Vitamin C, Whole Food Vs. Synthetic: Does It Matter?

[@jirihutecka9020]

I think the best argument against "vit C complex" is that animals that synthesize vit C obviously synthesize only vit C not some complex..

[@shackinternational]

Exactly that’s the argument I use when I hear this nonsense…

[@enalo6261]

They synthesize only ascorbic?

[@lucyloudozarr9349]

But those animals can MAKE their own. We can’t. We have to get it from in food. What else is different about those animals ? I don’t take vitamin C and I don’t want concentrated amounts of dried berries either. Loaded with phenols , salicylate and other crap.

[@iancanada6875]

@@lucyloudozarr9349I’ve heard a theory that we stopped producing vitamin C when we switched to a highly carnivorous diet around 2-3 million years ago. With the absence of carbohydrate in our diet the required amount of vitamin C drops drastically. We might have needed to loose that ability to prevent an overload of vitamin C or maybe it was just more efficient to not produce it since red meat can provide you with enough vitamin C given that you do not consume carbohydrates.

[@evelienvansteenbergen8122]

@@iancanada6875 unfortunately, that can be debunked immediately looking at guinea pigs, who also don't make their own vitamin C, and who are obviously not carnivorous.

[@MC-op6gb]

I was thinking if synthetic Vitamin C prevents and cures scurvy it must be useful on its own without a complex.

[@rdance3]

My thoughts exactly!

[@Sixers-]

I was literally asking chatGPT about this yesterday. It was like, "there is no tyrosinase in whole food vitamin C complex" and I was like, "but Morley Robbins said there was 😭"

[@cameronborg8659]

Hey Chris, after speaking with Gabor Somlyai and Stephanie Seneff about deuterium, I wonder about how much the deuterium distribution in synthetic nutrients might affect their function, particularly for nutrients that are destined for the mitochondria. Do you think that the lack of deuterium controls in synthetic nutrients could bare detrimental effects? It seems nature goes to pretty great lengths to prioritise hydrogen in most cases, placing deuterium in specific chemical groups like amines (Gabor told me that). Would love to know what you think! Thanks Chris!

[@bambigrage8464]

Thank you for your videos. Why don’t you have a discussion with Morley? He seems to be very open to talking to others. Tiny request - can you slow down your talking? 🙏

[@chrismasterjohn]

We are going to do one soon.

[@Chris-kr7gg]

You do realise you slow down the play back speed on YT ?

[@Mo-yj3wf]

@@chrismasterjohnI will wait for these one (or series)

[@willnitschke]

I'd love you to take a step back and explore if vitamin C supplements have any benefit if you're already eating a lot of whole foods?

[@rdance3]

I bet I know what he'd say. First, supplements help when there is a deficiency/insufficiency, which would be unlikely while eating a "balaced" whole food diet. The other time would be, if you had a particular enzyme defect or SNP that requires that specific cofactor. In which case, additional cofactors "CAN" increae the activity of that enzyme.

[@willnitschke]

@@rdance3 I'm not so sure about that. He is fan of supplementation. He is not a fan of over supplementation.

[@truthpopup]

Coincidentally, I started watching this video soon after taking two chewable vitamin C tablets, for a total of 1000 mg. How many dozen oranges would I have to eat to get the same amount?

[@TrustInJesusChrist-John3.16]

20 oranges 🍊 😊

[@TrustInJesusChrist-John3.16]

Btw research shows more than 500 mg per day long term may harm dna...i.e. become toxic to cells.... I only take 500 mg.

[@theboraxbandit9563]

but think of all that sugar

[@MatthewD999]

When I took ascorbic acid (500 mg a day) after about a week both my ankles swole to the size of my thighs. Right ankle went down after a few days but the left took about 2 weeks to go down. Now I have dark brown spots and blacks patches on that ankle. Numbness in my toes too.

[@theeprincess777]

I read Andrew Sauls book Doctor Yourself and he addresses this as well

[@avarielblackwing6613]

There's something about this presentation... did you just get off Twitter or something? You seem kinda ramped up... like you're trying to prove a point in a hurry. I feel like I'd need an Adderall just to keep up with the pace. If you're trying to educate a broad audience about the topic, take a breath and go slow.... lay out the problem first, then go about illustrating the pros & cons of each side. Something like that. Don't riddle us with information bullet machine gun fire. 😄

[@DavidKD2050]

Completely agree. His brain chemicals are cooking. God only knows what he was doing prior to this 1.5 times speed info dump. I am well versed on the subjects he covers but honestly couldn’t follow most of his rapid fire logic. My position, after extensive research, for what it’s worth, is that there is no point in ascorbic acid if you have all your ducks in a row everywhere else. Which is not easy I might add. And the number one reason that I would use it, or keep it handy, is as a laxative. (However I have never used it so). Oxalates😱, yes it breaks down into oxalates. I personally have no problem expelling them from my body but I do keep a close eye on my oxalate intake because 🤷‍♂️, I don’t want a problem.

[@MatthewD999]

If Ascorbic Acid is made from petroleum does that mean it has an estrogenic effect in the body?

[@MrApplewine]

He also says don't take synthetic vitamin A, Vitamin A palmitate, the esterified form. But, that is the form that your body stores Retinol in and releases it as retinol, and if you eat liver, it will have both retinol and retinyl esters, primarily retinyl palmitate. I think he may be getting confused because Ascorbyl Palmitate is not the storage form of vitamin C in the body, but Retinyl Palmitate is. Also, other animals have higher levels of ascorbic acid in their blood and their ceruloplasmin works right? It is a common misconception that humans cannot produce vitamin C endogenously, but this is only somewhat true. While humans cannot produce vitamin C from glucose, they can do something that those animals cannot. We can produce vitamin C from dehydroascorbic acid (DHA), which is the used and oxidized vitamin C, so we can recycle our vitamin C. So, yes we need some, but we can also produce more from what we consume so goes a lot further. I'm not sure why we don't need as high levels in the blood though, I don't think recycling would exactly make up for that.

[@zoeholtz2410]

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[@meggi8048]

why dont you debunk the source material they use for those theories?

[@Jay-bo1gs]

Could the ceruloplasmin thing explain why my hair went drastically white when megadosing vitamin C and iron for iron deficiency?

[@jirihutecka9020]

Yes. Basically all proponents of high dose vit C have white hair and look like they have copper deficiency.. Just take 200-400mg from whole food source supplement like acerola powder. That is plenty.. I would also never take iron supplements. Just eat more red meat..

[@mikeong80]

wow vitamin c reduces copper and copper deficiency causes white hair. You proven that :)

[@MatthewD999]

@@mikeong80 How do you know Vit C reduces Copper?

[@rdance3]

Informaiton long overdue.

[@mr8966]

Get it best from a carnivore diet.

[@williehasenbos4899]

you'r IA is getting better ....