Vocal Reverb Sidechain Trick

[@masteringcom]

If you want more detailed instructions for setting this up, watch this new video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sF7WeHlsZttseMU

[@DavidRosario69]

Like duck delay, but for reverb. Very useful technique.

[@joeypreston5851]

at first glance after a lifetime in this business, i would say you are an excellent, very experienced engineer. Its nice to see

[@jonathandaniels8751]

Does he know for sure that he loves her tho

[@vgabnd_kenji]

LMMFAO!!! It’s stained into my brain!

[@Malliboy]

LOLLLLL. :D

[@TheSeanpatrickobrien]

I doubt it

[@robstaylor4234]

I think he knows for sure

[@brettvogelmusic]

Right!! Lol

[@hawaiirealmedia5610]

When you first started it, I didn't like it. But after hearing it mixed in properly, I think it's a very useful technique. Thanks!!!!

[@hazardmouth]

i know for sure that I love this channel

[@brandontadday6288]

I’m gonna have to give this a go on a mix I’m working on at the moment. I’m finding it hard to get the atmosphere I want out of the studio reverb that the vocal track is being sent to but when I sent it to a hall reverb it just got too hazy for my liking (despite much preferring the vibe the hall reverb gave when compared to the studio reverb)

[@JansleyMusic]

This is a goldmine! Was trying to get Dustin Tebutt type vocals, and I think this is the technique!

[@thesuncollective1475]

Cool trick I'm gonna use it now..thanks!

[@twincircus]

Massive difference! Love it! Thanks so much!

[@Pensacola2]

Could you please leave a link to the artist/ song. Thanks for sharing the technique!

[@AllanGildea]

Gorgeous song and mix, thanks for the tutorial!

[@masteringcom]

Glad we could help!

[@wildhorse4262]

Love the technique itself, but interestingly enough I kind of preferred the 'drowned in reverb" sound in this track :/

[@nicebluejay]

agree

[@nrgao]

There’s a way to add that texture back at the end of the chain without losing the power of the vocal at the same time. It just entails a couple more steps from where he stopped here.

[@ffffffffffffff43]

@@nrgaocould you please elaborate? I really want that sizzling tail with light textured saturated reverb, but still side chained when the vocal is in full saing

[@goodnightgoodnight8661]

Just found your page. Love this!

[@janickagrayston1168]

Super, duper cool tactic. Thanks for sharing!

[@bastienb8355]

Great video once again ! Thanks !! If you have other side chain tricks i'm interested ! well done !!

[@Iamdanybazz]

This is a good technique

[@TheSynthnut]

Sidechaining has so many uses! One gripe though, it's a bit frustrating when you talk of listening to the reverb tail but keep speaking over the end of the vocal so we can't hear it!

[@jrpjazz]

Excellent tutorial. Thanks!

[@radofficial4672]

Mate you've got 13 plugins on your master... scary 👍😃

[@poorbastard5098]

Most of them are gain plugins and analyzers i think...

[@ecedorsay]

can we use this trick for synth n piano as well? evem guitars?

[@vecchiuz2143]

I ve try to Automate the decay time to achive something similar but Unfortunally this is not possible with seventh heaven.. I m going to try Your method for sure!

[@moz7130]

Great ..! In the end you write-automate that fader... and ✅

[@gabriellawilsson]

How come videos about vocal production have no vocal production?

[@bubblevest1544]

I’ve done this by bussing the reverb and compression to an auxiliary track , then set up another bus track with no output, then sidechained the compressor to the 2nd aux track with no output.

[@Compumon27]

Song name? On platforms?

[@gromlatv]

Thanks a lot, this is exactly what I was missing to finish my current track lol. When I tried to implement it, first I was thinking, wait a minute, isnt this very similar to using pre delay? So I experimented with using a lot of predelay first as that seemed a little easier and I was curious to find out if there is any difference or not. I had used some pre delay before but then I realized I needed a lot more and the problem of making the vocal sound too far away was already much better. But then when I tried to duck it anyway on top of my predelay, it sounded a lot better in terms of what i need to achieve. Cause my vocal is telling a story, so it is important that people can understand the words well. but at the same time I just love the sound of the reverb lol. Now I have ALMOST as much reverb as I fancy, but with a much clearer and easier to understand vocal at the same time

[@TheSeanpatrickobrien]

Lol

[@denizathan]

What is the name of this song? Couldn't find it.

[@drfleka]

This is useful for delay too right?

[@AndyLXT]

Thank you for the awesome guide! Did anyone find out the name of the song? Been trying to google the song but can’t find any information. Thanks!

[@harrymyers9208]

Hi there, I'm very new to sidechain compression. Would it make a difference if you were to put the compressor at the start of the fx chain? As in would you always want to put the compressor at the end chain when using sidechain compression? Thanks love your stuff very to the point!

[@jellomakesmehappy]

both could work but you have more control over the tail of the verb if you put the compressor after it. Putting the compressor before would allow you to control the signal going into the verb and then you would need to adjust the tail of the verb within the plugin itself. It's a little bit of a balancing act that could be avoided by putting the compressor after. However, both techniques would get the job done

[@IamProfessorO]

If you want the duck the reverb, then the compressor needs to go after the reverb

[@fredyrocazaurus8420]

Which song ? Sounds great !!

[@mekzema1]

can you add multiple compressor on the bus channel ?

[@JorgeAFerroJ]

🙌🏼🙌🏼 thank you!

[@trex1120]

Great video, thank you... Is that reverb a preset in the Seventh heaven plug in or is it your own and isf so can you tell me what it is?

[@shovon.mixnmore]

what song is this? would love to hear the full

[@blindguymcsqueezy50]

Key learnings: 1. Side chain your reverb so that it doesn’t muddy up the vocals 2. He didn’t share that he loved her.

[@Milesvincentmusic]

My question is : how do you sidechain the same reverb bus with compression sent to the main vocal to let’s say harmonies/octaves and background vocal tracks? Of course you can just make multiple busses with the same exact chain of reverb and compressor side chained to each octave, harmony and background vocal track, but is there a more efficient way?

[@jeowhi]

have you found the solution to this?

[@Milesvincentmusic]

@@jeowhi no! I’ve just been creating seperate buses with the same chain! It’s more work but it’s been doing the job.

[@jeowhi]

@@Milesvincentmusic i found a solution! what you can do is route all your vox tracks to a bus and add fx onto that bus. that way itll affect all your channels! also make sure that bus is sent to stereo out!

[@Dhattallguy]

Can I side chain it to my P.Compressor bus

[@MacReviewzOnline]

interesting. normally this is done with a dynamic EQ side chained. I guess the same thing in a way.

[@ddkade767]

Hi Rob. I'm afraid I agree with Hershey Bell, I couldn't follow you on this video at all either. Is there any chance you could clarify the routing for us please. You said, from the lead vocal, send the signal to the vocal verb channel, which you then called a AUX channel. You then went on to say via a bus? Where did the bus channel come from? Can you walk us through the routing process again please, as there are a few of us new to side chaining who are totally lost. Thanks a million.

[@masteringcom]

Sidechain tutorial to follow!

[@alovluqulle1347]

Thankkkkkkkkk youuuuuu🙏♥️

[@brightmoses9162]

Thank you

[@masteringcom]

Our pleasure!

[@8360ishan]

Also i want to know that when we take different takes so during mixing vocals when we play whole vocals of different takes it sounds like sometimes low volume somtimes high sometimes thin sometimes thck so how to make it similar or in level so that it can sound like one vocal take completely??p

[@ionlywantto]

Use volume automation or clip gain to keep levels consistent. If the vocals sound thin and then sometimes thick, it's probably because the position from the singer to the microphone is changing between takes so try to keep this consistent too :)

[@8360ishan]

Thnq buddy😃

[@toshiboyig]

That is exactly what compressors are made to do. Compress to make things all be a similar volume, adjust to the volume you want, add some volume automation to round off the edges and it should be good.

[@tommywin3359]

Waves vocal rider

[@8360ishan]

Sir i am reallyy your biggest fan and am following yu from very long time but i have so many problems and i have many questions to ask yu so my first question is that is it necassary that professional sound can only be obtained with costly equipments those analog types which we find in studios???? My second question is that plzzz pzlzzz plzzzz make video on how to make our vocals stand out i mean really standout like wide spacious 3d u know what i mean sir, and here standout means no panning and all no not that i really mean that how to make a single vocal which is ofcourse mono to sound like live not dead not straight..plz answer me back here in india there are many artist who wants to learn this secret tricks..

[@joeloesch1219]

Great sound, seems to be what I liked in a lot of Moody Blues vocal tracks, such as 'Gypsy." Did you put the delay back in? I wasn't sure if you just kept the side-chained reverb. BTW, here's that Moody's song; they doubled the vocal but I think that then they added some of your technique. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5nci5VoYpiHntk

[@8360ishan]

Hello sir am your biggest fan and i really have many many doubts plz help me and i promise i will be really greatful to yu..

[@FerutElCampeador]

Problem in this mix is the singer is hooked up to melodyne.

[@BukanIbuMu]

"I know for sure that I love youuuuuuuuuuuu"

[@teannarae7664]

Right? Almost makes the tutorial unlistenable lmao.

[@soundsbyfelix2341]

Evidence that you can't polish a turd, but you can try.

[@gcastroism]

Bkce , bit You flew by the most important part...the side chain, needs to be explained better.

[@hersheybell8444]

I like the technique and can see where it would be valuable. Not a big fan of your teaching though (sorry - but saying this to help you improve) - too much clicking around and not enough walking us through exactly what your process is. There's a lot of assumptions of what the listener may or may not know - for example, while I'm familiar with side-chain compression, I haven't used it much and would have appreciated more of an understanding of what exactly you were doing there. Again, like the technique but don't feel confident I could do it just watching this video. Take a look at some of MusicTechHelpGuy or Joe Gilder's videos - they really know how to teach and lead you through a discussion where at the end you feel like you could do it. Liked the video and hope to see more of your work in the future. Thanks.

[@masteringcom]

Thanks for the feedback, I'm trying to be more concise but I wouldn't want to do that at the cost of comprehension

[@hersheybell8444]

@@masteringcom I agree - its a delicate balance - you have a lot to offer and balancing that with effective communication will be a dynamite combo .. keep it coming!

[@PeterGreenProductions]

GRATITUDE! You don't get much & for no charge these days. Thanks for your great videos Rob, I will always learn something helpful.

[@Rebbedude]

What is the bussing scheme here? It goes quite fast and I have difficulty following what gets connected to what.

[@thangceu5757]

Thank you so much

[@DJCroGs]

Sounds worse with the sidechain imho

[@noahballou6350]

Jesus christ this song sucks. But thanks for the tutorial