Vocal Coach Reacts to Jinjer - Pisces | WOW! She was...

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

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[@mattphillips538]

Other vocal coaches have made progress understanding how this is produced by watching Floor Jansen's approach to it in the chorus of Nightwish's Yours Is An Empty Hope (Wembley performance). Apparently Floor's method of producing the growl is somewhat obvious when viewed by vocal professionals. Hope this helps.

[@pete_lind]

Tatiana has explained in an interview , how long time it took her to get that growl , training it by screaming in a pillow and how she has to do vocal training about every day to be able to do it , so its not easy and something once you learn it you can do it for rest of your life . Specially when she wanted to sound like a man and not a women doing the growl . Loudwire interview Tatiana Shmayluk kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3PVooqPgqegbJI 12 min 38 sec .

[@pete_lind]

@@mattphillips538 Floor Jansen is friend with Alissa White Gluz , growling vocalist from Arch Enemy , for one good reason . Some old music news headlines . The Swedish band Arch Enemy and the Finnish band Amorphis will performe live as opening act of Nightwish gig at Romexpo in Bucharest, December 10 , 2015

[@mattphillips538]

@@pete_lind Tack sa mykcket. Kiitos paljon.

[@terhazza]

IIRC Tatiana has stated that regular belts are actually harder for her voice than the growls: in live versions of this song she often replaces the belt in last chorus with a growl. Women doing growling vocals are not that uncommon these days (Alissa White-Gluz from Arch Enemy is well-known, and for more extreme example there was Som Pluijmers from Cerebral Bore), but Tatiana is still unusual for both extreme effortlesness she moves between cleans, belts and growls, and also her pronunciation in growls is very good. Lots of growlers sound very deep and brutal, but at the cost of not making out any of the lyrics.

[@Neal_YouTube]

Jinjer fans all smiling to themselves waiting for the drop

[@louisecookson4786]

I think watching vids like this is my new hobby 😂 love waiting for the reaction

[@bryansmith5980]

32 count rim shot on the drum and were done! Hehehe

[@TiDeviSpaventareeeeh]

yep ;)

[@Demonic_GengarTTV]

Everytime...all the time

[@crayzeewhorse]

@@louisecookson4786 a hobby?? Its a way of life 😂

[@iamweasel68]

I love jinjer reactions. The look of "ctrl alt delete" on people's faces when the first chorus drops never gets old 🤣

[@Uhui12345]

End task

[@cfppf216]

Three stages: 1. First reactioner pause, usually right before the chorus, followed by "This is so chill, I love it" comments 2. First Chorus reaction 3. Ending bridge where she belts it and cements you loving what you just witnessed If you don't react to parts two and three, you are dead inside haha

[@thomasailport7558]

Alt + F4***

[@SilivrenRien]

🥇 Medal for Comment of my day, Brandon!!

[@amunpix]

i think i watched like 50 reactions so far ....and still get goosebumps and love how their faces change :)))))))))))))

[@GawkerWeb]

“It’s kind of kicked back sounding” *chuckling to myself” “Nothing crazy tho” HERE. WE. GO. God I love this song.

[@sunnykraiger3998]

“A little bit of grit” OH HONEY JUST WAIT

[@horrorshow3000]

lol exactly what I was thinking, She also said "nothing crazy yet" and I started laughing!

[@danuttall]

@@horrorshow3000 "Nothing Crazy Yet." Just wait a couple of seconds. :)

[@tjhorne82]

Check out Tatiana's one take vocal of "Judgement and Punishment" and you can see watch her body position and vocal techniques better.

[@snicka8173]

YESSS!

[@bernhardkulzer9125]

And Wacken "Perennial" where you can`t hide mistakes! And "I speak Astronomy" simply because it`s such a good song! 😉👍

[@arc6017]

For sure!

[@chincevideos923]

man id love to see that

[@mattdoe916]

Hell ya awesome

[@matthewconner5545]

“She’s nice and supported.” Yeah, for this. In concerts, she’s VERY animated. OWNS the stage.

[@acidblasta]

but if you pay attention when it comes time to really get down on it. she plants and performs before going back to doing her high energy stuff.

[@travesty-studios]

Yeah, she knows when she needs to be grounded. She is talented and experienced.

[@jemoeder7456]

Last band I saw live before the f-ing lockdowns!

[@monbreau7306]

You misunderstood.

[@SteveSmith-os5bs]

Pisces is just the entrance to the Jinjer rabbit hole. Her voice range and how quickly she can flip from growling the cleans and back is amazing.

[@poppabobbers4146]

In every reaction I've seen, every single one always asks "Is that really her?"

[@Zenus_Thenus]

There are actually chanels who analize and explain how to do it properly

[@monbreau7306]

You haven't watched many, then.

[@robertmasengale9366]

It's that slide from gorgeous melodic singing to the false fold screaming vocals. It's such a huge shift that it's jarring. A lot of people don't vary themselves vocally so drastically.

[@camannwordsmith]

​@@monbreau7306yep. I would say 75% of the vocal coaches I have seen react to this know right away how she's doing it. The Fairy Voice Mother can actually DO it a little.

[@Antilli]

"I'm waiting for something crazy to happen" Be careful what you wish for.

[@rushzil2112]

She's incredible, but this video was to feature their new drummer. He's a complete beast, and so is the rest of the band. This is one of my favorite rhythm sections.

[@TheCrazyCanuck420]

Everyone talks about the vocals but the rest are very good too.

[@MrJorge3010]

He really improved on the album version of the song

[@HeidiLyonPervyNoonaGA]

Audrey: "I like it, it's really kicked back sounding." Me: *grabs the popcorn with an evil grin

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

😂 😂 😂 😂

[@tattoodude8946]

Your pause at 9:20 completely destroyed one of the most brilliant things about Tatiana - her ability to switch on the fly without pausing. From growl to amazing cleans and rising to a belt that will melt your soul.

[@tattoodude8946]

Also, you have to watch her one take of Judgement (and Punishment). A reggae-metal tune that really shows what she can do as well as allowing more her personality to come through!

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

And I oop 😯

[@NikkiNexo777]

Yeah, the reaction videos to this song just never get old. As someone else pointed out, I just sat here smiling at the beginning waiting for the drop.

[@Violator41]

Katy Perry: “You’re gonna hear me roar!” Tatiana: “Hold my beer.”

[@EwanMarshall]

Want to know a little secret, in truth, it is more of a purr in that it is not that loud, mic and amplification are a big help. Might also be why the cleans sound a bit breathy and airy, she is close to singing in a whisper to not need to adjust that mic gain.

[@arkhamwhitt5546]

Well I’ll join in the chorus, perennial live at wacken , teacher teacher, and the one take of judgment & punishment. All just amazing.

[@artiemeyer8803]

She has a little bit of grit... Tatiana: Hold my beer...

[@Dark__Thoughts]

She's using her vestibular folds to make those noises, more commonly referred to as false cords, which sit kinda above the vocal cords. I would try to avoid calling it screamo though. Screamo is a very specific emo subgenre, and most metal heads are a bit tired to get that comparison. The vocal technique she uses actually comes from the death metal scene, and is typically a pitchless scream. It does indeed require a relaxed throat and a lot of breath control and support from your diaphragm. Doing it wrong is certainly very unhealthy, and in the past a lot of vocalists blew out their voice by using the wrong technique.

[@projectomnia1997]

The history of metal is paved with the destroyed vocal cords of vocalists. For as many amazing vocalists as we got when screaming and growling really started to blow up it was also a valuable lesson that had to be learned

[@joshaker2753]

This ^

[@franknstein33]

You Don't use your Vocal Cords. You use the outer flaps that Only control air, Not vocals. Like politely clearing your throat. That Rattle you hear and feel is the first step.

[@HiHoSilverAwaaay]

“I like it, it sounds very kick-back sounding. I’m waiting for something crazy to happen.” Jinjer: Hold my beer

[@nickfortin1675]

You paused at the most impressive part, when she instantly went from growl to clean!

[@lpfreak1170]

That's the part I listened to over and over and made me a fan. That pause was just painful.

[@edgriswold8736]

And then no comment on it.

[@Shade.85]

"So far I like it... Nothing crazy though..." Famous last words 😅

[@brittk3881]

Audrey- I'm waiting for something to happen. Everyone who listens to Jinjer- *sips tea*

[@tarinindell8217]

Next needs to be "Kingdom" by Devin Townsend for EMGTV

[@docproc5150]

I feel this is inevitable - and can't wait

[@Tramontano_T]

This is going to happen sooner or later

[@j.f.fisher5318]

The vocal ambush here has made this video a thing, but from a technical standpoint their concert videos such as Perennial live at Wacken, Sit Stay Roll Over live in Melbourne (the latter has more different vocal techniques crammed into a single song than anything I've seen them release, but is one of their most aggressive songs so I can't wholeheartedly recommend it haha), or the one-take vocal performance of Judgement & Punishment (very raw, even has a bit of an oops left in it, and a good mix of singing, belting, and growls) will show off her abilities much better.

[@chriswalden798]

What is this "oops" part you keep mentioning Jeffrey? Are you talking about first set of extreme vocals in the song, 3rd scream in where she sounds like your angry girlfriend? Maybe that was intentional hahaha I've seen/analyzed the performance as much as you have, I think its flawless, as flawless as human being can do. I don't think anyone would ever hear an oops in it, certainly after a first listen.

[@glebivanov6323]

@@chriswalden798 Jeffrey didn't hear that "oops" also until someone points on it. Have to admit that I still unable to catch it :)

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@glebivanov6323 Yeah, and now I can't unhear it haha. It is really subtle, I won't point it out in more detail because now that I hear it, it's distracting. Not distracting enough that I don't love that video though. I've also noticed that sound in performances by other growlers occasionally now that my ear is listening for it. It isn't really bad, yeah it is there.

[@zsebora]

Jesus....what a monster of a sentence this is :D:D

[@j.f.fisher5318]

@@zsebora lol omg. You are so very right. I could use to break that up a bit...

[@HeckinMoonMoon]

Teacher Teacher - to see her range Perennial - live performance to see her perfection Judgement & Punishment (one take) - to more easily watch her technique

[@herrkeks8509]

all the other songs - because they are great :D

[@JEFFwasHERE...]

🎉 yayyyyyyyyyyyy JEFF was HERE 👇🏆

[@tamelaayala1967]

Yes that is all her watch more of her live performances

[@77aleks77100]

I saw many reactions of this. Professional metalheads (even singers and musicians) with first chords understand, that light part, with necessarily hard metal part (screaming or something). But noone expecting her growling. Tatiana is shockingly talented.

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

77LEXX77💜🎶🎶💜

[@nigeldepledge3790]

The band's name is Jinjer. The singer's name is Tatiana Shmailyuk, and she's self-taught. The lyrics in the chorus are : "Scale armour belies virgin innocence / "One being brings life / "Another runs for Death."

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

Thanks ♥️

[@dubh_glas95]

I love this song so much and it make me cry every time I hear it. It’s such a beautiful piece and the contrast is soooooo great

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

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[@TheQ2356]

You had one of the best reaction analysis about her vocals for someone that isn't familiar with the genre from what I have seen. Well done.

[@Skybolt211]

"Judgement and Punishment 1 Take" is a vocal one take and it shows her close up and also a some of her other styles of singing... it would be a great reaction for you to do.

[@Minuz1]

Also includes a cute cat....

[@nathantumulty7172]

The natural Jinjer progression from here is to react to "Perennial" Live at Wacken.... Then, on to "Judgement and Punishment" one take live session... Both, very amazing..

[@russvasquez9571]

Better is "Perennial" at Wacken live performance.

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

Russ Vasquez💜🎶🎶💜

[@t.k.mcneil1186]

It’s a Metal technique nick named “growling.” Almost anyone can learn it and it is mostly practice.

[@autohmae]

You can also do it wrong and good instructions are very useful.

[@rentiap]

And I've always since I was a teenager back in the 70 thought everyone could do this...

[@mikey_scog]

She also has a vocal fry which sounds amazing

[@nathaniellopez6438]

No one is ever prepared for her amazing vocals. I love Tatiana, and the band is just BOSS! She can really belt those vocals out like smoothness.

[@racefan2k3]

I agree with the "Judgement and Punishment (One Take)" suggestion, but you also need to watch "Perennial" Live at Wacken to understand. "Teacher, Teacher" as well...

[@camlloyd3321]

Yup that is 100% Tatiana! The most versatile vocalist ever in my humble opinion.

[@onearthonelegion]

Tomi Joutsen, Floor Jansen, Tom Jones?

[@Evilatem]

Mike Patton kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6Kkq5d7jcaqg5o

[@jimmyjajm]

Floor Jansen imo is the most versatile singer

[@camlloyd3321]

@@jimmyjajm And a worthy candidate for the title. I like some Floor as well, but for my personal tastes Tatiana inches past her.

[@jimmyjajm]

@@camlloyd3321 taty got in my opinion better growls but Floor in cleans, operatic, high notes, popish style and anything is better, of curse in my opinion

[@bastianogr4960]

I must have watched about 50 different reactions to this video and yours is definitely one of the best and most fun to watch. Not only did I love your very genuine, excited reactions, I was also really fascinated by your professional take and analysis. As someone who's married to a professional voice actress, I really enjoyed hearing you explain all the physical/anatomical aspects, that go into shaping sound with your mouth. It's actually the entire body, depending on what you're aiming for. And Tatiana seems to have a ridiculous amount of knowledge, experience, and also instinct as far as that goes. For someone who can't sing AT ALL but is still tremendously fascinated by the human voice, this is such a fascinating topic. Thanks so much for expanding my horizon. This was fun!

[@mitchellhartman6205]

I see people mentioned, "Judgement and Punishment", and "Perennial" is live, but I would review "teacher teacher" to see Tatiana's vocal range

[@dwarvensmith80]

Who Is Going To Be The One official live is a good one for range as well. Teacher Teacher really highlights the speed at which she can switch.

[@DougTurley]

I think "I Speak Astronomy" is another good example of her range.

[@Therion.Hammer]

Winces in confusion: "But I like it.....". This is my first time watching one of your videos, but I Like You. Subscribed for more.

[@mikebunner3498]

My dear, I do not think anyone is ready for this. I love it never the less. The girl can sing...

[@mikev4372]

Be proud. I've watched a ton of these reaction videos, and your attempt at her growl was solid! Better than all the others so far, and there were a couple good ones :)

[@The_Crab_Whisperer]

Apart from the obvious, the thing that blows my mind about Tatiana is her lyric writing. In a second language incredible! Imagine trying to write something equivalent in Ukrainian. Mad talent!

[@FalconFlurry]

The reason she is able to have such deep gutterals while still having a somewhat higher speaking voice is because she doesn't use vocal fry at all. Tatiana in interviews has said she never uses vocal fry. Rather what she does is more like false cord screams which don't use your vocal cords at all. The tone she is able to get from false cords is completely independent from the structure of her vocal cords

[@bernhardkrickl3567]

She doesn't use fry for the growls, that's correct. But she does use vocal fry in this song, too. Fry doesn't equal screaming. Even pop singers use fry.

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

Wow this is so cool THank for letting me know 🥰

[@railynnhimes2324]

Someone explained that on the growl moments she's using her false vocal cords and she been growls for a long time and this person says when you growl properly it doesnt hurt your throat and that how she can switch form her false vocals to her real vocals.

[@tylerdees4850]

I love how they all think it's gonna be tame and then she hits the brutal growls and the reaction is priceless😂

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

Tyler Dees💗💗Love love this! 💗💗

[@tylerdees4850]

@@SongsFromASuitcase 😁😁😁😎

[@seancarnahan6131]

You look so very scared but excited at the same time.And I love it how people's minds are just blown away

[@silverash63]

This is reaction 1200 of jinjers pisces iv watched, I never get tired of them

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

Glad you liked it!!

[@wmscott1975]

“Is that really her?” .........as a banner at the bottom of the screen says ‘How to sing like Jinjer for free’....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@bimbkin2830]

These never get old lol Love when she paused it right before the drop too Twice!! lmao perfect

[@TheGregh1977]

Perennial live at wacken is a good concert of her singing a lot more on stage.

[@maasawdreamt8521]

"In the presence of greatness, the humble can only bow." -Randy Blythe

[@mikebunner3498]

Please NOTE few if any are ready for this..... Tatiana is one heck of a singer....... And she is powerful on stage. Her stage presence is spell binding.... This group is the greatest thing to EVER come out of the former U.S.S.R.!!!!!!!! GOLD!!!!! I must thank you for this reaction.... Good job lady!!!!

[@RurikVonElenorNeologik]

I love your energy!!!... great reaction!

[@fzzysodapop]

my favorite part is when they pause it and analyze her voice and usually saying how calming it is RIGHT BEFORE the drop

[@sereina_aleyse310]

I love how you couldn't help but enjoy the heavy parts of the song😆❤️

[@frogpaste]

She uses her false vocal folds to create the harsh vocals, as opposed to the vocal fry you hear sometimes when she's singing. This leaves her vocal folds free from wear and tear to continue clean singing.

[@InEpicinium]

"I like it, I think it's really kicked back. . ." Oh, oh boy.

[@dougarnold7955]

Awesome. Thanks for the reaction. Have fun. Jinjer is a great band. Lots of good songs. Happy 2021. My first Pisces reaction of the year. 😁👍

[@MR-ml2po]

If you want to hear some crazy screaming within a crazy range then check out Devin Townsend. Do his EMGtv of the song Kingdom. Similar in this..just flawless between clean and distorted vocals. Honestly I have no idea how he does it with the type of range with distortion

[@mikebunner3498]

I read another comment that stated that the singer does not a native English speaker, Thus she works on on her words are concentrated. really enjoy this piece. And I love this song.

[@silentwhisperstudios7808]

She can switch it up , like flipping a light switch. She's one of the best ever...👍

[@tristantknight]

That is indeed her, and she sounds just as amazing live. If you want to better check out her technique I suggest Judgement & Punishment (one take live). For a live performance I suggest Perennial at Wacken (pronounced Vacken).

[@joelbeverley603]

Is that really her?!? I couldn't believe it my first listen either... I had to watch some concert footage to convince myself.... she's amazing...

[@resonantevol]

It was genuinely fun watching your reaction and I'm glad to see you so open to metal.

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

There are other metal bands I've covered before in this channel and this won't be the last :)

[@Blackwaterjack]

My favorite part of this song is her clean / growl difference is symbolism of her being a Pisces

[@bugleaf9603]

react to them do perennial live at wacken lol

[@Rosannasfriend]

I think this is my new favorite reaction of yours, and of this song.

[@drewharden3905]

3 years later and people still reacting to Jinjer and it never gets old

[@JABzHobbies]

Judgment and Punishment one take next. Tati is very versatile. She dose things nobody is doing at this point. You should check out Home Back as well. Home Back will show you her range. Also check out Spiritbox Rule of Nines one take. Thank you & Happy New Year!

[@jsquet]

Excellent reaction ty. I watched a lot, and it is the first a vocalcoach comments make me realise that Tatiana's throat seems, in fact, more tense when she use here "normal" voice than when she is growling. Thank you so much.

[@BMOON5]

Perennial Live at Wacken. Mind Blowing.

[@perfecteleven5177]

Two years of watching reactions to this video and yours might be my favourite. Honestly.

[@pedropascuallosa9847]

I LOVE JINJER. THANK YOU FOR YOUR REACTION.

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

Pedro Pascual Losa💜🎶🎶💜

[@pedropascuallosa9847]

@@SongsFromASuitcase thank you!!!!!

[@seancarroll8103]

Congrats! You win the Jinjer reactions.

[@t.l.c7481]

Listen to "Teacher, Teacher" to hear her switch from that vocal fry to singing in a second. Even better is "Perennial" at Wacken live performance.

[@joostvanloon4518]

We played as a support act to Jinjer in January 2016 and met them backstage. Tatiana is really modest and the guys are very laid back, despite being dissatisfied about the sound. This was all before they got big but they were already unbelievably advanced at that time.

[@jasonwillett2126]

Oh jeez this will be the best Jinjer react yet!!! Rocking the wife beater..oh you have no idea whats coming. Oh "she sounds healthy" 😳😳😳

[@stangriffinstan_the_alaska9668]

It's Jinjer time and I will always be down for that. Welcome to the jinjer rabbit hole it's epic. I found them in February and have been addicted from the start. This band is special next level stuff enjoy your journey. Just subbed. Peace from Stan the Alaskan.

[@aliwantizu]

Tatiana has so many more tattoos now, not just her neck but her left arm as well. I really liked this more au natural look, but I also like her tats. She is a very impressive vocalist, and the band is tight. Great reaction, and yes you should give Judgment and Punisment (One Take Performance) a review, and maybe Perennial (live at Wacken.)

[@briansmith6911]

good reaction thank you! False vocal folds for the WIN!!! several YT peeps have mentioned trying this themselves but no results as of yet. You should definitely check out Jinjer Perennial Live at Wacken open air 2019 as everybody and their brother has suggested.

[@DairyAir]

One thing I think the singer reactions miss is how intense and tight the band is. Jinjer has done live playthru’s with all the members, so you can focus on each, so you can see how it all comes together. There is a different vocal style for every situation. The rapper ODB was well known to “always be practicing’”, and it shows. You never doubted it was ODB… Punk singers are a whole style itself…

[@logankerlee]

Oh my gosh, I'm thrilled that you did this!! You did such a great job at it, too. :) This reaction definitely made me smile! I'm so thankful. xD Today was starting to feel like a downward spiral but you helped life me out of it. Thank you!

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

I'm so glad I finally had time to do this! Blown away. This has been requested a lot before You're very much welcome :)

[@kisbiskup]

"In this video I'm gonna break down..." Oh yes, yes you will.

[@tarsbor3814]

For three years now I have been stunned by the reaction to Jinger 😁

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

TarsBor💜🎶🎶💜

[@darrellbeam8053]

This is now a few years ago. She can now go deeper. If interested, try Home Back. Just debuted the video.

[@MissSelene2000]

She is not "screaming", she is "growling". She uses her false vocal chords which is why she can switch effortlessly without hurting her natural singing ability.

[@smokinschannel5840]

This never gets old, this lady looked genuinely mad that she didn't understand how Tatiana was doing her scream.

[@BallisticStigmata]

Appreciate you having fun and an open mind with it. Also you are gorgeous.

[@Bobbias]

She's using a lot of different things together here for the growls. A lot of vocal fry. You can actually hear the base vocal frequencies coming through in her harsh vocals, which is great. And yeah, once you get the basic fry scream going, you can really modify your mouth shape to really affect the exact sound. Screams really heavily rely on mouth shape to change the resonance. You can hear a great example of that on her last scream where she actively modifies the resonance as the note is being sung.

[@ScruffySqueegee]

Tatiana is a different breed. This entire band is next level!

[@joespradley2323]

Awesome awesome awesome reaction! Love this song and her vocals OMG! Thanks, you really enjoyed being totally surprised, great reaction.🙏🏼🌹

[@davidpetersonharvey]

You've probably already learned that she is using her false folds. Her singing revolutionized my growling on the sax.

[@AlexMayorgaParra]

I recommend you hear PASSCODE - TAKING YOU OUT LIVE VERSION.

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

Alex Mayorga Parra💜🎶🎶💜

[@rytterl]

This is not vocal fry. Growling properly doesn't hurt you. Vocal fry can kill your throat if you do it enough and hurt you in the long term. Proper metal screaming is technique. That's why they can switch between that and clean tones without issue. Because it doesn't hurt them at all. It's just another register of their range.

[@travisbaker89]

Unleash the archers “tonight we ride”. Give it a listen

[@edgriswold8736]

Loved the timing on taking a drink. 1st one to not comment on her seitch from Growl to Belt tho. Too busy self-promoting ig, lol.

[@manny75586]

Jinjer reactions never fail to disappoint.

[@psychosocial1917]

These never get old with Jinger! 🤣🤣🤣

[@SongsFromASuitcase]

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