Vladimir Kramnik: "It's Obvious Violation of FIDE Rules" To Have A Phone Recording

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[@lordofblood2024]

Kramnik waited 9 long days to make a complaint about phones in the playing hall. It was happening from the very first day and not only CBI but other media were also doing that. But Kramnik made a complain just during the game between India vs Uzbekistan. Nice move Kramnik. 😊

[@ArjanKumar-s1s]

🤣💯

[@blankpaper2471]

@@lordofblood2024 he understood that they don't stand a chance against India. So, he use his usual tactics to disqualified india.

[@harzh9369]

He and other Russian GM's have also said that "SOME" top players(pointing to gukesh really) are not as good in blitz so they must be cheating. If you see their podcasts (nepo grishcuk) . It is very obvious.

[@lordofblood2024]

@@harzh9369 which podcast? Nepo said it during the Olympiad?

[@zitoco2654]

@@harzh9369 so by their point all players who are good in blitz and not in classical should be cheating right?

[@govinddas7876]

Like Danya said on stream, I would love for Kramnik to actually point out which rule was violated because its 100% allowed to have authorized phones in play area.

[@newfaith912]

did you listen what he said 🤣🤣

[@junksails814]

Do you believe pagers can explode on demand? Now you better believe it. Can phone without SIM card TRANSMIT INFORMATION? YOU BETTER believe it. Ask Mossad

[@Arsenic_99]

Its the same as saying why can't I murder someone unless people exactly quote which provisions in the constitutional law forbids me to.

[@ArjanKumar-s1s]

Yeah I listened and it was all cramp he nothing have any point just staying meaningless there is a rule to take phone in the match group through the persimmon of arbiter and that KZbin channel chessbase india did the same and carrying the phone from day

[@newfaith912]

@@ArjanKumar-s1s you dont speak english let alone understand.

[@my_handle_123]

Sagar shah is the most honorable man in chess media. Due to his authorised phones, we are actually able to watch the games later. The official fide channels just suck. I love chess as a sport but man the elitism is just sickening. Any one with an iota of brain cells can understand that this was a cheap mindgame from Kramnik to rattle the young indian team.

[@meron7700]

If anyone is curious the FIDE Laws of Chess states: "Unless authorised by the arbiter, it is forbidden for anybody to use a mobile phone or any kind of communication device in the playing venue or any contiguous area designated by the arbiter." I imagine the phones used to record are authorized by the arbiter...

[@govinddas7876]

it was. The phones were even stamped with a sticker for easy identification of which are authorized.

[@KA_edu]

Maybe not. He has right to ascertain

[@lucassipe9448]

​@@KA_edu people have the right. Kramnik who has done nothing but lob (largely) baseless accusations cause he's mediocre at online speed chess shouldn't be taken seriously

[@r0ckyr083]

​@@KA_eduthat he did... chessbase even allowed him to check the phones which were already checked by fide team. he's still accusing for rule break which doesn't help.

[@gabar6541]

It's a sad and unlucky for chess world HAOW THIS tricky and sneaky old man KRAMNIK trying all tricks available to destroy CHESS WORLD leaded by democratic nation like INDIA JELEAOUSY? HELPLESNESS? Coz why he didn't claim and protested on other days? He was watching and walking always at INDIAN CHESS PLAYER😂 All of sudden coz he could beat INDIA? WAT A LOOSER INDIA should ask for DEFARMATION and LOST OF REPUTATIIN caused by this cunning man So sad

[@Neo__01]

The audacity to say "we were close to winning" when in fact they were one move away from losing (somehow Arjun missed it under time pressure) shows where Kramnik is mentally.

[@mrflamingo1004]

Sindarov was very close to an objectively winning position against Pragg, who also had very little time. Considering the other boards all ended in draws, they WERE close to winning (and close to losing too)

[@akhilmt9731]

​@@mrflamingo1004 A 0.8 eval advantage isn't close to winning lmao

[@Neo__01]

@@mrflamingo1004 Sindarov was close to objectively winning position? A normal person would say he had some advantage till he played all the computer engine moves he came prepared with, but once Pragg took him out of his prep he clearly had no clue about the position. And if u really want to objectively compare the eval of both games then Sindarov had max +1.2 whereas Arjun had +3.9. No sane person would dare to say the Uzbeks were "close" to winning unless ofcourse u belong to same mental category as Kramnik.

[@KA_edu]

Uzbekistan current olympic champions, full stop

[@Apostolnixx]

​@@mrflamingo1004 there's a big difference between being +1.25 and a whole blunder. India was actually close to win this match

[@_wakanda_forever]

Sagar clarified in his "chessbase india" stream that the phones were checked before and approved to be placed inside the hall and he placed the phone there bcoz his cameras can't record videos for 7 hours because of quick battery drain and heating issues.

[@MrSupernova111]

That's not the point. Either the presence of the phones in the playing hall violate rules or they don't. Rules must be enforced or they're meaningless.

[@n3mo146]

@@MrSupernova111 Shh, dont cry!

[@SatishKumar-fj7uc]

​@@MrSupernova111 the phones were permitted according to the rules

[@Adarsh-vd3jw]

​@@MrSupernova111It was allowed, no point of cribbing.

[@thepiyush909]

Guess what cameras with long batteries do exist.

[@turtleintelligence]

FIDE should create a separate rule to allow e-cigarettes. This guy looses his mind without getting high

[@maloydey9182]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@gertjh5u64u]

Lol

[@imafraidjumitebeeinnagang3886]

Lmfao

[@vd.se.17]

He was making Bubble cloud with e-Cigarettes and it had whistle so they banned it.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ArjanKumar-s1s]

💯

[@SanjayKumar-n8h3s]

I'm a Kramnik defender and the job just keeps getting harder

[@Divyanshu5575]

@@SanjayKumar-n8h3s 😂

[@winfredj9820]

🤣🤣

[@deepaklachman9340]

@@SanjayKumar-n8h3s 🤣

Yep... Its really bad... The name is closely associated to accusation of cheating, lagging and so on... I do not say he his wrong everytime... But his name is getting bad to worse for me.

[@user-rx2uo5mr7d]

😂😂

[@my_handle_123]

I think the India team should file an official complaint against the opposition team coach who tried to distract them during the game with baseless accusations and cheap mind tricks.

[@jasond.personal5433]

This.

[@niketYoutube]

There are technologies to transmit moves trom glasses. Ask kramnik to keep it at home

[@ArjanKumar-s1s]

Yeah it would help his team very much 🤣

[@pubgmobileclashroyale4725]

​@@ArjanKumar-s1sOur chess team doesn't need help. They are already in top 3. But i see Indian team must need help in Olympics while even North Korea did better

[@xtanpx]

​@@pubgmobileclashroyale4725nice way to divert the topic because you can't win the argument! Guess, the fellow countrymen have the same Karen tendency as Kramnik. Cope harder 🤢

[@syncingdata3560]

@@pubgmobileclashroyale4725 Im sorry but the event currently taking place is called the Chess Olympiad not the Olympics

[@muk_is_superior]

​@@pubgmobileclashroyale4725the reading comprehension curse is strong with this one. Olympiad ≠ Olympics

[@tommihommi1]

people need to stop giving kramnik attention for everything he says

[@emiliogonzalez7246]

He is your favorite chess players favorite chess player. Everyone has a lot of respect for him.

[@unknown-unknown69]

Kramnik has a point

[@_sayan_roy_]

@@unknown-unknown69 No, Kramnik does not have "a point". The rule 12.8 allows phones authorised by arbiters which was done for ChessBase India's phones and there are multiple other phones of other nationalities' photographers as well in the hall, all of which are authorized. It's a nothing burger which is typical of Kramnik who makes a fool out of himself every now and then now, even if his chess contributions are great. Danya explained it perfectly in the FIDE chess stream minutes later Kramnik's interview with the channel, if you listened to him.

[@middleagedgamer9630]

But it's so entertaining and funny 😁

[@abhirajput9399]

He has a point but he's still a clown

[@vaibhavnanda1343]

For those wondering about issues, the complaint was immediately addressed by the support staff which cleared the issue because those where FIDE approved phones permitted to record the games. No simcard was there ( obviously ) and further the case was cleared as nothing objectionable was found. I don't mind kramnik raising the issue but accusing the Indian team for cheating just alludes his grumpy behaviour.

[@mrflamingo1004]

I disagree with Kramnik's position here, but he's not accusing the Indian team of cheating-- he's arguing that phones should not be allowed at all because with all the advancement in technology, a team COULD find an easier loophole through which to cheat if phones were allowed. He clarified in the interview that he didn't have an issue with the Indian team. His problem is with the fact that FIDE does not seem to be sufficiently harsh on preventing cheating in advance.

[@_sayan_roy_]

@@mrflamingo1004 Yeah, but the point is Kramnik should know the rules first especially when you complain during a tournament and even more especially when you during a crucial match, which can shake Indian players' concentration. The rule 12.8 allows phones authorised by arbiters which was done for ChessBase India's phones and there are multiple other phones of other nationalities' photographers as well in the hall, all of which are authorized. If rule is to be challenged then Kramnik should challenge the rule before the tournament and not saying baseless things like it violated the rule when no violation took place. Kramnik is objectively wrong and we can reverse accuse Kramnik in that case and any team saying they are also getting transmissions since as I've mentioned Sagar and ChessBase India are not the only people with phone cameras in the hall. BTW, even cameras can transmit information nowadays and if phones can have in-built stockfish to calculate the moves without sim cards, then so can modified processors in cameras if enough funding and resources are put in. So, remove any electronics, I guess. Where does the paranoia end ?

[@r0ckyr083]

​@@mrflamingo1004the fide media team themselves use phones to take pictures... if kramnikvwsnted, he could've even blamed the team captains of blinking a certain way to signal the players of certain moves. kramnik has the right to check any media devices around his team, but he has not right to claim rule violation without reading the rule himself.

[@junksails814]

None of the FIDE personnel were phone experts. Was the phones tampered with prior to the tournament? Was the phones disguised as clandestine communication devise? You think FIDE has this expertise? Don’t say it’s not possible as the impossible now is possible just like can pagers explode on demand. You better believe it now. There are many crooks that will go to theses extreme to win on chess and war - just telephone Mossad for confirmation.

[@prateekc7804]

​@@mrflamingo1004u see they are recording games with mobile phones from day 1,is kramnik is completely blind

[@Neo__01]

This guy shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the FIDE rated tournaments. He's gone nuts!

[@winfredj9820]

most of the smart people have this problem in their older age

[@markphc99]

Not nuts, but more eccentric

@@markphc99 nah, he is definitely insane

[@junksails814]

Nah - thinking out of the box. Kramnik is correct in every count. You may not like him but he is correct. Can pagers explode? You better believe it now. Nothing is impossible. Ask Mossad

[@strong8705]

Might be on purpose, to attract media by scandals.

[@AayushSaxena07]

They were doing the same for last 8 rounds and Kramnik actually came couple of times to check the Indian boards but didn't have any problems then, but when India was playing against his team he suddenly thought it was wrong to have phones there. Typical Russian tactics to win by tit or tat. Even the rule says if the devices are authorised by the arbiter then they can be used so I don't see any violation of rules here.

[@junc3354]

and why would he complain if his team is not involved ? you and other folks would say that he is just being nosy .

[@chandanpulavarthi8904]

​@@junc3354I don't know what u are arguing about, IT IS WITH IN THE RULES

[@AayushSaxena07]

@@junc3354 So he isn't concerned about anti cheating measures when it's not his team? He claims to 'not accuse' India but is only concerned about fair game play but that's only when it's against his team? If he really had issues with the phones he could have raised the concerns in other rounds or even before the start of round 9 but he waited for it to start and once the middle game was reached he made an issue out of it to create some chaos. It was a planned move on his part which actually worked to an extent.

[@junc3354]

@chandanpulavarthi8904 sure. every rule or law has an exception.. it is all over the land.. what topic or law of the land you want to have a civil discussion with me.. just say the country and which law ..

[@PintuDharaLive]

Totally mind game

[@Vbio-m5q]

Close to win the match?? It was a dead draw for most of the games

[@zitoco2654]

yeah arjun had some opportunity and he couldn't convert under time pressure. he missed one move and it was a draw

[@d4rksol123]

I dare say I am a bit glad this happened. India has long had a close relationship with Kramnik, from Vishy and him being good friends, to him coaching a lot of Indian youngsters in the past etc. As such, I felt like most of the country (those close to chess anyway) had been mute on Kramnik's recent delusions (at least to my knowledge). I hope this changes that. Kramnik should be treated as a social pariah in chess for what he is doing (sure someone like Hikaru wont get affected by his antics, but Jospem could easily have, and not to mention younger players). Hopefully the world moves in that direction. People like Vishy and Srinath for example should stop being courteous to him when he shows up at events.

[@_sayan_roy_]

Kramnik and any person regardless of how great they were in their professions, should be treated as pariahs if they do things like this. This is exactly I was envisioning when this happened.

[@davidefantoni874]

@@d4rksol123 treating a world champion like a pariah?? Treating also the lesser person of a pariah is already a sin, you indians have a distorted morality. He is asking an improved level of security. Could Phones transmit moves via bluetooth? Yes. So they should be banned in the tournaments. Fans can follow all the matches trough the lichess live boards

[@erdeadman9954]

Nope Srinath has been very critical of him for a while now, I think you missed that he also accused Nihal Sarin of cheating and that is where most of the Indian chess community also started to treat him as pariah although senior players like vishy, hari and even juniors who got trained by him have to maintain some level of respect for him and thats what they are doing

[@d4rksol123]

@@erdeadman9954 I had missed about Srinath being critical of him after the Nihal stuff (I did know of Kramnik finding Nihal 'interesting'). Thank you for pointing this out. I had mentioned Srinath just due to him being Kramnik's counterpart in the India-Uzbek match. Should have looked up Srinath's stance first :D

[@phobi3545]

they took his vape an he PISSED LMAO

[@tweschke3]

there were smartphones in the playing hall, and vapes are forbidden, he is absolutely right in this case

[@govinddas7876]

@@tweschke3 which rule was specifically broken?

[@yashvardhanchoudhary5363]

@@tweschke3 No he is not.According to the rules if permission is granted from the authorities then they are allowed.

[@Opticalresolution]

Where do you guys read the rules

[@karthiknarayanan3705]

@@tweschke3 no kramnik is being an idiot as usual. No rules were broken.

[@TheRajneeshsrivastav]

Even modern camera have bluetooth and wifi connectivity, so what is his argument? Here "authorised" is the operating word...is he giving argument to some kindergarten kids?

[@ArjanKumar-s1s]

Damm correct 😁

[@mozyhar]

Only VHS cameras then 🙂

[@yafi2475]

Cameras do not have microprocessor in them that can decode board position from image and calculate chess moves using engine. I am not saying Kramnik is right, but the only one arguing like kindergarten kids is you.

[@TheRajneeshsrivastav]

@@yafi2475 It is possible to use a camera and Bluetooth to track a chessboard image. This would involve setting up a system where the camera captures images of the chessboard, and an image processing algorithm (like computer vision) analyzes the board to detect changes in piece positions. Bluetooth could be used to send this information to another device (e.g., a phone, computer, or digital chess clock) for further processing or display. A camera, such as a phone or webcam, is positioned to capture a top-down image of the chessboard. The camera captures real-time images or video, focusing on detecting the positions of the pieces on the board. Image Processing (Computer Vision): Object Detection Algorithms (e.g., OpenCV, TensorFlow) are used to process the camera images. These algorithms detect the grid of the chessboard and the location of the pieces. Piece Identification: Based on color and shape, the algorithm can identify which squares are occupied by which pieces (white/black and type of piece). Change Detection: The software compares sequential images to detect when a piece has moved and updates the board state accordingly. Bluetooth Communication: Once a change is detected in the board state, the system can send data via Bluetooth to a connected device. This could be used to update the board on a companion app, provide move suggestions, track game history, or relay moves to an AI opponent or remote player. Integration with Chess Software: The data transmitted over Bluetooth can be fed into chess software like Stockfish or Lichess, allowing analysis, move validation, or automatic game logging. You could also create a digital chess clock using Bluetooth communication to track the time for each player, synchronized with the physical board. Technical Considerations: Accuracy: The camera’s resolution and the quality of the computer vision algorithm will determine how accurately the system can detect piece movements. Latency: Depending on how quickly the camera captures and processes images, and how fast the Bluetooth connection is, there may be a small delay in tracking moves. Lighting: Adequate lighting is important for accurate piece detection. Shadows or reflections can interfere with image processing. Chessboard Marking: Some systems use marked or encoded chessboards (e.g., with QR codes or specific patterns) to help the computer vision software more easily detect and identify pieces. Tools You Can Use: OpenCV: Popular for real-time computer vision applications, it can detect the chessboard grid, recognize chess pieces, and track their movements. TensorFlow or PyTorch: Useful for creating neural networks that can identify chess pieces or even predict the next move based on the board state. Arduino or Raspberry Pi: Can be used to build custom hardware that integrates the camera and Bluetooth communication, especially for chess clocks or low-cost systems. This type of system is feasible, and with the right software and hardware, you can track and analyze a chessboard in real-time using a camera and Bluetooth connection" Please offer your counter opinion

[@TheRajneeshsrivastav]

We are living in AI script world Sir, You can not say something impossible ( i agree with Kramnik there) in technology only you can be regulatory and regulation is authorisation and jamming of data transfer. Rest argument is futile.

[@rtos]

Kramnik waited until day 9 of the tournament to flag his issue. He had no problem in the first 8 days apparently. Even worse this guy says that the Indian team was using it, whereas it was being used by a media team. Hope he understands there is a difference there. The real serious issue here is with this fellow Kramik, who keeps throwing mud at everyone around and hopes something will stick somewhere.

[@junc3354]

do you want Kramnick to lodge a complain against a team that his team is not playing against ? every team captain should look after the welfare and interest of their own..

[@sodiqovs]

​@@junc3354absolutely true

[@rtos]

@@junc3354 Which team are you exactly referring to? Kramnik l1ed when he said the Indian team was using it.

[@junc3354]

@rtos it is simple , why would he complain about the phone in the previous rounds that India was using when , it does not concern or affect his team.. that is why it took him that long..

[@rtos]

@@junc3354 I'm asking you a simple question- was the phone brought in and used by the official India team? Kramniks argument is hollow because its was cleared by security and brought in by a media team, and this is not only the only media team using a smartphone without sim.

[@DaNangadventurer]

So strange, Kramnik all about accusations on cheating etc but then he is working with Hans Niemann?!

[@sebaba001]

@@DaNangadventurer he helps him insert the dildo

[@wgoyt]

So from tomorrow, no cameras should also be allowed it is also technology, it also have bluetooth.

[@donramanayake1505]

Lol he probably will be happy about this and only realise his mistake when the Olympiad is cancelled next the next time around for lack of funding!

[@pankaz91]

Big Vlad sir has turned into Deepak Kalal of chess !

[@panodilatestlivefun]

hahahah sahi bole bhai!!! but i have more respect for deepak than this dork!!!

[@sourabhsiitg]

Does he even know camera also comes with bluetooth lolz

[@MrSupernova111]

That's not the point is it?

[@wgoyt]

It is exactly the point. ​@@MrSupernova111

[@95octavian]

That's childish a camera is not capable of running a chess engine and thats the difference

[@_sayan_roy_]

@@95octavian The rule 12.8 allows phones authorised by arbiters which was done for ChessBase India's phones and there are multiple other phones of other nationalities' photographers as well in the hall, all of which are authorized. If rule is to be challenged then Kramnik should challenge the rule before the tournament and not saying baseless things like it violated the rule when no violation took place. Kramnik is objectively wrong and we can reverse accuse Kramnik in that case and any team saying they are also getting transmissions since as I've mentioned Sagar and ChessBase India are not the only people with phone cameras in the hall. BTW, even cameras can transmit information nowadays and if phones can have in-built stockfish to calculate the moves without sim cards, then so can modified processors in cameras if enough funding and resources are put in. So, remove any electronics, I guess. Where does the paranoia end ?

[@r0ckyr083]

​@@95octavianit's not about running a chess engine... it's about giving a signal.... even a simple remotely operated lens movement can give a signal to a player as to a move being right or wrong.... fide checks the phones for no sim cards and approves it before being allowed in the playing field.

[@mattyb808]

Kramnik is having vape withdrawls 😭💨

[@mugiwara839]

It’s so idiotic on Kramnik’s part on not knowing the rules and then complaining later. This is utter nonsense. If he has problems with everything, why not just read the damn rules and object on a rule beforehand?

[@arpanmanna7990]

Each of the phones used for recording the games is checked and an okay sticker pasted on it. Kramnik objected during today's game and the arbiter checked again for Kramnik's peace of mind. No sim was found and the recording resumed. As for bluetooth, all cameras sold today have bluetooth and NFC. Kramnik watched the games of Indian players on each match day. He saw the phones recording the games. If he wanted he could have raised an objection on other days too. No other coach/captain thought of this as an issue. Rules were made by the fair play team, rules were followed. End of story.

[@junksails814]

The story begins. Don’t sweep the problem under the carpet. Did anyone believe pagers can explode ? Did anyone believe phones can transmit information without SIM card. Now you better believe that the unbelievable is possible. That is why the rule NO PHONES.

[@steliosioannou4996]

noone has the knowlege to check the phones,i work in a mobile company and there are 1milliion tricks to be celar but not

[@arpanmanna7990]

@@steliosioannou4996 leave that to the fair play team. They are experts in the field. Also the playing hall is teeming with all kinds of people.

[@MrSquaky]

Vladimir "They must be Cheating!" Kramnik

[@gchomuk]

Come on, Vlad. There's an app for phones that can capture the moves of the game. A camera can't do that. The app only needs the camera. Not wifi and not bluetooth. Get a grip, Vlad.

[@markets28]

Old Soviet misdirection tactics. They will never learn and live in past.

[@soumikchatterjee3996]

It doesn’t matter what Kramnik thinks or what others believe; what matters are the rules of chess. In this case, the rules have not been violated. If anyone has objections to FIDE’s rules, they should appeal to FIDE for changes. For those who simply want to enjoy chess, let’s focus on this great chess event. 'Art. 11.3.2 FIDE Laws of Chess'

[@shivamchouhan5077]

Phones were allowed by fide themselves as a camera, multiple media used phones for recording and the grandpa is only now seeing them. Kramnik aka Vladimir Delulu Kramnik.

[@jodya.vonwahl2413]

I believe the phone was being used by the media team from chessbase Indian so I would assume they have permission to use a phone for recording content. I'm sure they if FIDE told them that only dedicated cameras would be allowed in the hall they would have no issues complying. And I'm sure the last thing they want is to jeopardize a match result. That said I do see his point and I think FIDE should take it into consideration for further rounds or at the least future events. Integrity of the game must be maintained, especially in our current context of fair play / anti cheating concerns.

[@itachiuchiha9306]

Ofcourse they had permission from fide this old guy has gotten insane nothing else

[@yatinaj]

E-cigarettes are not banned for transmitting they are not allowed because it is an addiction, harmful and disturbing for others. Kramnik would know this because he gets so irritated when he doesn't get one. Please check what he smokes

[@MarioLacunza]

The caveman only finds out in round 9 that there are authorized cell phones recording in the game room? Is he an idiot?

[@sinking1902]

Kramnik is a meme monster! He’s the gift that just keeps on giving.

[@Vishal-]

So he has no problem with digital cameras but not phones on flight mode? Tell him, digital cameras *have both wifi & Bluetooth* , nowadays 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@sandrinjoy]

With bluetooth on phone, you can transmit data, and can do anything. Camera bluetooth& wifi is just for connecting phone and sending photos

[@govinddas7876]

@@sandrinjoy "...in phone you can transmit data" "Camera Bluetooth and WiFi is just for connecting phone and sending photos" Sending photos is transmitting data you mug.

[@sandrinjoy]

@@govinddas7876 ya you play chess with it

[@sandrinjoy]

@@govinddas7876 supporting usage of phones at the chess playing halls. You really think it okay , idiot

[@geert574]

The Grinch is counting the days to steal christmas

[@sushma7870]

He just can't accept our young guys are doing this. At top. He thinks Europeans should lead every where. Cry baby😢

[@prasadduvvuri8227]

What about the phones or phone like devices that are used to monitor blood sugar and heart rhythms for at risk chess players. Kramnik really needs to point the rules that were objectively violated; feelings are not facts.

[@mamaBucketvfx]

Karmnik really said, the 9th round is where i draw the line. 100s of camera all Olympiad but its the 9th round that matters😂

[@chandanpulavarthi8904]

Cameras also have bluetooth i guess. I am not a tech expert as Kramnik

[@vd.se.17]

But why the Vape had whistle?

[@laalBaadshahs]

First of all Someone should explain to Mr. Kramnik that Chessbase india is there as a media firm and is not related to team India any way . Secondly CBI has all approvals for the camera to be in there , and even if the mobile phones have communication capabilities how would it interact with the player if the players themselves don't have anything on them . Also given technology is so advanced how can he be so sure that the cameras dont have transmission capabilities. even my camera has a bluetooth and wifi feature on it . Its totally uncalled for

[@pritamupadhya3517]

Kramnik : "Obvious violation of FIDE rules". FIDE : "As per our regulations, It's allowed when we authorise it" Kramnik : "IT'S A VIOLATION OF YOUR REGULATIONS!"

[@drbharatbhushantelang3039]

Cameras also transmit the moves what he is talking about 😂😂

[@thewizard5060]

Kramnik was bored so he looking for something to do 😂. He think Gukesh wanna cheat before his World championship match? Come on... no one will be that stupid

[@rajsub3884]

There is no cheating as such if u understand if u just get clue that you are good position that enough for top players just slight clue will turn upside

[@capsubs1687]

Indian Government should ban Kramnik for life for drama

[@UnknownUser-j3n]

Listening to Kramnik is an obvious violation of sanity.

[@matthewfairchild3846]

Supernova11 in the comments like a Kramnik burner account 😭

[@aadesh7]

I mean you do have bluetooth and wifi on cameras too. Some cameras even have sim cards. Its about whether the device is approved or not. Nothing else should be relevant.

[@_sayan_roy_]

No, Kramnik does not have any point despite his fair minded and objective demeanor and rhetorics. The FIDE rule 12.8 allows phones authorised by arbiters which was done for ChessBase India's phones (ChessBase India is an old channel, which although is Indian is not affiliated to Indian players, and who has been using phones for all kinds of tournaments for a long time even if Indians don't play there for capturing multiple angles since they don't have budget for so many actual cameras (even dedicated cameras can transmit btw) and if not budget restrictions, it is for ease of convenience). Additionally, there are multiple other phones of other nationalities' photographers as well in the hall from round 1 itself, all of which are authorized by arbiters. We can reverse accuse Kramnik by saying these other phones are transmitting to Uzbek players, but that would still not violate 12.8. It's a nothing burger which is typical of Kramnik nowadays who makes a fool out of himself every now and then now, even if his chess contributions are great. Danya explained it perfectly in the FIDE chess stream minutes later Kramnik's interview if you listened to him, who was understandably annoyed with Kramnik and even Judith Polgar seemed mildly annoyed.

[@mohits499]

I think its objective is to distract the indan team from their games

[@tarunyadav3567]

It is allowed if the arbiters allow it but I agree that it should not be allowed period since you can use camera's instead

[@josiahmacfarlane4344]

I would agree in theory, however, almost all professional cameras that capture video indoors overheat. Some don't but those are more expensive/unavailable in some areas, and while I don't completely like the idea of phones, it they are the option that won't overheat during the day, then that's the option that should be used. Also, the Fide rules state: "Unless authorised by the arbiter, it is forbidden for anybody to use a mobile phone or any kind of communication device in the playing venue or any contiguous area designated by the arbiter."

[@tarunyadav3567]

@@josiahmacfarlane4344 Idk much about camera's so I can't say Anyway modified camera's can be used to cheat so maybe my point is moot

[@_sayan_roy_]

@@josiahmacfarlane4344 Very well said. Also, we can reverse accuse Kramnik in that case and any team saying they are also getting transmissions since Sagar and ChessBase India are not the only people with phone cameras in the hall. Many different photographers from different nationalities have them due to budget restrictions, battery issues, ease of convenience, and overheating issues. If rule is to be challenged then Kramnik should challenge the rule before the tournament and not saying baseless things like it violated the rule especially during a crucial match when no violation took place, and he doesn't know the rule 12.8 itself. BTW, even cameras can transmit information nowadays and if phones can have in-built stockfish to calculate the moves without sim cards, then so can modified processors in cameras if enough funding and resources are put in. So, remove any electronics, I guess. Where does the paranoia end ?

[@AnHonestDoubter]

I was on team Kramnik until he started (very ironically) associating with chess cheater Hans.

[@ItsAsparageese]

The boomers-think-all-tech-is-bad gambit! What a move!

[@jeevanshirodkar2581]

When India is moving ahead at No. 1 position then all will complain about violation. When other countries are ahead of India then it is fairplay.

[@isqueirus]

Just block them and make the procedure!

[@v4l4r_m0rghul15]

Let the man vape for everyone's sake!

[@95octavian]

Ok I'd respect it if he actually wanted to protect his team because something like a phone can be quite distracting but he did say so much bullsh*t that its hard tp believe that

[@PintuDharaLive]

It's a mind game

[@abcdefg123401]

Although he is being salty but he does have a point here . Either phones are banned or they are not . Not saying Chess Base India is at fault , its the Chess rules that should be critical about everything . I mean when they can ban Russians just coz their President went nuts and goes to war , then they should stick to no phones allowed without any conditions

[@legowtham]

From the previous Vaishali interview video, I bet Mike is somewhere happy about this complaint against Chessbase India. Lol

[@wydadiyoun]

I personally have won a chess game in real life tournament with muuuuuch lower stakes just because my opponents phone ringed!

[@thinboxdictator6720]

Yes. That's something different tho.

[@lordofblood2024]

"My Opponents phone". Their opponents has no phone. We r talking about a private youtube channel who was recording the game by phones. Chessbase India and Indian chess team r two different entities.

[@rtos]

@@wydadiyoun The sim card is removed for clearing these phones. No calls likely

[@Sagar_Rajput2005]

Kramnik thinks fide is not capable of checking mobiles and other things , only he can do that.

[@latharaghavan7442]

Bro Kramnik you are skeptical not the mobile phone .

[@sahilbhardwaj441]

Can someone please explain to Kramnik that modern digital cameras can have installed applications and have a similar computation power to a mobile phone.

[@hobomanslaughter]

This pleases me gentlemen. Your move mr bond

[@rambot670]

I have newfound respect for Shri Vishwanathan Anand Ji after watching other great chess players lose their mind such as Kramnik. It was Kramnik's motivation that kept Vishwanathan Anand sir going. An irony, and a past, friendly face of Kramnik.

[@christinemurray1444]

Sagar Shah is not part of the Indian delegation. Every camera has a powerful computer these days, anti cheating is making sure players don't get assistance, not preventing the presence of computers in the venue because then you wouldn't be able to broadcast the event.

[@mohammedshoaib1774]

Kramnik just keeps finding new ways to lose respect.

[@ce19harendrasingh89]

Guys there is 15 minutes delay in actual game and streaming how can someone cheat with that phone

[@theearth4529]

15 minutes is not very much

[@ce19harendrasingh89]

@@theearth4529 It is very much Even 1 second can decide endgame

[@theearth4529]

@@ce19harendrasingh89 you don't know what you are talking about, 15 minutes is obviously not enough as they spend a lot more than that on some moves

[@mariarosenadsouza]

Looks like Kramnik has never used a digital Camera. Even digital cameras have fully functional communication via WiFi and Bluetooth

[@anjanazaveri4403]

He can't digest his inefficiency that his team is loosing under his coaching.

[@j.t.9175]

Love this energy 😂 Hikaru is such a sweet guy. For him to get this mad says something lolol

[@intercalz]

Crymnik now has another job - Airport security screener at Tashkent.

[@dr.daigoroitto991]

technically a e-cigarette can also be modified to a transmitter of "moves"

[@maggie_4321]

Kramnik is messing with wrong country. 😂😂😂 If the hornet nest is rattled, just imagine the billions of dislikes, negative comments, booing, cancel culture, boycott etc

[@boogieman6529]

He can make good money out of it and get very popular too

[@maggie_4321]

@@boogieman6529 what about his mental health. Indians are the most stubborn kind of people in both good as well as bad ways

[@NickMaovich]

VB slowly but steadily descending into madness

[@planet23k]

Kramnik singing: Don't you know the property is theft? Now you're under arrest Cus I got nothing left Oh baby Don't you know the property is theft? Ah-ah Oh no! Hikaru! (exchange Hikaru for any other player that currently "cheats", according to Kramnik) For the context and the song look up "Mikaeli hitting metal day 94" (and "Property is theft" as well : D), it's great and eerily funny : D

[@pritamchavan20]

Kramnik making his own rules for fide and expecting other to follow it 🤣 I truly appreciate this man for all the things he has done for chess. But you can’t ignore the fact that he’s so whiny 🤣

[@steliosioannou4996]

he is correct,we have rules or not?i do not understand

[@idkname-i7z]

Exactly..we have rules..n everything was within it.. He is just upset that the rules didn't allow his cigarette inside 😂😂

[@rimurutempest2130]

As per rules recording devices are approved and allowed for media to cover matches

[@jamestrujillo5195]

Kramnik is going BEYOND THE PROCEDURE

[@jeprotable]

Kramnik is making sense

[@Timhsa_25]

Your mom also make sense.

[@rimurutempest2130]

How ? Don't you read rules for Media person

[@alexj835]

A phone without WiFi or SIM card is called a.. wait for it…. CAMERA!! Modern cameras are more dangerous than a smart phone with no connection.

[@DavidPittelkow]

Kramnik has a point a lot of people use phones to cheat in chess these days engines people wake up

[@jasond.personal5433]

How about Kramnik learns to follow "basic rules" and not accuse people of unproven wrongdoing without pre-warning others of his own mental illness?

[@c.c.1197]

Vladimir "I mean Karen" Kramnik

[@pritysingh6446]

Kramnik 😂😂😂

[@rishabguptabfapainting3817]

Kramnik has not only lost his prime but also his mind😂😂

[@TyrannosaurusCHEX]

The point he is making, that a lot of players seem to be missing and treating it as some sort of declaration of war against all of India, is that it is a REALLY bad idea to relax these rules for any reason - sure maybe Shah might be an honourable commentator but this is the thin end of the wedge and theres a lot of cheaters who would seek to abuse the ability to have any sort of Bluetooth devices in the playing area if they see it being allowed like this (and, no, fide cannot be trusted to police it all the time)

[@ajaykumar-ve5oq]

do professional cameras don't have bluetooth I'm sure some have it

[@ridermayank-u4r]

He is a straight up 😺 Plain and simple 😂 playing mind games

[@t0lis654]

Kramnik making Phantasy again

[@ajaykumar-ve5oq]

and how are those flipped cameras helping tho?

[@Vbio-m5q]

Mike just a question, did you also report on the Egyptian player who lost due to the sim card situation? Or was this the first case of someone talking on unauthorized objects that you're reporting on during this olympiad? Just curious why Kramnik has been given so much importance when part of the journalist's responsibility is to show both sides - interview arbiter on the stickers on the phones, point that out to Kramnik or even just post both sides point of view side by side on the same day.

[@slylataupe4272]

Any electronic device could lead to cheating, a camera as well. Think twice before talking Kramnik would be my advice

[@BrennenChua]

Special exemptions lead to problems in the future. It would've been more prudent if chessbase simply used ordinary digicams.

[@ankush-89]

@@BrennenChua Can you send this request to organisers ? Are you sure other media sources covering matches are not doing so ? Special exemptions …lol

[@BrennenChua]

@@ankush-89 rules: no phones Special Exemptions: chessbase, other media sources covering the match Easy to understand, no?

[@ankush-89]

@@BrennenChua It is easier to understand if you go through rules and talk , then just talk . No ? Blame the organisers if they ain’t following any rules . It is their job to safeguard the game . Its not like a shopping mall frisking my friend . Gudday !!

[@BrennenChua]

@@ankush-89 who's giving special exemptions? The organizers. So yes, I'm blaming the organizers. I didn't say cb India is wrong, I'm saying they could've been more prudent to avoid such things. Being prudent is a good thing.

[@ankush-89]

@@BrennenChua They thoroughly check each n every device which is allowed inside . There are always some people in the world who will complain about everything . Btw Kramnik dint even file an official complaint. Sums up my whole point . Just having a healthy conversation. Gudday buddy

[@LordArishem2008]

Kramnik was just scared that India would destroy Uzbekistan like the others and they would have no chance of medal so he tried to find a loophole to save Uzbekistan.. if he actually had problems with phones only he would have pointed it out long ago..

[@menuaunoe8237]

Where Kramnik is right is we need an asmr chess in a glass box

[@Timmichanga361]

This guy is absurd and has truly damaged his place in history. If the phone was transmitting info to players...the players would have to have a way to receive that info and there is zero evidence of that either

[@k1llerp0tato94]

If Kramnik really cared about the players, he could have complained earlier or after the game He saw an opportunity to disrupt the flow state of Indian players and took it. It was not wrong of him to complain, but when and how he did it, clearly had malicious intent and cunning behind it.