Voice Teacher Reacts to a KPOP Support/Resonance Compilation

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Sam Johnson

Sam Johnson

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@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Most of my issues with this video are because I do not believe how they described resonance leads to good singing. Pedagogically, asking people to open their throat leads to pulled chest, not a resonant and full sound. I believe that the video I am reacting to has confused open and resonant. By learning how to utilize different resonance strategies, I believe people can have more control over their resulting sound. Because my focus in these videos is on technique and pedagogy, not on critiquing sound choices, I favor the physics definition of resonance: "the reinforcement or prolongation of sound by reflection from a surface or by the synchronous vibration of a neighboring object." The problem with singers simply asking for a resonant/full sound by consciously trying to open their throat is that our sensory awareness is misleading. If you don't already know how to make that sound, you will probably add tension and inefficiency just by trying to open your throat. As a teacher of vocal technique I believe directing singers to a focus on good vowel choices and relaxation is a much better choice for finding an efficient and full sound. My entire focus is trying to help singers find easier ways to express themselves. Because of this my focus is on WHY sounds happen, not exclusively on the artist's interpretation. I consider myself a singer, but I am a teacher first. Singing and teaching are completely different. They help each other, but brilliant singers are often not the best teachers. Here are a few excerpts on the topic from Kenneth Bozeman in his book "Kinesthetic Voice Pedagogy" "Others echo the concern that a throaty, swallowed tone can result from attempts to open the throat. Some speech language pathologists are leery of open throat directives as being contrary to the frontal vibratory feedback typically sought in resonant voice therapy." - Kenneth Bozeman, Kinesthetic Voice Pedagogy "The principle challenge to effective throat opening is this: our kinesthesia (sensory awareness) of throat space is misleading--in fact, it is exactly backward. If you ask a group of people which vowel feels the most open throated, most will cite /a/, or which vowel the most closed-throated, most cite /i/. This is indeed the way it feels. If asked to inhale through their most exaggeratedly open-throated sensation, most people will make a yawny /a/, which upon inhalation will be accompanied by a moderately loud turbulent noise and cooling in the laryngopharynx (perceptual throat). Paradoxically the throat is rather narrow in the /a/ and at its most open posture with the vowel /i/, primarily due to the difference in tongue shape and tongue fronting of those vowels." - Kenneth Bozeman, Kinesthetic Voice Pedagogy Fight me
@anbar
@anbar 6 жыл бұрын
ROUND 1 FIGHT
@saraalazmi7643
@saraalazmi7643 6 жыл бұрын
👌🏻
@yaelovesdietcoke
@yaelovesdietcoke 6 жыл бұрын
Sam Johnson I LOVE YOU AND YOUR VIDEOS
@cstansfield1017
@cstansfield1017 6 жыл бұрын
Sam as always you're right and you should say it
@Aisha-ii5tv
@Aisha-ii5tv 6 жыл бұрын
That last two words though.
@Reign14forever
@Reign14forever 6 жыл бұрын
I love how passive aggressive you are
@nananana-zj5zn
@nananana-zj5zn 6 жыл бұрын
sam wanting to fight for 3 minutes straight
@senpaijecho
@senpaijecho 6 жыл бұрын
I love your face when you read the definition of resonance in that video xD
@HanQ28
@HanQ28 6 жыл бұрын
Senpai Jecho cringe overload loool
@DearKeith
@DearKeith 6 жыл бұрын
He was so disgusted lol
@bajeebies
@bajeebies 6 жыл бұрын
ikr lmao
@wiwi4299
@wiwi4299 6 жыл бұрын
Senpai Jecho OMG SENPAI ':U
@jussefosman
@jussefosman 6 жыл бұрын
Senpai Jecho right?!😂😂
@Sunnybias
@Sunnybias 6 жыл бұрын
7:57 “WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DUDE!!?” 😂😂 how to trigger a vocal teacher.
@MatthewPatelsHusband
@MatthewPatelsHusband 6 жыл бұрын
Sunny.bias YES LOL
@Liam-mv9zi
@Liam-mv9zi 6 жыл бұрын
Not the first vocal coach that reacted like this either lol
@lorenaavellaneda8873
@lorenaavellaneda8873 6 жыл бұрын
Voice teacher* He's a teacher 💕
@Sunnybias
@Sunnybias 6 жыл бұрын
Lorena Avellaneda oh sorry 😅
@lyseong5099
@lyseong5099 5 жыл бұрын
I’m s
@seulgibear4861
@seulgibear4861 6 жыл бұрын
He just got progressively angrier throughout the video and at about 15 mins in you can see he's done 😂😂
@yoitssydney5483
@yoitssydney5483 6 жыл бұрын
seulgibear it’s so funny😂😂
@jinnxx2729
@jinnxx2729 6 жыл бұрын
Why he's angry though 😅 sorry i ain't a musical person i don't get it😆
@divbythewindow
@divbythewindow 6 жыл бұрын
I know right. I enjoyed watching this video lol
@GetWellSoonR.E.M.
@GetWellSoonR.E.M. 5 жыл бұрын
kheri kitz its because most of these definitions in the video are sort of misconstrued and the examples in the video don't have much difference.
@alessandromoura3322
@alessandromoura3322 6 жыл бұрын
Thank God! Someone with REAL credentials and knowledge. When people talk about resonance here on youtube they refering to that "ringy", squillo sound used by operatic singers to project their voices over a an orchestra without artificial amplification. How can you expect that from pop singers? And why would someone need it when they have microphones to project their voices? Very educational video. Great job, dude!
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! How are you involved in the vocal world? I haven't heard anyone outside of the industry say squillo so casually.
@alessandromoura3322
@alessandromoura3322 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I studied classical singing in a conservatory for a year but lost my job and could not longer afford. But I plan to start again next year.
@divbythewindow
@divbythewindow 6 жыл бұрын
@@alessandromoura3322 good luck next year! 😊
@viviansytsui
@viviansytsui 6 жыл бұрын
This brings me back to when my music teacher got so frustrated with me not being able to project when singing high notes, needing to grab me a microphone like it was a crime to have one haha
@daalelli
@daalelli 6 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! This is the comment I was looking for! I wish I could figure out why they decided to use the wrong word for this, when a perfectly good word with definition already exists.
@cigimon4
@cigimon4 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is they try to use opera standards (terms/techniques) on pop music. When they say resonance they mean that forward ringy quality (that sound like a mix of vibrato and reverberation to me). And classical singers have/had to use that technique because they didn't have microphones and had to be heard by everyone on the theater
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Yesyesyes
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
I really love your comment. The more I think about it, I think my biggest problem with it was they were using Resonance to refer to a sound quality that they prefer, and Support as a vocal technique. I completely disagree with how they suggest this Resonance sound is achieved by singers.
@hyun808
@hyun808 6 жыл бұрын
The term resonance is a word that many in the vocal community refer to a note with optimal technique. The fact that you identify the differences between the supported and the "resonant" notes just supports the fact that there should be a proper word for this . OF COURSE everyone knows that all sound has resonance . NOONE needs to mention or discuss this LMAO . Relax . We use the term resonance to describe fantastic technique and strain free notes that is truly open and rings beautifully ... It's not a term used in classic training but it's the word that many uses . What's so hard to understand ? Tbh Noones saying supported singing sucks . Sing resonant ! It's just a term we used to quickly identify the different situations .CHILL
@badbada3003
@badbada3003 2 жыл бұрын
@@hyun808 That's still not how u use resonance lol
@triplej8666
@triplej8666 Жыл бұрын
@@badbada3003 sam johnsons seems to think it was to do with opening the throat, when no, the creator was referring to raising the soft palate
@emilygear6804
@emilygear6804 6 жыл бұрын
He was lowkey roasting the creator of that video 😂
@brightiris
@brightiris 6 жыл бұрын
I think it' a bit high key tho😂
@oop230
@oop230 6 жыл бұрын
Highkey lmao
@gisels.5769
@gisels.5769 6 жыл бұрын
😆😵😆🤣
@hyukgums
@hyukgums 6 жыл бұрын
mr sam johnson sir you're an intellectual i have little sense of what you're talking about but these videos are so interesting and i can feel my braincells increasing
@divbythewindow
@divbythewindow 6 жыл бұрын
SAME LMAO
@spillthattea88
@spillthattea88 6 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the truth 😂
@julianna6847
@julianna6847 6 жыл бұрын
Gaining my braincells back after watching 10 monsta x crack videos
@hannahlee6
@hannahlee6 5 жыл бұрын
skin: cleared braincells: increased hotel: trivago
@munirahmokhtar9006
@munirahmokhtar9006 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@edenlewis2538
@edenlewis2538 6 жыл бұрын
You sounded so annoyed. You look so done the whole video. I'm with you though. I dont have an extensive vocal music education but I was also a bit confused by this video. It seemed like they were saying just having support without "resonance" is a bad thing, but these people are pop singers so idk if it should matter as much.
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Thank you for watching!
@resurgingflame
@resurgingflame 6 жыл бұрын
It "seemed" but it clearly just show the differences between the two. Support is very important but having resonance just give you the best tonal quality & projection, which something that clearly give benefits to all kind of singing genre.
@AshleyLunaDavis
@AshleyLunaDavis 6 жыл бұрын
hey friend, please don't use "triggered" in that way. being "triggered" means dealing with the emotions of a previous trauma, not just being annoyed.
@simplicity7862
@simplicity7862 4 жыл бұрын
Ash Siobhan triggered - caused by particular action, process, or situation. (Nothing to do with only trauma)
@zeff8820
@zeff8820 3 жыл бұрын
@@resurgingflame but actually, they don't have that ring quality, a ring quality is very rare in pop and contemporary music.
@taericXD
@taericXD 6 жыл бұрын
This is not a "Voice Teacher React", This is a Vocal Teacher Verses! He is ready to fight! Can't wait for the next video!
@qtpr8675
@qtpr8675 6 жыл бұрын
This prove most so called Kpop fans music experts are just throwing useless info to make other Kpop vocalist look weak also proves that they know nothing
@akubertanya9704
@akubertanya9704 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly,, i've been wondering that too even i dont have any knowledge regarding vocals but, i mean i feel something is not right. what a shame,, this is the problem with bias.
@bluethunder7058
@bluethunder7058 6 жыл бұрын
The compilation isn't actually wrong. It just shows resonance and support in certain definitions, the definition he associates with what he hears. Most music teachers still argue on what resonant, and support, is.
@jazzy3120_
@jazzy3120_ 6 жыл бұрын
E X A C T L Y
@SelphieFairy
@SelphieFairy 6 жыл бұрын
Tbf it's not just Kpop fans. A lot of youtube in general is littered with awful singing "experts" like this. It seems intimidating until you realize most of them have no clue what they're talking about.
@melodycao5376
@melodycao5376 5 жыл бұрын
Um...the kpop vocal analysis is literally the definition of objective. And their pedagogy isn't wrong. It's just that Sam is using a different definition, the physical one.
@darkscyther1132
@darkscyther1132 6 жыл бұрын
Very well observed Sam. There are so many videos just throwing away too many terms inadequately and it really annoys me. There are people that learn from youtube videos and even comments so people should be more thoughtful and not just throw terms for ppl to be impressed by their knowledge. For example I see so many people saying stupid and unnecessary things for head voice and mixed voice it really is concerning. Thanks for being very honest and trying to give people reasonable explanations you're really incredible congratz.
@heartleywrld
@heartleywrld 6 жыл бұрын
we love an intellectual 😔💓
@Kiki-reads
@Kiki-reads 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the difference between support and resonance! I feel that I can be a better listener with all of the information you are providing :)
@hefeibao
@hefeibao 3 жыл бұрын
This, exactly. He helps me be a better listener - at least a more informed listener - and for that I'm grateful.
@AvyLe
@AvyLe 6 жыл бұрын
damn and i KNOW that this video has a lot of views. i thought i understood what they were trying to say about resonance, i don’t have any vocal knowledge but i mean you can hear the differences between “support” singers and “resonance” singers but after being educated by this video,, it’s like they’re only equating resonance to having a fuller sounding singing voice. thanks for the knowledge!
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly right. If their video was trying to show a fuller sound vs a less full sound comparison, they did a pretty decent job. However, they tried to use it as a teaching tool to help people create that sound. I believe that the way they ask people to create that sound is harmful.
@melodycao5376
@melodycao5376 5 жыл бұрын
well the comparison is still correct as per the definitions given, for 'resonance' the sound to me, is from a lifted soft palate and is not projected through nose and generally lacks tension in the tongue and jaw.
@art0salt
@art0salt 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA omg the way you react to the wrong definitions killed me 😂 The corrections of them helped me understand the way you explained them in the beginning. Love the new thumbnails, too!
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Dastiel4ever
@Dastiel4ever 6 жыл бұрын
You can tell that you are a legit music teacher because of the knowledge you have, you give full explanations and take your time telling the why's the what's and the how's. I am wanting to know more about singing techniques because I know that it is important for not only K-Pop idols to be good singing live but really any musicians and in order to understand and fully comprehend that you have to know at least something about how a person sings and achieves a certain sound or quality in their voices. I know Super Junior and EXO have really good techniques when it comes to singing live but I think that's because 1. they taught these kids since they were really young, 2. they have really amazing vocalists and 3. they have the right coaches and trainers to help them achieve this. You are a great teacher I can tell by how you are in this video and in other videos.
@nicole-kr8qi
@nicole-kr8qi 6 жыл бұрын
"But who cares? Honestly, who cares?" 😂😂😂😂😂
@gisellenieto8491
@gisellenieto8491 6 жыл бұрын
And here's when I realize why I need to know that open vowels have a higher F1 than close/mid close vowels and another stuff about acoustic phonetics 😂 love it!
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSSSS
@Lynnphedema
@Lynnphedema 6 жыл бұрын
Their voices had completely different qualities as well, the “resonant” ones were just deeper and a little more soulful while the “support” one had a lighter quality. I’d also say they sounded different to me because the “resonant” ones had more reverb, but that’s about it.
@JakeReeves001
@JakeReeves001 6 жыл бұрын
IHaveNoIdeaWhyGoogleLetsYourNameBeThisLongWaitItGetsLongerSeriouslyWhyAreYouStillReadingThis what are you talking about?? Most of the resonant ones did not have reverb and they sounded better do you not have an ear to music he even said the resonant singers had a more ringy healthy sound
@Lynnphedema
@Lynnphedema 6 жыл бұрын
Jake Reeves The clearly have a reverb effect. It’s not hard to miss if you listen closely.
@JakeReeves001
@JakeReeves001 6 жыл бұрын
IHaveNoIdeaWhyGoogleLetsYourNameBeThisLongWaitItGetsLongerSeriouslyWhyAreYouStillReadingThis All reverb does is make you sound larger.... many American singers such as Beyoncé and Ariana also use reverb. Reverb does not correct bad technique or strain....
@Lynnphedema
@Lynnphedema 6 жыл бұрын
Funny, I never said it did. All I said was the clips in where they sounded "Resonant" had more reverb than the ones that didn't in most cases.
@melodycao5376
@melodycao5376 5 жыл бұрын
Resonant also sounds less compressed
@marc6186
@marc6186 6 жыл бұрын
i have actually watched the original video, and i was honestly confused about the definitions/ comparison. i am not musically knowledgeable but i had a subject on engineering school called acoustics and was taught about the nature and properties of sound, so i knew that their definition of resonance was a bit off, and i wasn't able to discern what they were trying to show. thank you so much for this reaction video, it really cleared up a lot of things to me 😀😀
@veronagrant7637
@veronagrant7637 6 жыл бұрын
This vid should be called: Vocal teacher being TRIGGERED for 25 minutes 😁😁😁
@miguelangelperez5065
@miguelangelperez5065 6 жыл бұрын
For 25 minutes straight 😂
@mariari_6890
@mariari_6890 6 жыл бұрын
Please react to Kim Jonghyun - Y si fuera ella!! 😭
@leahmason9589
@leahmason9589 6 жыл бұрын
Mariari_ I miss him so much😭
@lconstable7934
@lconstable7934 6 жыл бұрын
Please please
@Awakening_Sunshine
@Awakening_Sunshine 6 жыл бұрын
Kpop Song and dance covers I do too. We will always miss our Angel
@Awakening_Sunshine
@Awakening_Sunshine 6 жыл бұрын
Mariari_ please please PLEASE!
@blingblingisjonghyun6178
@blingblingisjonghyun6178 6 жыл бұрын
Mariari_ YESSSS
@EXIDek
@EXIDek 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t watch this rn, but I assume you're correcting misinformation in this video, which is cool if you're not another scam vocal coach KZbinr like some others on here... Anyways I made this video when I had a very black and white picture of what good singing technique is, and I've since learned not to continue to make videos like this based on the limited knowledge I had/have. So thank you for watching my video and commenting on it :)
@ysfr
@ysfr 6 жыл бұрын
He's not a scam vocal coach for sure, and you should watch it, he raised some really good points.
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
You're awesome.
@akubertanya9704
@akubertanya9704 6 жыл бұрын
LOL, what a shame,, this is the problem with bias in K-pop music industry, they will praise they singers they love and bring down the singers they dont like because of BIAS. great that you realize that making videos vocal without wide music knowledge only lead you to misguide many people into your likings which is actually wrong but, you did that because of your blind love to K-pop so, its understandable since K-pop industry music also based on looks and dance not vocals hence the fans also know nothing about vocals but looks and dance. we all understand. you've must learned a lot from this and hope you make new videos for us to watch.
@EXIDek
@EXIDek 6 жыл бұрын
TV Sexy mhmm no this ain’t it. I always based the examples on what I had objectively read about their skill level (even if the vocal theory behind it was misguided). Not to push certain vocalists and intentionally try to make them appear better/worse than they are. And yes, K-Pop is very focused on visuals and dance, but there are still many great and decent vocalists in the genre worth talking about in relation to vocal technique.
@EyeSnipeYou
@EyeSnipeYou 6 жыл бұрын
EXIDek rip
@bity12mompi85
@bity12mompi85 6 жыл бұрын
You are adorable... I just love how passionate you are. What are you talking about, dude? LOL.
@lann7707
@lann7707 6 жыл бұрын
You are correct. As someone who approaches music in "ears happy" mode, I can't tell the difference between most of these. They are all beautiful and I can feel the story either way.
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
That's literally all that matters
@joojoo5732
@joojoo5732 6 жыл бұрын
It’s so nice to see a vocal teacher giving real criticism and actually telling the viewers facts, it seems like so many people are putting ‘vocal coach’ in their title when in fact they don’t even bring up half of the things said in your videos
@hchoi31
@hchoi31 6 жыл бұрын
i like how when Ailee comes out with that "I will Always Love You" he quietly whispers "she's so good" ... LOL he knows the good shiet
@kassandrasanojamirsjach6479
@kassandrasanojamirsjach6479 6 жыл бұрын
chinu ikrrr lol
@tyishaallen5061
@tyishaallen5061 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading. There are so many artist that we want you to react to. I hope you don't get overwhelmed with all of our request 🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️
@lora900
@lora900 6 жыл бұрын
here's one of the most beautiful voices out there. I have a small list of Taeyeon's songs 1. I'm all ears 2. Rain 3. I 4. UR 5. Dear Santa 6. Gemini 7. 11:11 8. Christmas Without You 9. Time Lapse
@lianakil5839
@lianakil5839 6 жыл бұрын
All of her songs tbh💕
@stephaniemaranon9805
@stephaniemaranon9805 6 жыл бұрын
And fine
@glowfly1000
@glowfly1000 6 жыл бұрын
what about fireeeeeeeeee com on
@btsjohnjohncook2421
@btsjohnjohncook2421 6 жыл бұрын
Where’s shhhh especially the live version.
@tachapantejasen3238
@tachapantejasen3238 6 жыл бұрын
UR and 11:11 are masterpieces
@Layla-dd9pg
@Layla-dd9pg 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, you probably won’t see my comment but when I was 14/15 I wanted to teach myself how to sing and ended up finding this thread on a K-Pop forum that was on vocal pedagogy. I became apart of that thread; however, we used to regurgitate a lot of nonsense (like was seen in the video above) and once I received classical vocal training I really started understanding that resonance should be treated as a spectrum and there’s not a dichotomy between support and resonance. Also there was a lack of understanding that someone projecting less volume is not necessarily a sure fire indicator of bad technique, and dropping the chest voice whilst ascending is a good thing. I eventually left that thread because Kpop vocal analysts - as they love to call themselves - love to be hostile. Anyway, I loved this video!
@melodycao5376
@melodycao5376 5 жыл бұрын
Well the kpop vocalist site do treat resonance as a spectrum, baekhyun sings entirely out his nose but he is still still classed as producing resonance because he produces nasal resonance. and I've never seen any analysis on the site say pulling chest voice up is good. in fact, it frequently says this is bad and leads to vocal damage. Basically I'm just saying the site aren't clueless and they've improved a lot since they scrapped their vocalist ranking system.
@poptopics1772
@poptopics1772 10 ай бұрын
@@melodycao5376But the fans have kept it alive
@dawna23
@dawna23 6 жыл бұрын
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK !!! love this reaction 😍 could listen to you ramble for hours
@mayaarr8097
@mayaarr8097 6 жыл бұрын
Sam getting all worked up and defensive over the singers and being ready to fight the owner of the video is so funny 😂😂😂
@hanniefrei
@hanniefrei 6 жыл бұрын
Love this channel and form of therapy. You learn and appreciate kpop more. Whether he likes my bias or not because I value honesty instead of fake appreciation of my babies and it makes me more happy if he does like or praise them. Lol Bob, Mamamoo and Beast/Highlight reactions please, they all have great vocals and Always performs live.
@Awakening_Sunshine
@Awakening_Sunshine 6 жыл бұрын
Please react to SHINee (group that Onew, who sang Nessun Dorma, is in). Their live vocals are AMAZING (they’re known for having the best live vocals in the industry. Also another member of the group, Jonghyun’s version of Y Si Fuera Ella
@hinaralove12
@hinaralove12 6 жыл бұрын
Yes please do a full video of different videos
@miso5670
@miso5670 6 жыл бұрын
yes yes yes omg yes
@lavelycode8249
@lavelycode8249 6 жыл бұрын
He did
@Awakening_Sunshine
@Awakening_Sunshine 6 жыл бұрын
@@lavelycode8249 yup, I've seen it, thanks! 😊
@cookiecrumbler8892
@cookiecrumbler8892 6 жыл бұрын
You know what I loved about this: "They all sound fine. It's just that they have chosen to tell a story in a different way." Poetically said. After watching your videos it is really clear that the act of singing is a technique in itself, and if you have mastered it you can choose how you want your voice to be portrayed/vocalized/heard.
@tanyadyer3853
@tanyadyer3853 6 жыл бұрын
The longer you watch the video, the more annoyed he becomes. We can see it. Its nice to hear what you have to say when you pause the video as well. Your take and thoughts on things.
@dandandan420
@dandandan420 6 жыл бұрын
I'M SO SORRY THIS IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT BUT YOUR INTRO ALWAYS REMINDS ME OF THAT "IM YOUR FREESTYLE DANCE TEACHER" MEME OMG I LOVE YOU THO
@pizal
@pizal 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@minty6891
@minty6891 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm renata bliss, and I'm your freestyle dance teacher.
@dandandan420
@dandandan420 6 жыл бұрын
@@minty6891 hi my name is sam johnson and im a voice teacher
@sophiemalagday5227
@sophiemalagday5227 6 жыл бұрын
YES HAHAHA
@eduuuardo18
@eduuuardo18 6 жыл бұрын
React: Kpop strain vs support
@kennethsoshi03
@kennethsoshi03 6 жыл бұрын
*I think the definition of resonant whoever made that video was:* *Resonance = have a "ring" sound* *Support = Yeah supported notes but don't have a "ring" sound*
@missingpearls
@missingpearls 6 жыл бұрын
I like the way you explain things. English isn’t my first language and you make it really easy to understand.
@MooKrob9935
@MooKrob9935 3 ай бұрын
RIGHT??? I just saw your comment before I'm going to comment mine. English isn't my fist language too but I can understand every single words that he speaked but for me I didn't understand what he speak 100% but one thing I want to say is he speaking super super clearly and easy to understand for me.
@slytherchan
@slytherchan 6 жыл бұрын
Not a voice coach but I'm a speech therapist and work with people with voice disorders so I know my fair share of knowledge of resonance and support. I kinda cringed at the definition of terms by the uploader and the terms were kinda thrown off carelessly. I think she kinda just did a comparison of which singer a fuller vocal quality. Anyway, it was nice of you to educate about how these terms should be used. It was a nice video. Have a great day!
@ieva5082
@ieva5082 6 жыл бұрын
I've been to few voice teachers and they seemed nowhere close professionally like Sam, he explains everything so well and professionally yet so easy to understand. You sir are a GENIUS. I'm learning so much just from these videos.
@militzadelmoral8188
@militzadelmoral8188 6 жыл бұрын
Pleasee react to Girls' Generation, they have a lot of great performance. Theres a list: - Taeyeon and Tiffany "Lost in Love". - SNSD - Gee band mix - SNSD - Goodbye in Skeetchbook - Taeyeon - Hush Hush; hush hush - Taeyeon "UR" in Butterfly Kiss in Busan. - Taeyeon "Take a Bow" - SNSD - Into the New world - Ballad ver.
@jjl6438
@jjl6438 5 жыл бұрын
Militza Del Moral please do Lost in Love or Into the New world Ballad version
@fourseasons5198
@fourseasons5198 5 жыл бұрын
Sis please add Tiffany's moon & sunrise Tiffany's Heartbreak hotel TTS's dear santa
@abzbunny
@abzbunny 6 жыл бұрын
Please react to Lee Hongki and Yoo Hwe Seung Still love you and FtIsland Wind💖
@tyishaallen5061
@tyishaallen5061 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I support this
@missingpearls
@missingpearls 6 жыл бұрын
An intellectual among us
@wrWati
@wrWati 6 жыл бұрын
Yessss
@Pitye
@Pitye 6 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone suggesting Hongki/FTISLAND and Hweseung (I'm a huge N.Flying fan so that makes me happy, too!)
@juneseghni
@juneseghni 6 жыл бұрын
ooh yes, please
@globalkingsexo8071
@globalkingsexo8071 6 жыл бұрын
btw, are there any artists you would consider as "perfect" singers like who have one of the best vocal techniques etc? would love to know that!
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Stevie Wonder, Luciano Pavarotti, Michael Jackson all come close. Ultimately technique only matters as far as it lets you make the sounds you need to to tell a story. When working with singers though, technique is the main way to make a difference in overall quality and sustainability.
@minghaoscarrot358
@minghaoscarrot358 6 жыл бұрын
legends only
@eyebrowstj
@eyebrowstj 6 жыл бұрын
@@SamJohnsonVoice I'm so glad you mentioned Michael Jackson. He's so underrated as a singer. Most people talk about his dancing, but his vocals were also amazing. Stevie as well. I really love most of those trained under Motown. I'm not familiar with Luciano's work, but he gets so many accolades, he has to be amazing too.
@jordanelkins7708
@jordanelkins7708 6 жыл бұрын
I genuinely feel like I learn so much from watching your videos. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to watch these videos and share your knowledge!!
@megabix004
@megabix004 6 жыл бұрын
I think resonance is simply the wrong word for what the person who made the video describes. I see many people use resonance in the same way, and it honestly makes sense when you think of it as a full, open, forward sound that is only achieved by supporting, opening your throat and placing your voice in your mask. It’s the most pleasing to the ear, but you might not always want to resonate (in the sense that they mean). Of course you resonate even if you’re not doing that, which is why I think it’s the wrong word. Maybe, instead of resonance, they should say optimal placement or optimal sound or something like that. Anyway, I just think there’s a clear difference between the “supported” and the “resonance” examples in the video, so of course there is a difference in sound, and that’s what’s trying to be explained. By the way, I think your videos are great and very informative. Too many nowadays put vocal coach in their video titles without knowing anything about vocal technique, and just kiss ass to make sure they get views. It’s very refreshing to see you, and of course informative! I’m just a student, after all!
@ieva5082
@ieva5082 6 жыл бұрын
*Starlights* , like this if you want him to react to VIXX.
@MatthewPatelsHusband
@MatthewPatelsHusband 6 жыл бұрын
Lol whenever you shake your head and make a disgusted face I be like "what are you thinking bro? Share to us 😂" And thanks for explaining all this Cause I see this channel and believe of the things they write : * You are amazing ♥
@funsiesta
@funsiesta 6 жыл бұрын
Coming from someone with no vocal education or background, i'm really thankful that you explained and corrected this so that id didn't learn the wrong stuff hehe
@algrina04
@algrina04 4 жыл бұрын
I love how he saluted my biased singers : Junsu (Tvxq forever), Jung Dongha (master singer... just sayin) Sandeul (B1a4), Park Hyoshin, Chen (Exo), DO (Exo)
@rmrc4179
@rmrc4179 6 жыл бұрын
Teacher, please react to AKMU Dinosaur.
@tier240
@tier240 6 жыл бұрын
Any AKMU would be amazing, I would love to hear what he has to say about their voices, but that song is just wonderful. 😍
@NostraBloom
@NostraBloom 6 жыл бұрын
you seem so passionate and into what you are saying, it's cute and interesting, thank you for clearing up the misconceptions!
@rosari_to
@rosari_to 6 жыл бұрын
Please react to more of MAMAMOO's and Son Seung Yeon's Immortal Songs perfomances. Love your videos💕💕
@joysalander1045
@joysalander1045 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, react to Son Seung Yeon -I am wind
@endahhinata3081
@endahhinata3081 6 жыл бұрын
Son seung yeoooon
@m.ashraf3341
@m.ashraf3341 6 жыл бұрын
yes plss react to Son Seung Yeon
@anjirhiannon2912
@anjirhiannon2912 6 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your opinion on Song Sohee's vocals, she's a traditional Korean singer She's sang Arirang Alone (the same song that you reacted to Sohyang singing), and I'd love to see your opinion on how they both interpret the song
@jaydennunez8584
@jaydennunez8584 5 жыл бұрын
For me his definition for resonance was perfect and I get it much better now
@JakeReeves001
@JakeReeves001 5 жыл бұрын
Jayden Nuñez the definition for “resonance”’in this video is called “squillo”
@globalkingsexo8071
@globalkingsexo8071 6 жыл бұрын
great video! but sohyang, lena park, seungyeon etc are NOT kpop... they’re simply korean! just so you know!
@SamJohnsonVoice
@SamJohnsonVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Fair point! I was just going off of the original video.
@bluethunder7058
@bluethunder7058 6 жыл бұрын
they're BEYOND kpop. kpop can't handle that kind of power they have lol
@seasonoftheglass587
@seasonoftheglass587 5 жыл бұрын
Kpop actually stands for any "Korean popular music"
@Mini_Min_
@Mini_Min_ 6 жыл бұрын
What you elaborate in the beginning sums up really nicely and clearly what I've read in Lilli Lehmann's "How to sing". There is so much information and detail in that book it can become quite overwhelming. Wish you could do a video summarizing everything in it and "translating" it in a way beginners would be able to understand. I think it would help and clarify a lot for everyone who wishes to learn how to have a good, solid technique and make the most of their singing.
@SouthofIllusion
@SouthofIllusion 6 жыл бұрын
Love, love, love this content. Thanks for taking the time to put out these educational videos. The variety you give us is just awesome! I learn so much from you
@vicky-ep3pl
@vicky-ep3pl 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video once before, & you have completely opened my eyes to the meaning of support & resonance ! You’re videos are literally one of my faves :-) keep it up ! && I recommend reacting to some performances from a korean program called “Fantastic Duo”
@daveclariondaing597
@daveclariondaing597 6 жыл бұрын
I really love when singers have a bright ringing sound. I don't know why. It just sounds pleasing to my ears
@sarigueyaextraterrestre4054
@sarigueyaextraterrestre4054 6 жыл бұрын
He was so done but stopped a second just to say that Ailee is so good 😂 Thats our queen
@bigvroccoli3726
@bigvroccoli3726 6 жыл бұрын
Wow we believe in an intellectual like you 💝 You'll be a great professor! I love your explanation^^ It's easy to understand. Thank you, Sam, I've earned new and more knowledge from your videos:)
@yaelovesdietcoke
@yaelovesdietcoke 6 жыл бұрын
UR FACE WHEN READING THE DEFINITIONS KILLED ME JFNSNDJD
@terimasketir425
@terimasketir425 Жыл бұрын
"there are different way to tell stories" thats what i was thinking, thanks
@Fuhentekinasenshi
@Fuhentekinasenshi 6 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie... it was extremely entertaining how frustrated you we re getting!
@kiwisvideos0
@kiwisvideos0 6 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for this... but that's true lol.
@jane-ne5xk
@jane-ne5xk 6 жыл бұрын
When he smiled because wendy finally did what he was looking for, that's our vocalist right there! Im so proud!
@chrissyalapo-calg9748
@chrissyalapo-calg9748 4 жыл бұрын
smile 123 I love that he complimented every single one of Wendy's clips, shows how good she is. And it seems like she really doesn't need to be hitting every high note with "resonance" since she's already a great singer for supporting the notes. It's funny how people are like "she's so good but her resonance is inconsistent"🙄 through this video I realized that it actually doesn't really matter, she's already in a league of her own in the 3rd gen💁💅🔥
@chloei_
@chloei_ 6 жыл бұрын
It seems like they’re saying that resonance is only the ‘ringy’ noise heard while singing. If that’s what they mean, then I heard this ‘ring’ in many of the ‘supported’ voices so their claims are really inconsistent.
@iampermanent5891
@iampermanent5891 6 жыл бұрын
Please do more kpop reactions like this, a lot of compilations made by kpop fans are really biased and uninformed, yet are presented as facts which creates a cycle for new kpop fans who watch said videos. I’m tired of fans thinking they are musical experts. I appreciate your impartial unbiased professional opinion.
@ellyoddle
@ellyoddle 4 жыл бұрын
I’m only six minutes into the video but I’ve only now realized that the creator of the original video intended to try and compare strictly classical pedagogy to these pop singers (hence the definition of resonance being used-the “true resonance” they’re describing being the ping/ring found in bel canto singing). and that “open throat shape” is literally just a lack of tension in the vocal tract (allowing for the space to be “open” so that steady stream of air can flow more freely). I haven’t finished the video yet and I see a lot of comments noting that sam’s progressively more critical of the video as it goes on. interesting. I’ll edit this comment once I’m finished with the video and have more to say lol EDIT: okay yeah it’s definitely just viewing kpop vocalists through classical pedagogy (i.e. especially through hearing that third harmonic, the “singer’s formant”, that sam describes at 11:52, which creates that ping in bel canto). idk how Sam was trained but I also come from a background of classical vocal pedagogy so I see what the creator was aiming to do with using “resonance” vs “support” as terms to compare techniques. this definitely should’ve been clarified in the original video for non-classically trained vocalists especially, and I agree that there definitely is a problem in perceiving a classically “resonant” voice as optimal for kpop, seeing as these are POP singers who don’t necessarily NEED to have the same resonance as a classical or operatic singer in that industry. but it’s interesting seeing a reaction/analysis on a video based in classical pedagogy from someone who doesn’t teach strictly bel canto technique. I wouldn’t say neither Sam nor the original video creator are right or wrong, it’s just two different techniques and different terms. essentially, they’re both right.
@SkiesofViolet
@SkiesofViolet 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you react to Exid Solji! She was a vocal trainer for Kpop trainees that then joined a Kpop group!
@TryToEscape1
@TryToEscape1 6 жыл бұрын
I never comment on videos and I really mean NEVER. But I felt the urge to write this one because I just want to express how amazing Sam is in explaining all the vocal techniques and issues. I learn SO MUCH from those videos and I'm super grateful I found this channel! GO SAM!
@leticiasoarescalvi
@leticiasoarescalvi 6 жыл бұрын
I like Sam's videos, even when it is not Kpop related! Xoxo from 🇧🇷 Where is Sam from?
@RB-zw6ym
@RB-zw6ym 6 жыл бұрын
Omg you sounded so heated and it was great!! 😂 tbh they all sound the same to me after a while. But I enjoyed listening to your input and opinions. 💜
@Isabella-js6ce
@Isabella-js6ce 6 жыл бұрын
His face while reading the definitions😂😂😂
@KiwiEvilFruit
@KiwiEvilFruit 6 жыл бұрын
Love listening to your comments! It helps me think more about ways to improve my own technique.
@raissapdr
@raissapdr 6 жыл бұрын
oh finally youngjae appears in one of these compilation videos :) people tend to forget he sings :) anyways, I've been learning so much by watching these reactions! i'm thankful!
@christinetheravenclaw27
@christinetheravenclaw27 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your explanations that make it easy for us to understand :) Have you heard of "Song Sohee"? She is a young singer of traditional Korean music (=gugak). This singing style is very interesting. She covered songs like "Lost" and "Tomorrow" on a music show. Maybe this might be interesting for you? :)
@cristina613
@cristina613 6 жыл бұрын
it's so funny seeing actual vocal coaches react to these type of videos because I know they don't make much sense lmao
@vivimfranco
@vivimfranco 6 жыл бұрын
I''m def addicted to his videos ;-; I see the title of the video and I keep waiting to see the approval smile :C
@JakeReeves001
@JakeReeves001 5 жыл бұрын
Sam you left out the most important part of the video!! To explain what the fuller and stronger tonal quality they are referring to is called “squillo” and is used in classical and opera singers for amplified projection
@zeff8820
@zeff8820 3 жыл бұрын
All voice is resonated but it doens't mean it has a ringing quality, a real squillo is ringing, not all resonance have this quality, just lik that compilation, they don't ring but they resonated, squillo in pop and contemporary singer is very rare, i think Whitney and Celine have a true ring in their vocal.
@eternal6257
@eternal6257 2 жыл бұрын
the resonance one sound more free like almost tensionless ig ? and they also sound a lot louder
@Maria308.
@Maria308. 6 жыл бұрын
Please react to taeyeon her song " i " live please please
@JakeReeves001
@JakeReeves001 5 жыл бұрын
I believe what you are referring to Mr. Johnson is “resonant” not “resonance or known as “squillo” by proper name ” squillo or a full ringing sound requires air flow from all three passages as well as raised soft palette to maximize space and good placement to maximize projection
@ieva5082
@ieva5082 6 жыл бұрын
I've been to few voice teachers and they seemed nowhere close professionally like Sam, he explains everything so well and professionally yet so easy to understand. You sir are a GENIUS. I'm learning so much just from these videos. *I would love you to react to VIXX, especially to Leo (from VIXX). He has an amazing voice, I'm sure you wont be disappointed.*
@pterocardio
@pterocardio 3 жыл бұрын
As the OP of the video you're reacting to has said, they definitely got the definition behind this all wrong. But as someone who also sings and has been researching about how to sing healthier, I do not think the terms "support" and "resonance" when properly defined are inherently bad or incorrect. Of course we always produce resonance when we sing, but people just often use these terms to pertain to healthier vocal technique which I think is so important. I know there are still many disputes even among the vocal community but I really hope the community finds the middle ground soon. Your explanation in the pinned comment is a great reason to improve upon the definition and use of these terms so I hope those points eventually get incorporated in the instruction of "support"/"resonance"
@minghaoscarrot358
@minghaoscarrot358 6 жыл бұрын
r.i.p video owner’s channel
@vampr3751
@vampr3751 6 жыл бұрын
Well now I know how to trigger a vocal teacher now
@mwyz
@mwyz Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy a lot of the discussion/content/focus on live vocal performances within the Kpop sphere, but personally I find the discourse on the "meh, their technique sucks" or "oh they were straining so they're bad" to be really close-minded or limiting. I like how your channel and this video in particular explains how things can be different but still good, how there's more than one way "to tell a story" as you put it. It's not that I think every sound is created equal, but there's a lot personal preferences that I think people online will try to pass off as a definitive standard of good or bad.
@ikyune1665
@ikyune1665 6 жыл бұрын
I thought that I was late, turns out that I was pretty early!
@ilymelody1590
@ilymelody1590 6 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid or teenagers, I think singing is just singing you know? but gosh, I am so wrong about it. theres so much happening when you sing and I was flabbergasted. I mean, I'm not very educated about all of these music and voice department, but I'd love to know more . by watching your videos , I kinda get extra knowledge and it's really good!
@jellyjilli1004
@jellyjilli1004 6 жыл бұрын
I love how he's so dedicated to explain a lot of stuff but all I could do was sit here looking at him and smiling but really not understanding anything.
@genesismorejon6428
@genesismorejon6428 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, I really love your videos, not only because you are very objetive (which is awesome, because many people are biased in their videos in order to gain views and being liked, and stuff), but you also teach all of us a lot of things about singing. I literally know nothing about singing and I've really tried to learn it, but it's really difficult and I do get so confused most of the time, but you somehow manage to make us all understand and get everything instantly! I'm so glad I've come across your amazing KZbin channel :) Plus, your voice is very soft and you pronounce everything so well! You may think it's weird for me to point that out, but as a non-native English speaker, it's amazing to find someone who talks so clearly that it's so easy to understand. Please, keep up the good work! :)
@zalanpoczkodi3243
@zalanpoczkodi3243 6 жыл бұрын
I really love how you became mad 😂 good video btw
@abbiea1237
@abbiea1237 6 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely amazing to listen to and learn from. I so respect everything you say and comment on. I really don't think this or the last vid you saw is a good representation of the so many incredible vocalists. There were a few here though that are some of my favorites not because I am an idol lover or have a bias since of the 3 I mention only one is even an "idol" singer but because all 3 sing with more emotion in every fiber of their being and have the ability to make you feel what ever they are singing. One female I really love was Ali who does not just have high notes but can sing lower more raspy if needed. Jung Dong Ha who you commented on the reason he might sing the way he does is he became legendary as being the singer for one of the most legendary rock groups of all time in Korea who have been around for decades. He was accepted into the group and performed with them until several years ago where he since is constantly working on switching up how and when he sings those high notes which you have commented on. But there is no denying he being able to convey passion and emotion while singing that just can overwhelm you! I would love for you to hear "Goose's Dream" that he performed for "Immortal Song" a Korean show where famous artist sing famous songwriters or othe legendary singers songs and the best one wins by amount of votes the audience gives them. Mind you these artists many of them are legendary in their own rights which makes this show phenomenal to see, it broadcasts on KBS World TV and even has subtitles. The last of the 3 was Sandeul who is actually an idol but surprised everyone just how good he really was when performing on "Immortal Songs" . He also sings very emotionally but also has incredible range especially with higher registry. I'm a laymen but I am just conveying my personal opinion and what I personally experienced hearing them sing. I believe also knowing how to sell or convey a song is so important as well. The 3 I listed are able to do this. From idol groups for me it's JIMIN from BTS. I would love and so appreciate your opinion and observations on JImin's sing abilities by either listening to "LIE" or "SERENDIPITY" , Even K-Media "Insight News" called his performance "legendary" after seeing him perform it live both his vocals and his dancing which he is able to do while singing! Since most Kpop groups have at least 7 - 12 members some beyond good ones can get lost in the shuffle. 👍😍❤️💜❤️👌👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏
@melodyilagan3164
@melodyilagan3164 6 жыл бұрын
You are a blessing to all of us. 😊
@whyisseungkwannotmarriedto1353
@whyisseungkwannotmarriedto1353 6 жыл бұрын
YESYOUGOOOATHEFAKEPEOPLEWHOTHINKTHEYKNOWWHATTHEYTALKABOUT!!!!!!!!
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