Vive XR Elite: Is This The Start Of VR Glasses?

[@BIGBASSSAMA_4]

The next 10 years is gonna be insane for vr hardware

[@013nil]

tbh, its always the next 10 years.

[@BIGBASSSAMA_4]

@@013nil u not lying 🤣

[@BIGBASSSAMA_4]

At least for the vr hardware downsizing while getting more efficient and powerful

[@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast]

@@013nil get an OG PSVR and play Resident Evil 7, which is already 6 years old, and you'll understand where he's coming from. VR needs power behind it, and the PS5 or a PC delivers, but you need qualified developers to give you realism, or it's not very immersive. I want to feel like I'm in it not just look like I'm in it, and there's only so many experiences like that

[@dzenacs2011]

​@@BIGBASSSAMA_4 Imagine you pack all of this in pretty bag but forgot that this thing need gaming PC to work lol. Happy travel

[@DanielEckert63]

I have a large team that creates content for these types of HMDs - and THANK YOU for providing great insights and unbiased opinions. It’s nice to see a review that isn’t all rainbows and unicorns. You have hit on all of the key issues with the HTC - other than the SDK issues. Just because it’s the same chip - it does run custom apps about 25-30% slower than the Quest Pro - as the software team at Meta is a few years ahead on optimization vs. where the HTC team is at.

[@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast]

I'm not sure why Vive doesn't have the $200 battery as an option since its not necessary and sell this for $899.99........

[@allcool27gaming]

+A to the CNET VR media team! Every video is awesome to watch and gets me excited about the future. Scott Stein always talks in a very calm/relaxed voice and knows what he is talking about. These 7 minute videos are easy to watch and filled with great content. Keep it up please!

[@MassDefibrillator]

you forgot to mention that the XR elite actually has the depth sensor that was removed from the quest pro at the last minute, so the XR elite has better augmented reality integration.

[@Ray__E]

I have a Quest 2 and love it. The future of VR will be smaller goggles in my opinion. I don't carry my Quest 2 on trips because of the size. I love the form factor of the XR. It's so compact and something I can carry around in a bag that won't take up much space.

[@brucerain2106]

Bro, I wish I had a quest , cuz I cant travel with my rift cv1 for real

[@FayeTheNerd]

@@brucerain2106$500 aint bad but the price on games is what starts to get annoying.

[@collinreed2062]

I had to return mine, be careful and be aware of the size of your nose, if the headset doesn't feel right USE THE TOP STRAP or you won't be comfy, amazing headset but kinda blurry and small lenses, very small spot to set the view right. Diopter are great and without the battery on with just the glasses clip weighs less than half a pound, super awesome and make sure to take the type strap and wrap it around the back of your head, amazing headset but just not the right size for me. I was super sad to send it back and I WILL be buying the second version if it ever comes out.

[@szabolcscsengoi4231]

It was designed for Asian people at first place I guess.

[@borborkontri4837]

I wish he kept the same energy he had for PlayStation VR 2. He doesn't seem to criticize any other VR headset

[@trumplostlol3007]

CNET is OBVIOUSLY biased against PSVR 2. In fact, PSVR 2 is more than 100 g lighter than Vive XR. With the underpadding of this headset, I am pretty sure it is very uncomfortable to wear for over an hour. It is still using that underpowered Snapdragon XR 2. So, it can't run AAA VR game and will have ugly PS2 graphics just like Quest 2. What is stupider is, there is NO AR apps. That's exactly the reason why Quest pro sucks and Vive XR isn't any better!

[@BPMa14n]

The Quest 2 using immersed is pretty neat I am hoping for a full touch typing plus hand tracking to work in a standing position. This and the Qpro look like they can make this experience happen

[@harrihu]

As someone with an unusual prescription I would like to see an adapter that works with my glasses or has a wider range of adjustment in that department. Additionally I actually like the rings on the controllers. I sometimes hook the ring over my thumb giving my hands the ability to grasp an additional object like a snack, drink, phone, etc. and can then just pop back to what I was doing quickly without having to flip them back up from strap dangling position. I'm sure there are straps that would essentially let me do the same thing but it feels like if I had to take them off it would take longer to put back on. Maybe I'm wrong here, never tried.

[@pixelfairy]

The valve index has straps like that. You can get straps for other controllers like the quest 2 ones.

[@gamingconnected4859]

Working at Oculus for a few years. I'm ready for Holographic displays honestly!

[@psylentrage]

I do like the modular design👌 You replace only what's broken, not the whole set🙃

[@teawa_]

Would've been sold on the Vive XR if only they could scale it down to a more affordable price. Sucks that the tech we have today doesn't allow for it

[@brucerain2106]

Palmer Luckey really kickstarted a whole industry

[@MarufAlom]

came here after watching Vision Pro

[@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast]

I see the replacement battery is $200, I'm hoping they just leave the battery out the initial purchase and sell for $900, or even come down to a $799 price tag I would definitely think about a purchase at that point

[@zombl337og]

downsizing is the biggest advance for VR since its inception. better specs are great, but size and weight is the key to success

[@berrymckockiner5883]

AR is the future not vr

[@zombl337og]

@@berrymckockiner5883 AR/VR both have advantages and use cases

[@berrymckockiner5883]

@@zombl337og AR will be relabeled smart glasses VR is gimmick no one enjoys. It's to Isolating, you need a dedicated area, nausea, people are to lazy to wave their hands around, people don't want to wear anything on their face. This is why VR will fail, doesn't have enough utility outside of gaming

[@zombl337og]

@@berrymckockiner5883 i agree that AR is more versatile, but there are quite a few VR games that really played well

[@berrymckockiner5883]

@@zombl337og I know half life Alyx is great but it's not enough to get over all the hurdles I mentioned. It'll never become mainstream. Like the fact that all VR headsets are actually not VR at all and they're actually MR, proves my point about isolation.

[@mrevilcodes]

The prescription option is brilliant, indeed.

[@marcelinorodriguez7628]

Damn!! I was born to early. I can’t wait to see how they would look 30 years from now

[@Joee0201]

Bought this and returned it. Software is not there yet. Kept the Meta Quest Pro, and still have my Vive Pro. This one felt great though. But honestly when you take the controller and the battery it is the same size as the Quest Pro in a bag.

[@SteveandLizDonaldson]

I just want to watch immersive experiences (VR or 360 video) travel, games, etc so want a high field of view and don't care about pass-through. Is Pimax the only company for me?

[@ChrisD__]

The Crystal doesn't have a high FoV.

[@CaidicusProductions]

Remembering how people used to do lan parties by lugging their gigantic computers to friends' places... Now we're upset we have to carry a few things that fit into a bag, half the size of a basketball. We're WAY too spoiled...

[@igormarcos687]

Price, though?

[@aliren6118]

Good video. However, I don't know if it is just me but I care sooo very little about whether or not it is small enough to carry around with me in a bag? This review spent too much time going over the portability. Personally I feel like controllers that are too small are difficult to hold, it messes up your grip a little and is uncomfortable. These controllers are fine the way they are. But then I don't want to put them in my pocket and go on a bus downtime. I am not getting this angle in the review tbh.

[@waltergolden7455]

I do like its ability to break down all of it. It has quite a streamlined design. I look forward to the day when headsets are the norm. I still wow ppl with the Quest 2 who haven't tried it, 2 of which bought their own for the fun factor!Thanks for the review & being a fellow VR enthusiast with glasses 🤓🥽🎮

[@NothingHereForYou]

We’ve come a long way. Really the quest 2 or psvr2 are the impressive ones to me being balanced for the price they are. $500 feels like the sweet spot where I can see most consumers, not vr enthusiasts, seeing themselves buying it which is important.

[@cheeeeezewizzz]

Well considering that about 90% of the human population doesn't make 500 a month, I imagine that "most" consumers can't afford it. But for Americans that price is ok.

[@NothingHereForYou]

@@cheeeeezewizzz Yes 3rd world countries aren’t the average consumer and probably wouldn’t care whatever is…What an odd comment to bring up.

[@--DM]

VR was supposed to be this revolutionary technology to change the world in 2012-2014. 10 years and many $B later it is still trying to find product/market fit, refine cumbersome equipment, do something with difficult-to-connect/operate devices, high prices and low adoption. A tale of vision meeting execution...

[@HliarusProd]

Quest 2 alone sold more units than Xbox. That's not exactly low adoption. The tech is still refining, but it's definitely going mainstream

[@SSS-mp8th]

What is the real market penetration for these sort of devices? And how many are in use once the novelty wears off?

[@-racingfan2014]

The future is a rokid max form factor and ideally the battery and chip in a AR remote form factor that you put in your pocket but 100+ fov and VR.

[@nicksoehren4812]

I feel like apple yes would make a mix reality headset but I think they might push out something like google glass possibly. Just do it in a way where it won’t creep people out just no camera 😂. I don’t know I really feel like google glass had a lot of potential if it didn’t freak people out.

[@jeffrey1000902713588]

Why didn’t you mention the psVR2? It’s one of the top notch vr out there

[@g43s]

1:40 whats the point of not having a battery? Can it be powered by the usb c port?

[@ifur]

Yes that’s the point

[@hyp-o-crite-]

its geting closer it need to battery build in to frame to make it smaller + better a.i for hand control + 5g or faster wifi connection

[@zweiwing4435]

Does Vive XR Elite will have same feature as virtual office?

[@artefaktartefakt]

HTC Vive XR elite have FOV in tests for vertical - 80°, horizontal 92°

[@mrnigam4486]

why nobody covers one most important thing - the lcd panel quality of headsets , the screen door , the fly effect ? , What about the screendoor effect ? do you see pixels/pixel grid ? meta quest 2 is not watchable for videos / ott streaming platforms becoz of screendoor and the panel quality is not that good and fresnel lenses make it bad further , i usually play quake 3 arena on it and some racing games

[@trumplostlol3007]

It looks slim. But it is actually heavier than PSVR 2. It is underpadded obviously! Wearing these heavy VR headsets can be very painful!

[@bornfree2861]

Good review, but I disagree on waiting now.. we need to invest and buy the products that are coming out so the companies continue to invest and build a product that's being bought and used.

[@conejeitor]

It´s weird you didn´t try it with a PC. Can it play PC games at all?

[@prilep5]

VR set should be like astronauts helmets with dome like concave screen or like a mask.battery should be in a backpack or maybe belt mounted holster definitely not on a head

[@oO0Xenos0Oo]

You need two screens for the 3d effect, one for each eye. You cant just slap one big screen in front of your face to get a VR experience. And the battery is also used to balance out the headset.

[@miquelbiggs5721]

Can’t they just fast forward to the part where ar is incorporated into contact lenses?

[@tommycouser656]

This is really cool. I was just wondering if I could bring my quest headset on to a place to use.

[@JohnnyADi]

I sent mine back cause it had dead pixels. Really wouldn't want to get another one, has some issues I just don't like.

[@crimmy0204]

wonder if this overheats and is defective like vives last headset.

[@toddrichert2749]

It is NOT the same proc as the Quest Pro, the Pro has X2+ which is a completely different chip.

[@ConservativeJuggaloPodcast]

The graphics need to get more realistic like Resident Evil 7. Being inside video games isn't that great when the graphics aren't that good, (I'm lookin at you Doom VFR) but when you're inside Resident Evil Biohazard it's like you're really there. I understand that's up to the qualifications of the developer but if they want more mainstream base they need to step it up, amd come down on this price range yikes. Playstation also needs to step up their apps and have VR Chat compatibility or make their own cuz limiting to just video games is a huge limitation

[@real_fryinryan]

If i was gonna get a mixed reality headset period, id waste that extra $100 for the xr elite instead of the quest pro

[@Slayceos]

Am I the only person that laughs out loud when I heard the word Apple

[@DwainDwight]

give it 5 years & things will be drastically better.

[@GorilieVR]

Increased competition will have the same effect on VR as every other industry: more competition = exponential innovation Same thing we're seeing with the AI advancements

[@lionelt.9124]

Those glasses look like the much rumored Steam Deckard.

[@EhCloserLook]

But if I wait, I’ll be like 50+ years old by the time they streamline the VR glasses design.

[@blushslice]

I think this is the closest anyone else is coming to apples upcoming headset, pretty impressive

[@United_Wings]

Amazing ❤

[@afg-gv3wz]

Glasses not even an issue with majority of users and he still talking about it a lot all the time.

[@troylangford3650]

Did you mean xr glasses? These are mixed reality glasses, hence the name, xr elite

[@Buharialtinee]

I prefer quest pro is more beautiful

[@cheeeeezewizzz]

Didn't Nreal already make glasses style 6dof xr glasses? Those work with steam vr. So this product is about.....2 years late to that party?

[@dzenacs2011]

Imagine you pack all of this in pretty bag but forgot that this thing need gaming PC to work lol. Happy travel

[@abdalrhmanyassin1893]

apple is going to push ar/vr ahead because it is going to build ar/vr headset completely integrate with mac/ios os , I think if htc or meta has adopted window os with a their own apps ,they could achieve gains ,we want cheap microsoft hololins ,when microsoft fails in phons systems,it adopted android

[@listerinr]

If your glasses don't fit, just put on contacts maybe? 🤔

[@havocthehobbit]

does CNET get $2 everytime they mention apple . This product has nothing to do with apple and apple doesnt even have a product out and hasnt marketed anything but they compared the Vive to apple at least twice already in the first 3 min of this video. That on its own makes me distrust their reviews as just being opinion pieces drooling over design as if its a fashion show for handbag accessories.

[@ChrisD__]

And not even 2 minutes in they said something completely factually false. There *is* a battery in the front of the headset so you can hot swap the rear pieces! Lol

[@ronleak1968]

agree 100%....I've seen at least 10 reviews on Apple VR vaporware in the last 4 years..all claiming it will instantly be the best VR. They've never seen a product and sometimes they just interview each other

[@novice7T7]

ill probably be 50 by the time vr reaches anything noteworthy and id probably need a new pair of eyes too see pixels lol

[@techscience1480]

If apple is building VR, it would not be VR but AR. With VR you can't do much, in AR you can. Apple doesn't have software or games that would be interesing to play or use it over meta quest. And even if they are able to, that is not inovation. Only option to be inovate is to offer good AR.

[@louielouie9502]

Light bleed "Mixed Reality" that's sleezy salesman talk pal. Still love you though Bro. 😎

[@weplayvrgames]

Alot of warping in that passthrough

[@YFWILL511]

Just make motion sensor gloves instead of controllers.

[@koblongata]

I want OLED

[@AkumaQiu]

HTC should have used OLED screens ffs. WHY WHY WHY LCDS

[@mrnigam4486]

bigscreen VR headset is the way to go , if you have that kind of money to burn

[@timisa58]

I see almost no real advantage the XR has over Quest Pro. The processor on the XR is the Snapdragon XR2 while the Quest Pro uses the XR2+. Most personal reviews of the XR Elite have been lackluster or not so good compared to the QPro. Also, I do some and teach VR and game development and I have seen nothing about the reliability of the XR Elite for that purpose. Anyone? The Quest 2 and Pro just work. One thing I do like is the form size. Hope the reliability of the Quests is integrated into something much smaller. I suspect that Apple may be doing that but at a premium price I won't and do not need to pay for.

[@soccergoku24]

I love how this is similar to the Nreal Air but way more expensive. The Nreal Air is $300 compared to others, which is over a thousand dollars.

[@ajgold1115]

I'll be forever upset that people freaking out killed Google Glass, who are these bug eyed headsets for?? The use cases seem SO LIMITED 😮‍💨 Even for what Apple is releasing. No idea how they're going to market this to make you feel like you NEED this

[@TravisGarnett]

😎👍

[@CompositingAcademy]

Apple is going to decimate this product design.

[@zenithquasar9623]

I think the Apple's glasses will be even smaller because it won't have any heavy processing unit in it. It will be dependent on the iPhone for a few generations until the glasses and the phone becomes the same device.

[@silvrsurfer]

Interesting

[@esmokebaby]

Na I have glasses and I don't want to see the real world when I VR 😂

[@worekarolis]

Had it for a couple of weeks. Such a disappointment. No XR apps, almost no content, hand tracking is garbage. You have to set up boundaries every time you use it. Software is really lacking refinement. It's an android system, why are there no android VR apps? Netflix or KZbin?

[@iamdickel8574]

If people want to buy this, price should always low

[@frankallen3634]

This gimmick is not a thing for regular people and won't catch on like they hope

[@AlphaXiro]

Heard this headset wasn't good and not that comfy

[@arryusofficial]

This thing is partially finished. Well at least it looks like a prototype. If this is the final product I'd never spend 1000 USD on this. Let's wait what Apple comes up with. I'd rather pay 2000 USD on something that works and finished then 1000 USD on a cheap plastic toy like this.

[@tempusfugit2811]

The htc ar elite dosnt compare to the meta pro !!!

[@RelaxTake30]

Basically zero reason to get this instead of the Quest Pro

[@corbador]

Nothing about this blew me away. It seemed terrible

[@chriss2295]

Apple is doing us a favor in developing AR/VR. Like Apple or not, they will pave the way for the rest of the industry.

[@StratumPress]

lol

[@SPECTREmVp.6936]

2nd 19 seconds❤

[@jathomas0910]

Booooooooo

[@lfspro7292]

1

[@RavagHer]

mainstream vr is 100 years away with prices like these

[@berrymckockiner5883]

@@freeqtek vr is doa, ar is the future

[@berrymckockiner5883]

@@freeqtek arcades are not popular anymore and are very niche. You're literally proving my point with your example and PSVR2 is already a failure, apple Samsung and byte dance will all fail

[@berrymckockiner5883]

@@freeqtek lol the AR tech is not ready, all you have to do is play horizon zero Dawn to see the Vision of AR's future, the focus is what it'll become. VR has reached its ceiling and it's peaked, there is nothing else you can do with it. I bet you can't even name one more innovative thing that VR is yet to reach except for it needs to be cheaper, lighter and less bulky. Btw those things I mentioned are not innovative, they're just efficient.

[@berrymckockiner5883]

@@freeqtek so basically you named everything AR will be. Your ideas for VR will be an inferior version of AR because you will be stuck at home and isolated from the world. Also a lot of your software ideas you can already do in VR. Do you now see why VR will fail. The only thing VR will be better at than AR is immersive video games and that's it, nothing else