Viper Full In-Depth Review | Six Flags Magic Mountain's Infamous Arrow Mega Looper

[@seanlewis1148]

I know that Six Flags has a lot to cover, especially at Magic Mountain. But I really would loved to have seen Viper get revamped and preserved for it's 30th anniversary, just like Revolution a few years ago.

[@stephenn77]

It needs a major refurb…new otsr’s, padding and paint!

[@seanlewis1148]

@@stephenn77 that's what revamped means...everything has to be covered

[@Johnnyiswhere]

Happy to hear you say this, rather than the usual “tear it down” comments, which are ridiculous. It’s not going anywhere.

[@redpandaz5146]

If it was smoothened out and got new trains, it would be one of the best coasters in the park

[@seanlewis1148]

@@redpandaz5146 YESSIR...VERY BIG missed opportunity if that never happens.

[@foxcoaster3047]

Dude I can’t even tell u how glad I am to find smone who agrees w me on the hand bent track thing. I haven’t ridden Viper, but I know on Magnum, it makes for some of the BEST laterals I’ve ever felt anywhere. I like car 6 row 1 while u exit the turnaround. You get pulled down the spiral and pressed to the right, and then all of a sudden the turn snaps open, and your hanging on your side getting some wicked laterals to the LEFT. I very much want to ride Viper in the next year or two, if it closes before I get there I’d feel like I failed my life’s purpose. Anyway, thanks for the video, gives this wonderful ride some love. And just the sheer size of it too, like, wtf? They take it up that huuuuge hill, pull you to 70mph, but the loops are still MINUSCULE it’s historical I love it

[@mmouser]

I’m 6’ 3” and have to slouch uncomfortably to fit into the restraints, but I still really like this thing. It’s intense and runs remarkably smooth for a massive Arrow looper. Vest restraints would make it even better.

[@ParksBros]

I’m 6’, so I’m pretty much at that perfect height where I’m not hitting my head or slouching. Thanks for watching!

[@redpandaz5146]

It *used* to run rather smooth. Last time I rode it, this August, I felt like I was at actual risk of injury. Probably didn't help that it was near the end of a hot day tho.

[@DariusMakesContent]

I’m about 5’10 and I never had any issue with this after learning the leaning forward method. I love this ride and always go on it. This is my home park that I live 20 mins away from it and I often come to the park on off days after the gym and when I don’t have work I just to go on this and x2 multiple times in a row. I hope they don’t remove it honestly.

[@singlerailindustries1763]

I Love Viper I Really Hope It Won't Get Demolished Because It's The Last Arrow Mega Looper In Operation. Maybe Give It Trains With Vest Restrains Or A Re-Track. Please Six Flags. Keep Viper Alive 🥺 Great Video! 👍😁

[@diveloopthrills7613]

I love Viper too. It’s an amazing ride

[@JuiceWRLD_XXXTENTACION_FOREVER]

I dont think they will fully take it down what they might do is like what they did with revolution take it down then put it back up because they get so old but i think that viper will stand for a long time

[@tiger_ccok]

Got to ride it for the first this past Tuesday and it tbh it isn't as bad as people say. Sure, it can get pretty rough and jerky in some areas, especial during the corkscrews and trims, but if you don't try and look for the roughness you might just see how fun the ride actually is

[@LeJeanZone]

This is a great review of Viper!!! I rode it when it was new. I waited 2 hours in line for it, and it was worth the wait!! Viper was the largest and fastest coaster in the park all through the early 90’s. It had the world’s highest vertical loop for 9 years. It ran pretty fast during the first half of the ride before they added the trim brakes. Viper is still a good ride it just needs new trains! Excellent review!!!

[@ParksBros]

Thanks so much!

[@troyvsc]

Team Love. Front row going into the midcourse tries to eject you so you might land on X2 next door. Intense, rough, and a classic. Was running great this summer. I think it runs better and less janky in the heat. Even got my two kids saying they liked this summer which was a first for them.

[@kappamannyce]

Viper will forever be one of my faves. I was in 9th grade when it was built, and can remember waiting in lines that stretched down to the Carousel. Me & my Crew made a ritual out of posing for the photo every time we went. I hope they never tear it down, and it simply becomes a SFMM legend like it's older brothers Goldrusher, Colossus, Revolution, and Ninja. Crazy now, knowing those are the four oldest coasters in the park.

[@A_Red_Fox]

Six Flags needs to get vekoma or chance to reprofile some spots and give it new trains.

[@oneinajillian1]

Like I always tell ppl who are afraid of it being too jarring... Just make sure to press your head against the back of the seat the whole time and you're golden! This ride gets better with age if you ask me.

[@oblivieon1567]

It's interesting reading the comments. I think MM has done a remarkable job at keeping this ride maintained through the years. Most of these were pretty much unbearable towards the end of their life. I would be open to see what Chance could do with this ride (Ala Phantom's Revenge) or if Vekoma could bring up to date.

[@malachiteperry2538]

I love the sound of Viper’s lift hill. I remember when I first went on it when I was younger. Good times, save Viper!

[@moosepickles1882]

Finally got a chance to ride Viper back in August! I was insanely excited get on the ride because of how iconic it is. I’ve always heard mixed things about it from people. I still don’t know how I feel about it.. It was more intense than I was expecting, but not unbearable. There were definitely some rough moments on the head. For me, it was the second vertical loop and the transition into the corkscrew, but I was expecting the latter. In the back row, I surprisingly enjoyed the final drop after the straight track 😂 I did have a slight headache after the ride, which makes Viper a one-ride-per-visit type of coaster for me. I can definitely see why people love it. My experience on Viper was bittersweet in a way. On one hand, I got to ride a coaster I’ve been dreaming about riding for 20+ years. On the other hand, I knew I wasn’t going to be able ride again for a long time because it’s difficult to get out there. Regardless, I’m hoping the next time I visit Six Flags Magic Mountain, Viper will still be standing tall at the park!

[@coastertime8653]

I’m riding viper tomorrow i used to think it was ok but then i rode it in the back and it was insane

[@ExAstrisScientia]

Living fairly close to magic mountain I have ridden Viper countless times since I was tall enough to do so. This ride is as rough as people describe it or more. That is exactly why it’s one of the best for some like me, and the worst for others. It completely depends on how you embrace and prepare for the way the ride throws you around. If you know the layout and brace yourself against the oncoming forces you will rarely hit the shoulder restraints and Viper will be an absolute beast of intensity unspoiled by pain. I got to ride it 5 times in a row once, with almost no stop in the station, and I was completely fine by the end. If you’re unfamiliar with Viper and especially a new rider, I can definitely understand the dislike of this ride. Even one ride will definitely cause ear pain, and possibly a headache. For this reason I would definitely agree with the idea of possibly putting this as a double black diamond, as you not only need to enjoy and understand the roughness, but also have knowledge of the track layout to truly get the best experience possible.

[@diveloopthrills7613]

I love Viper. It’s an amazing and smooth ride with some awesome inversions and some awesome forces. I adore this thing and I can’t wait to re ride it sometime soon.

[@felixcortes1685]

The landscape on this ride is absolutely beautiful. It’s an amazing layout… they just need comfortable trains. If they took away those head crushing over the restraint bars and made the seats comfortable, this ride would never get bad reviews

[@TheREALTripleT]

This was my first roller coaster many years ago. I loved it since. I once rode it 5 times in a row(without getting out of my seat). seems like you found a day where the line was crazy normally its not like that.

[@jamesrauff]

Great review ! So glad you did an in depth dive into this serpent 🐍. I love this ride . Have that being said I understand peoples issues with this ride but it can’t always be out with the old in with the new. Truly as you mentioned in the beginning of the video this ride is the only one left of its kind with shock wave and great American scream machine gone. And I grew up with great American scream machine great adventure was my home park growing up and boy oh boy did that ride get amazingly rough. So if you think this ride is rough GASM would be considered beyond torture then. Viper feels like an old ride but in a good way not painful. Rides arnt always gloss smooth, they let you know they are there and where they have been. And I love that about viper. It’s one of the classic arrow rides at the park and I really think magic mountain hands down has the best collection of arrow rides . And if you can’t appreciate arrow rides then you have no sense of history and appreciation of who laid the track work to where we are now for coasters( pun intended) . Im glad this ride is here. I love it it’s not the best of anything or amazing but it’s a classic and should never be talked about as a waste of a great plot in the park. I’m not very tall and what bothers me about the seating is the very odd back arch the seats give. It’s like a bulge in the seat arching your mid back . It’s not the best but it’s old I get it. I like the history and character this ride brings along with its intensity . I get it if it’s not your cup of tea, there are plenty of other teas in the park to sip on . So don’t hate on viper . The logo I also love and reminds me of the Togo viper I rode growing up at great adventure ! Snake on viper !!

[@tbx59]

Still one of the best rides in the park 30 some years later.

[@roadtripnerd2432]

It's iconic they put X2 right next to Viper, since both were built by Arrow Dynamics and occupy the far left side of the park

[@NRGFLOGaming]

I've always wanted to ride this coaster ever since I saw it on that old VHS roller coaster tape "Here Comes A Roller Coaster!" in 1994. My home park is Six Flags Great America in Gurnee, IL. I remember riding Viper's sister, Shockwave many times when it was around (RIP). I've done all roller coasters at SFGAm, and I even did all the great roller coasters at Cedar Point in Sandusky, Ohio in 2018!!!! If I ever get a chance to visit SFMM then Viper will be the first thing I hit!!! I want a great intense coaster to start my day!!! :)

[@GavHern]

i really wish i could enjoy these arrow loopers but I'm a tall guy with back problems so they've never been enjoyable for me... Im forced to slouch in these things which just makes me dying to get off after the first drop. I'd love for the remaining arrows to get some new restraints/ trains if parks are looking to keep them around for their full lifespan.

[@ParksBros]

Thankfully I’m just below the threshold, so I don’t have to slouch, but new otsr’s would definitely be more accommodating!

[@tl1024]

It's a little "rough & gruff", and it's seats let you know it's old, but it offers a great bumpy thrill that's awesome because it's lines are shorter than some others. We took it several times, because it's got the thrills. I don't know what "number" I'd put on it, it's not their top ride, but, if you're OK with a little bumpy ride, it's definitely worth a go, or several. Definitely recommended it. Like he said, easy quick access.. and shorter lines since it's not their "top attraction" any more. It's 70 mph top speed feels like more than that. Yeah, it's old & not as fast as some newer rides, but, do it.

[@BBandCFProductions]

My ears actually bled from riding this when I was younger. My head was a pinball between the restraints and I could not hear out of my left ear for 3 days

[@elankoulax9664]

It is very rare to be running that fast. Most days they have the ride running slower which makes it a ruff and nauseating ride. When it it is running fast and at peak performance, it is a smoother and great ride.

[@supersubzero]

like most socal kids space mountain and big thunder mountain were the standard at that point till 1990 I was 8 my sister was 10 the family went to the mountain over Disney and the first ride we rode was viper and we have never looked back.

[@michh3078]

Viper isn’t that bad but it’s really bumpy, it depends on what row you get on. first time I got on it, it was fine but the second time it was really bumpy and I hit my head multiple times, side to side. It left my head hurting for a while but it didnt bother me that much. It’s a good ride but just try to keep ur head a still as you can

[@JenRivas13]

I love Viper!! I’m tall enough to clear the restraints, so they don’t bother me. The front is definitely my favorite on this one.

[@diveloopthrills7613]

I love Viper too. It’s an amazing ride. I’m also tall enough to clear the restraints and it’s a remarkably smooth ride with some awesome positives and some amazing inversions

[@ThemeParkDaze]

the last time I rode it (2019) I was surprised at how smooth it was, considering it's an arrow looper. I actually enjoyed it. I'm 6'3 and barely fit in the seat, but my ride was much better than I was anticipating.

[@devinhawks5584]

This is my dad’s favorite coaster of all time and he is the reason why I love arrow coasters and why I love this ride

[@ParksBros]

That’s awesome!

[@macrider7able]

Viper was in the park much earlier than Batman.... I prefer the title pretzel maneuver over bat wing. Bat wing sounds so stale. I remember when this ride was born..... We always referred to it a pretzel maneuver. Viper is a reliable thrill.

[@michaelcrawford8933]

I'd love viper to receive new trains without the otsr!

[@ComposerConductor]

Do you think the trains and restraints will be replaced at some point on Viper?

[@chevyeye8663]

Something interesting that happened today is that Viper Valleyd before the double corkscrews

[@dougronald561]

It looks a lot like the Great American Scream Machine, which used to be at Great Adventure in New Jersey from 1989-2010.

[@JOE40341]

This is low key the best ride at the park. it's insane

[@steveh8829]

I rode this for my first time this year and ended up straining my neck somehow. I believe it was the first loop and I was possibly leaning forward. I don't really know but I will be going for a re-ride later this month. Any suggestion on not jacking my neck? I am 6 foot 3. I can deal with pain and discomfort, but this was the worst coaster I have ever been on in comparison to body pains.

[@redpandaz5146]

This year it was much rougher than in previous years IMO

[@michaelbianco32]

I rode this 70 times this year, and I don't have any experience with how it ran in previous years. My only recommendations are to hold on tight, and ALWAYS keep your head firmly pressed back during the main three loops. The shaping of them is not great, and will force your head down or back into the headrest hard, depending on how forward you're holding yourself. The first drop, I would say head forward, though the cars are jostling side-to-side enough that it'll be somewhat unpleasant for a second at the base of the drop no matter what. Head forward again right before the trims after the first loop (and then bring your head back during that turn around), and then after the MCBR just head forward a bit and hold yourself as stable as possible to counteract the main transitional bumps, particularly the exit of the batwing, entrance to the corkscrews, and final s-drop under the lift.

[@rexnewcombe8337]

Loved the Viper the first time I rode the front, also love gold rusher

[@edzamora9135]

I was here yesterday Friday with a empty park, hate this ride. Gave me a headache right after I got of. What happen to viper.

[@Johnnyiswhere]

Nothing. It’s an old Arrow coaster lol

[@kingsdrive64]

I was at magic mountain yesterday, worst coaster I've ever ridden my whole head was red after I rode it the over the shoulder restraints destroyed me. First and last time riding

[@j.j.theawesome4009]

Just got off viper and cried because of the pain of the headbanging. I am almost 5-3 and a half, so head and restraints were sandwhiching my ears

[@benjaminveksler3793]

Seaworld gotta learn to put bins on their rides tho

[@ChannelMan434]

Never have I ever ridden an Arrow coaster I didn’t love, I have such a soft sport for the jank, and I really hope I can make it to magic mountain while viper still exists

[@WillKalili]

I love Viper for its intensity but if it were ever replaced I'd hope they put a Mack hyper with inversions. The lift would have to be extra steep but the height could work, especially given Mack's ability to fit large rides in small spaces.

[@stevengibeault4959]

Love your reviews. I love viper. Husband despises it.

[@ecchen1]

I don't think it's rough at all and I don't understand the head banging.. Keep your head back and it's great.

[@lunatic7651]

Is it just me or did this ride bump ur head around like crazy to the point where it hurts

[@RockyandTuck]

It’s on my bucket list!

[@supersubzero]

I didnt know people hated Viper till I started going on Roller Coaster forums in the late 90s. prior to that I thought everyone loved viper like my sister and I did.

[@vickiehurt2665]

My tradition when I go to MM is Revolution first, then Viper ever since 2005!

[@chrisf1271]

They need to redo Viper like the arrow they redid in Europe. Screw a new experience, just perfect this one!

[@Coasters_cut]

My secret to riding more aggressive arrows is stapling myself so then my head can’t move and hit anything

[@LyfeWithJoy]

Can we talk about how if you’re in the front on the loops it feels like the back of the train right on top of you when exiting out of the loops 🤣

[@thomasstevenson3778]

This was my first adult roller coaster...

[@JuiceWRLD_XXXTENTACION_FOREVER]

Your height does not matter if you find viper very ruff next time trust me control your head on every part you get upside down it will be much better i first hated viper and now i love it just control your head

[@cucamongadoug9277]

I LOVE Viper, but it bangs your ears against the restraints.

[@Lucky_9705]

I don’t find this ride to be nearly as rough as some others do.

[@phxlightz9150]

Thank you

[@mark2thed281]

I just greyout after 3rd loop into the Midcourse every.....dang...time

[@boltgaming248]

that's shockwave levels of g's lol

[@brucewayne1894]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE VIPER! It's very underrated. So many people bitching and moaning about the roughness, bunch of softees! I find it very enjoyable and it brings back lots of memories, since the ride is just as old as I am! 😆 It's very sad that many crybabies have given up on this awesome piece of machinery, and as a result it may well lead to it's demise. I make sure to ride it more than once every time I visit the park (once rode it 7 times) I think Six Flags should give it a second lease at life, maybe rework it a bit to make it more suitable for all these crybabies, while keeping the train design intact which looks really classic and awesome in my opinion. Hopefully, Viper lives a lot longer!

[@boltgaming248]

most underrated arrow looper according to airtime thrills

[@askjeevescosby2928]

This ride deserves a retrack and new trains. Maybe a retheme. Call it 90s the grunge coaster. Have on ride audio of 90s grunge music playing re paint it black give it that grunge look. Play old 90s commercials in the que from their sponsors along with grunge music videos.

[@boltgaming248]

maybe the retheme can ruin the ride like what epcot did to test track in 2012 but definitly call vekoma for the retrack like what they did to python

[@askjeevescosby2928]

@The bolt I think python was done by another company. It uses some weird track with circular cross ties. But vekoma did retrack the great nor Easter and its suppose to be glass smooth now. And it's a slc 😆

[@darreldash]

I rode this and I’ve had a headache for hours now lmao

[@fastpenguin]

new restraints would fix 80% of vipers problems

[@delliott7]

I'm in a toxic relationship with viper, it hurts but I still love it!

[@jaya1000]

Could use new paint

[@davefroman4700]

New track and newer trains with better restraints would be great, but honestly? Its not worth it. And its sitting on prime real estate.

[@MrSpazOhYeah]

Watching at 1.5x speed and it sounds normal lol. You talk in slow motion sometimes ha

[@Abcdefgx-u9g]

Viper top 3 in park. Fight me