VMO Strengthening/Activation Exercises (Necessary/Possible to Isolate the Vastus Medialis Obliquus?)

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E3 Rehab

E3 Rehab

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@E3Rehab
@E3Rehab 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching! Check out our newest video on what to do for patellofemoral pain! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWSrqXVsp6aYetE
@jimluvweng
@jimluvweng 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the link to this study?
@pianofairy14
@pianofairy14 3 жыл бұрын
Please, do a separate video on patellofemoral pain syndrome! My knee just doesn‘t get better... :(
@AskBradFischer
@AskBradFischer 3 жыл бұрын
Well interesting topic and I’m trying to figure out a recent injury running to first base. I injured my lower quad area about 4 inches above the center of my kneecap. I’m not sure what muscle or tendon it is that made a light popping noise. Your thoughts would be appreciated? Thank you
@vanillaglue
@vanillaglue 3 жыл бұрын
valgus knee injuries, adductors, deep 6 muscles, rectus femoris please!
@OscarDiaz-qg7jm
@OscarDiaz-qg7jm Жыл бұрын
I believe you addressed VMO strengthening very professionally. Most of exercises advised are difficult to perform initially. Is there a routine you can start with and gradually increase range or strength? Thank you in advance for your response Oscar Diaz from Chicago
@mamawelder
@mamawelder 2 жыл бұрын
One problem with that advise is if you already have patella pain you physically cannot do any of those deep knee squats, weighted step ups or deep sissy squats. You have to start out at wherever your knees allow you to without pain. Which means less bend and shorter range.
@TheCarpentersDaughterUK
@TheCarpentersDaughterUK Жыл бұрын
agree
@jojomunz4790
@jojomunz4790 Жыл бұрын
Try the Reverse Step ups with elevated heels.
@jojomunz4790
@jojomunz4790 Жыл бұрын
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@mamawelder
@mamawelder Жыл бұрын
@@jojomunz4790 can you elaborate? I’m interested.
@jojomunz4790
@jojomunz4790 Жыл бұрын
@@mamawelder I do them myself, mind you Im not native speaker. Theres 3 versions of the reverse stepups. Basically its a unilateral stepping downward motion replicated specifically to target the VMO, meaning vastus medialis obliquus which is rarely well stimulated though crucial for healthy knees. The most applicable and pragmatic way is doing it on any stairways available. One leg rests on the stair, toes pointed straight forward (no tibial rotation meaning toes to left or right). The other leg is raised and flexed permanently, so that you train extention on the working leg as well as flexion on the passive leg. Contract your glutes and extend your working knee (the one that you unilaterally stand on) until the flexed passive leg‘s heel touches the next lower step of the stairway. Always keep your working knee over the 3th/4th toe meaning your toes/foot supinated. This is the first progression. 4 sets per 10-15 reps, rest 2 min in between. For the second progression you need some kind of wedge or shim which is shown in the linked video. ATG does sell very well factured ones. The oerformance is the same except that now your extending knee’s foot rests on the wedge/shim so that your dorsiflexion exhibits a different angle, so that your knee inevitably goes way over your toes in a very very comfortable manner. Youll notice an insane activation of the vastus medialis if 1. you keep your knee over your 3/4th toes 2. Keep your glutes engaged all the time and your upper body as upright as possible (if you hinge you lose the activation of VMO immediately and your rectus femoris and vastus lateralis get targeted) 3. do the extension at least 3 seconds, slowly and always with an engaged core and breathing (long exhale 4-6 seconds, short inhale 1-2 seconds) and flexion 1 second. A very useful location to orsctice this variation is a slope or hillslide so that you do not require this specific wedge or shim to apply under your foot. The 3rd version is the hardest one cuz it targets your profound muscles which stabilize you against rotation and other lateral forces. You combine both progressions so that you 1. stand unilaterally and raise other leg 2. raise the calf muscles of your standing leg whilst extending the knee with an upright torso and flexed glutes so that your heel is off the stair and your whole body weight rests on your forefoot 3. keep extending and balancing until your other flexed leg‘s heel touches the lower stair in front of you and immediately return to the basic stance. This is the Poliquin (?) reverse stepup. Terms might be messed up.
@hamzavanderross1235
@hamzavanderross1235 3 жыл бұрын
You guys provide some of the most insightful and professionally produced content on the Web! Thank you so much
@E3Rehab
@E3Rehab 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jamesbernards8409
@jamesbernards8409 3 жыл бұрын
You just stopped me right in my tracks of researching how to preferentially isolate and activate my VMO to combat tendonitis on the medial, posterior side of my knee. Thank you for the good work and you just earned a sub
@Stereotypee
@Stereotypee 3 жыл бұрын
what exercises are you doing in your rehab for knee pain?
@Syed-wj4pj
@Syed-wj4pj 2 жыл бұрын
nice. How are you doing now? Did you have knee cap popping??
@frankfromupstateny3796
@frankfromupstateny3796 2 жыл бұрын
Now....get some specific exercises by watching the "knee over Toe guy", on UTube. You're welcome!
@tommyshebell2645
@tommyshebell2645 2 жыл бұрын
Did you end up figuring out what was wrong with you knee? I stopped running 2 months ago because of some pain in my medial, posterior section of knee. Well I believe I have figured it out. Pes Anserine Tendinopathy. It is where three hamstring muscles connect over the pes Anserine Bursa in the knee. I have just started Romanian DL, laying down hamstring curls (light) and Bulgarian split squat and so far I think it is helping. Still a dull pain after going for a walk but I’m hoping to get back running soon. I’d research Pes Anserine Tendons and see what comes up
@waterprosurge
@waterprosurge Жыл бұрын
​@@tommyshebell2645are you back to running?
@lifelovesme
@lifelovesme 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love when you bust long-standing myths and gives us more-correct information (until that’s busted as newer-still research emerges). Thank you !
@tudoramr8432
@tudoramr8432 Жыл бұрын
Man, you saved my life. I love your channel. God bless you! For real.
@calisthenicsindia8498
@calisthenicsindia8498 3 жыл бұрын
The knees over toes guy does huge rage of motion in his exercises
@slee2695
@slee2695 3 жыл бұрын
As a long leg/short torso guy, i solved my knee pain by focusing more on quads like lunges, front squats, leg extensions, etc
@Twistedbullsh1t
@Twistedbullsh1t 3 жыл бұрын
What was your pain from?
@slee2695
@slee2695 3 жыл бұрын
@@Twistedbullsh1t basketball
@Twistedbullsh1t
@Twistedbullsh1t 3 жыл бұрын
@@slee2695 i should of been more specific. What was your injury?***
@joshdennison5777
@joshdennison5777 3 жыл бұрын
@@Twistedbullsh1t i dont think he had an injury. It was just wear and tear on the knees from having long levers and not properly compensating for it.
@TroyBrownTV
@TroyBrownTV Жыл бұрын
I have no injuries. I just like these physical science breakdowns
@airheather
@airheather 3 жыл бұрын
Progressive knee pain / limited ROM that seemed to be untreatable is now more functional (it’s better at 50 yrs than it was when I was 45!) with big muscle-group lifting. I appreciate your video confirming this!
@sampejke
@sampejke Жыл бұрын
Great. I got injured because of lifting. Feels like I could have been very healthy if I had never lifted
@andreyzubkov8435
@andreyzubkov8435 Жыл бұрын
Was looking to strengthen VMO to prevent cramps after very active snowboard sessions. Thanks for all the advice.
@C0C023a
@C0C023a 3 жыл бұрын
You are simply amazing and so underrated! Love you videos and thank you so much for your research and and efforts! This is what I am looking for! Keep up the great work and stay AWESOME!
@kaitango
@kaitango 3 жыл бұрын
I work as an orthopedic PA. I noticed in most of the exercises your knees riding are over the toes, which is contrary to the form I've been taught. Now you have WAY more knowledge in rehab than I do for sure, so I'd just love your thoughts on that :) Thanks for your informative, evidence-based video!
@Mikebenson141
@Mikebenson141 3 жыл бұрын
That myth was based on 1 study in the 70’s and was debunked about 20 years ago. Scary you don’t know that as a PA
@E3Rehab
@E3Rehab 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Kai. Thank you so much for approaching the topic in such a professional and respectful manner. It is okay for the knees to the pass the toes while squatting. If I'm really trying to emphasize loading the quads and/or patellofemoral joint complex, I'll actually encourage someone to drive their knees forward more. If someone has a symptomatic knee, temporarily reducing the amount of knee flexion is one strategy that may be helpful. Summary - yes, it's fine/normal. Depending on your goals, you may want more or less.
@averyladwig6257
@averyladwig6257 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mikebenson141 what myth?
@iwantlee9510
@iwantlee9510 2 жыл бұрын
That's a dumb myth.
@johnwig285
@johnwig285 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mikebenson141 what's even scarier that ure tryna sound smart without even linking ur source. Dude's a PA, not a Doctor or Physical Therapist ffs
@jackiealv6547
@jackiealv6547 4 ай бұрын
Excellent information but I’ve been diagnosed with condromalacia patella and my knees hurt with squatting and lunging not to mention adding weight , all the things I did up until the pain was unbearable and the MRI confirmed the damage of the cartilage behind the patella. The VMO strengthening exercises that my PT has recommended are working and I’m in less pain and better mobility
@RahulYadav-dd7qe
@RahulYadav-dd7qe 21 күн бұрын
Yupp, I also don't understand how can one do squats, lunges etc, when the doctor mentions to do otherwise. These PTs should be careful recommending exercises as in your case, it can lead to more degradation.
@smirnovTri
@smirnovTri Жыл бұрын
Great video. Ive been dealing with VMO problems for several years, and get the same opinion. Thank you
@jawzzy3
@jawzzy3 3 жыл бұрын
Great video... Got a wicked case of PFPS from cycling and was given a release VL/strengthen VMO protocol from my physio to no avail. One day I said screw it and went back to the gym and did full barbell squats, deadlifts, and the like legs day. Knee mechanics felt immediately better afterwards! Releasing and stretching the rectus femoris (couch stretch) and knee swings to circulate the fluid were a huge help also.
@joshhazel742
@joshhazel742 10 ай бұрын
This is happening to me.. I have lateral patella tracking and my pt wants me to strengthen vmo and release tension from lateral muscles.. should I just start doing normal compound movements with good form?
@jawzzy3
@jawzzy3 10 ай бұрын
@@joshhazel742I didn’t have any success with the “strengthen vmo, release VL” protocol. What helped me overcome this is 1. Avoiding triggers (mostly sitting for too long) 2. Knee swings sitting on edge of kitchen counter multiple times per day (100s per day) 3. Releasing the rectus femoris via barbell quad smash (roll it up and down) (foam rolling was too intense for me) and regular couch stretches for 2+ minutes 4. Looking for strength and flexibility imbalances up and down the chain (found I had a really tight outer hip on the problem knee side) Good luck 👍
@jawzzy3
@jawzzy3 10 ай бұрын
@@joshhazel742 also, walking more (10k+ steps per day), consistent hydration, good nutrition, etc seemed to help
@rehabilitace_bez_hranic
@rehabilitace_bez_hranic 7 ай бұрын
Damn, such solid video! Lot of effort behind it. I'm glad I found your channel. Definetly gonna follow it for more EBM knowledge :) Thank You
@briandebaets3041
@briandebaets3041 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT video! Thank you for putting work in and making this thorough.
@geekvargen9824
@geekvargen9824 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video. You are conveying the message in a very efficient way. With the references you are using and displaying it's obvious that you have done your research, super solid content mate. Thank you for taking the time to do this. It feels like you got my back. I have subscribed and will look through your other videos and look for tips on how to fix my lateral meniscus tear + anterolateral extra-articular ganglion cyst pain.
@christofferbrandel6491
@christofferbrandel6491 3 жыл бұрын
I really like how this channel present information. I'm going to start doing reverse nordic after seeing your other video!👍
@anaszamel7912
@anaszamel7912 3 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot, your info is really great and your timestamp videos and overall comprehensive
@chasviking
@chasviking 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that concise and informative presentation! The best video on the subject I have seen backed by science.
@tomkramer6587
@tomkramer6587 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. I really appreciate your evidence-based approach!
@filukkasunivers2389
@filukkasunivers2389 3 жыл бұрын
ok sir, but when you have a bad knee you can NOT do the exercises you suggest
@witch_hour7042
@witch_hour7042 3 жыл бұрын
Baby steps man
@Tahiha
@Tahiha Жыл бұрын
Ironically leg extensions -- which they tell you not to do if you have bad knees-- have literally cured my bad knees. I couldn't climb stairs or bend without sharp pain. Much less squat. After 4 years of weight training I am now lifting 100lb on leg extensions, running stairs with weights, doing bulgarian split squats, and squatting parallel and below. With zero pain.
@mannysingh768
@mannysingh768 Жыл бұрын
@@Tahiha ma'am can you please tell me the exercises you did for knee
@pokemonbacon1237
@pokemonbacon1237 Жыл бұрын
@@mannysingh768 nah I won’t
@lati_da
@lati_da Жыл бұрын
If you have knee issues you can watch the knees over toes guy for all of his exercises
@pedromiranda2356
@pedromiranda2356 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the scientific research evidence on this topic. I had an ACL surgery one year ago (pattelar tendon graft) and i am being unable to build my VMO - Phisioteraphy and gym are not showing expressive results on it. As a skateboarder since a child i always had my left leg weaker than the right leg, even before ACL accident, so i think this might be even another reason for struggling to build VMO again, but i won't give up - thank you again for hte motivation !!
@user-fu5ib8no3b
@user-fu5ib8no3b 2 жыл бұрын
How is your knee? Have you strengthened your VMO ?
@Bakamiloto
@Bakamiloto 3 жыл бұрын
very informative. thank you! keep uploading you deserve a subscriber
@toniportenier4374
@toniportenier4374 3 жыл бұрын
OMG!Thank you so much I have been waiting for a video on this. Could send me the video on reverse NordicTrack, and quad strength building. Happy new years to you .
@mutlaqalsubaie7409
@mutlaqalsubaie7409 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you do a video about " patella alta rehab"
@319jmp
@319jmp 3 жыл бұрын
Your studies may show one thing but I can confirm that wide stance leg press and pushing the knees outward during the contraction does preferentially target mine and others vastus medialis. Likewise, a narrow stance, with foot and knee turned slightly inward, preferentially targets my vastus lateralis.
@jonatanvenema6884
@jonatanvenema6884 3 жыл бұрын
Always good to see someone actually substantiate with research! Great advice
@KatsKettlebellDojo
@KatsKettlebellDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was a very helpful video!
@nikitaw1982
@nikitaw1982 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation thank you.
@datastories143
@datastories143 5 ай бұрын
I have to say that this video is irrelevant for Patello Femoral Syndrome as those exercise are just not possible with the pain caused by PFS. I have a stage 4 PFS and the only thing that helped me have a normal life again was to work on the atrophy of the VMO by isolating it and using electro stimulation with Compex, also work on the glutes, metatarsal muscles and the roller as shown in this video. This video should not mention the FPS or pain as it's definitely won't help you fix it.
@HJOTech
@HJOTech 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you cannot isolate the VMO, yet I noticed that I can flex my right quad and can feel my VMO defined yet on my left quad I don't seem to get the same "activation" or definition. And of course my left knee is where I have the most pain due to patella not tracking properly. I wonder how that's possible.
@raymond3903
@raymond3903 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the knowledge
@frankfromupstateny3796
@frankfromupstateny3796 2 жыл бұрын
Men/women and kids....start "walking backwards to strengthen the front or anterior chamber of the leg....the "shin" area....as related to walking and running over time.
@simonsilva250
@simonsilva250 3 жыл бұрын
great video as always
@RyanC232
@RyanC232 Жыл бұрын
I just didn't "feel" like what my PT was saying was true. Trying to do air squats with a ball between my legs or foot rotated out straight leg lifts. It didn't seem right for sports conditioning. Glad I could get educated today.
@samt73
@samt73 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your explanation on this. I ran a marathon as part of an ironman triathlon almost 10 years ago and started to run again a few months later having stopped cycling and had terrible PF pain, it's stopped me running for more than 20 mins for the last 9 years. I went to the physio in 2018 who identified the issue correctly, said it was weak VMO and prescribed bodyweight squats. After months of this I barely saw an improvement so haven't run properly since. A few years later I started training barbell squats, only about 50% bodyweight, as strength and conditioning for rock climbing, and noticed I could run down hill again for the first time in years. After 2 months of squatting once a week I can now run for 3 hours with minimal knee discomfort and look forward to getting back into running long distance again. I've signed up for a 2 day ultra marathon at the end of the year and wish I'd discovered it sooner! Do you think physiotherapists don't like to suggest people do weighted exercises because they think people are more likely to train bodyweight exercises at home? Or is there a lack of understanding here? Thanks again
@brunogamboa6591
@brunogamboa6591 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video, huge help!
@DrGammaMindset
@DrGammaMindset 6 ай бұрын
Great Post
@davidschulman4598
@davidschulman4598 3 жыл бұрын
I do find when I do super deep squats, heel elevated etc. I get an amazing pump right in my VMO teardrop area, so from experience I'd personally say its probably doing a better job of targeting my VMO.
@HPKazan
@HPKazan 3 жыл бұрын
Platz Squats are devastating for that purpose! Need to do more of those.
@tkats9673
@tkats9673 2 жыл бұрын
Me as well, for me it does target my VMO alot more with my heel elevated as I feel it burning.
@jsweetness5
@jsweetness5 2 жыл бұрын
So when you are below 90 degrees at the knee what muscle of the quad activates first! Say a catcher in baseball
@Nixs778
@Nixs778 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video! Really helpful
@mohammedaffanahmed8832
@mohammedaffanahmed8832 3 жыл бұрын
Great resource presentation and explanation ❤️, Subscribed 👍, a final year physiotherapy student from India ❤️.
@E3Rehab
@E3Rehab 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sammelina12
@sammelina12 3 жыл бұрын
But my fear is that when I do squats/lunges/steps, my knee makes a grinding/clicking noise. There’s no pain most of the time (sometimes on the inner knee), but I don’t want to make it worse. 😢
@tsepomarobani9085
@tsepomarobani9085 2 жыл бұрын
yh bro I can relate, its like you seem to know its getting better so you ignore the fact of doing squats etc... really bc of the fear it might start playing up again in the long run. I had a MRI scan they said there nothing wrong with my knee
@user-fu5ib8no3b
@user-fu5ib8no3b 2 жыл бұрын
@@tsepomarobani9085 my MRI was fine too but my knee still buckles and I feel my VMO is weak. How is your knee now?
@laurarhodes7193
@laurarhodes7193 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-fu5ib8no3b My doctor said my MRI results looked fine but I insisted on taking the images to a surgeon and found out there was an injury. If you haven't done so yet, I suggest taking it to a good orthopaedic surgeon. All the best.
@user-fu5ib8no3b
@user-fu5ib8no3b 2 жыл бұрын
@@laurarhodes7193 aw okay. My physio just said I can either see how time heals it or be referred for surgery because apparently the positioning of my knees is slightly out but I’m not really fussed on having surgery. I get a sharp pain in my medial/inner knee that comes after walking for a while but I kind of have given up now and I’m going to continue doing some strengthening exercises and hope for the best and that this pain will go away with time although it has been a year
@darkxkai5754
@darkxkai5754 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-fu5ib8no3b knees over toes guy on youtube might be able to help, he has a pretty good program too
@jamessethmoore
@jamessethmoore Ай бұрын
Thank you
@ahmadal-jafre3261
@ahmadal-jafre3261 3 жыл бұрын
Best vmo exercise is reverse sled drags, these have help me with my jumpers knees and also build my vmo
@Akashap22
@Akashap22 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video of recovering thigh atrophy after acl reconstruction
@tuffhellfire
@tuffhellfire 3 жыл бұрын
Have you found any good ones?
@sheenaanand6639
@sheenaanand6639 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video.thanks
@philipkim9779
@philipkim9779 3 жыл бұрын
This is great informative video. Thank you so much for sharing evidence based information🙏
@jean_pascalgrenier3125
@jean_pascalgrenier3125 3 жыл бұрын
Great content! Thank you!
@HolidayFortnight
@HolidayFortnight 3 жыл бұрын
TKE squats are also often prescribed to “bulletproof” the knees. I was curious if you had any opinions on that and whether training terminal knee extension in general is really as important as current theory suggests.
@E3Rehab
@E3Rehab 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be wary of anyone who claims that an exercise can "bulletproof" a joint (whatever that means). If you're recovering from an injury, training terminal knee extension might be helpful. Training terminal knee extension in isolation (like with a banded TKE) probably isn't all that important for most people.
@DRKIMJIHOON
@DRKIMJIHOON Жыл бұрын
AWESOME CHANNEL!
@vortexsophia
@vortexsophia 2 жыл бұрын
this was great, thank you
@JuanFlores-zv9nw
@JuanFlores-zv9nw 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video doctor thanks🎇🗽
@slowlydrifting2091
@slowlydrifting2091 2 жыл бұрын
How in the heck I’m I going to focus on dynamic lifts if I can’t do step ups or Patrick steps pain free. I have been doing VMO training from light rotation leg Lifts and the aforementioned Pilates ball exercises.
@mobilidade4269
@mobilidade4269 Жыл бұрын
excellent teachings. could have better lighting in the video.
@DavidDeeble
@DavidDeeble 3 жыл бұрын
Great content as always, guys.
@E3Rehab
@E3Rehab 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, David!
@DavidDeeble
@DavidDeeble 3 жыл бұрын
@@E3Rehab KZbin says you need comments I'll give you comments!
@cortezsb7727
@cortezsb7727 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of the Knees over toes guy? He claims his programs can bulletproof your knees and has a lot of great testimonies (including his own). One exercise in his program is body weight VMO squats. If you've heard of this program *(called ATG) I'd like to hear your thoughts
@hcp0scratch
@hcp0scratch Жыл бұрын
Well done!
@SecretAgentLamarScrotus
@SecretAgentLamarScrotus Жыл бұрын
When he said ball squeeze between the knees at 3:15 I felt that 😔
@dstod4481
@dstod4481 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about knee and elbow Hyperextension and how to fix it/if it’s even a bad thing when lifting?
@code5829
@code5829 3 жыл бұрын
never lockout your joints. keep constant tension on the muscle
@calisthenicsindia8498
@calisthenicsindia8498 3 жыл бұрын
Will watch tomorrow
@abdullahcivil3268
@abdullahcivil3268 3 жыл бұрын
Super physical therapist 😘😘
@dollySouthEastHuman
@dollySouthEastHuman 2 жыл бұрын
SUPER THANKS FROM PHILIPPINES 💕✌️🥰🇵🇭 for this video is this applicable for a stroke patient?
@francesstager997
@francesstager997 Жыл бұрын
I was very optimistic about your approach when I first discovered your channel! Citing papers and data is really helpful. However, I am NOT able to perform any of the exercises that you have demonstrated because of my knee issue! Where does that leave me??
@SnakeC666
@SnakeC666 3 жыл бұрын
great video!
@chriszod
@chriszod 8 ай бұрын
great video, try to lay things out more in simple terms, tho im very good with english, but i didnt understand anything in this video.
@johnnichols2710
@johnnichols2710 2 жыл бұрын
Change up foot placement even on leg extensions
@Leonidas-eu9bb
@Leonidas-eu9bb 2 жыл бұрын
you have healthy knee from what i observe. Your VMO looks big and defined. Your knees looks sharp with no fluid around the joint.
@pranavgautam96
@pranavgautam96 3 жыл бұрын
Then, how do I fix my Chondromalacia? It's been going on for 2 years now! Those exercises shown at the end are too heavy for me at the start.
@johnd.obrien6838
@johnd.obrien6838 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, would like to know what exercises we're supposed to do when we have damage to the cartilage under the patella.
@dayday1016
@dayday1016 3 жыл бұрын
Bro try walking backwards up a hill #kneeovertoesguy
@amritpalsidhu6454
@amritpalsidhu6454 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnd.obrien6838 i had a surgery for chondromalacia . And after 5 month i still can not walk fast . But know i cannot even raise leg while sitting on chair . Knee hurt . Started doing cycling 2 days ago hope i get better and taking collagen medicine or supplement and vitamin c
@joshhazel742
@joshhazel742 9 ай бұрын
Well.. what did y’all ever figure out?
@doubled6256
@doubled6256 Ай бұрын
Knees over toes guy's exercises hit the vmo hard and are specific.
@andrew.schaeffer4032
@andrew.schaeffer4032 3 жыл бұрын
Wow you researched the crap out of that. well done. Quick question - knees over toes program - what are your thoughts?
@triwrightfitness6894
@triwrightfitness6894 Жыл бұрын
This is all great except all of the strength building exercises you suggested hurt my knee ….. so where do I start? I’ve tried working through the pain and that only made things worse
@maksenDK
@maksenDK 2 жыл бұрын
I have had pain in my VMO for a year now. I don't know how the pain started, it was gradual. I went to a physiotherapist and he told me some exercises, but none of them have worked. I think I will look into these exercises. So tired of having pain.
@surgegv6033
@surgegv6033 Жыл бұрын
Has it worked?
@looktotheworldwithhope5464
@looktotheworldwithhope5464 2 жыл бұрын
I use NMES on VMO with ankle weight and last 15 degrees of leg extension to train VMO and keep it firing and strong. Works very well.
@hcp0scratch
@hcp0scratch Жыл бұрын
How do you know?
@looktotheworldwithhope5464
@looktotheworldwithhope5464 Жыл бұрын
@@hcp0scratch Personal experience
@hcp0scratch
@hcp0scratch Жыл бұрын
That's what I thought. No value to a one person, non-scientific study.
@looktotheworldwithhope5464
@looktotheworldwithhope5464 Жыл бұрын
@@hcp0scratch You're welcome!
@BlackSIH22
@BlackSIH22 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to recover from a quad tendon re- rupture in my left leg. I did both at the same time 20 years ago, but had a small mountain bike accident a year ago ( tried to do. Wheelie ) and ended up rupturing the left one again. This time in having some patellar tracking issues. When doing lockouts with a band behind my knee, my patella " clunks " back over into its groove. It only happens if I lockout my knee and then start to bend. I do have alot of atrophy and I need to get this under control. Im about 10-15 degrees off from being able to fully extend my leg to 180 degrees. I could use all the help I can get, thanks.
@brucedonnelly5209
@brucedonnelly5209 2 жыл бұрын
great vid
@DavidJones-qx5yf
@DavidJones-qx5yf Жыл бұрын
My patella femoral syndrome won't heal with vmo exercises. I know the problem lies in my hips because sometimes when I'm in bed lying on my side with my legs bent at about 90 degrees then I turn to lie on my opposite side, moving my top leg first, I feel my femur turn, at the same time my patella clicks over my femur head with a loud crack, also feeling at least one of my quads shift in a major way and instantly I have complete relief of my pfs . The problem is I can't keep it like this for more than a few days and I don't know what it is exactly that causes it to correct itself.
@mithudas1491
@mithudas1491 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u so much for this v d o
@renaatcasier9011
@renaatcasier9011 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Jvzz_
@Jvzz_ 9 ай бұрын
Split squats hurt alot when u have knee pain
@DebasisPoddar-qu9kp
@DebasisPoddar-qu9kp 5 ай бұрын
I have mild Osteoarthritis on my right knee . I was advised all those exercises what u call low level . Can I do running again if I perform the exercises recommend by u in this video ? Thanks in advance.
@bsimz008
@bsimz008 3 жыл бұрын
I have knee tendonitis and the VMO is one of the key muscles my doctor and pt recommended to work on, and I agree that working on my vmo alone is simply difficult and boring. I am a cycling enthusiast and I do try to incorporate other exercises like lunges and squats to my routine without fancy weights and machines. I tried jumping rope 2 weeks ago and I am still not fully recovered from that. I over did it. 2hrs++ jumping rope after an intense cycling of 30miles. 😂😂. I'll try out your suggestions. I can't afford another pt session. Last time it cost me almost $1k for several sessions
@user-fu5ib8no3b
@user-fu5ib8no3b 2 жыл бұрын
How is your knee now? Do you feel like you’ve strengthened your VMO?
@bsimz008
@bsimz008 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-fu5ib8no3b It's been a year since my last therapy. It did improve a lot. Losing some of the extra weight I gained thru the pandemic also made a huge positive impact.
@vivianeraw8448
@vivianeraw8448 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think swimming freestyle IS safe for someone with pattela dislocation trauma ? Currently i swim doing drills without flutter kicks i would like to incorporate kicking? This next month i m going to start strengthening my quads vmo
@user-fu5ib8no3b
@user-fu5ib8no3b 2 жыл бұрын
@@bsimz008 thats good! My pt isn't very helpful so I'm hoping these exercises will help strengthen my VMO. Since my patella dislocation nearly a year ago, I always experience pain in that area so hopefully this will help! - thanks for the response
@bsimz008
@bsimz008 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-fu5ib8no3b you're welcome!
@edwardomeza4022
@edwardomeza4022 Жыл бұрын
I tore my patella tendon over 2 years ago and the VMO’s atrophy has been a constant battle. Thanks for this video to stop me from just trying to isolate the VMO. Question I have no is, post surgery my patella is now higher. What can I do to get it to its original position. The pain from the pinch where the repair is tells my brain to deactivate my quad.
@isaiahbennett8113
@isaiahbennett8113 2 жыл бұрын
My pain usually goes away when I start doing squats or get warmed up
@scottmrodriguez
@scottmrodriguez 2 жыл бұрын
Great info! I’m a runner and have developed knee cap issues. Would you recommend the same approach? (Bigger range of motion movements)
@TommyShlong
@TommyShlong 3 жыл бұрын
Such excellent research based information!
@lymedog3176
@lymedog3176 8 ай бұрын
Knee over toe exercises will affect the VMO to a greater extent..ie people who regularly and are strong in the hack squat ,sissy squat, knee forward lunge and people who ass to grass squat… the norm is a well developed VMO on each leg.
@thedevil1667
@thedevil1667 3 жыл бұрын
Knee dislocation... Hurts like hell and after that you can't move for 2 months and then you lose muscle mass which makes it more likely to happen again... That was my life this past year...
@vivianeraw8448
@vivianeraw8448 2 жыл бұрын
How r u now? Did u heal?
@fabriziopiva6
@fabriziopiva6 3 жыл бұрын
How can we then train the quads in a single leg way without eliciting pain? Because those exercises that you propose at the end of your video are amazing, but if you have an imbalance in one leg, then the good leg is going to take over most of the load, making the exercise useless. Can you then mention some exercises that are single leg to strengthen the quads?
@-edvins.388
@-edvins.388 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, I absolutely love doing single-legged wall sits! It requires minimal equipment, hits the quads really well and is kind on the tendons in the knee! You can also easily load by adding a weight plate to your chest or increasing the time you sit depending on your goals.
@fabriziopiva6
@fabriziopiva6 3 жыл бұрын
@@-edvins.388 Thanks for the comment! Yes indeed that is a good exercise, I am planning to start doing it in partial ranges because until 90 degrees it seems to be a bit aggressive for my knee
@-edvins.388
@-edvins.388 3 жыл бұрын
@@fabriziopiva6 Ok. Sounds great. Please get back to me after a while and tell me how it is going!
@NEXTLEVELHEALTHwithTim
@NEXTLEVELHEALTHwithTim 7 ай бұрын
So what should we do if we have quad shutdown after injury/surgery? Quad exercises that don’t re-injure the knee?
@u5114043
@u5114043 Жыл бұрын
thank you a lot
@punji1977
@punji1977 3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on how to accelerate building VMO mass after a TPF injury and VMO atrophy ?
@knowledgeos
@knowledgeos 9 ай бұрын
great
@rhiannonmorgan-williams8575
@rhiannonmorgan-williams8575 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had right knee pain for over five years and finally had scans. Sports doctor says I have minor quad enthesopathy. I have pain everytime I squat to parallel, do lunges, knee tracks over the toes and step up. He says I have patella femoral problems. Issue is all the exercises that build vmo give me pain. Doing the passive exercises in this video doesn’t make the pain better or worse! I hate this just want to be pain free and be able to squat again! Any recommendations for exercises for patella knee pain?
@tsepomarobani9085
@tsepomarobani9085 2 жыл бұрын
Pray for healing
@roy6419
@roy6419 2 жыл бұрын
Check kneesovertoes guy, find where you are comfortable in training. For me I get least pain in deep squats which is odd but works for me and I build my muscles that way
@CarolSteinfeld
@CarolSteinfeld 3 жыл бұрын
My VMO is notably atrophied and my quads are solid
@sampejke
@sampejke Жыл бұрын
I got injured because of lifting and he says that I should lift to recover...
@blackjackool
@blackjackool 6 ай бұрын
My ortho diagnosed me with patellar tracking disorder and recommended physio therapy. I have a crunching sound when bending my knee completely but no pain. I had an ACL surgery last year and found this crunching sound when I returned to the gym after 8 months. What should I do? I want to be able to lift weights in the gym again.
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