If you love vinyl, then you should demand for it to be modernized. Links: / bennjordan My music ($upport me!): theflashbulb.bandcamp.com/
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@audiophage03 жыл бұрын
Maybe the magic of vinyl was actually just us tripping on all the volatile organic compounds?
@bipbong29063 жыл бұрын
Maybe the real lsd was the records we sniffed along the way
@valley_robot3 жыл бұрын
that explains pink Floyd so much, headphones on sniffing the trippy vapours in the early 80s , shit
@kaszaniarz3 жыл бұрын
well, old books (that smell) can have some mould that is psychoactive (and toxic), same with printer ink, so....
@CliffordMiller3 жыл бұрын
Must be something else. I tried this and got no rise in TVOCs. I'm almost certain it was his new record player.
@growlerpig3 жыл бұрын
@@CliffordMiller well how come the level isn't rising when the record player is running by itself?
@natevenet3 жыл бұрын
"The sacred thing is not the disk or the turntable, it's us music lovers taking a break from our hectic days, and just closing our eyes, relaxing, and actually listening to the music."
@CockatooDude3 жыл бұрын
I mean you can do that with digital files too. Just fire up foobar2000, sit back, and listen to your music without doing anything else.
@runnersdialzero12443 жыл бұрын
@CockatooDude That's exactly what the quote is getting at.
@CockatooDude3 жыл бұрын
@@runnersdialzero1244 I know that's what the quote was getting at, but it was also implying that vinyl is the only way to do it.
@okordenador3 жыл бұрын
@@CockatooDude you're contradicting yourself in this statement
@CockatooDude3 жыл бұрын
@@okordenador Yeah admittedly I am a bit. I guess I can chock it up to misunderstanding the quote.
@BennJordan4 жыл бұрын
Before you comment: This isn't political. This isn't me bitching (follow me on Twitter if you want to see some world class bitching). In the video, repeatedly, I've clearly stated that I'm the first to be judged in vinyl collecting/producing, and that my goal is not to shame people for using vinyl, but encourage artists to reconsider it until vinyl plants even remotely consider the environmental damage and god forbid spend a few bucks to use a safer and more recyclable polymer. This is a novelty hobby in 2020, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect vinyl to be held up to the same environmental standards as virtually every other consumer product we interact with. In the 5 months since I uploaded this video, over a dozen artists (some indy, some quite notable) and 2 labels have contacted me saying that they're either scrapping or delaying vinyl releases due to these concerns. That might not be a big number, but it's 10's to 100's of thousands of dollars that vinyl manufacturers won't receive until they can offer a better solution. That is AMAZING news, why? I created this video not to shame people for collecting or releasing vinyl. Very few of us knew about these issues because very few people have researched or publicized environmental concerns. But now, those who have reacted to this either by changing their habits, or even sharing the video/information, have created actual tangible financial incentive for vinyl manufacturers to innovate and give consumers an improved, safe product. If you're a vinyl collector, artist, label, or even record shop, I hope you can see this video and the early results of it as great news. A technological upgrade in vinyl will stimulate an industry that is economically hanging on by novel threads. Peace!
@paticusmaximus123 жыл бұрын
Test an old record...this don't scientific at. Test a new record then Test it a week later then a month later. Why didn't you test your room that has your record collection in it? Why do non scientists post stuff like this on youtube acting like its valid? Yes plastics are creepy with chemicals but dude you're not a scientist...maybe a beat scientist but...
@tylermarshall61803 жыл бұрын
Could you add a bibliography for your sources for this video? I'm interested in learning more on this.
@CT-ho6si3 жыл бұрын
@@paticusmaximus12 Also needs to use a lab-evaluated meter. I've done my own tests with a lab-evaluated meter and there are literally no changes in particulate matter or TVOC when playing a record -- new or old. I could see perhaps some particulate changes if playing a particularly dirty record that was throwing dust into the air but I'm testing w/ clean records.
@vinylhunter83163 жыл бұрын
Check out Deepgrooves in the Netherlands for climate concious record manufacturing, there are people doing it, you just aren't looking for it......
@brmbkl2 жыл бұрын
@@CT-ho6si chances are, it was the new turntable. I get dizzy just by looking at those plastic monstrosities in the store.
@PIERCESTORM4 жыл бұрын
"Yeah, but, you're gay" *I dunno man, seems like a pretty strong argument to me*
@XenonOrion3 жыл бұрын
ooh la la
@ottorask76763 жыл бұрын
(under breath) fuck they're good ...
@joshualane17163 жыл бұрын
I'd like your comment but it's at 69 so I am prohibited by law probably
@joshshrum27643 жыл бұрын
Don’t hate me for saying this, but it’s because only gay, and bi people enjoy Vinyl’s.
@qasderfful3 жыл бұрын
In this grim world, it can only be an argument *against* vinyl.
@becomingsmith57154 жыл бұрын
I sleep in the room where I keep my vinyl records, and I hated this video with all of my heart. Thumbs up though.
@LarcTald4 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@Natemasterflex4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha right!!!!
@NickP3334 жыл бұрын
Yup! F’n rides ridiculous!
@ambientoccluser4 жыл бұрын
I just hope it's not (that) toxic while standing in shelves in it's cover.
@erlkonig63754 жыл бұрын
Same... Not sure what to do now.
@clarenceboddicker40234 жыл бұрын
Dying because my record collection poisoned me would be such a poetic ending. But I also eat garbage and don't exercise so something else is going to kill me way before a bunch of David Bowie albums.
@torontotonto61893 жыл бұрын
i would say just sit further away from the player
@thewizzla3 жыл бұрын
Feel better brother
@CliffordMiller3 жыл бұрын
@@torontotonto6189 Or right next to it. I tried this and TVOCs didn't move. It was probably his new record player that he took right out the box. It was probably heating up and releasing factory chemicals which it'll eventually stop doing.
@CliffordMiller3 жыл бұрын
@@deniwastaken It's hard to test at home and isn't the shock factor of this particular video. There probably are detrimental environmental impacts and they should be addressed. I'd be curious how they stack up to the impacts of the devices we're putting music on. Sure you could get a ton of music on an iPhone but what horrors are inflicted on the world to create that? The servers to store and deliver that music? All the infrastructure in between? If you buy even 1 dedicated music device, how many vinyls would it take to have an equivalent environmental impact? I'd wager vinyl is barely a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things but we need proper studies to find out. This aspect of the debate is also only applicable to purchases of new vinyl as we can't change the impacts of pre-existing records.
@GawainSSB3 жыл бұрын
@@deniwastaken Thats because "environmental" arguments which attack people in The US/Europe/Japan etc are entirely moot points when China and India are contributing vastly more to the environmental problem than all of them combined. If people actually cared they would focus on where it will actually matter. Reducing the impact of an already minimal part of the overall contribution is meaningless.
@johnchedsey13062 жыл бұрын
After going through the formats of cassettes, then CDs, then briefly thinking I wanted a vinyl collection (that took up too much space), then back to CDs....then finally digitizing my collection...let's just say that when I want a physical product from a band, it's a dang tshirt. And then I can be a walking billboard for my favorite musicians.
@GoB1996 Жыл бұрын
I’d still say get a cassette or CD. There’s Gonna be a world like The Book of Eli where digital content just won’t exist, I couldn’t imagine waking up to the internet just being gone, all my collections would cease to exist
@polaris911 Жыл бұрын
CDs are coated in BPA unfortunately
@GadgetCM Жыл бұрын
@@GoB1996 I mean, you can still keep your offline DRM-free digital files as well. That is unless you're relying on streaming services that much.
@arisumego7 ай бұрын
@@polaris911 what is that? why is it bad for us? couldnt find a clear answer on the internet also do you have a source for this?
@kaitlyn__L5 ай бұрын
@@arisumegoit’s a chemical that was in the news about 20-25 years ago when lots of kids’ plastic cutlery and crockery was found to leech it into foods. It’s pretty dangerous to eat, not sure if being on a CD is a problem (or even true). To me it reminds me of people who don’t want plastic water pipes due to potential leeching (reasonable) who then go on to act like PVC window frames are toxic and poisoning everyone in the building (dubious af).
@kgbinfo3 жыл бұрын
I spent a whole year avoiding this video because I was afraid of the truth. I was finally able to confront it today, and I want to thank you, Benn, for standing up and saying something that you knew people didn't want to hear. I didn't either, because of how much I cherish my vinyl collection, but my concern for the health of our planet eventually won and I decided it would be better to know the truth. I hope other vinyl lovers feel the same way and demand a safer material for the future of record manufacturing. Thanks again Benn, and keep on doing what you're doing. It's a real rare thing to find someone so dedicated to finding the truth in the age of "alternative facts". Stay safe!
@thecardboardsword3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a pc?
@runnersdialzero1244 Жыл бұрын
Why "demand safer material" for vinyl instead of just moving on from it? The format has been obsolete for four decades. Enough already.
@goldbullet50 Жыл бұрын
The environmental impact is negligible. If we'd get rid of vinyls, we'd still have the same unsustainable society and way of life, only without vinyl records. Same applies to most feel-good solutions we have for the environment. The problem is a world that requires a billion cars driving around. The problem is every single household item and consumer good having global supply chains. The problem is every societal function requiring a huge amount of energy slaves. We are talking about huge, structural flaws plaguing our modern society and its most inherent functions, not a set amount of individual single issues that will magically save the planet once solved. That being said, finding a new, more sustainable material for vinyl records doesn't hurt anyone.
@littleeark1 Жыл бұрын
@@goldbullet50 Agreed. At the end of the day the entire problem is capitalism.
@weschilton Жыл бұрын
@@goldbullet50 Yeah so lets do nothing. Thats the answer surely.
@--..__4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to watch this segment of "Hidden Killers of the 20's Home" in 80 years. if I live that long...
@jonytube3 жыл бұрын
Meh, we won't.
@RanDieBam3 жыл бұрын
Liked for you username
@DarkTrapStudio4 ай бұрын
@@jonytubeHe has more chance than you for sure.
@RetroPlus3 жыл бұрын
**takes record out of mouth** Awww man this was not a good video to watch during lunchtime...
@Wyattporter3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know about you, man, but I only eat my sandwiches off CDs.
@asdfwerty33912 жыл бұрын
CD Bagel
@v1sq11 ай бұрын
Ok now this might be the first time in a while that I've been confronted with an idea that I literally never thought about, and now that I've been educated on the health risks and environmental implications of vinyl, I have no idea what to do with this information. Great video.
@BigMoneyB7493 жыл бұрын
Wait, so you're telling me, I could have "Killed by David Bowie LPs" on my gravestone, and it would not be a lie?
@abbieurick11823 жыл бұрын
Honestly this ain’t a bad idea!
@dancehallneil69894 жыл бұрын
Yes I've played vinyl... No I didn't inhale.
@MrDustpile4 жыл бұрын
Between him and those dipshits claiming roast dinner smell is poisonous, I don't know whose teeth I'd like to kick in more !!!
@SmashinAdams4 жыл бұрын
if he's not lying & cares so much, why doesn't he have a 'link below' on how to get one of those meters? Also, his record collection is in his house also.
@ashleygustafsson15863 жыл бұрын
Classic!!
@XenonOrion3 жыл бұрын
dude thats a haiku
@jonpatchmodular3 жыл бұрын
@@MrDustpile uhmmmmmm okayy-ish you go have fun with your cancer
@owendavies71923 жыл бұрын
While this Is pretty cool I’m simply built different and will not allow them to affect me
@alexishogue32093 жыл бұрын
Dwight?
@coolbugfacts123418 күн бұрын
it's merely a skill issue
@joshsutton90044 жыл бұрын
(Me looking deeply into my record collections unblinking eyes while watching this video) "guess ill die then"
@XenonOrion3 жыл бұрын
dude thats a haiku
@MrBangen20123 жыл бұрын
@@XenonOrion nah
@L00PdeL00P3 жыл бұрын
@@XenonOrion Bro they’re not a haiku is a poem with the format of 5 syllables 7 syllables 5 syllables Like this: Oh, my aching back Might as well call workman’s comp It’s thrown out again
@cartilagehead63263 жыл бұрын
The VOC meter experiment’s pretty solid but you needed to remove the turntable as a variable. If pvc off-gassing is the culprit then the meter should go off with only an LP and no turntable present. If the meter alarm is going off whenever the turntable is set on “play” then you have to address the possibility that the VOCs are being produced by the turntable itself, like from the belt or another internal component. Setting good control scenarios (meter + LP only, and meter + turntable only) would eliminate that doubt
@CliffordMiller3 жыл бұрын
It was the turntable. I tried this with a meter. I couldn't reproduce it with my old table but with a newer one I can reproduce it a little without a record.
@andrepinto78953 жыл бұрын
he tested the turntable without the record, but it seems that he indeed missed the turntable playing without a record. it would be nice to test this.
@qpidnyx33292 жыл бұрын
why should the turntable gas, there is just a motor running...
@Superphilipp2 жыл бұрын
@@qpidnyx3329 abrasion from rubber belts
@fe3bal2 жыл бұрын
@@qpidnyx3329 it's made of plastic, and has various plastic components.
@Gaunerchen11 ай бұрын
Honestly the reason I buy Vinyl (not often, but sometimes), is that Vinyl covers look so much better (mostly due to size and not being plastic) than CDs. If they sold CDs in oversized Paper Covers I would gladly buy that instead.
@arisumego7 ай бұрын
actually Aphex Twin's new project came as a big ol' cover/popup thing with a CD inside, pretty cool
@primordial.sounds2 ай бұрын
Posters could do the trick too.
@boiledelephantАй бұрын
I wish there was a Vinyl size poster format that artists (rather than sketchy eBay pirates) sold. They're such good looking things.
@matthewv7893 жыл бұрын
Optimal Media makes records from 100% recycled material (re-vinyl), and there’s also DeepGrooves and others that are trying to make the process more environmentally friendly also (avoiding heavy metals, using injection molding instead of pressing for lower energy use, etc.), not to mention environmentally friendly, recycled packaging and carbon offsets.
@Seamalicous3 жыл бұрын
On the environmental side, recycling something does not necessarily make it more environmentally friendly. It partially ameliorates the original damage (arguably) but you are a) still not guaranteeing that the vinyl will be properly disposed of when the recycled version reaches its end of life and b) expending energy to create the new product. While different manufacturing materials may help in the future, it is still highly unlikely that the expenditures associated with a physical product versus a digital one can be bridged.
@use1essjams2 жыл бұрын
this is awesome! thanks for sharing !
@brmbkl2 жыл бұрын
@@Seamalicous reusing instead of recycling, meaning second hand vinyl and second hand turntables are the way to go. ofcourse, quality is key; not all 20 year old turntables will run smoothly, but there is one brand that does. (sadly prices skyrocketed when discontinued - now resurrected with a simlar price problem ) And not to be superfluous when the argument has been used before, but it's important to note that music in the cloud is about as environmentally sane as driving an electric car on coal-electricity.
@eggaiug2 жыл бұрын
@@Seamalicous Also maybe recycled records are even more toxic?
@juannot13532 жыл бұрын
@lucky luk9 what is this magical thinking. You've seriously never seen a pile of discarded vinyls post moving? Besides, hard drives and flash drives have perfectly usable materials leftover that can be salvaged after the fact and serve far more uses than just holding a spitful of songs, vinyl records have terrible recycling potential outside of just making more vinyl records. If you really wish to avoid the cloud because you legitimately think the massive infrustracture behind it that powers the modern internet is in anyway stressed by accomodating the extremely light files that bring music to you, you can do what most people without unlimited data plans already do and just press the little "download" button that keep the songs on your device after a single stream, incredible! If you want to support the artist, just about all of them have a donation link or a digital good you can purchase to pay your dues and then you don't even have to create landfill filling, hope the advice helps
@RussellHolcombe4 жыл бұрын
My peepee hurts so bad right now. Just started collecting vinyl last year and have some of my granddads from the 60s. Maybe I’ll just listen to them until I die which will be soon.
@bobyatron75253 жыл бұрын
I found you last night re: Behringer controversy (because when there's controversy it's always recommended by youtube) but I've spent most of the morning just listening to this stuff while I go about my day. This channel is fucking cool.
@feelingevaporated29123 жыл бұрын
You should check out his music!
@dreamfountain92444 жыл бұрын
Bro, I Iiterally have my whole collection beside my bed. YIKES
@QoraxAudio4 жыл бұрын
Meh, plenty people have vinyl flooring in their bedroom. Living with plastics is part of modern life.
@dreamfountain92444 жыл бұрын
@@QoraxAudio Yeah plastic is everywhere :D I put my records and my vinyl player in another room instead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@jwdewdney67574 жыл бұрын
relax - it's fake news - will get lots of hits though i 'm sure
@KnzoVortex3 жыл бұрын
@@jwdewdney6757 And the round earth is fake news. He cited scientific sources to make this video, that should be enough to prove it real.
@Kameron-The-Crafter3 жыл бұрын
@@QoraxAudio not all plastic is the same though.
@danielristovdr4 жыл бұрын
Y’all just send me your records then
@josephriddlestone46843 жыл бұрын
I’m in the process of starting a label and artist support with my friend and this is the elephant in the room I’ve been thinking about a lot. I was only concerned about the carbon footprint associated with production and shipping, this has been quite a shock. Exceptionally eloquent argument man, you deserve respect not abuse for making such a big sacrifice. I also watched your video on Behringer, very eloquent and insightful. Thank you for being brave in your work 🙏🏻 I’ll will look for your music.
@Weaverbeats3 жыл бұрын
What's up just currently having a panic attack while watching this hbu guys
@CT-ho6si3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about it, the unit he's using for measurement is cheap and unreliable, you can find them on Amazon under different brand names but they're all mass-produced gadgets from China with no certification or calibration documentation. I've done the same test with a lab-calibrated air quality meter and there is literally no change when I place it near vinyl. I've tested new vinyl, old vinyl, there's nothing.
@TehAwesomer3 жыл бұрын
@@CT-ho6si I'm sure many people with large vinyl collections would appreciate if you were to publish your methodology and results on a site like Medium. 🙏
@CT-ho6si3 жыл бұрын
@@TehAwesomer Thanks for the comment, I've been considering making my own video -- I'm curious why you mentioned Medium, can you let me know why you prefer that site?
@TehAwesomer3 жыл бұрын
@@CT-ho6si I just meant "a blog post," if it were 2010 I would have said "Blogger." Your own video would also be good.
@StagFiesta3 жыл бұрын
I saw this right after I ordered a big collection of vinyls so me tooooooooooooo
@teamcoalhapcharcoal3 жыл бұрын
I just like having a record on. I like CDs too. I don't wanna listen to music on the computer all the time
@jefferyreber16823 жыл бұрын
I'm actually just getting into some base-level record collecting. The thing is, I don't do it out of some perception that the audio is superior. I just like the artwork and that putting on the record feels like more of an experience to add to the music. I agree that digital audio is superior, and yes, I could put on Spotify and just listen to an album all the way through, but there's something I can't quite explain that feels good about putting a record on and just sitting there, listening to the audio all the way through and having to get up to flip the disc. I don't get the people that spaz out when they hear criticisms of the format, though.
@alajononon3 жыл бұрын
Same. And I have never held onto a digital format. Things get corrupted. Storage formats change. Licenses to digital content aren't exactly ours even when we pay for them. Vinyl I will have until I die and then can be sold to someone else or passed on. All of that said, I'm definitely down with changes made to manufacturing to make people who make and buy vinyl safer. And to make it more green. Good thing is all of that is happening. Also, very quick research reveals great counterpoints to it being harmfully toxic to listeners. For one, the monitor he uses is right by the record where concentration would be highest. Typically, you would keep a monitor for personal air safety on yourself with a main monitor mounted in the room. But it is good to know I need to not keep my face right by my player.
@theSHOP313 жыл бұрын
Yes, what this guy said.
@nicvzr3 жыл бұрын
This video feels like an Android vs iPhone debate lol, yeah digital is technically higher spec sound but vinyl is a better experience (in my personal opinion)
@eclipsor3 жыл бұрын
why not just buy cds
@Bork_In_Volcanic3 жыл бұрын
Vinyl is merchandise nowadays.
@cynical83303 жыл бұрын
The records won't kill me as fast as the drugs and they go together so well I might as well embrace it
@8LegoVogel82 ай бұрын
Vinylally someone gets it.
@josephjewett2686 Жыл бұрын
Your videos have gone into so much more deep material than I thought when I first found your channel. I love it.
@clubjumping3 жыл бұрын
Artwork and musical art combined. Even better when the lyrics are written on the inner sleeve
@moonheads3 жыл бұрын
After watching this I bought an air quality detector and couldn’t replicate these results. I played records next to it and stacked them up in a similar way and got no increase in HCHO or TVOC or pm2.5 or pm10 it stayed within ‘good’ levels. I played old records from the 60s, 70s and 80s and recent records I even played Dopesmoker by Sleep and no increase.
@historicarchives48413 жыл бұрын
Nobody could. Those air quality detectors are very unreliable.
@shayneoneill15062 жыл бұрын
If you really want the polyvinyl stank, your gonna need to listen to Mr Squarepusher and feed your vinyl weird things. Or perhaps some fucked up bong-ra riddims or some banged up industrial insanity from Alex Empire. The music must make the equipment angry, and then the poison emerges. Only breakcore is capable of warping the air. Fucked up chemistry needs fucked up beats. Hey, dont blame me, its the law.
@buckstarchaser23762 жыл бұрын
Thanks for going out of your way to test the claims of someone trying to push his assumptions on everyone. Nearly all of the things he says in this video have viable counterarguments, such as the new IKEA table he's wafting air up from with each tester freakout. The process and preservative chemicals used in the "recycled wood product" that makes that table possible and affordable will trigger all of those alarms, but needs his record or body movement to stir the air first. I immediately suspected that this trick would be employed when he talked about sealing the room as carefully as he - actually didn't - but simply caused the air to be more or less still. Nearly every point he makes is a quick and easy debunk, and mostly using examples of everyday products that have the same criteria as his target object. The key takeaway from this video should have been, or simply included with emphasis: "Indoor air is generally unhealthy. Along with everything else in your house, vinyl records also contribute to poor air quality in your home. Ensuring that your living space has good fresh air exchange is important to respiratory and overall health. " But that's as boring as a statement from the government health agencies that he cites for clout, while pumping the volume on his bullshit cause, which only contributes to an overall reduction in the mental health of anyone willing to listen to him talk about shit he doesn't understand.
@sircolt81842 жыл бұрын
Vinyl is cancerous though and horrible for the environment.
@buckstarchaser23762 жыл бұрын
@@sircolt8184 So are the multitude of things you used to type and relay that statement. The people who assembled those things, are likely either still working with exposure-related health issues, or already dead at a young age. Yet, you don't think about these things when you consume the uncountable objects in your life. Ask yourself why you focus your energy on this one thing, and who stands to gain from your oblivious service?
@BustApsycho4 жыл бұрын
Just wow! You got me thinking quite a bit and I sooo appreciate you making a stance on this and standing your ground. Absolutely inspiring and I appreciate it a lot!
@rawselectmusic43954 жыл бұрын
Is vinyl the new smoking?
@XenonOrion4 жыл бұрын
*vaping
@KnzoVortex4 жыл бұрын
@@XenonOrion How could an old thing become the newer version of a newer thing?
@XenonOrion4 жыл бұрын
you haven't seen the news?
@jackcullen85314 жыл бұрын
@@XenonOrion bruh. fucking nailed it.
@XenonOrion3 жыл бұрын
@@enragedlemon3115 _that's old news bruh_
@joeszilvagyi4 жыл бұрын
If there were considerable health risks to having old vinyl around, I would expect there to be corresponding health problems for long time record store owners (especially ones with large used inventory). Thinking about the proprietors of records in the hundreds of record stores I've stopped in across the country, the majority of the owners have been older enthusiasts who have been exposed to high concentrations of record collections for years without any significant health issues. I don't think the relatively small collection in my house is going to pose any significant health risk. Possibly placing the air quality sensor more than a few inches from the record would allow the PVOC to disperse to a more reasonable concentration. One thing left out of the video in favour of vinyl is the physical interaction with the music. The time commitment to selecting what you want to spend the next 15 to 20 minutes doing keeps me involved as a listener. When I have a playlist of endless music available, it starts to just wash over me and become part of the background. I much prefer the engagement with the music that I enjoy while playing records.
@AMetalheadsJourney4 жыл бұрын
He's mostly using a really old tactic from the times of the Bible.. politicians use it all the time.. it's called fear mongering! Literally everybody before 1990 grew up with Vinyl records in their house or even in their room. I'm not debating the toxicity of Vinyl but I bet that air quality changes with just the things in the room. If you bring a plastic bottle into your house and put that meter next to it, it'll probably do the same thing. lol.
@jclark16933 жыл бұрын
I also like that it’s physical. I don’t even need electricity to find a way to hear what’s on a record. It’s a legitimate archival medium. File formats, Chips, all that stuff changes and has its own drawbacks. I don’t think vinyl should be treated like a mass market commodity (and if you buy it from Walmart you’re kind of an asshole). I only buy records I already know I love, none of it is or ever will be trash unless I die.
@Aquatarkus963 жыл бұрын
@@AMetalheadsJourney Different kinds of plastics there..
@LeoEggert3 жыл бұрын
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@nolansmock63603 жыл бұрын
I’ve worked in record stores for years, and dug through a lot of collections, and when I talked to others that did this, we all knew what it meant when you’d feel sick after looking through a lot of boxes. Is it mold? Feeling tired? It makes me wonder, but also is just a way to point out the environmental cost of manufacturing vinyl. But he doesn’t leave that out. It’s specifically addressed at the end of the video, and I agree. I also smoke, even though I know it’s bad for me. I just like the feeling.
@dystopiannoise6782 Жыл бұрын
Am on a Benn Jordan marathon atm., i'll try to remember clicking "back" over and over again and like everything once finished. 10/1 content, thanks!
@derkbergman3 жыл бұрын
About the test you did, there are two important variables (in my opinion) that you didn't address. First, your location (or the air monitor's) in the room relative to the turntable. I suppose the further away from the turntable you get, the more diluted the particles get in the air, and thus less of a risk. The second is the dust cover. I always have mine down while playing a record to keep dust from settling on it. But it works the other way around too: it prevents these particles from leaving. I'm quite confident that the dust cover more often than has enough static energy to hold the small particles, thus only polluting the inside of the cover. I can't argue with the fact that it would be interesting to see a propper, peer reviewed study on the subject.
@roo35154 ай бұрын
Static aside, when you open the dust cover to change the record, a puff of more particle dense air will go straight to your face....
@vierdz4 жыл бұрын
Good video Benn, thanks for putting the time and effort into making it, I learned quite a bit. Shared it with a few buddies of mine, thanks!
@vincentduchesne40684 жыл бұрын
Aright, I'll keep an oxygen tank next to my turntables until we find a solution.
@user29a3 жыл бұрын
Ben, any chance of getting the voice without the music from this so I can make techno about how vinyl is over ?
@SuperAleaiactaest3 жыл бұрын
Yeah post the stems!
@TehAwesomer3 жыл бұрын
FWIW, you could run the video audio through Spleeter (splitter.ai) and, because the music is so quiet, almost certainly obtain (lossy compressed by KZbin) vocals without music which would (other than the lossy compresison) be of sufficient quality to sample.
@ju9ernaut5733 жыл бұрын
Plz press on 200 white labels
@user29a3 жыл бұрын
@@ju9ernaut573 i hear the kids are doing VHS these days.
@L00PdeL00P3 жыл бұрын
I like vinyl because it’s a physical medium and it helps me connect with my music. As opposed to _buying the license_ to listen to an m4a file. Also, a lot of old music I love comes on vinyl. Russ Freeman’s Nocturnal Playground, Mint jams by Casiopea, close to the edge by Yes, My Best by Kitaro, discipline by King Crimson, all great sounding and originally mixed specifically for vinyl. Also, nothing compares to putting on Opera Sauvage and lying on the floor. dust is there sometimes, sometimes not, it’s like a little consultation that it’s a real physical representation of the music and not some nebulous file. I am a younger fellow, and have no connection to the medium nostalgia-wise. I just like it for what it is. Too bad about the part where I die
@DEADW00DE3 жыл бұрын
Just buy cds tho
@L00PdeL00P3 жыл бұрын
@@DEADW00DE Imma get into cassettes instead. It’s analog. And I can listen to em on the go. Thinking about a WM EX series Walkman.
@eclectic-kitty3 жыл бұрын
Buying digital music (not streaming) isn't buying a license though. You do get actual mp3s or wavs or flacs. Sure you're not legally allowed to distribute them to other people, but you're not really supposed to do that with vinyl either...
@graydhd8688 Жыл бұрын
@@eclectic-kitty I mean, the equivalent for vinyl would be having a press and replicating your vinyl records to give away or sell cheaply
@artless3438 Жыл бұрын
@@L00PdeL00P I would highly recommend CDs. I will let you be an adult, but the fact I can buy a $2 pre owned CD of an album and have its FLAC files and a physical box is astounding. Still, enjoy yourself - A former cassette collector
@bcornels4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this and all the time you take to get things right. You are such a rare combination of awesome things: Music, Technology, Objectivity, Science, Rational Environmental Conservation, and, feeding my Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
@westelaudio9434 жыл бұрын
No objectivity. PVC is everywhere. Microscopic particles... It's all around us... As if vinyl makes a difference, cool it with the paranoia and get a life.
@DJlegionuk4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering all of this, I had so many discussions with people who would not belive me when I say the warmth of vinyl is a result of the limitations of the medium and can be reproduced on any digital file. I will add that buying records is actually good from the point of collecting and actually owning something physical. I have spent a lot of money on mp3, wav ect and I would get next to nothing for it them if I decided to stop DJing, unlike a record collection.
@JacobVBurg3 жыл бұрын
Time and time again, I'll start watching one of your videos based on a premise that I don't necessarily agree with, only to come out at the end learning something extremely valuable that I was totally unaware of. I have personal issues with physical records because of the ease at which they can enable a hoarding addiction, but some of your points are far and beyond anything that I could have imagined. I love your channel and your approach to these topics!
@thesearethesuns3 жыл бұрын
Good for you man! I've had the same concerns about releasing my music on vinyl... as much as it was once a dream of mine. I'm perfectly fine with people listening to my digitalized, compressed music on earbuds, um... closed back headphones.
@djstarsign4 жыл бұрын
The ironic thing about vinyl is how it’s become a privileged item. I’ve seen some of the rereleased vinyl of immensely popular albums and they’re priced at $38 or something ridiculous. When I was a teenager, buying a cd cost about $15-20 while buying used vinyl was anywhere between 50 cents to about $10 on the high end. A record priced at $25 was considered a fortune. While not all the vinyl was in perfect condition, a vast majority was good to VG. it was the medium for the budget music listener and it was very proletariat. Now it’s switched. As much as I like vinyl, the subscription to a music service has been a dream medium (for the most part-there are still some releases you won’t find on there) at an affordable cost. I used to dj at clubs and always preferred vinyl digital files on loud systems, but the digital files these days have vastly improved and most of the time, I can’t tell the difference if it’s a good quality file.
@bernsky2 жыл бұрын
this is my biggest issue with it, im poor. i managed to collect a lot of great music very very cheaply, paying as much as 4$ for a record! now i cant afford to own the music, but youtube lets me listen free. remember when if you wanted to hear an album/musician you had to track down a physical copy - go to a friends house etc? the future is here.
@feldinho2 жыл бұрын
As soon as everyone got a good quality camera on their pockets, crappy analog cameras (lomos and polaroids) became popular again just because it was more expensive. Some people enjoy the clout of throwing money at their hobbies more than the hobbies themselves.
@mr.automatic3622 Жыл бұрын
That's why cassettes came back and why right now is the time to be thrifting CDs.
@jamescarter319610 ай бұрын
New vinyl might be 'privileged' but most of it isn't new.
@rjwusher3 жыл бұрын
'Find what you love and let it kill you.' - Kinky Friedman
@danielnuzum81174 жыл бұрын
This is honestly so cool that you tested this out, I would love to see a full fledged study on this and hopefully a movement to create environmentally friendly vinyl. If my band gets anywhere near to the size where creating vinyl is viable then I will continue your mindset, love this video and love your channel!
@somekid74 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it took me as long as it did to get around to these videos. I grew up listening to The Flashbulb (I think I was about 13) and now at 25, I'm finally getting into synthesizers because of dungeon synth. These videos are top notch quality content. I never got into vinyl/records because I couldn't justify the purchase to myself, but it was a distant goal of mine, even having known some of the harsh effects on the environment. Now that I've learned about the health risks, I actually feel a bit relieved and proud to say that I don't think I'll ever buy them. MP3 v0 has been my preferred medium for music, and it's nice to have such strong encouragement to practice discipline and deny convenience for pleasure's sake, while it seems the rest of the world is twisting my arm to join the cool audiophile gang. It's also nice to embrace minimalism and watch out for my health, after spending so much time doing the exact opposite.
@DerekRobertsteig4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this, because it's important and has a lot of truth behind it. Midway through it, I definitely was trying to figure out how to manage my modest collection. I'd love an environmentally friendly alternative if it's ever developed, but I don't know what to do with my stuff in the meantime. Some serious food for thought into the future of the "holy grail" of physical release formats. I was contemplating something similar to your handmade boxes for a release of mine, but looking back, it probably wasn't environmentally friendly either. I guess the creativity lies in the solutions of what physical care musicians can put into their art. Thanks again for the talk, Benn. Great stuff.
@Degges994 жыл бұрын
Definitely makes you think. I'm all for ditching pvc in exchange for a recyclable alternative. Side note, "arboreal" is one of the best albums of all time. Cheers!
@protoian93534 жыл бұрын
You misspelled Kirlian Selections.
@timmorris14324 жыл бұрын
@@protoian9353 It's totally Arboreal. But both are fantastic.
@dormin_56934 жыл бұрын
@@protoian9353 You misspelled Girls Suck But You Don't
@Einnor0844 жыл бұрын
Nicholas Degges I'm willing 2 bet Hemp could b an answer
@mikeexits4 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I've been saying; hemp-based bioplastic is the future. Heck, hemp-based anything, really.
@nelsonnichols9223 жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful video. I grew up during the age of vinyl and listened to thousands of hours of Music On Vinyl. I really appreciate your careful evaluation and presentation of the dangers and environmental repercussions vinyl records
@gr4hamm3 жыл бұрын
damn that end bit about listening to music nearly brought me to tears for some reason. a powerful observation
@Starkadr134 жыл бұрын
Thank you for presenting this information! I had no clue about how toxic the material components of vinyl are until now. I only own some vinyl records (probably around 60 to 70 albums/singles in total) and now I am really glad that I have a small apartment which has forced me into being a digital DJ that spins lossless files and 320 mp3s instead of a physical format.
@TheDungeonDive2 жыл бұрын
Been actively listening to albums since about 1982, and I've never really understood the whole vinyl thing, beyond the bigger art work and cool poster inserts, which are cool.
@94XJ2 жыл бұрын
I think it's the intentionality of it. The closing point about taking a break and so forth struck me. There's a physical interaction with the music rather than searching a file name in a digital library and listening to a single track and moving on.
@jamescarter319610 ай бұрын
It takes more effort to make them sound good, but if you like to sit down and put your head between the speakers and listen to an entire album with no distractions, records are well worth the effort. CDs are good too but sometimes the vinyl version of things actually can be better, and I'm saying this with specific examples in my collection, not from a casual 'records are always better' thing. It's not about being cool, it's about listening to music.
@sandwich24734 жыл бұрын
For the folks who don't care about the quality argument, and just want to go to the environmental stuff, 7:24
@titaniumtester63 жыл бұрын
I have read through a bunch of comments and here's my message to anyone freaking out about their records (but I'm just a guy on the internet not a scientist so take this with a grain of salt): First off, YOU WILL PROBABLY BE FINE. Just because your risk is increased, doesn't mean you will get it. Besides, there are so many products made of PVC chances are there are bigger risks than your vinyl collection. And if it helps put you at ease, the test he did was with an open record player that the meter was right next to. As long as you have a dust cover and don't sit over it, you won't be quite that exposed to it. There are also questions of verification when it comes to what type of meter he used, and that it could have been over-sensitive (though I can't say for sure if it was or wasn't accurate, I know practically nothing about air monitoring equipment). So don't freak out, you'll most likely be fine. That being said, the environmental impact is still a problem. These plastics are clearly not good for humans or the ecosystem, and there are many more recyclable materials that can be used. Some record companies have employed using recyclable methods. I've even seen pressings made out of recycled coke bottles. We should be fighting for a change in how records are made, because it really wouldn't be that hard to make them that way. But realistically if records were dangerous enough that you would have to worry about your own health, record store owners would be dropping dead left and right. Some of the record store owners in the comments talked about how after emptying boxes of them for too long they usually "get dizzy", which means they clearly got a hefty amount of PVC to the point of being able to feel it. Despite this, there hasn't been a boom in record store owner deaths or we would have most certainly have heard something about it. Is that bad for them? Yes of course, but if that amount of exposure doesn't kill a substantial amount of them, chances are your limited exposure won't cause enough damage to concern yourself over. So don't worry, you're ok, just try to buy less PVC and support the movement to get rid of it if you can.
@mulangira793 жыл бұрын
Yeah and what about the production of and waste caused by electronics to play the digital files? Isn't that more toxic than vinyl production.
@Feverm00n2 жыл бұрын
@@mulangira79 when compared to usefulness and considering scale, my gut very much says no, it’s not comparable, vinyl is worse by far. Editing to add why: electronics serve way more functions for us than vinyl records, and that “value” feels pretty important to consider when discussing toxicity. Cancer treatments can be toxic, but the benefit increases the value. Also the fact that records can’t be recycled or even thrown in the trash says a lot. There’s environmental cost to making a computer, but that computer can then go on to make tons of music, or get used in a library, or at a workplace, and even with obsolescence I’d argue the computer “accomplishes” far more than the record. Not to mention electronics recycling, refurbishment, etc. With the record, it’s environmentally costly to make, remains environmentally costly throughout it’s involuntarily infinite lifespan (due to lack of disposal opportunities), and serves an EXTREMELY narrow purpose. But hey what do I know, I’m a rando with a displeasure for “whatabout x” as a distraction tactic, not an environmental scientist.
@mulangira792 жыл бұрын
@@Feverm00n I guess the way to know what is more toxic would be to quantify how many vinyl records and record players vs. how many music playing digital consumer items and production tools make up our landfills. Im not claiming a side here I just see the logic is not exactly accurate. Both methods are inevitably toxic once they get to the landfill, but realistically how much gets to the landfill. Tech is designed with obsolescence in mind. Tech is made with the end point preconceived as being a landfill or e waste recycling (which a whole other polluted can of worms i.e. mercury and lead from circuit boards being dumped into rivers, lithium batteries etc... ).Vinyl was invented without a thought of it ever leaving the shelf.
@herbertherbert39094 жыл бұрын
Next your going to tell me my synth is killing me! (By the way, please don’t tell me my synths are killing me because I will simply let them). This video is crazy important! Thank you thank you!
@paticusmaximus123 жыл бұрын
Yep if the cases are plastic...its out gassing chemicals.
@Metamerist6253 жыл бұрын
Wow, I had no idea!! Fascinating video, thanks for sharing this information. Personally I grew up with MP3's and perfectly happy with digital myself. I have no nostalgia for vinyl and never understood what the fuss is all about. Besides, I don't have space to store everything that I listen to physically (and I listen to an awful lot) so digital is just a no-brainer. I have decent quality headphones and monitors and storage devices, and (importantly) a quiet room where I can listen undisturbed all things I am super grateful for - its taken me 15yrs to get to the position where I can have these things.
@batflash5 ай бұрын
Fellow musician and new fan here. Damn, what a great presentation. How perfectly you stated that last bit about taking the time out of our day to listen to an album the way it's intended... sigh, I wish more people loved music in a focused manner rather than treating it like some backdrop with a "catchy beat" for their day. As for the meat and potatoes of your point... I really do hope your argument gets the attention it deserves and gains momentum with the industry. I juuuust recently started going through my dad's old vinyl collection, cleaned up and worked out the kinks on his player, and even started adding vinyl to my shopping carts online. I enjoy the experience and love having some of my favorite albums displayed in the tangible and visual means vinyl has to offer. After getting my dad's turntable up to par, I sat there and listened to records for 6 hours and loved every minute of it. Thanks again!
@charlesdilks32673 жыл бұрын
Most eye opening documentaries I’ve ever watched. Crazy shit. Love these kinds of videos you do Benn
@CyberCreeper223 жыл бұрын
everyone knows reel to reel tape is where its at anyways
@matthewwarner93903 ай бұрын
Edison Wax Cylinders are what the real audiophiles listen to!
@dr.feelicks20514 жыл бұрын
Poisonous pleasures toxic treasures. You bear the curse of knowing most valiantly. An open window with a fan, you're the man.
@nostalgia_junkie4 жыл бұрын
bars
@micah37514 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the meter dropped whemever he switched vinyl?
@hatch18924 жыл бұрын
@ You did notice the meter returned to normal once the vinyl was removed from that table? So no, the table was fine.
@mikeexits4 жыл бұрын
@@hatch1892 I think they were joking
@pjohns9211 ай бұрын
Listening to this again 3 years later I physically stopped and slowly turned my head when I heard the word "Lit"
@trevor_mounts_music3 жыл бұрын
My record collection has outlasted about a half a dozen jobs, ex girlfriends, apartments, etc and will more than likely outlive me 😉
@th3candl3chant4 жыл бұрын
Love the honesty and truth ^^ Been here sinse Red extensions of me ! Awesome videos man ! Computers making music reallly helped put stuff into perspective :D
@jnee3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I think it's probably a good idea to respect vinyl as an old medium. Going to a small club and watching a DJ masterfully mixing classics on vinyl will always be a joyful experience for me (god I miss those nights). There's a century of music on those discs so we should cherish the ones that already exist but moving forward I agree that digital audio makes more sense. Loosing Record Stores however is a conundrum I don't have an answer for :(
@villadante4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you honesty and strong ethic.
@martyonlychld3082 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great video and totally unexpected results! thanks Benn, great work 🙌
@antfactor4 жыл бұрын
I DJ'd for three years starting around '89. I loathed lugging around records, though I love the format primarily due to the larger art-work. That said: I would NEVER go back to all the limitations of vinyl for dozens of reasons now - many of which are creative - especially if I were DJ'ing. Sooooo many better options now. Thanks for this!!
@robotube73613 жыл бұрын
I like this dude. He isnt afraid to speak his mind and stays true to his convictions.
@jamescarter319610 ай бұрын
Even if he has to make up pseudo-science to pretend like he's got a great point when he doesn't.
@panfriedegg50483 жыл бұрын
The reason I like vinyl is 3 fold. I like the aesthetic, the *large* album covers, the unique and distinct grooves or in some cases actual qualities of the vinyl material. Another reason is that they are uniquely tactile; go to the shelf, look for an album, pick out the album, take it out of the sleeve, put it on the table, start the table; all of it is physical and in real space in front of you. Lastly, and this plays into the previous point, it forces me to slow down; I can go on my phone and listen to any song by any artist at any moment, any playlist, and I can do that on a whim; vinyl forces me to pick a specific album from a specific artist and listen through. No song skips, nothing, just me and the time it takes to pick an album and listen to it. All of this, especially the last point, is good for my mental health, it's incredibly helpful for me. None of this is related to sound quality, or storage. Healthwise it's a calculated risk. The benefits I get from the listening experience of vinyl outweigh any perceived negatives, and I say perceived because in the case of storage I see the reduced capacity as a plus. Listening experience is so much more than just sound quality, it's everything in the way you interact with music. Why else would you go to a live show if the album is the most refined and difinitive version of the music? It's a different experience. I'm not some purist, I listen to music via phone/computer or cd vast majority of the time, but I'll put on some vinyl when I really need it.
@bespectacledheroine7292 Жыл бұрын
I don't have any illusions about it sounding better. I don't think that at all. I just love owning my favorite things (I collect books and movies as well), and the interactive nature of records grounds me. I love putting a record on, flipping it, looking at artwork as it spins, watching it spin, it's an intoxicating process and makes me feel connected to people of the past who are long gone but did this all the time too. I've always known it's bad for the environment, but on this one thing, I guess I'm terribly selfish. Collecting is one of the things that makes me happiest and I'm sticking to it.
@jamescarter319610 ай бұрын
So you're one of the many people who doesn't know how to make records sound good, so that means you're not the person to listen to on this subject, not an authority, not real insight. Please don't be one more person confusing your low skill level with 'records don't sound very good'. If we're gonna be like that, then the fact is most mp3s are badly-compressed and have lots of digital artifacts, so that means 'digital music bad' since that's how most of it actually sounds. Records win again.
@dank501810 ай бұрын
@jamescarter3196 He's not saying they sound bad. He's just saying they don't magically sound better. Too many people who first get into collecting records feel the need to justify their hobby on the "sound quality". Also you're assuming things about this person's setup and knowledge because you have no other arguments. Nothing they said indicates they have a poor setup. You're just assuming that because they don't blindly claim records sound better than digital audio. This implies you'd only take their argument seriously if they already agree with your position. Your argument is completely backwards. So much of the audiophile community is rotten to the core with sacred shibboleths and massive egos ballooned by monetary investment. As someone who has been a part of that toxic community, I hope you find your way out one day.
@kaitlyn__L5 ай бұрын
@@dank5018hear hear. I was also part of it until I dared say midrange equipment was good enough for most people. Then I got kicked out 😅 which did me a favour really.
@jesiahheiberg7364 жыл бұрын
@Benn could you post the links to the studies you mention regarding health hazards please?
@TrogdorBurnin8or3 жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction as you to the particulates, but the formaldehyde threw me at first. Phenol formaldehyde binders are a large fraction - several percent by mass - of the chipboard table the turntable is sitting on.
@jamescarter319610 ай бұрын
One of many pieces of evidence that this dude is just trying to make money off the ignorance of the 'digital better, vinyl bad' crowd-- the know-nothings who want to feel smart for taking the easy route and pretend it's 'better'.
@Ed-davies2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel and been going through your back catalog of videos, this is by far an outstanding but bitter sweet video. I love vinyl and have listened to many hours of it and was aware of the particles it thew out but not to the extent you have highlighted here, scary stuff to say the least. I think part of the magic of vinyl is that there is no skip button and you can’t scrub through, and as you say you can EQ the music to replicate vinyl. Now i just have to figure out what to do with my hundereds of vinyl albums!
@apathypeace11 ай бұрын
im glad this video is 3 years old and vinyl is bigger than ever, going to buy some more right now
@honeysucklecat4 жыл бұрын
This is one of best vids ever. Epic , and also, wicked awesome
@SimonTheMagpie4 жыл бұрын
HIPSTERS UNITE AND BURN YOUR VINYLS!! EXCEPT DONT BURN THEM... THEY ARE POISON!!! 😅 Once again thanks for opening our eyes! Im looking forward to referencing you in all my upcoming conversations about vinyl 😎😎🤓🤓
@miss.antidote4 жыл бұрын
its for hipsters with more money then sense
@fortheloveofnoise92984 жыл бұрын
Noooooo, don't join the darkside Magpie! Vinyl for life! They could find a better material to make them out of.
@davemakesnoises4 жыл бұрын
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 y tho
4 жыл бұрын
All plastics are poison.
@fortheloveofnoise92984 жыл бұрын
@@davemakesnoises I prefer the sound characteristics of records, no EQing a tracknon other media can get there for me. If I rip the vinyl to digital then it keeps some of the flavor at least.
@mikebrodhead3 жыл бұрын
Benn, I love that you can deliver so much bad news and meticulous detail while making me laugh my ass off.
@skymakai3 жыл бұрын
Holy Crap! I just randomly came across this video and had no idea who you were until you showed your list of vinyl releases. I love your music!
@SamplersAndThings2 жыл бұрын
The best part about collecting vinyl for me has been for sampling obscure records. A lot of those you would never discover in any other format.
@jabroni14983 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been a vinyl-curious audiophile for a bit, this has helped curb the desire.
@jamescarter319610 ай бұрын
Dude's making clickbait, not informing people about what kind of sound they can achieve. Vinyl is difficult to deal with but the results are frequently head-and-shoulders better sound than CD, regardless of whatever numbers anybody wants to cite, as though music lovers are 'listening to the numbers' in a real sense when they're not.
@jabroni149810 ай бұрын
@@jamescarter3196 tbf you're wrong. What you could say, alternatively, is that you enjoy the warmth associated with the noise and distortion associated with vinyl playback.
@enricodragoni3 жыл бұрын
On the environmental side studies have proved that we emit way more co2 today with digital audio streaming than we did with vinyl when it was at its peak. The main reason for that is : the REBOUND EFFECT The more something is cheap (energetically and financially), the more we will consume of it. Sure your phone can give you acess to tons worth of records, but when people were limited phisically and financially by the cost of records they would just have a smaller collection. Then there is the longevity argument, how many hard drives can survive more than a few decades ? How many digital formats did we abandon already in audio and film ? Then there is the playback devices argument : how many times do you change your turntable, how many times did you change your smartphone ? Which one is easier to repair ? Which one requires more miniaturisation, which one will require more rare earth elements, which one will require more energy to have servers manufactured and running (in the case of streaming)...?
@phliip73624 жыл бұрын
Just a phenomenal piece of work👏👏
@thehowlingterror4 жыл бұрын
Interesting and insightful, thanks for putting in the hours on this subject. I need an 'intervention' for pretty much everything.
@hippiecycling3 жыл бұрын
Ok, so if any one is going to throw their record collection away, please contact me before doing so
@giovannigobbi48323 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@25inbomeportland3 жыл бұрын
You know what’s just as cancerous as vinyl? The Internet.
@thrownstair3 жыл бұрын
I feel like killing myself due to total catastrophic breakdown of faith in humanity after reading too much cringe will get me sooner than the vinyl.
@ccgbassandmore33 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@25inbomeportland3 жыл бұрын
@@thrownstair in a literal sense, too though, seeing as how 4G and WiFi cause brain cancer
@frydfish49343 жыл бұрын
Pit wow we live in a society
@brianholtzmusicsound3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The internet causes sticky & biased webs to form in the brain and clogs the free thinking impulse. Worse yet, the internet lives in big data centers that gobble tons of electricity to run all the servers (which in turn require giant chillers on the roof). So lame. As an IT ex-pat, I simply accept that we are a very young species, progress (whatever that might be) takes a long time, and technology in itself might just be an evolutionary dead end. If you check your human chauvinism at the door, who's to say that ants haven't found the secret to true happiness long ago.
@googleuser3184 жыл бұрын
Fukn mind blowing and illuminating! Best (or maybe most terrifying) video I've watched in a good while. 🙏
@user-wl1uz5sb9f3 жыл бұрын
the birth of djying and club culture is with vinyls and vinyl mixing, people will always peregrinate back to the roots of their craft and honour it.
@flower51853 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. To ask another question along these lines - why collect modular synths or any gear when you can create music in the box? Surely that's safer and more environmentally friendly, right?
@poguri272 жыл бұрын
electronics components are produced completely ethically and are always recycled properly, right? ....right???
@SkinnyVampiress2 жыл бұрын
analog synths consume less energy and lasts longer than any computer, ideally you can use one synth for ages, because repairing old stuff is easy. so no need to recycle, it is more environment friendly :) but personally I would choose analog stuff only for the sound, plugins are not even close.
@flower51852 жыл бұрын
@@SkinnyVampiress But you'll be using a computer regardless. You don't need to use analog synths. More environmentally friendly to use what you already have rather than consume more.
@SkinnyVampiress2 жыл бұрын
@@flower5185 I didn't expect someone will reply :) well... first, I write and record music without a computer. But I use it anyway in day to day life, but it's more than 10 years old laptop and it isn't really capable of running modern DAWs with all necessary vsti instruments.. If I was using the pc to write music, I would need an upgrade, new PC. Second - using analog synth is like playing a guitar, can't really replace it with something virtual. Having a real thing is just more inspiring and encourages you to spend more time creating new sounds, exploring sonic possibilities, etc. Instant feedback from every slight parameter tweak or even from change in room temperature, it's very sensitive and almost alive. Analog feels completely different. It is an expirience, and your music always depends on what you are doing and how. We are human beings after all.. And I am not even talking about the "analog sound" right now.
@flower51852 жыл бұрын
@@SkinnyVampiress I have no problem with you using physical gear. I have a couple pieces as well, I understand the appeal. I was just pointing out that analog gear, modular synths, etc are not really more environmentally friendly than using a computer.
@nostalgia_junkie4 жыл бұрын
how do i save up to replace all the pipes in my workplace
@peterlustig67053 жыл бұрын
Wow i knew this would be interesting but i didnt expect you would go so far with your experiment. Fascinating stuff!
@CliffordMiller3 жыл бұрын
His experiment is faulty. He doesn't show that the new turntable itself is not releasing TVOCs. I couldn't reproduce this with an old turntable. My newer turntable elevated TVOCs a little without vinyl present.
@nexuzeb793 жыл бұрын
Luv your sounds BTW!!! Absolutely awesome :)
@NameyNames Жыл бұрын
Vinyl is good for one thing, and one thing only: it's possible to replay it using 100% mechanical means, requiring neither electronics nor power. It's inferior in every other aspect I can think of.
@SIDEEYEmusic3 жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of the most important music-related videos I’ve seen in my lifetime and thank you for that
@uwu-nyaa3 жыл бұрын
your content is so good, can't wait for that 100k sub celebration
@DirtleTilbury4 жыл бұрын
Frank, I appreciate your candor.
@valley_robot3 жыл бұрын
I'm a massive Beatles fan, but when the albums were released on CD I could not believe how much I had missed, same with Pink Floyd, I didn't even realize the tunes had a snare drum on them
@jamescarter319610 ай бұрын
That's because you had bad turntables, not bad records. People get this wrong all the time.
@jorkad96714 жыл бұрын
I bend my knee to this.
@kelownatechkid Жыл бұрын
Thanks for mentioning this video recently, I missed it initially and wow!
@spod8233 жыл бұрын
I appreciate this video, and I will continue to collect vinyl because it feels good man. 👍