Why Israel Is Falling into a Trap in Gaza - VisualPolitik EN

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For the first time since the war between Hamas and Israel broke out on October 7, the United States has made it clear that it is willing to withdraw its support for the Jewish state by halting the shipment of weapons if things get further out of control in the Gaza Strip. And the question is, what now? What is Israel aiming for with the assault on Rafah? Why does it refuse to accept a ceasefire? In this video, we will tell you all the details.
#Israel #Palestine #Gaza

[@dimasterin7439]

At the time this video came out, Rafah is half empty

[@ferykaryadijaya2133]

VisualPolitik thought Israel's speed is the same as the Americans LOL

[@malcire]

@ferykaryadijaya2133 oh the US has emptied out cities to. They did it a few times in Iraq. Not everyone left, obviously. But people who could mostly did it because no one particularly wants to be in a war zone.

[@Flunko97]

@@malcireirrelevant as the us has stated many times it’s going to take a very long time. Most of them have been evacuated in less than a week. The us should not be able to give advice regarding war when they themselves are not in the same level as Israel and have failed times again and again. Let the data do the talking.

[@malcire]

@Flunko97 I think the US specifically said evacuating them to someplace with the needed supplies and infrastructure would take a long time (things like sufficient shelter, food, water, etc). Which to my knowledge (I could be wrong) is not what Israel did. And while the US is by no means perfect at military execution. It gets to seriously say what it wants because Israel is its client state. So, not much for Israel to do other than whine or ignore it.

[@Flunko97]

@@malcire if the us really cared, they would’ve made Egypt accept them as refugees as by law Egypt has to. If you wanna waste your time moving into a realm where The us has a right to say dumb shit, congrats mate, you’re on your own. Israel is not a client state of the us, Israel is a sovereign state. I know, it’s hard to swallow.

[@egg174]

The struggle israel

[@ALROD]

I see what you did there

[@ygr4943]

FREE the World from the EVIL WEST

[@IB4UUB4ME]

The Evil is in the 4 corners of the world, that’s why the 4 angels holding back Jehovahs wrath are seen at the 4 corners. 4 denotes perfect symmetry, 4 squareness, all encompassing perfection.And when released there is. I where that won’t be affected, it will cover the whole Earth.

[@constantineceasar]

​@@ygr4943 freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to create one's own wealth or the oppression of woman, persecution of religious and ethic minorities, and no human rights. Tough choice. 🤔

[@MosheBenChaim]

@@ygr4943 😂😂😂 Numbnut

[@Jonathan2004-]

The video is severly outdated, over 950,000 people have fled Rafah, not 100,000

[@gotlieb9388]

But this already went down and you were wrong about all your speculations…

[@amitbechor7575]

I have a feeling that's going to age badly

[@giants8821]

What?

[@Adam-wg2rf]

in which way ?

[@cliffdweller990]

@@Adam-wg2rf Israel started Rafah invasion days ago

[@Adam-wg2rf]

@@cliffdweller990 oh in that way, sorry i just didn't understand in which way he meant that for you know theres a lot of ways it could age badly

[@aSSGoblin1488]

maybe dont attack israel in first place lol

[@shohamgodel]

This is not a serious sentence "Netanyahu doesn't seem to care about anything at all"

[@Flunko97]

I used to like visualpolitik as they seemed genuine but now even they put out these statements, statements that could not be further from the truth.

[@sebastianr1204]

@@Flunko97That isn’t true in this video? It’s very accurate!

[@xdman20005]

He cares about one thing, and one thing only: His political life. This is why the war is raging, he was on his way out, now he has a causus belli and won't back down. He is evil to the core.

[@danielhan4537]

Like the US in Afghanistan, there is no winning, just how much can you loose

[@sshender3773]

I very flawed analogy.

[@54032Zepol]

Lol it's not taking twenty years

[@ygr4943]

FREE the World from the EVIL WEST

[@giants8821]

Except in Afghanistan the taliban ran across the border to hide in Pakistan every winter and taking rafah is literally the only way to prevent the same situation from developing

[@constantineceasar]

​@@ygr4943please explain why

[@crow22zero]

The way you pronounce Rafah is irritating lol

[@sandytatham3592]

I agree. It’s very irritating!!!

[@alexk8599]

I'd prefer if the narrator had absolutely any idea what they were talking about. The pronunciation suggests that he hasn't seen a single piece of news on Rafah.

[@dandeboi]

Haan u-kneez

[@doujinflip]

If you think that’s bad, wait til you hear how they pronounce Chinese and Korean names

[@sshender3773]

You are contradicting yourself. a 1:2 militant:civilian ratio is actually unheard of given the complexity of the terrain. I am not aware of a better track record of any other military in urban asymmetrical warfare, let alone with such an underground component. So to claim that this kind of ratio is unacceptable is tantamount to surrendering by admitting that your adversary's tactics make them immune to harm, and I would suggest is sheer madness. By this logic, one cannot fight against irregulars who embed themselves among civilians at all, which is suicidal and sends the message that using your own people as human shields pays off. So much for incentives.

[@baronbrummbar8691]

exactly in Syria under similar condition the ration was always between 1:10 and 1:20

[@africarising5239]

And so to prevent all the eloquently bizarre claims you folks keep making, simply give them back all the lands you’ve been stealing. How is that hard to understand? Israel will be kicked out of stolen lands, just as France is being kicked out of stolen lands in Africa and New Caledonia.

[@ComradeLibertarian]

that's the same ratio Hamas had on October 7th, do they also have a better track record than any other military

[@baronbrummbar8691]

@@ComradeLibertarian you do know that unlike all the Militarys hamas could have just attacked military basis and ther would have been 0 civilian casualties hamas made the choice to kill as many civiliance as possible and the IDF made sacrifices to stop them

[@khairulhelmihashim2510]

to separate irregulars from civilians, you have to won the civilians heart first. something Israel and West failed to do in decades and continue blaming the rise of militancy.

[@drhilm]

You excel at analyzing situations in a balanced and accurate manner, unlike most of the world's media.

[@BaybieK]

You need to watch Al Jazeera.

[@constantineceasar]

​@@BaybieKal Jazeera shouldn't be trusted since it's state controlled media. Try NTD, Skype news, or WION.

[@rajatbisht9714]

Yeap official mouthpiece of al Qaeda & owned by al Thani royal family of Qatar. Will never speak a single word about the death of 100 s of migrants worker building stadium & abuse they faced.

[@m0o0n0i0r]

i wish he stated that Hamas was the elected government in Gaza, then the important fact is that an elected government invaded israel and comitted crimes on the 7th of oct.

[@malcire]

​@@m0o0n0i0rI mean were elected in 05 (no elections since the Gaza Civil war) and had waning support. So, it's fairly questionable what real mandate they have.

[@giants8821]

Its very easy to criticize, yet no one is even pretending to offer any kind of viable alternative. So many armchair generals with nothing to lose themselves not to mentional all those that arent even really paying attention to the reality of the situation

[@ygr4943]

That's because of the USA FREE the World from the EVIL WEST

[@13bader]

Pussio

[@malcire]

The viable alternative would have been for the US to aid the PA in the Civil War in Gaza (like Bush wanted to (Israel helping would have arguably further bolstered Hamas' support)) while conditioning aid to reforms, elections, and legal standards while moving towards 2 states. This was likely going to be inevitable after Hamas gained control of Gaza. At the level of October 7th is questionable (Israel dropped the ball on maintaining border equipment and was quite slow to respond). And the following reprisal was likely to bolster Hamas support (they went from around 24% support in Gaza and single digits in the West Bank/ East Jerusalem to what is presented in the video). But a sustainable peace would likely require years of peace keeping by third party nations. And the international community basically forcing both sides to eat shit sandwiches and make nice.

[@danielch6662]

Yesterday, I heard a very old survivor of the Holocaust saying he wanted a single unified country for every regardless of ethnicity or religion.

[@Teutathis]

Folke Bernadotte wanted to enforce the borders drawn by the UN with UN troops. Feel free to look up who murdered him on your own.

[@skiguru99]

Never heard that pronunciation of Rafah

[@eifelitorn]

Yeah, I've heard the same pronunciation in my local news (Estonia), not sure where it comes from..

[@archockencanto1645]

​It comes from Arabic... you know, the language that's spoken in Palestine where this city is? For some reason people seem to think the other angilcized pronunciation is the correct one. ​@@eifelitorn

[@eifelitorn]

@@archockencanto1645 If you look at the Arabic writing of Rafah (رفح )you can see that the last letter is "h" not "a", so you shouldn't pronounce the "a" so long as he did in this video, but stop with the hard "h".

[@fahadali-kk2bs]

this gentleman clocks start ticking on 7th of Oct. Shameful

[@xStickStockx]

Posted 11 hours ago. The operation has begun a week ago, as everyone already saw an Israeli tank take down the "I Love Hasa" sign. Around 1 million people have been moved already and tunnels crossing to Egypt have already been found. You're kinda late to the party here :') P.S The "Anti Netanyahu" Protest that have been raging since 2010 are representing the voice of the people of Israel the same way the "Pro Hamastinian" Protests represent the people of the West (Including Japan).

[@homiepiggy]

no as a israeli i can confirm the same people who protest against netanyahu are the same people you got in the west.. a bunch of spoiled middle class people with nothing better to do unfortunately nethanyahu is a left wing disguised as a right wing he should have never allowed aid going into to gaza.

[@Camis419]

Thank you so much for your awesome content. I always felt that this war was complex and I felt lost following the news, but you make it easier to understand.

[@ugotal2]

Thanks

[@atakancolak8411]

You talk about international pressure but minimize your mention of the humanitarian crisis. Rafah has been closed, no aid going through. Shame.

[@dragosstanciu9866]

Who will rebuild Gaza? Who will pay for it?

[@McFish-ts5jj]

Way should anyone want to rebuild the homes of terrorists?

[@notmyhandle1223]

US and EU, arab countries won't pay a dime.

[@baronbrummbar8691]

that region is already the by far biggest receptor of humanitarian aid .......... perhabs that aid will go into rebuilding it instead of weaponry

[@54032Zepol]

Lol there's not gonna be another Gaza, just the worlds largest parking lot

[@ygr4943]

FREE the World from the EVIL WEST

[@DK6Marius]

Critical to note Israel was NOT party to the Egyptian/Katari peace talks.

[@shahafanglister5360]

Rafah is also on the border with Egypt so aswell as bringing supplies to civilians it also allows Hamas to smuggle weapons through tunnels and the crossing

[@GoldBl4d3]

I love how a youtuber thinks they have a better understanding of the politics and conflict than the governments involved.

[@kenhart8771]

If you believe in Governments then you most have been daydreaming in your history lessons.

[@hellenmoreira9991]

He definitely does

[@alonhaviv6755]

Wait, you forgot to mention that in Rafah city there are tunnels leading to Egypt that Hamas used to smuggle most of its weapons, and that Israel believes at least some of the hostages are there. In addition, if Israel ends up controlling both the Philadelphi corridor (the border with Egypt) and the Be'eri corridor (separates the Gaza city in the north from the rest of the strip), Israel effectively takes over the 2 most strategically important assets in the strip. It could be a great bargaining card for the hostages, or a way to finish the war with a victory even if Hamas survives (via permanent control over the corridors and by extension the Gaza city).

[@malcire]

Has any proof of those tunnels into Egypt been shown? Wouldn't be super surprising (given the groups Egypt is trying to suppress are around that area and were allied with Hamas), but I haven't seen any reports showing them.

[@danielch6662]

Why are there tunnels? Why can't they just get supplies via Egypt?

[@aigloss537]

​@@danielch6662because egypt doesn't support Palestinians nor Hamas.

[@alonhaviv6755]

@@danielch6662 supplies the get freely all the time. Weapons however, they need to smuggle in. And Egypt knew but didn't care.

[@user-tj9xu8tl9n]

Thanks!

[@94sadico]

total annihilation? I think I heard a painter talk about that...

[@soss0268]

Only comment with wisdom on this bias channel forget western media and watch Al Jazeera

[@BarefootDani]

Only he talked about innocent people, and not murderes, rap*sts, and the sickest people alive

[@alonhaviv6755]

Churchill was indeed a painter in his last years, and he too talked about annihilation of the Nazi regime. Thank you for the analogy! 🙂

[@94sadico]

@@alonhaviv6755 yeah, no, I wasn't talking about churchil buddy, but whatever lmao, he was a drunk tyrant anyway , he wouldn't have cared about killing children just as the ilegitimate israeli state doesn't.

[@arturferrao7353]

@@BarefootDani "Only he talked about innocent people, " So it's accurate to this situation.

[@setoki2838]

The amount of people who seem like they write comments under such videos with tears in their eyes is crazy to me. This whole thing is a spiral of violence fueled by all sides. It was fuled by HAMAS aggression, Isrealian and general inaction of the west for years about the seriousness of the gaza situation. No one wanted to look for a solution, that would actually solve the situation, so all sides just waited for disaster to happen.

[@MrWorshipMe]

A million Gazans already left Rafah. It's no longer so densely populated.

[@objektifgalatasaraylinpcdegil]

1,5 milions people live in rafah

[@MrWorshipMe]

@@objektifgalatasaraylinpcdegil not anymore.

[@objektifgalatasaraylinpcdegil]

@@MrWorshipMe Unfortunately😓😓😞

[@MrWorshipMe]

@@objektifgalatasaraylinpcdegil would you have preferred them to remain and serve as a human shield for Hamas?

[@ciaranbrk]

@@MrWorshipMethere is nowhere for them to go?

[@mrmr446]

There would be no need for the pier that has just been built if aid weren't being blocked from entering. Netanyahus plan would mean permanent occupation of Gaza which was deemed militarily unfeasible years ago and unacceptable to Gantz. That Hamas isn't capable of carrying out threats seems relevant and that threat is contradicted by ceasefire offers. the comparison with Nazis is ludicrous and an astonishing choice of message that smacks of desperation. Defining victory as completely eliminating an opponent means the opponent only has to survive to claim victory, historically this kind of conflict has no military solution.

[@John-fw2bp]

War is terrible 😢

[@Spartan117FS]

Israel doesn't mess around, when they say that they will do something - they will take it to the end and have history to back this up.

[@aleshandsome3705]

Because Hamas is fighting a guerilla war like Vietnam. Firepower is irrelevant. "The conventional army loses if it does not win. The guerrilla wins if he does not lose" ‐Henry Kissinger

[@jeffreybartlett4899]

Rafah, aid IN or Hamas voters OUT?

[@shahafanglister5360]

Israel does not control most of Gaza. The whole southern half of Gaza's coast hasnt had any fighting

[@atolz1352]

Rafarrrh... That pronunciation

[@lovepeople951]

Yep

[@soup100]

Hamas are terrorists? Then WTF are the IDF? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@pd1648]

Wondering who is financing this shit

[@xenon6947]

US gave 26 billion dollars to Israel.

[@carlcramer9269]

Its weird how Hamas says that 30 to 50 Palestinians have the same worth as a single Israeli.

[@DavidHalko]

Fascism: Palestinian Supremacy

[@khairulhelmihashim2510]

because Israel can casually detain Palestinian people under slightest security excuse.

[@edi9892]

Because they are willing to sacrifice their own people...

[@BarefootDani]

​@khairulhelmihashim2510 "slightest security excuses". I was a border police officer in Jerusalem and I can tell you, what you call slight issue usually means someone was murdered, badly injured, or there was an attempt

[@Max11B]

Maybe 100

[@Josh-oj9mm]

11:39 are these gazan Palestinians or is this including the West Bank? I remember seeing another poll where only 30% had faith in Hamas as the gazan government.

[@mishabelie]

From the river to the sea Rafah will be free I guess lol

[@annknox3798]

I thank God for you Netanyahu ❤️

[@MineCartable]

It's easy to chastise Israel when your country doesn't have to worry about invasion. It's easy to chastise them when they don't take a symbolic peace. The hard part is understanding that this is just a continuation of generations long conflict, and that both sides are making tough choices in the hopes that their country won't be gone at the end of it.

[@sherlockwho5714]

Please explain that to the West Bank and those Israeli settlers

[@Theobserver6897]

@@sherlockwho5714you lose 3 wars of aggression you lose land

[@sherlockwho5714]

@@Theobserver6897 If you anger your neighbors don't be surprised if they push back and don't be surprised when your friends decide to stay out of it. I actually do support Israel existence but that's not an excuse to go around being an ahole to everyone else. In my opinion the US and Europe should let Israel go it alone. No more weapons no more money. I think here in the US that 4 billion we give them every year could go to countries that actually need it like Ukraine. Of course without the threat of the US military how fast do you think Iran and others would jump in the direction of Israel? Because honestly I'm tired of protecting a government who abuse that protection to commit war crimes.

[@MineCartable]

@@sherlockwho5714 If you declare a war, you don't get any say over what happens to you afterwards if you lose. Israel's neighbors were always angry, and hostile towards them since their founding. Which is why there's even a justification for them to be an asshole to begin with. Iran is already doing everything it can to kill Israel, and everyone they support has the express goal of destroying Israel written into their motto. Reasonably speaking nothing changes. Just like how even if every other country in the world doesn't support Israel's occupation, no one does anything because no one really cares enough to change their life over it.

[@meatrealwishes]

Invasion and destabilization worries are regular in reactionary middle east. Will not go away even if there is peace between palestinians and israelis. Even the wealthiest arabs in regions below have the anxiety. Middle east isnt good for mental health.

[@abdullaalmaskari]

It is strategic for US to leave now after take 98 percent of Palestine a moral excuse to leave the shit show.

[@MAGRAKU]

Palestinians deserves dignity. This chain is VERY biased

[@edi9892]

It's almost 20 years since I talked to an Israeli who shamelessly advocated her solution to the conflict and I admit that it did make sense, but was utterly immoral. She basically said that they need to annihilate them before they get a chance to do it to Israel....

[@sherlockwho5714]

I see they learned the wrong lesson from the horror committed against Jewish people and other groups during WW2.

[@M-tl4xt]

@@sherlockwho5714 they learnt the right lesson, you mean. In WW2, the allies insisted on a full unconditional surrender because after WW1 the negotiated surrender of germany allowed for the borth of the stab in the back myth and the rise of moustache-man. the fact that the terroristinians still support Hamas and their crimes and are unable to see how this is a disaster of their own making, really shows you that no conditional surrender can be conceded to these modern day nazis.

[@sherlockwho5714]

@@M-tl4xt terms of surrender after WW1 Loss of territory Germany surrendered about 10% of its prewar European territory, including its colonies in Africa and Asia Disarmament The German military was restricted to 100,000 men, and the German navy was limited to six battleships, no submarines, and six light cruisers, 12 destroyers, and 12 torpedo boats Economic resources Germany was forced to pay 20 billion gold marks in reparations, and France was allowed to exploit the Saarland's economic resources until 1935 Responsibility for the war Germany was required to admit responsibility for the war, and the war guilt clause, Article 231, required Germany to pay reparations to the Allied countries

[@sherlockwho5714]

​@@M-tl4xtseems like my comments have disappeared. So history lesson repeated Loss of territory Germany surrendered about 10% of its prewar European territory, including its colonies in Africa and Asia Disarmament The German military was restricted to 100,000 men, and the German navy was limited to six battleships, no submarines, and six light cruisers, 12 destroyers, and 12 torpedo boats Economic resources Germany was forced to pay 20 billion gold marks in reparations, and France was allowed to exploit the Saarland's economic resources until 1935 Responsibility for the war Germany was required to admit responsibility for the war, and the war guilt clause, Article 231, required Germany to pay reparations to the Allied countries

[@sherlockwho5714]

@@M-tl4xt so apparently I can't even post the terms of surrender after WW1 So you will need to look it up

[@evsal8087]

I find it hilarious that Netanyahu has declared that Hamas is ISIS (or Daesh in his words) and will be destroyed, when Israel couldn't be bothered to help fight ISIS when it was running roughshod through the region. So the US and its local partners get to fight ISIS by themselves, but they're all expected to assist Israel to the hilt against Hamas. Quick question: how is Israel a valuable ally again? They didn't help in Iraq (both times), they didn't help in Afghanistan, they didn't help against ISIS, they didn't help in the Syrian Civil War, they didn't help in Lebanon (they made things worse there actually), and they haven't helped in Ukraine, and they're the only country that's ever attacked a US naval vessel with impunity (the USS Liberty says hello). Looks like a mighty one-way "alliance" to me that seems to running purely on "We feel bad for the Jews because of the Holocaust". Yeah was almost 80 years ago, bud. Tell me what truly rational reason today that the US has for backing Israel, because I really don't see it. Even countering Iran is an insipid argument, since most US policy against Iran seems to mostly be focused on protecting Israel (yet another one-sided thread of the partnership).

[@ykwia1]

Always appreciate the objectivity of your videos and none of that genocide bs

[@wwfww]

I lovee netanyahu! We need more people like him!

[@bigtimepimpin666]

Israel can go it alone?? Let them. No more of our weapons or our money

[@sebastianr1204]

I’ll support Israel whatever will come! You can make donations to the IDF and helping them to free Gaza from Hamas-Terror.

[@321-Islam-Unpacked]

50 Tunnel says it all.

[@xenon6947]

Israel had 6 months to dig😂.

[@mikle2129]

4:52 FFS visualpolitik how hard is a Google search on geographic/city names and you would’ve realised the place above Rafah is called *KHAN Yunis* NOT Jan Yunis 🤦‍♂️

[@boyanpenev9822]

The war has already produced a huge win for Hamas - making of their main political opponent Fatah, and any sort-of-moderates, mostly irrelevant. Sadly, the Netanyahu cabinet continuing settlement in the West Bank has tacitly approved this.

[@aleshandsome3705]

Welcome to Vietnam!... Or Afghanistan!

[@user-sq1eb1ff1m]

They are not in a trap people just say anything for views anymore

[@davidbeare730]

If palestinians move to Israeli controled areas, it would make it easier to get aid.

[@ibrahimsuleiman8473]

Like they did in the 48 and 67,how well did that end for them

[@archockencanto1645]

more like it'll be easier for isareli settlers to come take their land 😂

[@annknox3798]

Biden, what has happened to your brain.?

[@ronaldvoigt6761]

Reduce it to rubble.

[@LevNikolayevichMyshkin]

There are probably more Hamas supporters in Gaza now than before October 7.

[@lynxlecher9547]

Yeah, Hamas managed to increase their popularity by sacrificing their own people.

[@alonhaviv6755]

Correction: The ratio of terrorists to civilians killed by Israel is 1:1. For comparison, the US killed in Afghanistan 70,000 people, mostly in the first few months, with a terrorist to civilian ratio of 1:4 !

[@xStickStockx]

Have you forgotten the UN's recalculation? It's 1:0.5. "People" will still complain though~

[@6BfMV2]

70k Afghan and international military personnel and police, 46k civilians (grossly underestimated) and 53K Taliban and other fighters died, based on conservative stats... Plus other 65k+ dead in Pakistan. Based on stats from the US Institute of Peace.

[@MrKrusten]

The ratio of civillians killed to soldiers by Palestinians is 1:0. They only killed civillians

[@dixonpinfold2582]

_Not just the US but dozens of countries _from 5 continents_ were in Afghanistan. Also, the invasion force was UN-mandated. The Security Council voted 15-0 (no abstentions) to authorize it to enter Afghanistan and fight the Taliban. _Russia voted for it. China voted for it._

[@zeyadghanim8271]

How is it 1:1 when 70% of the killed are kids and women lol

[@nadav107]

This is not the definition of apartheid… if you want to spread blood liable on the news go ahead, just be honest about it.

[@user-kc1bx5fi1x]

Keep going Israel!

[@mirisab9825]

It is not a bluff, they gave hostages before this war and during it... the hamas group have proven once and again that they are serious about giving the hostages back.

[@michaelwilcox8187]

How times rafah was said? Who counted?

[@gordoneinstein]

Clunky AI voiceover?

[@patricksharp1063]

Underground

[@mirisab9825]

Is it unacceptable to release hostages from both side? Or is it unacceptable to give the population of gaza freedom, or is it the part of rebuilding (while Israel is the one destroying and starving).

[@Forza8968]

Mom

[@jstdr4774]

Let the other Arab states accept Arab refugees. But wait… they don’t. You should ask why not. Egypt is a big country and the Gulf states are very rich.

[@arslanrauf3641]

please look at stats my dear before commenting. Please also stop educating yourself from WhatsApp

[@jstdr4774]

I don’t use WhatsApp. I know the truth. Try it sometime yourself. You might like it.

[@Explorebeyond1]

Shame on USA and Izrael

[@mohdnasrullah673]

Don't forget the history

[@arslanrauf3641]

Alright. so killing 1200 is terrorism but killing 30,000+ is just collateral damage. To whom does this sounds neutral?

[@sylvainzerbib7622]

Thanks a lot

[@juancarlosbarientos3276]

“Jerusalem’s idea?” You said? most of the world is in agreement, the officially recognized capital of the State of Israel is Tel Aviv, and not Jerusalem which is partly occupied by them illegally according to the United Nations and its also acknowledged as the capital of the Palestinian Territories (under occupation as well).

[@michaelpassick7539]

“We Jews have a secret weapon in our struggle with the Arabs - We have no place to go.” Golda Meir

[@samer9277]

Golda was a master in PR one of the smartest people to ever live and her specality was creating catchy phrases that are total bullshit lol really. she had several houses on planet earth before and after 1948.

[@imranmalihabad]

Ur secret weapons is garqand tree...

[@michaelpassick7539]

@@imranmalihabad garqand?

[@old_grey_cat]

Gee, and they put the Palestinians in the same position. Wise?

[@lynxlecher9547]

@@old_grey_cat Must be something wrong with the Palestinians if none of the other Muslim countries wanted them.

[@rickyeddie7781]

Your reporting is out if touch based on assumptions

[@elguerojusticiero]

Its rafah, not rafAHA

[@mussajavdan8203]

Well you are far behind .

[@paulmaguire6045]

KZbin censorship bastards 😤

[@TheUltimateOpportunist]

It's been out of control since October

[@sherlockwho5714]

This explains why my posts have disappeared despite not saying anything against the Jewish people

[@TheUltimateOpportunist]

@@sherlockwho5714 Even criticising Israhell can get you in trouble.

[@danielboro2000]

​@@TheUltimateOpportunist This show haw littel expireance you have whit disapiring posts

[@TheUltimateOpportunist]

@@danielboro2000 well no sh*t. It never used to happen to me.

[@vitoanania6042]

up

[@aryscharovsky9419]

We, Israelis, never wanted war. 5 times a 2 state solution was offered, and 5 times it was rejected. 6 times we were attacked with the explicit intent of eradicating us, and 6 times we won and even gave back land that came to our control as a consequence. No more half measures, hamas will never rise again, with or without the support of the world that somehow wants us to negotiate with those that raped our daughters.

[@duanjetishi4615]

Bro are you crazy ?

[@dymanke5338]

Your are so right. i was in israel and spoke to muslims in tel aviv,haifa, jerusalem, beer sheva. Isreal it is a good country, multicultural, fair. But the Palestinians from gaza i meet are the opposite: full of hatred and aggression. In my weeks in the country there were 3 attacks by Palestinians shooting civilians on markets, shops. I quick learned Palestinians hate life and hate the world. Isreal must win. It is importand for the world

[@jmarcospatricio6200]

I'm pretty sure he's just being factual ​@@duanjetishi4615

[@freddytang2128]

It is so ironic that hamas was once democratically elected. A little awkward when Americans keep saying democratization is always good. As long as the people elect pro western governments.

[@rft9776]

Also another fact: half of gaza is under 18 and the last election was in 2006.

[@micaeloliveira2727]

Never forget Palestine is not a country 😅😅😅 when a group of criminals elect a leader is called organized crime

[@micaeloliveira2727]

​@@rft9776that's a tragedy 😔 all contaminated with hate 😠😡 and peace will never be achieved. Wish peace 🕊️🕊️ and harmony to them

[@giants8821]

Yeah this is a point that's too frequently overlooked. Same reason the arab spring never stood a chance

[@54032Zepol]

And the last election was when?

[@Cross-xm2fr]

Exactly what hamas wants

[@micheljay8822]

They don’t want any of this

[@lynxlecher9547]

@@micheljay8822 Yes they do. They wanted to kill of their own people. They knew Israel would retaliate.

[@hopegaming5710]

Then y 7 oct ​@@micheljay8822

[@rotojakku]

2-1 civilian to combatant rate is the lowest seen in any war pretty much ever what the actual fuck are you talking about?

[@306316]

This whole war practically is the same as when the Japanese bombed the US in pearl harbour. Only difference is that the 2 belligerents in WW2 were of comparable similar naval strength at the start of the war. While in this case Israel was of a far superior military position. In Japan's case their populations had fully supported the war efforts of their governments and the US had to constantly firebombed entire cities and nuked 2 of them before any surrender was on the table. In Palestine it's pretty much following the same trend, cities levelled and occupied, they're down to their last hold out at the end of the strip. Even then Hammas is still receiving large scale support from the population and refusing to surrender unconditionally. If Palestine wasn't Muslim and Israel wasn't Jewish, no one would care enough about this war for it to last this long.

[@lagofala]

Not true. There was an anti war contingent in Japan but they got drowned out. The militarists took power in the 1930s, there were lots of political assassinations at the time.

[@konstantinossfoungaris8474]

@@lagofala well, why do you think you're not seeing any anti-war contigent in Palestine? Maybe Hamas has something to do with it

[@lagofala]

@@konstantinossfoungaris8474 not disputing that. Just disputing that japan's population was pro war.

[@user-sg6ce3tx7s]

Warning...People mught want to move away from Benjamin Netyahu,Joe Biden,Donald Trump

[@rotemyagel4683]

short answer. No. Long answer fn. We are going all the way. Samson choice

[@chazcmeekins83]

17:00 these are not factions they are independent political parties that are obviously in coalition with the Likud party the worst among them being Otzuma Yehudit which roughly translates to "Jewish Power" why would anyone take Netanyahu at his word with this being a prevailing fact? Hamas should no longer rule in Gaza clearly but the conditions every time from the average Palestinian has not changed. The State of Israel isn't going anywhere obviously but the conditions of this Non-Sovreignty that has existed since the 67' War cannot continue to be the status quo it is untenable to say the least. The fact that no treaty in the past referring to the conflicts that happened in the past 57 years dont specifically mention the sovereignty of a Palestinian State has always been at the crutch of this issue and as far as I can tell the Israelis will never abide to do so & never were willing to in the first place.

[@giants8821]

The question is, what is the actual alternative?

[@CultureCrossed64]

If by "never" you mean since late 1948, yeah, probably. It wasn't the Jewish people that said no back then, though 🤷‍♂️ when you say no to a deal because you think you'll get a better one, you have no guarantee of ever getting the original deal again.

[@chazcmeekins83]

@CultureCrossed64 that's the problem isn't it? Seeing shit like this in business terms instead of ways that someone's life gets fucked up and lose their home. Nobody talks about how the average Arabs that lived In Palestine didn't own the land that was sold the Zionist organizations.

[@chazcmeekins83]

Nobody mentions how basically in his private diary the Founding father of Israel Ben-Gurion says that (Im being reductive here) "Eventually the Arabs will have to go away sooner or later". I'm paraphrasing but that was the gist of it & what this means is that the entire time it wasn't just about "Security for the Jewish people" it also was permissing anyway & anything that Israel would do to create an Apartheid state over the Palestinians. If I was in their shoes I be bitter as hell too. The British came in and said it's fine for the Non-Yishuv Jews to come in and basically both buy and takeover the land that already had people living on it (including the 25-40,000 Jews who STAYED and survived in Palestine up to the 1890s).The source of the creation of Israel among the waves of Jews on permanent Aliyah ended up creating a version of Israel that ironically Theodore Herzl would very likely would have disliked If not despised.

[@malcire]

What obligation was there to agree to the deal? Generally turning down a deal doesn't mean the other side simply gets everything. In fact Israel agreed to return the land from the Palestinian half in exchange for UN membership (as well as UN support in returning it securely). But has never sought to do so and furthermore annexed East Jerusalem (which they agreed they wouldn't do). Now that isn’t to say the Palestinian side (or at least any group with the power to govern in any way) has been any better. Both the Palestinian militias in the 1940's and the Zionist ones were pretty open about taking it all (you can read Ben Gvir's diaries on it) and both were ethno nationalists. Ben was willing to play the long game. Something that Mufti and his ilk were never able to do (and they killed any who didn't go along with them).

[@alexk8599]

It's leviOsa, not leviosA

[@djstona5284]

Have you worked at tescos

[@otisbaffo9264]

Wow since Israel is losing then there's no need for a ceasefire. Aloha Snack bar, it is well

[@ankurbhatnagar4609]

Realistically, how big a threat is Hamas to Israel? Even if Israel did nothing, what is the likelihood that Hamas could repeat the Oct 7 attack?

[@BarefootDani]

What happened on oct 7 was only the last straw. You forgot the hundred of thousands of missiles that were shot daily towards israeli cities since israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005 (they are still shooting, btw), and the terror tunnels that some probably still exist. I doubt October 7 would happen again, but the situation was unacceptable way before it. Also, there are still hundred of thousand israeli civilians that evacuated and can't return to their homes, both near gaza and northern israel (where hizballa is also shooting daily).

[@MosheBenChaim]

Read the Tenach and see who will win!

[@constantineceasar]

Long live the state of Israel and all its people no matter if they are jews, christians, or muslims. 🇮🇱

[@Ynhockey]

A few notes about the last part of the video: * 14:33 Actually that was the ratio at the start of the war, now it's less than 1:1. In any case 2:1 civilians:terrorists is the "standard" ratio for modern armies in such environments, e.g. the US in Mosul. * 14:49 This is not entirely accurate. A bit over 270 soldiers have died, but this includes over 40 from friendly fire and accidents, and 15+ in the north (Hezbollah). It's doubtful that even 200 have died by Hamas's hands (even if we include PIJ, PFLP, al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and every other terror group in Gaza), and this is significant because it means Hamas and PIJ have killed more Palestinians since October 8 than they did Israelis (e.g. al-Ahli hospital bombing). This is not surprising, but some people might not be aware. * 15:08 This mostly refers to the start of the war; now the situation is much less dire. This is actually a major overlooked reason why Israel isn't being more aggressive - if it calls up all its reservists again, it could suffer an economic disaster, so it's calling up the minimum necessary to pursue the war goals.

[@malcire]

Where does that ratio actually come from? What independent group researched or certified it? Because I keep seeing it mentioned but the only officials I can see presenting it as fact are Israel itself (some UN group just said they don't calculate it).

[@Ynhockey]

@@malcire No independent research group has certified any casualty numbers from either side, so if this is your standard, it's impossible to tell. The numbers everyone cites for Gazan casualties come straight from Hamas, and are statistically impossible (look up the analysis by statistician Abraham Wyner). However, it's what even the UN formerly accepted. If you extrapolate these Hamas numbers with the estimated number of killed terrorists by Israel, you get the ratio. You can do this almost on a day-to-day basis (IDF Spokesperson publishes the numbers per-operation, as well as occasional estimated totals).

[@peterpanini96]

Whatever... 😂

[@mirisab9825]

The Israeli war and attack, not "intervention"

[@khalfimohcen]

Jerusalem idea! how do you expect anyone hearing this to think you in visual politics are not siding with Israel.

[@lynxlecher9547]

Because Israel is less guilty than the despicable other side.

[@alexlarsen6413]

Those requests in the ceasefire offer once again show how utterly cynical Hamas is. At this point there's no other way than eliminating the organization completely. This mustn't be just another cycle. The wheel needs to be broken. Since Hamas has literally been cornered, my guess is, Israel has set up shelters for civilians as a way of separating the wheat from the chaff. Sure, some of the Hamas fighters might give up the fight and mix with the civilians. That's a matter for another day, future investigations..etc. The point is tracking those who try and flee, because the only way they can go to are the last remaining tunnels. That's just my opinion. Speaking of opinions, I think that after the conflict Netanyahu and his government need to go. The new government should join in the international efforts to rebuild Gaza. Not only should they join, they should lead the effort and be its main patron, heavily investing in that area. Eventually...and I understand that cannot happen over night - it may take a decade, but Israel's ultimate goal should not just be withdrawing and leaving Gaza to the Gazans, but rebuilding and setting conditions for that area to thrive, instead of merely sequestering and controlling the population. Allow normal trade, allow them to have an airport and seaports. Nothing stops bullets better than jobs and decent life.

[@zurielsss]

Israel had no interest in rebuilding Gaza, they wanted to force everyone into exile and refugees status and takeover the lands

[@baronbrummbar8691]

i only see two scenarios 1. israel simply crushed the Hamas and we are back in the situation pre 2005 2. at the Final straw the Hamas gives in with the sole condition of going into exile (i doen´t see any other condition that israel would accept)

[@malcire]

The problem is that Hamas going into exile would require another state to take them. Jordan likely won't, neither would Egypts current regime. Iran is also unlikely (they don't want more Muslims of that sect and no one would trust that they wouldn't turn back up at Israel's Syrian border or in Lebanon). They could go to Lebanon except that just effectively transfers more allies for Hezbolla their. Something that neither Israel or most of the Western powers want. Additionally, without political and structural changes to the realities in Gaza, WB, and East Jerusalem; it isn't going to prevent another one of the smaller terror groups from just absorbing the military aid and prospective members.

[@baronbrummbar8691]

@@malcire - Turkey already Schelters the Hamas so that is an option - and i disagree with the structual changes thight grip policy have worked in post WWII germany and they for the most part work in the west bank the lack of direct control is what allowed this nonsensical war - palestine is already the region wich gets the most humanitarian aid in the world a bit of stability and it will overcome most of its problems

[@michaelpassick7539]

I like your ideas. I would like to see Israel receive a permanent seat on the UN Security Council. Also a UN committee on investigation the global financing of terrorism. Israel would be the permanent chair and America the permanent Vic-chair. .

[@khairulhelmihashim2510]

PLO did exiled from Lebanon in 1980s under similar excuse, . Did Palestinians people feel happy and regain a dignified life? No, 2 intifada uprisings, and giving rise for another militant group replacing PLO.

[@alawi0juventus]

Biased

[@vic.D777]

Oh it has started:)