Voice Coach Reacts | Jinjer | PISCES Live | Christi Bovee

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Veteran voice coach, Christi Bovee, reacts to her first hearing of Ukranian death metal band, Jinjer, in their live recording of "Pisces", and deconstructs both the song and lead singer Tatiana's performance.
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@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Community contributions link is HERE: kzbin.info_video?ref=share&v=AZc6_5z4FUg Thanks in advance to anyone who would like to translate this video.😍
@enlightendbel
@enlightendbel 5 жыл бұрын
Jinjers label doesn't tend to CPY claim videos reacting to their music, especially not Jinjer. The reaction videos have boosted their popularity in the past 2-3 years from a fantastic scene band to an up and comer to the mega festivals. They know that and respect that. If you want to hear more of her range and talent, Teacher Teacher and I Speak Asrtonomy are a good start with more digestible tunes for metal virgins. There are also some of their songs where she sings clean all the way through too.
@enlightendbel
@enlightendbel 5 жыл бұрын
Also, they aren't really a death metal band. They are Nu, Prog and Death. But mostly Prog Metal, they switch styles and pace and singing and everything else up often several times in the same song. All 4 band members are masters of their instrument and highly creative people, which shows in how different every single one of their songs is.
@erickknutz5599
@erickknutz5599 5 жыл бұрын
@@enlightendbel I think a decent recommendation for one of her more clean vocals would be Bad Water. Of course, my favorite is Who Is Gonna Be The One... but she DID say that style isn't her cup of tea ;-)
@enlightendbel
@enlightendbel 5 жыл бұрын
@@erickknutz5599 Teacher Teacher goes far and wide with the cleans and still has some frye screams mixed in between, it shows her versatility as a singer best tbh. For a vocal teacher seeing someone flip rapidfire between the styles is probably interesting to analyze and admire.
@sabri2136
@sabri2136 5 жыл бұрын
can u do teacher teacher for junjer please
@ProdbyJORJ.
@ProdbyJORJ. 5 жыл бұрын
People reacting to jinjer is my new hobby!
@rhyslee4891
@rhyslee4891 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@puteraslayer
@puteraslayer 5 жыл бұрын
Yup love it her reaction is awesome.
@PlebstersPictionary
@PlebstersPictionary 5 жыл бұрын
another parrot
@kiyokomori371
@kiyokomori371 5 жыл бұрын
Its like one of those spring loaded snakes in a can. You just sit back and wait for them to take the top off.
@itsmeagain1745
@itsmeagain1745 5 жыл бұрын
@@kiyokomori371 Love this comment - it's sooooo true
@chrispbacon3084
@chrispbacon3084 5 жыл бұрын
Tati, Shattering peoples reality since 2009.
@skullduggery1616
@skullduggery1616 5 жыл бұрын
Chris P Bacon, that's one of the best lines posted by Jinjerite!! Hysterical and true all at the same time!
@PuppetMaster-Blade
@PuppetMaster-Blade 5 жыл бұрын
2010, she didnt join jinjer until 2010.
@rizzierizriz
@rizzierizriz 4 жыл бұрын
That sound like as if she were 10 years old LOL
@olabergvall3154
@olabergvall3154 5 жыл бұрын
I liked that, despite this not being your thing, you recognised what talent went into this performance. Kudos to you for that ❤
@bfmvloverhxc
@bfmvloverhxc 5 жыл бұрын
She is the first person who has reacted to this that I've seen actually comment about the drummer, which is funny because this live performance was specifically to showcase their new drummer and how talented he is! Lol
@Rippthrough
@Rippthrough 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't think there's anyone in that band that's a weak link, you sit there and listen to them all, and every single player is right at the top of their game here. You just don't notice it quite as much as she still manages to overshadow the band a little.
@bfmvloverhxc
@bfmvloverhxc 5 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah! The guitar is nice and tight the drums are on point she is absolutely amazing, this is better than any "super group" I've ever heard!
@MrHws5mp
@MrHws5mp 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I've heard another reacter mention the drummer - Alex Hefner's mate (Austin?) maybe?
@coolcat838
@coolcat838 5 жыл бұрын
The reaction to this song by the channel “Lucy Reacts” gives commentary on the drumming. Lucy is also a dog 🐕
@markusnaher56
@markusnaher56 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and he's a drummer himself, too (but I'm also unsure about his name)
@charlesmayberry2825
@charlesmayberry2825 5 жыл бұрын
Depending on the style of metal, Meter changes are very common. I end up playing in 6/8, 7/8, and 6/4 a lot. though I count it as 12/8 when I'm playing in it. Then there's bands like tool, which the meter changes are incredibly numerous. The other commonality in metal is how quickly we switch between Natural minor and Phrygian. The style I play very frequently uses natural minor when ascending and Phrygian or phrygian Dominant when descending. The flat second stepping down to the tonic is very much the sound of metal. Things to keep in mind.
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Love this! Now I have to go listen to more metal. I had no idea it was so involved musically! Mad respect for you, sir. Mad. Respect. 😍
@charlesmayberry2825
@charlesmayberry2825 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheVoiceLoveCo I very much recommend groups like tool. There is such a wide variety of metal but they are a good step into complex metal and speaking from a vocal standpoint a lot easier to digest than some other styles. A couple song recommendations "schism" it has 47 changes in meter.
@mormacil
@mormacil 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheVoiceLoveCo Metal has a lot in common with classical. Especially among the more progressive corner there's a lot of room for technical play. If you want something that's metal but easier to enjoy while still technical try And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope by Ne Obliviscaris. Alternatively within Death Metal I'm a big fan of Be'lakor. Very melodic though they totally still scream a lot. There's plenty of metal that doesn't but that's not labelled Death.
@MattKrogmeier
@MattKrogmeier 5 жыл бұрын
Iron Maiden does a lot of meter changes, and writes EPIC songs. A favorite example that often goes overlooked is "When The Wild Wind Blows." Plus, their vocalist, Bruce Dickinson, is one of the absolute beasts of singers in the genre.
@MattKrogmeier
@MattKrogmeier 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheVoiceLoveCo Another favorite of mine that does the mix between clean and "fry" vocals is Avatar. Metal is more diverse than you may realize (and full of sub-genre style differences) , and I hope you keep trying new things
@Edmundrs3rd
@Edmundrs3rd 5 жыл бұрын
Tatiana has said she actually has no formal vocal training. She doesn't even warm up before shows. She does it naturally which is even more insane. But you are 100% right, trying that for a beginner is not good. From what I've watched and read, she does what's called a Fry Scream. She's not using her vocal folds which I believe is called a False Fold Scream. Regardless, she has natural talent most can only dream of.
@Predalien1993
@Predalien1993 5 жыл бұрын
Fry uses the true folds actually, false chord avoids them and uses the false vocal folds.
@sokandueler9578
@sokandueler9578 5 жыл бұрын
Edmund S wait...she doesn’t warm up for that? And she can flip like that? Holy cow.
@ECxTheMaster
@ECxTheMaster 5 жыл бұрын
just on the sound its most definitely both
@Raptorsalad
@Raptorsalad 5 жыл бұрын
@@Predalien1993 Exactly. It sounds like she's using her false folds in this song, though I'm not entirely sure whether or not she uses fry screaming in others.
@Predalien1993
@Predalien1993 5 жыл бұрын
@@Raptorsalad Personally, i believe she mixes both sounds and beautifully i might add! Not only that, but the lady has such a strong core singing voice!
@Rosannasfriend
@Rosannasfriend 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, your face when she started her fry scream was one of the best I've seen so far.
@Duane_Grabert
@Duane_Grabert 5 жыл бұрын
Best part of any react to this song is that first chorus drop. They ain't ready.
@cristiaolson7327
@cristiaolson7327 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Everyone is always like "wtf, what just happened?!?!"
@metalhead4x448
@metalhead4x448 5 жыл бұрын
The best part is you can tell she's lip syncing it cause that's obviously not her voice producing that sound. Its obvious dubbed over.
@TheN9nth
@TheN9nth 5 жыл бұрын
@@metalhead4x448 Have you seen her live?
@metalhead4x448
@metalhead4x448 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheN9nth yeah you can hear the obvious effects
@timhutchinson8485
@timhutchinson8485 5 жыл бұрын
There are quite a few other women known for this style of vocal: -Lauren Hart from Once Human (and frequent guest vocalist in Kamelot) -Alyssa White-Gluz from Arch Enemy -Elena Cataraga from Infected Rain -Courtney LaPlante from Spiritbox Just to name a few.
@mormacil
@mormacil 5 жыл бұрын
Vicky Psarakis from the Agonist (replaced Alyssa when she went to Arch Enemy) Angela Gossow from Arch Enemy Maria Arkhipova from Arkona To name some more great ladies.
@fnglert
@fnglert 5 жыл бұрын
@@mormacil Floor Jansen can also growl, though she does so rarely and is not specifically known for it.
@supamoop6467
@supamoop6467 5 жыл бұрын
Welp found new bands to listen to thank you
@Justin-nq6kf
@Justin-nq6kf 5 жыл бұрын
None are on Tati's level tho
@mormacil
@mormacil 5 жыл бұрын
@@fnglert She does it rarely and I thought she did a different type of growls so I left her of the list.
@Subjectivity13
@Subjectivity13 5 жыл бұрын
That was a much more thorough analysis than even other voice coaches normally give! Particularly jumping back and forth between her explanation and clips from the song that demonstrate her point. It was very effective and extremely well edited for both humor and effect. Great job! I'm seeing Jinjer in concert in October, in a surprisingly small venue.
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Enjoy the concert! 💖
@StuartJM
@StuartJM 5 жыл бұрын
Tip for audio: It sounds like you're playing the audio though your laptop's speakers, then letting it feed back in through your microphone. You're better off using earbuds to listen to the song, and use the audio from the track itself in your video (like you did when you were analysing it). Just makes for a much better listen :D
@thecorrectoification
@thecorrectoification 3 жыл бұрын
"Marty, that was very interesting.....music" "I guess you guys aren't ready for that yet, but your kids are gonna love it"
@johntorres532
@johntorres532 5 жыл бұрын
Her cleans are beautiful. But i fell in love ever since i heard her growls and screams 😍😍😍😍😍 shes queen!
@victorsupreme214
@victorsupreme214 5 жыл бұрын
What I like about you is you listen to the entire song and *then* react. And yes, Devin Townsend performing Kingdom live for EMGtv.
@jerthon1
@jerthon1 3 жыл бұрын
I am different, I like the ones that pause and break down what they just heard as they hear it, If I wanted to listen to the song I would just go listen to the song.
@francoislamarche3861
@francoislamarche3861 5 жыл бұрын
Her "LADY" voice is so melodic... Love this group... She is very special as a singer... Not easy to navigate between those vibes...
@MFMasterBates
@MFMasterBates 5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to see her live
@glynemartin
@glynemartin 3 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the most comprehensive analyses on this song so far. Your depth and honesty was refreshing...Great job!
@zorglub20770
@zorglub20770 5 жыл бұрын
you showed much respect to the song without interrupting with comments until the end. I appreciate that very much.
@Raul-vl7ly
@Raul-vl7ly 5 жыл бұрын
I love your editing towards the end, it made me laugh. “Taken me to school today “ ! Awesome. That’s a perfect Segway into reacting to Jinjer’s new song Teacher, Teacher!
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Hurray! I'm so glad. Yes, I do believe you have a great idea there with your song suggestion! Thanks for this comment. Great to hear from you, Raul. 🌟
@fartvader84yearsago8
@fartvader84yearsago8 5 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, this video was made to highlight the new (not so new now) drummer. The original song didn't had that many ghost notes.
@JappaKneads
@JappaKneads 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most professionally done reaction videos I've seen...kudos lady!...
@benhogan6732
@benhogan6732 5 жыл бұрын
The first woman I heard doing this was Angela Gossow with Arch Enemy in the early 2000's, but she doesn't do any clean vocals and yeah there are a whole host of women in metal doing this kind of thing these days.
@EvilBonsai
@EvilBonsai 5 жыл бұрын
Personally Im surprised few heard of Straight Line Stitch, which also switches from clean to growl frequently.
@sugoruyo
@sugoruyo 5 жыл бұрын
And they're quite good at it. Most of the time it's easier to tell what they're saying compared to guys doing it.
@tattooedman42
@tattooedman42 5 жыл бұрын
@@EvilBonsai They need more exposure. I loved their stuff the moment I heard it.
@mr.nervedamagegaming8050
@mr.nervedamagegaming8050 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of girls and women try this style but very few can hold a candle to T from Jinjer. She may actually have the most powerful metal vocals on a chic that I’ve ever heard. Throw in the fantastic cleans and she’s probably the best in the business. Most others will disappoint in comparison lol.
@benhogan6732
@benhogan6732 5 жыл бұрын
@@mr.nervedamagegaming8050 personally it's her cleanes that interest me most, her growl is great no doubting that but she's not doing anything new there, but as you say it's her vocal dexterity that really stands her apart from any other metal vocalist male or female. To be fair though every member of this band bring something special, they probably are one of the more interesting metal bands working today.
@garybeyer6813
@garybeyer6813 5 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that someone who is not in to that style but knoweledgable about music is able to recognize the degree of talent that they have. I love them
@EdBMetal
@EdBMetal 5 жыл бұрын
Best voice coach reaction that i have seen of this song so far. I already loved this song but your insight gave me even more appreciation for this song than i already had 😎👍
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the time to leave this lovely comment. It means the world. 💖
@saidamir2481
@saidamir2481 5 жыл бұрын
Yes thank you for showing your full reaction with this format. I prefer this new format a lot compared to the previous formats you’ve done 😊
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that feedback, Said. I appreciate it! 😊
@studentlifejings
@studentlifejings 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen them live twice! They are the real deal! You need to listen to the song I Speak Astronomy to get your mind blown all over again!!! Her vocal range is pretty much the same during a live show. She is also an amazing live performer with incredible stage presence!!!
@jen.g.
@jen.g. 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. 😊 Alternating time signatures is quite common in metal, actually. It’s most common in progressive metal (and I’d say Jinjer is more progressive metal than death metal, but I digress). And yes, there are other women who mix cleans with growls, but I’ve never enjoyed it from anyone else. I suspect it’s Tatiana’s accent that makes me enjoy her more than others. Anyway, good for you for keeping an open mind! 😊
@notquitemytempo1353
@notquitemytempo1353 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm not that much familiar with Jinjer but this sounded progressive to me, certainly more so than death. Got the same vibe from the bassist too, well the band generally. That riff introduced in the later part of the song is goddamn beautiful too.
@Myrrath991
@Myrrath991 5 жыл бұрын
@@notquitemytempo1353 The band is crazy technical. Eugene the bassist is an absolute beast. Roman (guitarist) and Vlad (drums) are ridiculously good as well.
@pazwretzky4673
@pazwretzky4673 5 жыл бұрын
she definitely has put her time in...Tatiana's been singing like this for 10 going on 11 years now...she's self taught only having a short period vocal training as a child....the only thing that worries her in regards to singing is catching a cold...other than that she's sung this way so far without incident 🤞....really cool of you to recognize the talent throughout the band...for obvious reasons initially Tatiana is the focus...your advice for anyone attempting to try this style was also very cool 👍🙂
@cassiewinters331
@cassiewinters331 5 жыл бұрын
Paz Wretzky and started screaming because of Otep
@pazwretzky4673
@pazwretzky4673 5 жыл бұрын
@@cassiewinters331 yeah I know....I actually said that today on an Otep reaction I saw earlier
@Module79L
@Module79L 5 жыл бұрын
I know it's too late now to tell you this but Napalm Records doesn't block any of their videos on the reaction channels. Even with all the pauses you still got the usual harmless copyright notice, so there was no need for all those cuts. ; ) The remake of this song was done to showcase the different spin the new drummer, Vlad, put on a song the band considered to be one of the "weakest" in the album. Imagine that! Instead, it catapulted them into the international Metal scene. : ) Btw, it's not "the" Ukraine, it's Ukraine only. ; )
@Un4GivNX
@Un4GivNX 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a nice reaction video!! You let the video flow without interuption. You then presented a detailed desc of timings and some highlight cuts. You took some time for the montage. This video feels refreshing. Thank you, you got a new follower :)
@baronofgreymatter14
@baronofgreymatter14 5 жыл бұрын
Seen her live..shes amazing and yes she does it healthily
@spikebrownl177
@spikebrownl177 5 жыл бұрын
metal music changes time like that all the time its very common. Metal is some of the most technical music out there
@missketathirteen
@missketathirteen 5 жыл бұрын
Watching you smile and lightly head band to Jinjer was adorable lol! I am a metal music fan and I quickly fell in love with this band. I love that you can appreciate different styles of music and vocals without necessarily being a "fan" of it. And great editing by the way.
@Jay_Wolfe
@Jay_Wolfe 4 жыл бұрын
It's a pleasure to hear someone say "It's not my thing" and then still be objective enough to comment on the abilities of the musician/singer/band.
@Tobyc1315
@Tobyc1315 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, now you need to hear Devin Townsend perform Kingdom live for EMGtv. Amazing.
@williamduckett3407
@williamduckett3407 5 жыл бұрын
Came to say this!
@Justin-nq6kf
@Justin-nq6kf 5 жыл бұрын
YUP
@UncleTrog
@UncleTrog 5 жыл бұрын
Ditto
@Laughingman923
@Laughingman923 5 жыл бұрын
Devin is just a master at his craft, one of the best musicians alive.
@snarkydragon3503
@snarkydragon3503 5 жыл бұрын
concur
@kaisersozay8978
@kaisersozay8978 4 жыл бұрын
I love that you tell it just like you feel it. "Not exactly my style. But talented musicians.". Perfectly put...because I can tell that genuinely how you feel. Nothing better than honesty, blended with love. You're amazing.
@jsk8drummer
@jsk8drummer 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching the video and taking it all in, THEN going back afterwards to talk about it and keeping an open mind. All of these vocal coach reactions consist of them rambling technical jargon throughout the whole song and not even attempting to connect with the music at all.
@wretchedbass
@wretchedbass 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of technical metal, tend to stray away from common 4/4 times. Sometimes, some bands repeat an odd time signature until its divisible by 4. The drummer will play 4/4 up top on their cymbals and snare, and matching the other time signature on the kick drum.
@inchworm555
@inchworm555 5 жыл бұрын
As soon as I heard this lady speak in the beginning. I i was like oh no no honey you isn’t ready
@RmonteiroHQ
@RmonteiroHQ 5 жыл бұрын
Odd time signatures are pretty common in metal, even in the most unexpected extreme metal. Those are people absolutly in love with music, taking it to extremes. You would be surprised with what you would might find digging around.
@Friedensp4nzer
@Friedensp4nzer 5 жыл бұрын
I like that you pointed put the drummer (and all the others, too, and rightfully so. That beast on the bass conquered this instrument), because this video was actually made to present their new drummer. But then it got kinda viral and all people not familiar with them were talking about Tati's vocals. (:
@raduuvladaslas4737
@raduuvladaslas4737 5 жыл бұрын
thank you ! you are the first that i have watched to speak of the band and not just tatiana
@thomasackerly7732
@thomasackerly7732 5 жыл бұрын
U look speechless She is amazing and band is extremely Talented. Saw them 2x going to see them in Oct for 3x can't wait. Love her and Band is brilliant to
@cassiewinters331
@cassiewinters331 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh one of my favorite bands. Tatiana has the voice of an angel and demon. Her lyrics are absolutely beautiful and the band as a whole is amazing.
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed! 🌟
@Theuf28
@Theuf28 4 жыл бұрын
Your face when the screaming starts is priceless! she have a very powerful scream, controlled very well, not easy!
@JunFan777
@JunFan777 5 жыл бұрын
I swear I will never get tired of watching people react to this. And, sexist or not, Tatiana is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.
@trulyevil211
@trulyevil211 5 жыл бұрын
I love most of Jinjer’s stuff. I don’t care that you don’t enjoy this type of music. You’re getting my sub because of how Objective your reaction is. Great editing. Loved it.
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Welcome! 💖
@remembertheblacksabbath
@remembertheblacksabbath 5 жыл бұрын
I love this song and band! She is a freak of nature vocally!!!🤘🤘🤘Amazing musicianship too, I might add!
@PropBoyGinge
@PropBoyGinge 5 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaand there it is at 2.00 minutes exactly. One of my favourite WTAF moments on KZbin... the moment that Tatiana switches seamlessly into her scream. The point where the reactor just goes "Did I just hear that correctly?"
@SuneOaptire
@SuneOaptire 5 жыл бұрын
7:57 YES, some jazzy vibes are everywhere, especially in *«Beggar's Dance»* intro and at the end of *«Who is gonna be the one»* (live in Kyiv)
@SoulFullOfMusic81
@SoulFullOfMusic81 5 жыл бұрын
Great reaction and editing, it is so tidy
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
YES! Well said! So grateful to have you here. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Love hearing viewers break down the experience even further, especially since I am still learning the genre. Thanks so much!🌟
@SoulFullOfMusic81
@SoulFullOfMusic81 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheVoiceLoveCo You're welcome! You are open minded, professional and very polite, coaches like you deserve a big following. 🤩
@Justin-nq6kf
@Justin-nq6kf 5 жыл бұрын
LOL the intro of this video knowing whats coming.
@Duane_Grabert
@Duane_Grabert 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. We wait for the facial expressions when that first chorus drops. ;)
@cardiac19
@cardiac19 5 жыл бұрын
100% I was watching her face the whole time waiting for that drop. Well worth it.
@zdaaaaar
@zdaaaaar 5 жыл бұрын
This video was actualy made after the song was released. Hero of this clip is the new drummer. They tried this song with him and it was so good that they decide to make a video.
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
He is AMAZING! Wow! Thanks for sharing more insight with me on this song. I've come away with tremendous respect for these musicians. Holy wow! 💖
@ChrisPage68
@ChrisPage68 5 жыл бұрын
Vlad's great because what he does looks minimal but is very technical.
@douglascampbell9809
@douglascampbell9809 5 жыл бұрын
Jinjer- Teacher, Teacher, 4 different singing styles in one song all by the same performer. Also Tatiana is not the only woman to sing with the fry technique.
@MyBrainDontWork920
@MyBrainDontWork920 5 жыл бұрын
I love seeing people's reaction to Tatiana going full frayed vocals during that first chorus... it's so pleasing :)
@FINALLYQQQQAVAILABLE
@FINALLYQQQQAVAILABLE 5 жыл бұрын
I think you're the first person reacting to this song who recognizes those changes of time signatures and such. It takes some skill to write a complex song which still has a very natural flow. I love the jazzy harmonies too. I'm not a fan of the genre but that's some great musicianship.
@michaelj5339
@michaelj5339 5 жыл бұрын
First there is shock Than disbelief Confusion Than Curiosity After you are amazed!
@dragnridr05
@dragnridr05 5 жыл бұрын
If you have headphones on during some of her "singing" portions, you can kinda hear some of growls seep through. That's is definitely a way you can tell her voice isn't altered or ran through a machine.
@merdufer
@merdufer 5 жыл бұрын
The first time I heard a reaction video talking about the composition and the other musicians! It's such an intricate piece of songwriting. The bassist and drummer were doing some really cool stuff.
@JiTiAr35
@JiTiAr35 5 жыл бұрын
lol. Even a vocal coach can't explain this. Tatiana Shmaylyuk = A goddess with a beast vocal.
@iRafaelkr
@iRafaelkr 5 жыл бұрын
And she is self-thaught, that makes it even more incredible!
@suzannemcneal7320
@suzannemcneal7320 5 жыл бұрын
This is a video you could have shown without fear of copyright ingringement. This video, in my humble opinion, is the single most brilliant promotional move they could have made. It's drawn people to them and they seem to appreciate the reaction and review videos. Fun reaction. Never gets old, not ever.!
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. I have mad respect for these musicians after seeing this video, that's for sure!🌟
@kntryreb3581
@kntryreb3581 5 жыл бұрын
9:02 I almost died from laughter 😂 😂
@bobsciascia
@bobsciascia 5 жыл бұрын
Jinjer was in the middle of evolving from metalcore to progressive metal for that album. But their amazing. Cool reaction!
@Popabuddy1
@Popabuddy1 5 жыл бұрын
It makes me so happy to see someone that isn't into this type of music give respect where it's deserved, you don't have to like this music. Extreme music is extreme so it's only normal for people to not be into it. Also you did a great job sharing your thoughts and editing the video 😊
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to give me this feedback and positivity today. It means more than you'll ever know. 😘
@ashkennedy9789
@ashkennedy9789 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO MENTIONS THE METER!!!! i absolutely cannot figure out what the meter is during the screams but i love that they use 7/8 for some parts w the cleans. my favorite time signature of all time
@ApacheGamingUK
@ApacheGamingUK 5 жыл бұрын
My first time listening to Jinjer as well. I'll be seeing them live at Bloodstock Open Air next year. She reminds me a lot of Otep.
@user-xj2sm3xd5l
@user-xj2sm3xd5l 5 жыл бұрын
Tatiana is beautiful, physically and vocally. Such an angel
@j_forfreedom45
@j_forfreedom45 5 жыл бұрын
growling is a method of singing and when you do it properly it doesnt hurt your voice or vocal cords... Tatianna is doing it for over 10 years and she is getting better every year.
@petefelix3616
@petefelix3616 5 жыл бұрын
Im so glad you mentioned the musicians, that drummer is legit
@lukasziebermayr2336
@lukasziebermayr2336 5 жыл бұрын
Actually in prog metal you often have different "meters", changing back and forth. Thats why i love it so much, always feels like a journey, not bland and repetitive
@LeaFarNas802
@LeaFarNas802 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the world of Jinjer. All of 'em are amazing musicians! Tatiana all the way!
@Warhawk76
@Warhawk76 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the "Being speechless after hearing the goddess Tatiana for the first time" club. She has the voice of a hypnotic angel and a demon at the same time, an an amazing band backing her up, very cool!
@jr49022
@jr49022 5 жыл бұрын
First time I've happened onto your channel -- first one to do a really strong analysis of the song & the artists! Thank you!
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate you watching and taking time to comment. 💖
@miguelcano5201
@miguelcano5201 5 жыл бұрын
Another great song by Jinjer worth checking out is perennial
@geminis1523
@geminis1523 5 жыл бұрын
This lady is glowing! What a pleasant open minded and intelligent human she is!
@chrishall9497
@chrishall9497 5 жыл бұрын
You were great and your expressions made smile so big and wide. Also, you are beautiful and that makes it even better. 👍
@mr.nervedamagegaming8050
@mr.nervedamagegaming8050 5 жыл бұрын
Those pauses won’t prevent a video from being claimed by the content license holder and you won’t get a strike for doing reactions. There are actually quite a few uploads out there in regards to how precise the algorithm is at picking up songs owned by someone else. It literally only takes mere seconds to get noticed by the system. Your channel won’t get a strike though, you will just get a claim from the owner of the songs and won’t be able to monetize the reaction. No reaction channels can monetize their videos for this reason.
@BaldotheDon
@BaldotheDon 5 жыл бұрын
Tatijana hitting that first chorus is an eye-opener for everyone that watches this video for the first time, but it's an unfathomable twist in reality for some. That's _really_ her voice. Women _can_ do that. But... They can only do that in the more extreme forms of music. Genres that have been hard for them to contribute to for a long time. A lot of women have made strong inroads, and Tatijana Shmailyuk (shma-EEL-yook) is a pinnacle of the class. I love her work. Karyn Crisis (song: 'Different Ways Of Decay') was a trailblazer, the first I can remember. Otep Shamaya (Band: Otep, songs: 'T.R.I.C.,' my fave: 'Buried Alive' or 'Ghostflowers') is impressive and poetic. I call goosebumps 'brinkflesh' now and ever more because of what Maria Brink's voice does to me (Band: In This Moment, songs: 'The Promise,' 'Blood,' 'Beautiful Tragedy'). Lzzy Hale. All of them indirect decendants of Janice Joplin, inheriting her drive to be a woman making music and being _loud_ about it. Consider that list my suggestions. I've been effusive about my interpretation of the lyrics - so easily eclipsed by Tati's voice - in the comments of other reaction videos (there are _so_ many react-to-Jinjer-Pisces-videos, it's its own genre now), but I'm gonna be cryptic here: the fish she sings about are not really fish, but the handsome butchers really are handsome butchers. Anyway, I love metal with women on vocals.
@evaa6106
@evaa6106 5 жыл бұрын
Props to you for recognizing sheer talent, and I really enjoyed your breakdown of the composition.
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching. Means a lot. 😊
@life60plus
@life60plus 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent reaction video. You dove into the mechanics of this band and song. Thanks from a diehard metal fan who loves seeing respect for those who have mastered their craft.
@rodentcafeteria
@rodentcafeteria 4 жыл бұрын
Great reaction vid! Titianna said that it took her years to develop her style of singing/growling and being able to turn it on and off as she pleases and that she's not damaging her vocal cords, but wouldn't recommend it to anyone else.
@ExUSSailor
@ExUSSailor 5 жыл бұрын
They have a big jazz feel, because, the bass player, Eugene, lists his biggest influences as Victor Wooten & Jaco Pastorius.
@eleye5807
@eleye5807 4 жыл бұрын
Yours is the first Reaction to this song I see that points out the different meters. Thank you for that, I personally love these changes in music.
@CellarStudioProductions
@CellarStudioProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I have been working on screaming, growling and aggressive singing for 4 years now. I have found that you CAN sorta skip over learning singing as in "You can produce that sound, even if you're rather untrained". HOWEVER, it is not good to do this longterm without proper singing training. I have heard people comparing aggressive vocals to lifting heavy weights. You can do quite a bunch of stuff, if you know some tricks and techniques, but if you don't have the muscle to pull it off and keep it under control, you will hurt yourself at some point. Guaranteed. I know I did. So... if you choose to experiment with this, here are my 4 rules: 1. If it hurts, STOP IMMEDIATELY. Take one or two days off before even thinking about a gentle second try. 2. If you can make the sound: GREAT. Be satisfied with that. Do not try to scream a full song right of the start. You wouldn't do 10 reps of deadlifting 180kg after you just did so for the first time, would you? 3. VOCAL REST. Take breaks. A lot. Your voice has to get used to what you'll be doing with it. This is a slow process. 4. Stay hydrated. You will be moving quite a bunch of air through your throat. Drink water to keep you're throat from drying out and getting irritated fast. I hope this helps. Thanks for reading. To your voice, Dominik
@tribaltalker1608
@tribaltalker1608 5 жыл бұрын
Positive, detailed, informative - that was great. Of course, watching your expression change at the first chorus is why people love "Jinjer - Pisces" reactions. You coped elegantly and stayed professional - some vocal coaches fall to pieces and become incoherent. Which is often fun to watch, I must admit. There are quite a few ladies in metal with a decent growl but few have Tatiana's control in both clean and harsh vocals. She is unusual. As you noted, the other band members are top notch too. If you are interested in unusual vocal techniques, "The Hu - Wolf Totem" features Mongolian throat singing in a hard rock/metal song. Beautiful video, too. It has far less of a shock factor than "Pisces". Recommended.
@Q.Q.
@Q.Q. 5 жыл бұрын
Liked the edited-in interludes. Much more preferable to the alternative of your stopping the performance during recording and talking through the pauses, because doing so would detract from your ability to get a full sense of the performance, and, as a viewer of a reaction, I don't want that interruption in the reactor's experience. So, post-production pauses are much more preferable to in-recording pauses. So, good job on that. And, the ~50s-ish TV-bulletin-style motif on your pause notice was cute. Didn't like the muted audio (though, in the analysis portion, it wasn't muted), but I get that you're doing what you feel you need to do.
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Love this feedback QQ. Keep it coming. I'm listening. 😍
@Q.Q.
@Q.Q. 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheVoiceLoveCo - Oh, the needle-on-record noise is a cool touch, BTW.
@TwoTrakMind
@TwoTrakMind 5 жыл бұрын
Great reaction, "Chewy!" LOL! I love Jinjer! They are all such amazing artists on their own, and together, they raise the bar high on this genre of music. This is the perfect song to start with. Now I'd recommend you check out "Who is Gonna Be the One." It's more screaming than singing, but you have the ability to appreciate talent, and the song really showcases the talent of the entire group.
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Screaming...oy! 😝 Okay, I'll take your word for it. Adding this to my very long list of suggestions. I appreciate you taking time to comment. 😘
@docstarbux4903
@docstarbux4903 5 жыл бұрын
The rest of their catalog has a bunch of other vocal styles. She sings in a few other clean styles(jazzy, belted, raggae, rap) and also raps in her growl. Another couple great examples are: teacher teacher, Perennial, and who is gonna be the one Black water is also great it's one of just a few songs with 100% clean vocals in it
@kawoodworks8559
@kawoodworks8559 4 жыл бұрын
She just about knocked me out of my seat the first time I heard this, but.....THE DRUMMER IS OFF THE HOOK! Actually all of them are extremely talented, you don't have to love Death Metal to appreciate this band!
@deminybs
@deminybs 5 жыл бұрын
i've been screaming along to tunes since i was around 12 , lol 29 now , never had any issues ;p
@stoneshack2000
@stoneshack2000 5 жыл бұрын
That was one of your best Christi, funny also:-). and your pauses were perfect. didn't really miss a beat. just a great reaction girl, I think one of your best ever:-)
@TheVoiceLoveCo
@TheVoiceLoveCo 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, Jim! Thank you! I had a lot of fun putting this video together. Appreciate your kind feedback! Have a wonderful week! 🌟
@valeriududau3218
@valeriududau3218 5 жыл бұрын
try Teacher, Teacher - Jinjer - more vocal range
@slate613
@slate613 5 жыл бұрын
And then there's Beggar's Dance to completely throw you for a loop! lol
@hakongussiasjohnsbraten3484
@hakongussiasjohnsbraten3484 5 жыл бұрын
absolutely love that song
@iamalpharius2574
@iamalpharius2574 5 жыл бұрын
If you want to see more range and creativity from the band and her voice, definitely check out "Ape" by Jinjer. Her slides and melody are super amazing.
@onetymebigtyme
@onetymebigtyme 5 жыл бұрын
Nice i love this, you are also reading time signatures and some odd time too, compliments to the Musicians
@thagirion218
@thagirion218 5 жыл бұрын
I learnt how to growl by myself, but I have some education as a bass-baritone, this helped me a lot with my growling technique, and yeah, what you say is totally true, get someone who can teach you the basics of singing and this will help a lot with the growls.
@tehking111
@tehking111 5 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, you know she actually does jazz and swing music too? It's one of her passions and I'm massively surprised you spot it.
@Module79L
@Module79L 5 жыл бұрын
And Reggae and Mariachi and Rap... ; )
@ShadowhispersBand
@ShadowhispersBand 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Great reaction and, above all, excellent analysis of the song. Odd time meters are more common in metal than you think. The whole progessive metal genre is all about it.
@andorastorm1000
@andorastorm1000 5 жыл бұрын
Good reaction of this. She is amazing along with the whole band. So true if u don't know how to sing like than don't do it. Not my top fav of music either but I love them lol. They are that good.
@War624
@War624 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who didn't just say that every song reaction they do was something they'd listen to more of. I feel like a lot of reactors do that just to get more subs. I personally love Jinjer, but I'm glad you were honest about how you felt about the overall style not being your thing.
@Justin-nq6kf
@Justin-nq6kf 5 жыл бұрын
If you really wanna get taken to school react to Jinjer-Teacher, Teacher :P
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