later I saw the man and he said he sold them both. If I knew better I would have been all over the Tucker instead of the sporty, more common Jag.
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Wow! That’s amazing to see two cars together like that “in the wild”!
@jarnosaarinen4583
@jarnosaarinen4583 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a Tucker to me!
@BulletproofPastor
@BulletproofPastor Жыл бұрын
It’s most likely a legitimate engineering prototype and agreeably not a production model. I restored an early Allis Chalmers B model and at tractor shows I hear the same old story that MY tractor isn’t correct because it has a WYCO magneto and Allis Chalmers used Fairbanks Morse. In early production, FM wasn’t tooled up to meet production demands so AC contracted WYCO to meet demand and my WYCO mag. with AC mechanical interface is very rare. There’s probably few things more repulsive than a self proclaimed “expert” with only a little bit of knowledge.
@xmo552
@xmo552 Жыл бұрын
If the old guys were there and then and they says it's legit.... IGNORE the community. I say the car is "real". People don't write statements for the F of it. These all can be investigated and verified. Community go cite your sources.
@drivingjunk7630
@drivingjunk7630 Жыл бұрын
The steering wheels were from a Lincoln
@gilbertnowak5770
@gilbertnowak5770 Жыл бұрын
Also the ONLY 2-door Tucker EVER BUILT!
@dyer2cycle
@dyer2cycle Ай бұрын
Yes..thank God nobody has had the wise idea to convert any more of them into 2-doors.....
@EdBerry-lk6qo
@EdBerry-lk6qo Жыл бұрын
Saw the car up close in Madison. Had our 65 Nova SS there on consignment! I think Cole is a fast talker and took us for a good screwing on our car and wouldn't even tell us the truth about where the Nova went!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAYBE THAT IS WHY HE WENT TO TEXAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He told us Him and his father owned the TUCKER. !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting … 🤔
@ChaplainSkelton
@ChaplainSkelton Жыл бұрын
The new owner should reach out to the car museum in Hershey, PA. They have all the blueprints and documents leftover from Tucker.
@johnzangari3432
@johnzangari3432 Жыл бұрын
In the 20s, many cars had Pilot Ray Lights. They were a second set of head (driving) lights that turned with the steering. In the 50s and 60s Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud convertibles started life as a 4 door sedan then it was sent to the coach builder to make them into a convertable.
@forzaguy1252
@forzaguy1252 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact over a 10th of the remaining factory completed tuckers are in Pennsylvania
@nikkrueger5734
@nikkrueger5734 Жыл бұрын
True story!
@kendavis1198
@kendavis1198 4 ай бұрын
Great Story. And the Folks that actually worked on this Convertible back in that Timeframe, walk Into the Harley Dealership and recognize the car as being the Read Deal Chassis #57. Well, that's as good as it get's right there Fellas. I believe this to be the #57 Tucker Convertible and the "ONLY" One ever! Nuff said. Cool Car.
@Rekuzan
@Rekuzan Жыл бұрын
Originally, the entire front end of the car was supposed to turn but engineers found that to be highly unsafe as it messed with the aerodynamics of the care itself, and thus, the turning cyclops headlight was born!
@NoBody-xg1wg
@NoBody-xg1wg Жыл бұрын
I believe it was the front fenders only.
@notenoughmemes1847
@notenoughmemes1847 Жыл бұрын
@@NoBody-xg1wgYeah the fenders were supposed to move with the wheels but engineers or someone on the design team found it acted like a rudder and pushed the car way more into the turns the driver was making than they thought and could lead to accidents.
@radamus210
@radamus210 Жыл бұрын
HAHA! Well, to be fair, if it wasn't shrouded in controversy and doubt, it wouldn't be a "Real Tucker" would it?
@ericjones4880
@ericjones4880 Жыл бұрын
Well if it isn’t a True Tucker , I like it better than the original 4Dr. Tucker, it should have been in production! It mostly would have done well !
@ginog5037
@ginog5037 9 ай бұрын
Preston Trucker was 100% into safety, agree. A convertible in those days, common folks. He was a showman, maybe a convertible for the draw. Auto companies use concept cars all the time just for that purpose...
@captsirl
@captsirl Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Tucker Turret. All the bombers in WW2 had on them.
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