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[@余翊安-d2y]

trade offer I receive: 12 minutes of your time you receive: seizure

[@CozyKrecker]

and 5 asterite + a relic in the best case scenario :)

[@someflatsoda9879]

Shut up and take my radiant Axi relic

[@CozyKrecker]

@@someflatsoda9879 By the time you take that one radiant axi relic, i'd have opened 7-8 relics, and have traces to refine 2-3 relics

[@ZedDiDragon]

"An 18 minute video. I guess he's cracking a few relics." 18 minutes later: "Oh."

[@Andicus]

"I guess he's cracking a singular relic*." So unfortunate. It's really just not worth the time to do these void storms.

[@drake3004]

@@Andicus it’s fun tho

[@xleplayVA]

Yea, just like how warframe itself as a concept is great, I like what I saw, with the spaceship battle concept followed b Y you directly invading the ship for your tile set, but it seems way too inefficient. Maybe make it like 5 or 10 relics at once, and then we are talking

[@ottolees7208]

Us : Voidstorms are an unrewarding mess. DE : Understood, nerfing Sevagoth.

[@kumbajamalord435]

Wym? ;-;

[@MerryGamer]

Did this already happen?

[@Deathvalley1980]

:)))

[@KumaBones]

wait, did they nerf him already?

[@xytac]

The fact that people are confused as to whether or not this has happened is a testament to DE's repeated mistakes

[@matthewdaddino336]

idk why they just dont make the ships be corrupted and have it drop void traces instead of going into the ship

[@feralforlorn]

people wanted the RJ to not be a content island so their "fix" was to make the RJ have no real value and only be a taxi to normal missions which now resulted in this state of "do RJ for 3 minutes, jump into a ship-mission and then back to ship to extract"

[@djixi98]

Exactly

[@LemurLegiCZ]

That would actually require new assets and code. Warframe is running precisely into the same issue they said they were warned about when looking for a publisher years back - they can't put create new content fast enough and they have less than stellar results of asset reuse.

[@istvankarolyfarkas6125]

@@feralforlorn I enjoy Grineer Railjack missions way more than Corpus ones....

[@635574]

I also agree there should be at least one opportunity to crack extra relic by killing corruted fighters. If something takes 5-10m depending on mode it needs at least 2 relics. Also they should make the reactant voidstorm counter work based on host so late joiners dont get fucked when skirmish objectibe was already done. I am naming my ship The Fake EmpyReal Taxi anyway.

[@rapindagame8995]

While you were doing this, someone have open like 10 relics in a capture mission.

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

you'd have 2 opened relics in a survival mission before even finishing one in a void storm

[@KVG_]

And lost his last brain cells by doing those 10 captures.

[@longps9528]

And even then, 10 relics in 18 minutes is still kinda slow xD

[@tundrastreaming]

DE: why won't people play void storms? Ok, let's just remove void fissures from the game. Then people will need to play void storms!

[@sierra5065]

That may very well be their end goal.

[@michaelgerzen6508]

There is a strong financial incentive for them to do this. Longer grind for cracking relics while also upping the forma needed on new weapons and frames. Man I don't want to agree with you...but yikes...I do.

[@DJminor92]

Don't give them ideas

[@TheKingsPride]

@@michaelgerzen6508 I mean if you’re referring to Sevagoth with that Forma remark, he doesn’t actually need 15 forma. That’s pretty much a meme build.

[@cheetahofthewind13]

@@TheKingsPride um wrong, you need that much forma to fully kit out sev, we're talking frame, shadow and claws claws alone cost 6 forma because there isn't any polarities already put into them so its a fucking annoying, leveling up warframes is so fucking stupid like i will never 6 forma a frame ever again after wisp during her release and no we're not using subsumed guass as an excuse for frame leveling, you shouldn't need that just to made the grind less annoying, oh and can i just say whoever at DE thought it was a good idea to not have a polarity on the aura slot for base sev deserves to 1000 forma him on each part so 3000 forma in total and you can't use subsumed abilities to cheese level it.

[@birubu]

What I expected: either being able to load up 5 relics or more at the start of a mission and open them all by the end or being able to open a relic and select another relic to open immediately after What we got: this shit

[@TomitaGregorias]

It's a glorified Void Fissure with an attitude.

[@jmage322]

Remember when the bramma got nerfed bc "it was too visually busy" and "made it hard for players to see" yeah good times....

[@dustinrichardson6533]

*simulor firing noises*

[@kolyahijack1385]

I like how these "mines" spawn in front of you and immidiately explode

[@Kasabian9999]

Seems like DE took some lessons from CDPR’s School of Gamedev :^)

[@haryjackazz6790]

The one that spawned directly in his passenger seat and waited for him was hilarious 😂

[@Leo17453]

Getting killed out of nowhere is becoming as integrated as RNG.

[@clembra1]

Just wait until you see the glitched ones that turn half your rj into a mini nuke until you walk into it with operator. It does so much damage it will shred a r5 endurance crewmate in under a second, and lags tf out of the game

[@garageink74]

I don’t play this game anymore. I don’t know why this video showed up in my feed or why I clicked to watch it. But it sure does remind me why I don’t play warframe anymore.

[@consumerjtc5835]

Its like getting your face flushed into the toilet, but inside the toilet bowl there's a disco ball.

[@DanTheBear]

Underrated comment 👏.

[@chickenburger5059]

xDD nice one

[@ArcDragoon]

The worst thing that happens is when you're on your Railjack, the void bomb hits the middle room where the turrets are, and then it some how explodes a hundred times rag dolling the shit out of anyone who so happen to be in the middle of it. And then the hundred bombs cause a seizure.

[@shadowdragonx07]

IFKR i cant belive they went wif that B.S KNOWING there getting alota backlash for this 😤 i mean 8....count em 8 FUCKING YRS and there pulling this shit wike WTF DE.

[@635574]

This bs spam bug is being investgatef, de had a QnA on reddit yesterday

[@pixelbros8313]

@@635574 this was fixed right now on ps4 Fixed FX spam in Void Storms (potentially).

[@PETI258]

When he shot the first Crewship I would have been already on a load out screen doing a normal relic capture mission...

[@bumboclat]

Yeah they better drop enourmous amounts of traces or auto-radiant all relics or multi-relic...

[@immortalcbox8769]

Feel like DE is just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

[@Kurock1000]

Issue is, it’s shit, and shit sticks to everything. It’s how we got the world we got lol.

[@metroided34]

this has been their status quo since 2014-15 iirc. Archwing was the first red-flag

[@sidthesquid9453]

Ironic because whatever sticks, DE nerfs

[@Self-replicating_whatnot]

aren't they always?

[@ghostshade]

It was a long time ago the focus was the Warframes and the loot sadly

[@TheKingsPride]

Apparently when DE said “bigger” they really meant “longer and more frustrating”

[@mrslewd6763]

i mean....railjack is meant to be team content tbh and yes, it is fast if you do the right mission and got a team. *coff* skirmish with 1 boarding and 4 people each with their job

[@TheKingsPride]

@@mrslewd6763 command intrinsic. It’s not strictly team based. Also, there’s no good return on investment.

[@mrslewd6763]

@@TheKingsPride DE themselves said railjack will be team focused, what are you on about command intrinsics was released for the people who dont have friends/who dont group up on free flight to grab randoms no good return on investment? for lith its solo as fast as capture, 1-2 minutes higher than that its 2-3 minutes with a partner ontop of all the railjack specific drops etc? honestly good loot but hey, keep away from railjack if u want, just means less competition on the market and more money for me =)

[@TheKingsPride]

@@mrslewd6763 I play Railjack a lot. I don’t like void storms because they’re terrible. Simple as that. Not being solo friendly is bad. Simple as that. Not everyone has the internet or the friends for team play. Especially with the absolute visual mess that is void storms. They’re awful, I can open a lith relic in less than a minute, why would I deal with a void storm to do it in five?

[@mrslewd6763]

@@TheKingsPride i play it a fk ton too, and? doesnt make my opinion or more worth "i dont like void storms because they're terrible" didnt specify a reason tho not being solo friendly isnt always bad in my opinion, since this game has ALOT of solo content so this is refreshing. i litteraly am playing with a friend with 550-1200 ping, funnily enough it works fine, u can just do queue for that then and find people to do void storms with just turn down effect intensity to 0, boom, no void explosion mess, or maybe just reduce bloom yaknow? tho i do think we should have a low particle option for void explosions i can open a relic in void storms too in 1-2 minutes if i try hard and get more loot to sell for plat (like deadly effy etc)

[@sicklepickle2848]

I love the contrast between this and your last video

[@floating_through_space8985]

I was just about to say that XD

[@kolyahijack1385]

Do you? I wish all the content were good like frame is.

[@krowstagvulan8395]

lol

[@NeostormXLMAX]

@@danielsalvadorcabezadevaca599 this is why you know brozmine is a sell out. Cant take anything this dude says seriously

[@deadlyrobot5179]

Money is a weird thing and does weird things to people.

[@whosgreyboi2271]

Failed a Volatile because one of the void storm effects wouldn't let me move my cursor up Took continuous amounts of damage from the storm even if i was in the ship Half of my crew mates would die because the explosion from the storm would just rapid fire hit them Verdict: best update ever 10/10

[@Bbenkosky]

yeah. had that bug too.

[@DTFinn01]

Does DE know you can litterally open relics in like 2-4 mins? this might be worth it if you were able to open 4 relics at once or smth. wtf

[@IplayTeemoasaWard]

Now I feel like im on a watchlist everytime I do a sub 1min relic capture with my squad... I know this term is used lightly these days when criticizing warframe, but If they ever touched relic cracking (aka the best and most reliable plat farm) in any way shape or form, it would ruin the game for a lot of people

[@ughwhy8175]

Remember when excavation arbitration was too good, DE comin for capture missions next because it's too rewarding compared to the other mission types.

[@yarnheart]

They already fucked them slightly with the extinction conversion random event that happens

[@fallenwarrior2686]

@@yarnheart That's still an instant quit from me. Whenever that happens, I just immediately drop the mission. No matter how quick, it still takes longer than just quitting, restarting, and running a proper Capture.

[@yarnheart]

@@fallenwarrior2686 good tip lmao I’ve been completing them fully and bitching the whole way

[@Devilcakes]

@@yarnheart so what does Extinction Conversion Random Event mean? Like when the capture target teleports back to their spawn and now you've got a minute to get back there before they bleed out and die?

[@KaiSoDaM]

They also transform mobile defense in extermination for no fkin reason

[@xxnachomachoxx]

Here's an idea for opening multiple relics in a mission. For every 10 reactant collected as a group it opens the relic while during in mission instead of end of mission. This can be repeated for an X amount of times until the mission is completed. The X amount of times is debatable between the community and DE for the specified missions.

[@FXSonny21]

What would be the difference in opening during the mission instead of at the end though ? You wouldn't be able to interact with the drops or switch relics until the mission ends anyway. Where's the benefit ?

[@AsherChurch]

they'ed nerf reactant drops in the same patch

[@xxnachomachoxx]

@@FXSonny21 misunderstood, treat this as if it was survival mode, you are able to switch relics and interact other peoples drops when 10 reactant has been collected as a group.

[@FXSonny21]

@@xxnachomachoxx oh, that does sound like I good idea then. Makes sense

[@orsonbear]

Not to mention if you play in a group, you have to wait for other players multiple times in a single mission and if some one has a slow computer, good luck getting out of the void tunnel when you're done...

[@zeromorph2579]

Was glitched for me and every time one of those explosions happened there were about 10 of them stacked on top of each other, blinded me every time and couldn't even move after. It was great

[@commenter_HIMIK-MAN]

Just 10? I had them perpetually go off atleast 10 times a second for 20 seconds. I was so disoriented. And my head legit hurt after that.

[@Toka267]

Is not a bug it is that way in coop

[@nc_ms_]

Community: how much unnecessary effects are you adding to the new update? DE: YES

[@yokai1235]

3 years back de: how many particles effect you want on the screen warframe community: yes!!! today warframe community: there's too much particles on the screen de: we know

[@RazCroz22]

DE is like a malevolent genie (or DM for fellow RPG players) granting your every wish: sure, they will make it true (in this case: "connect railjack with rest of the content") in a most straightforward, semantically correct way that ultimately is nothing that you wished for and nobody gained anything on it.

[@Maverick2736]

They didn't even connect Railjack with the rest of the content. This update is just *_another_* unrewarding content island. They're the kind of genie that you ask for an apple, and they go "ah yes, an apple, what a simple wish" and then they just fly away while flipping you the bird with both hands and silently mouthing "fuck your appleeee~".

[@robyn913]

"An unrewarding mess", so like... the rest of Warframe then?

[@wolfofwarframe3807]

DE cant make sustainable rewards, even in the golden days of the game (second dream, when void was almost counted as endgame, etc.) they were terrible at inventing rewards.

[@saltieboi4687]

@@wolfofwarframe3807 They killed it off. They were raids and the old void system

[@wolfofwarframe3807]

@@saltieboi4687 Tbh, the old void system wasnt that great either. While it rewarded long rotations players (you could get multiple rewards on a single key/relic), it still wasnt rewarding enough to be a good gameplay loop, yet alone endgame. Farming Primes is way easier now though, so the relic system didnt ruin the game.

[@KumaBones]

@@saltieboi4687 raids didn't have "good" rewards either, if you're comparing it to the rest of the game and saying NOTHING ELSE in the game has good rewards. It was just a monopoly for arcanes. Pretty sure you guys aren't being objectively accurate here; just exaggerating.

[@metroided34]

This is what happens when you let powercreep run rampant. What would be the point of "good" or "powerful" rewards if 80% of what we have now can instantly delete enemies upwards to lvl 500 with no issue.

[@canolathra6865]

I tried a void storm and it crashed my PC. Never again.

[@MrMaelstorm]

LMAO It almost did the same to me, there was a graphical glitch and an explosion animation played on a loop. I had to quit the game and stare at a dark wall to let my eyes destress from that garbage.

[@WizzyTheDizzy]

@@MrMaelstorm the patch note hotfix? it mentioned that this graphical stupid bomb was fixed, but it is NOT. same thing, my eyes are dead. and not to mention that the droptable is so shit, even though it is like 10% per part, it tooks me whole day just to get one single system, I had 100 void traces, now i have 1150, MAXED. legit shit hole.

[@dragonslayerornstein387]

Check your graphic settings, set you frame rate to 60 fps, do not turn off Vsinc and try lowering or in my case rasing the quality of the game. It may also be un update drivers

[@tiiptap]

@@dragonslayerornstein387 what's vsync? and whats it matter if it's on or off?

[@dragonslayerornstein387]

@@tiiptap Vertical Sync. And it should be on because the beta build and directx12 are still a beta and if you unlock that you might get worse visuals, less effects and can lead to an x64 underflow causing a video_stop_code

[@strangecitizen]

Like one wise person said: "diarrhea Christmas lights"

[@finnegandonahue2988]

'I wanna go open this relic. Hol' up a minute, let me go do these priority objectives and die to the void storm effects'

[@blizz3166]

@@finnegandonahue2988 lmao, love her

[@miodzi_kage]

I see Girlfriend Reviews reference - I upvote

[@Crazyollie123]

De will see this and nerf ever method of opening a relic that doesnt take 20 mins

[@TNTspaz]

They won't just stop there. Since everyone likes the new frame that shit isn't gonna survive to tomorrow. Nerfed and abandoned. People like it too much. The quest is good and people like the new character so we won't be seeing her ever again. Also they will find a way to break the quest in the next hotfix and then not find out it's broke for a year even though it will be the most asked questions on dev streams. The shits all happened before. I'm close to just giving up at this point

[@spacekettle2478]

Capture Fissures now have a 25% chance of cracking a relic after collecting 100 reactants!

[@spacekettle2478]

We're doing this to make things more fair for players who enjoy other game modes!

[@bartholomewofthebotflies5960]

Scott be like: "SHUT UP YOU ENTITLED BABIES AND ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL NEW MAPS OUR TEAM HAS CRAFTED! THEY WORKED VERY HARD ON THEM, YOU KNOW!"

[@Nauz]

Yeah i can't fucking see 'em though, cus the void storms melted my damn retinas...

[@hellothisismufin]

And like, genuinely yeah, the environments are nice, but it's not an excuse for crap missions

[@arrogance8478]

Better shut ya mouth Scott, you couldn't even get Earth done without rage quitting, and ain't no one at DE be 'working hard'

[@cyrusol]

If I dig a hole. And fill up again. And then dig it out again. And then, guess what, fill it up again. Repeatedly. Over, and over, and over again. Then I have "worked very hard". The value of all that hard work is still 0. Maybe even negative if I end up with a back injury. Sometimes the result of hard work just sucks. Hard work is not an excuse for a bad product.

[@Maverick2736]

@@cyrusol You just summed up Scott's bullshit perfectly.

[@DMystic101]

that feeling when a bad defense run is faster

[@CozyKrecker]

A really bad defence run with 2 Inaros-es and 1 rhino in your squad

[@MagikarpMan]

@@CozyKrecker try a limbo that banishes everything, a slova wisp with shock mot

[@danielendless]

Railjack is literally just a flashier loading screen but with 1 reward for 10 fissure missions time

[@CrimsonKnight]

Me after finishing the quest and trying a couple void storms: Alright guess I'll check back next update.

[@rage7658]

they could make it so that there's a relic at every objective but nOOO

[@ezequielsonego811]

Wasn't that the original plan? Maybe I'm fucking up but I seem to remember that was the idea

[@rage7658]

@@ezequielsonego811 they really looked at the current state of voidstorms and said "yeah people would want to play this". You dont even need to see this implemented, giving a SINGLE relic for a mission that takes 10 WHOLE FUCKING MINUTES to complete is just as bad on paper as it is in practice.

[@ezequielsonego811]

@@rage7658 Oh I've played this piece of shit yesterday due to the update, can't wait to farm the sevagoth's components and forget it ever existed. The action was cool though, never gave a fuck about railjack at all, works WAY better than it did a year ago when I first tried it out

[@amayadorishelter6125]

Tbh, I'm genuinely scared for my gpu with this void storm static thing, need to farm that last sevagoth part to be done with them

[@doodledibob]

I play on a 12+ year old laptop on minimum settings - voidstorms haven't blown it up yet or resulted in a significant performance penalty. That said, they give me a headache every time I play them, so I would hold off until they patch the horrendous white particle mess.

[@archonnova20]

@@doodledibob I believe there is a fx density slider in the game that i turned down to do hydrolyst fights back in the day. I never changed it and i don't get an headache from voidstorms because of that, imo their visuals are fine... I wish the rewards were muuuch much better tho :(

[@doodledibob]

@@archonnova20 sadly things like conservation animal tracks are also tied into this setting, so you'll have to constantly swap back and forth between these settings.

[@WintersFinalstand]

Void storms are usually pretty chaotic and fun, and I enjoy the chaos. But I should be able to open more relics at a time due to the length of the run itself.

[@kyroo1052]

Literally, only reason to play these is to farm Sevagoth and his weapon. Void Storms have nothing to offer.

[@syph009]

Dead ass

[@adorablecenturion8436]

How did they think this was a good idea. 7 year old game. What the fuck.

[@Nekromast]

I'd say grineer void storms are worth when you need void traces and have nothing against riven slivers. Took only 2.5 min per storm and got several times 50 traces and even one time 2x slivers as bonuses.

[@videoradeon]

it does have to offer .... GPU burning, epileptic seizures, headaches, migraines ....

[@Wakkowolf]

@@Nekromast yeah honestly this would be best as a mass void trace farm. Opening a relic is just icing. If they fuck with the rare drop rates, it's only worth it when the market gets fucked up by it. You could open multiple relics through it but that would likely fuck with the flow of the mission.

[@AdrasAdraki]

Twitch chat needs to be included in these.

[@darthgiorgi4990]

Did any of you seriously expect modern DE to give you a worthwhile reward in any way??? They clearly showed the tendency of going AGAINST that several times.

[@MrZeeck01]

Yeah.. DE really lost their mind when putting all this together lol

[@bradfortner8921]

I can fix this in 3 words. "Choose 5 relics". OR, 2 words "Guaranteed Gold"

[@abso9639]

I would love it to happen but sadly i don't think it will

[@Gorecatto]

A garanteed gold would probly shit on the market prices and give no godamn reason to farm relics at all Being able to open more than 1 relic would be better in everyway Of course that didnt happen

[@davidhoffman6816]

both

[@vicktorgunandar3726]

DE be like : we need something new with the void storm in this update , oh lets use explosion everywhere and use white as the color so this can be a challenge to the players yeah good idea DE , now players can have a blinded eye and a frickin headache

[@matheusrhuzzo6115]

I can't tell if DE is this stupid or if they are just trolling us and trying to see how long they can get away doing this shit

[@pytheas1111]

It's a combination of willful, measured mediocrity and barely concealed malice. They aren't exactly stupid, they have been sabotaging this game with zero personal repercussions for years. Somehow. It's actually kind of amazing.

[@Warfoki]

Basically, the new content will always be an absolute slug to go through, since it has to hold out until next update. Next big update drops, then they suddenly "listened to feedback" and fix the sluggish nature of the grind for the now old content... just to have the brand new content repeat the same "mistakes". Personally, I odn't paly the new updates anymore, I always play the one that just got "outdated". This content? Will be acceptably farmable by about the end of summer, mark my words.

[@frenchfriedbagel7035]

Void storms are wildly unbalanced. But they’re not unsalvageable. There’s potential for them to be great.

[@System_OveRryde]

its like they know where stuck in a toxic relationship, we wanna leave but just can't.....

[@C3l3bi1]

@@frenchfriedbagel7035 you just summed up warframe

[@blitzcha0s308]

After the previous video I was thinking "Alright, this is going somewhere" . Little did I know that it was making a U-turn back to Shit Stain Town.

[@alexprus7953]

You mean after the video sponsored by DE?

[@blitzcha0s308]

@@alexprus7953 yeah

[@BaritoneBro]

@@alexprus7953 Sponsored or not Brozime can recognize when DE does bad things vs when they do good things. Sevagoth = good thing, voidstorms = bad thing. The video being sponsored doesn't change those facts.

[@lanceandrew1319]

I really could have sworn they were talking about opening multiple relics at once during void storms... what happened

[@IHateNumbersOnNames]

"but prime access is our number one source of revenue" was the reply rebecca gave to that idea.

[@ErnyLeyvaUlloa]

@@IHateNumbersOnNames then void storms are a dump idea, also they could make so only stacks of 5 of unrefined relics would used, so it's More a ducats farm rather then prime items one.

[@forgottencosmos758]

@@IHateNumbersOnNames yes that makes sense. Why would people buy the prime access if the player a bunch of a his friends can farm the new relics and pop all.of them at once to get the new items.

[@PejorativeDaedal]

Quick fix would be that we could open 3 or more relics in a void storm, while still needing 10 reactants for each. I think with a competent squad, this would be a viable option to do.

[@abso9639]

3 relics is too low for a mission that takes 12-16min 10 relics is just the bare minimu, you can spam captute missions and finish the in like 45 sec btw

[@PejorativeDaedal]

@@abso9639 "or more"

[@ErnyLeyvaUlloa]

I thought that was the case, like why even do those if normal fissures exist

[@feralforlorn]

we really spent months of content drought only to get a few more RJ nodes with some rng loot that was played once and then abandoned and a 10 minute quest which half of it was a frame demo with a upbeat song in the backround.

[@GeorgeDaniel.]

Hit the nail on the head. Totally over hyped and dissapointing.

[@bongotoucan7913]

Song is a bop tho

[@00Grimreaper00]

Remember when Empyrean was first shown at tennocon?

[@ciernselar6549]

@@GeorgeDaniel. compared to other stuff? this was understated as fuck. and we got a bop of a song to match Fortuna's. Seriously. Some people are never happy. Give a guy a glass of water in a drought and they ask for a deluge.

[@feralforlorn]

@@00Grimreaper00 oh dont remind me of how we are like 3 years behind schedule on tennocon content, it makes me sad at this point

[@magboboterski]

watching these videos, after years of me stopping warframe makes me teary-eyed. not because of how the game went, or whatever happened with it after all those years.. but because of all those visuals, i think i got eyestrained after this

[@Safetyman99]

They're gonna fix this right? DE: We want more people to play Railjack. Also DE: Let's up the frustration level.

[@attrition71]

"This has inspired me so much." So much that I won't be playing it again. GJ DE!!!!

[@knicklichtjedi]

Also lets look at some good parts: - If you hit the Exterminate on Neptune (the Mines) and ignore every side-objective, you can finish a run in 3-5min. - Missions can drop Radiant Relics Still these missions need a lot more work, until I worth my time. At first I thought they might be a good source of Void Traces and Radiant Relics, but quickly had to realize that those werent guaranteed drops :c

[@mrslewd6763]

grineer skirmish, if u wanna spam liths, get gunner crew x2 and spam missiles, u can finish it in 1-2 minutes for higher than lith aka objective based, get a friend along, he rushes to objective, 2-3 minutes, no matter the level

[@Nekromast]

@@mrslewd6763 This ^ Finished it in 2.5min with randoms and got several times the 50 void traces bonus as well as 2x riven slivers once. Not bad I'd say, would prefer over some void fissures. But true that Corpus storms needs changes Edit: Axi even gives 100 traces and 600 endo (1200 according to drop table) so even better

[@PPP-ww2gt]

For those who don't know, you can reduce or remove void storm visual effects by reducing effect intensify in the game setting.

[@jgsource552]

I swear, someone has to replace sheldon. How does he still not get how to reward players after all these years of feedback. I doubt he plays the game even. This shit is as worse as the nerfing scott does

[@wolfofwarframe3807]

Sheldon is freaking useless. Once I heard him mentioning rewards (all he said was vaulted relics which arent that useful to any kind of veteran), I knew void storms would be useless. At least Scott has the balls to have his own opinion and explanation for his decisions, while the rest of the team try promising things they cant keep.

[@justanormalinvestigator2640]

Wait who is he and what does he do?

[@adorablecenturion8436]

De made railjack even less appealing, great fucking job lmaoo I was initially happy for this update, and willing to max out my railjack mods and shit **again** just to mess around with this content but there just isn't shit to do. What a shame.

[@ErnyLeyvaUlloa]

Sheldon, the pets 2.0 update... Soon, like never nor insterested anymore

[@Maverick2736]

By this point, the entire team needs replacement. Steve is all overhype promises that never deliver and unnecessary graphics updates that screw with the framerate, Scott keeps plugging his ears towards even the mildest forms of respectful constructive criticism and keeps using "hard work" as an excuse for their half-asssed product, Sheldon keeps forgetting and leaving behind projects so he never gets anything done, Geoff has zero idea how to make a video game fun and rewarding but keeps pushing his bad ideas forth anyways, "Based" Pablo only provides good contributions to the game once in a blue moon and works on Scott's unnecessary nerfs and Steve/Geoff/Reb's occasional ideas for half-assed frame reworks the rest of the time. Hell, even Reb, who used to be the one most conscious of both the playerbase's needs and the rest of DE's terrible decisions, now just excuses and parrots the bad behaviors of the rest of the team. And that's without taking into account their overprotected sub-division of corrupt and abusive chat moderators and the rest of the 300+ employees with their $66+ million revenue per year ($202,000 per employee) that's still somehow not good enough to ever get to the "potential" that the playerbase has waited for eight years (and counting) for this game to reach. Warframe's biggest miracle is how it's still somehow barely alive after eight years of disorganized and half-assed development with this bullheaded dev team.

[@Kurai_69420]

"Who put this neutron star in my ship?"

[@the8anarchist]

Pretty much just going to do voidstorms for spook and his weapon and this mode can rot once i get those

[@syph009]

I farmed Sevagoth for 6 hours straight. My eyes were watering and burning after the first 2. Thank god I’m done

[@forgottencosmos758]

This is why we take breaks. That's your own damn fault.

[@COrraThereal0ne]

@@forgottencosmos758 For? Grinding? The thing warframe is? Why should players be discouraged? We all know DE isn't

[@NoMicGAMER]

I saw the notification and I ran like Mikey Mouse on that clip where Minnie trips and falls... WAH HAPPEN?

[@sys4358]

Remember to always turn the effect on the visual setting to 10 instead of the 100, which is likely what has been shown here, to reduce eye cancer

[@sys4358]

And yes, the drop rate is, interesting, I spent nearly 18 hours straight farming it, got 7 neuro, 4 system, and then within 4 runs I managed to get all three of the parts, that is one for each.

[@samlarson9447]

I agree the effects are a bit too much for this one mission, but the missions themselves are a lot more fun and engaging than your usual capture mission. Plus you get a lot better rewards for doing these things, such as radiant relics, a decent amount of endo, and a good amount of void traces. This is longer than a capture mission, but you get a hell of a lot more out of this than a capture missions that's for sure.

[@vengefulancient]

Shhh. You can't tell that to people who complain that the game is repetitive, then complain that the new content *isn't* like the capture speedruns they are sick of being repetitive.

[@samlarson9447]

@@vengefulancient it's like they don't realize that this mission is more than just opening one relic lmao. It's a genuinely decent relic and endo farm. Plus it's fun once they fixed the explosion effects

[@vengefulancient]

@@samlarson9447 Not to mention that without any boosters, I went up 3 million credits after a few hours. Honestly, it's a perfect mission type for someone like me who prefers multi-dipping instead of "farming" just one thing. Relics, prime parts, void traces, credits, enemies that are decently tough, fun gameplay (I *do* love flying and shooting in railjack, after all). But sure, let's trash talk it because... oh wait, they just don't know what they want. Ludicrous. There's stuff to improve on, agreed (like having defense *in* RJ, not groundside), but this whining is pathetic.

[@samlarson9447]

@@vengefulancient also the reason why it took so long was because it is a team based mission. They have multiple objectives but it can all be done at the same time. If you do it solo of course it is going to take long.

[@vengefulancient]

@@samlarson9447 That too. Running it even just duo is orders of magnitude faster than solo. What a big surprise, it's almost as if it was intended that way.

[@grevesman]

ah yes, 4 missions worth of mission for 1 missions worth of rewards

[@sarlight9626]

This update is everything i was worried about. But firstly i thought that it will be few days of content now it is just the short quest and new frame to use. But where to use him if you are MR30 and basically completed the game?

[@scmomcquad1007]

2nd year of “it’s still not worth redownloading” let’s goooooooooo

[@swervolife7031]

Now their adding cross save and idiots like me wanna play him... I dont want to do this

[@johngaynor4363]

@@swervolife7031 checking in a year later. Not implemented yet, sadly. I'd play way more if I could play on PC without restarting.

[@AnonymoZero]

DE really wants your PC to get melted cause of these effects.

[@karistonluphus91]

It took me one hour to complete one void storm...... ....due to host migration, loading bugs, clipping bugs. No rewards ....etc. Really great..... -.-

[@robertwalsh1401]

I got on after a 4 month break, was introduced to and "defeated" a new villain in like 20 minutes, looked at the rewards for void storm and unless im really out of stuff to play itll probably be another 4 months before i log back on. This looks horrible.

[@kelvinfahrenheit1107]

I logged on today to get that Dex think skin, looked to see if I could get whatever I missed last year, foundout I couldn't, then logged off to leave the game gathering dust for however long. My clan once had over 50 people active each day. Its dead now

[@prestinryan5373]

This looks awesome. I can't wait to (never) interact with this content!

[@insomniacgamingtheater]

They have absolutely leaned into making it easier to just farm platinum and buy frames than farm the actual frame. Baruuk, Hildryn, and Grendel are all locked behind *TWO* reputation grinds, and now Sevagoth has loot table so diluted, you have a better chance of getting the ephemera from the Exploiter Orb fight. And, yes, I’m just going to farm the plat and buy him. It’ll be less painful.

[@ThePopeOfAwesomeness]

Even the MIGHTY SEER doesn't know how DE missed this

[@BrendanCS]

DE has a game based around endurance content that rewards build craft, but they don’t seem to know it and they only ever make isolated convoluted unrewarding content with no replay value.

[@orangesouls7112]

Just because you CAN flood everything with particle effects doesn't mean you SHOULD. Why this became a standard in graphics is beyond me. I play at lowered settings despite being able to run everything at Ultra in most games just because I want to see what I am playing.

[@madcheese03]

Honestly I don't mind the whole thing. The only thing I don't like is the little void explosions but other than that for me atleasf it's very fun as I just got my railjack so yeah

[@protodevilin]

This much work should bulk-open like 10 relics. Good god. EDIT: Holy shit, he said it at 15:55, lol

[@Starcrafter23]

Either that or make it a "fuck it" method of getting rare parts. So you could select one type of a relic and crack whatever amount you want, but can only select a single item. So if you only care about a specific part and don't give a shit about ducats, you can just blow 40 relics and have a pretty much guarantee of getting the part you want

[@protodevilin]

@@Starcrafter23 That's actually a great idea.

[@dokvald]

Something DE could do to make certain mission types more viable for relic runs. Is make longer missions like this one Boost the chance to get rarer items from relics. Also Make the number of vaults hacked successfully or with no alarms tripped in spy missions affect drop rates as well. Right now if you run a spy mission for relics there is no incentive to do the mission well, just fast. Similarly mission types with hidden cashes could boost the drop rate of the relic for each hidden cashe found. Same thing with endless ones like defense/survival. for each round increase the drop rates in the relic to actually incentivize staying longer. WF has so many mission types but the game only gives you reason to engage with a small number of them, properly scaling reward with difficulty, mission type, and time commitment would really help this problem.

[@Retrosenescent]

Players: "Why would anyone play Voidstorms when they can open a relic way faster and easier doing a defense or survival or interception or excavation fissue?" DE: "That's actually a really good point. We have now removed all fissures except for voidstorms. You're welcome!!"

[@kingatlanofatlantis3075]

And then the game fucking dies.

[@wido3471]

I think they could use that place in the quest where you played as the shadow and make it somewhat like an ESO/relic cracking hydrid. At some point a void storm would spawn randomly on the map and you'd need to fly the RJ into it to begin the ESO/cracking relic type of thing. Maintaining "void stability"(ESO efficiency) while getting 10 reactant under a minute or two, depends if the whole thing would scale like ESO. When you can't keep up anymore, you get kicked out of that space with the fissure closing, then you can continue with the normal mission, extract or whatever else. This way you can crack as many relics as you can manage at a fairly good rate, plus you don't have to witness flashbangs every 3 seconds. An idea I had in mind since this update dropped.

[@00Grimreaper00]

At first I was kinda mad that the update came out and I didn't have my ps5 with me but seeing the update I don't really have anything to worry about

[@mbnwsjr_6243]

I usually don't leave comments but I wanted to. Not trying to offend anyone but this is the most fun I've had in warframe in about a year. This also gives me and a lot of people a reason to use their railjack rather than it just sit around and collect dust

[@phoenixlamp2]

Oh man sevagoth is one cool frame I hope getting him won’t be too much of a pain

[@ghosthunterfallout]

There'a actually a third objective there the derelict vault oof... Ya they gotta lose the stupid exploding void energy crap, you can shoot them to stop them from exploding just shoot them when your screen is cluttered and its almost impossible to see them oh also they form and then explode almost instantly so you better spot those tiny very hard to see void ruptures quickly.

[@ThrillaWhale]

The bastardized screen tearing freaked me the fuck out when I first encountered them. Especially when the ones that went on for like 10 seconds straight...

[@M0du5Pwn3n5]

Rather than opening more, it needs to guarantee you a higher rarity. You use void traces to get a better shot at higher rarity - well, this is a whole storm of void! Then it would actually be competitive with capture without having to be definitively faster (which would make capture obsolete). You'd decide: do I want to crack more relics faster, or is this a rare relic that I want to spend time on to make sure I get the rarer drops. Maybe even just literally let you pick the drop from the relic. That would be a good tradeoff for the extra time.

[@microArc]

i like the idea, but i feel like you should crack at least 1 relic per sub-objective and 1 more for the whole mission or it better promise a rare every run

[@mrslewd6763]

i think we should be able to run 3-5 of the same relic at once and then get to choose 3-5 rewards at once or make railjack automaticly count any relic as radiant, those changes purely for the corpus railjack tho cause grineer railjack is like 2-3 minutes if you got a good partner, which is nearly the same as capture

[@Raio_Verusia]

You get like 150k credits per RJ run. You get endo from scrapping rj part drops. That's two good reasons to do RJ right there. You get affinity for all kinds of shit in one mission if you're after affinity, too. It might not be the best, but you can farm frame, weapon, mech, archgun, archwing, plexus affinity at the same time if you were that desperate for affinity. Maybe the rewards table is awful, but on top of all that they let you crack a relic. Doing it solely for ONE THING and one thing only is pointless, for me I run RJ cause I need endo, I need credits, I had to get Sevogath, may as well open a relic while I'm doing all that and fuck it forma my mausolon and mech too. Idc if the mission takes me 6-10 minutes to do, it's a hell of a lot more engaging than flying through capture at warp speed. I do agree with the fx though, holy shit. What were they thinking lol

[@forgottencosmos758]

The fx are a client side bug.

[@zackwyvern2582]

I agree in that it is more engaging. It is cool content. But once youve done it more than 3 times, youre already sick of it. Its not a joy to do some fun thing youve already fucking done. And then for what? If you dont get the rewards you need, you feel so demoralized. I hate that its a disproportionate grind to its rewards. I dont care anymore about the content being "engaging", because heres the truth. I choose what is engaging. I want to play Sevagoth. I think he looks fun and cool. I will feel good carrying him around. I dont think that void storms are fun. I dont do void storms just for the fun of it. What is fun, is rolling around with the frame I like, blasting planets to hell and back, with the tools and powers I choose. Not 12 minutes of grueling nonsense for a chance to get a part of the thing I want. I hate that.

[@Wing0fSilver]

I was waiting for this

[@avidpaintwatcher]

I'm so disappointed with Void Storms. When I heard of them I was expecting it to be a new sort of mission type really. Like, lorewise Void Storms congregate around certain areas and you have a time limit to do salvage and "weather" the storm fighting against mangled corrupted enemies from the storm and popping into occasional derelict buildings from all factions for all sorts of rewards. Relics, warframe parts, credits, old high value resource caches (1-6 of uncommon or rare resources) info that gets you a ton of standing in syndicates. Instead it's the normal missions. But just add so much visual clutter and these giant moving AoE hitboxes that'll gnaw your RJ asshole out while you're trying to do something in a base. It's just frustrating

[@Sirkingx]

its normal rail jack missions with void fissure added onto it for extra rewards. you get 3-4 rewards at the end. i don't see what there is to complain about. it's like complaining about normal fissures. You are going to do the mission anyway right? You arnt doing anything extra really except gathering the 10 void bits to crack the relic which just happens without trying anyway. xD if you simply want to crack relics quicker than do normal fissures. But if you are doing rail jack missions anyway then do void storms. beeboopbop

[@James-kv3ll]

I have no idea wtf is going on. The entire system including railjack is unnecessarily confusing

[@Alecuba97]

Thanks for warning epilepsy patients such as myself

[@_Smithy]

I feel that, my screen was shaking so much I couldn't even find where the tear in the railjack was

[@plaguemouse5549]

All you had to do was to increase the drop rate of void traces or the rate of relic cracking, guys.

[@jj481012]

It would be cool if you could open multiple relics at the same time in a void storm. The missions would be longer and challenging but you’d be farming more efficiently. I’d actually play railjack if that was the case.

[@jj481012]

Or maybe the relics you do open are automatically upgraded to match the level difficulty. Like if you’re doing a high level mission, the relic would become radiant without using any traces.

[@danang5]

they nerf that glitched RJ mission to the ground,not surprised

[@4g3nt06]

It also would make sense. It's not just some fissures, it's an ENTIRE STORM of void energy, theres definitely enough energy to open more relics

[@sp4de5]

MFW 15 minutes to open 1 relic

[@ObamasHairyNipples69]

What DE could do for railjack relics is when you collect enough reactant for it to IMMEDIATELY crack open and choose your loot and to choose another relic to throw in to crack open. This would allow multiple relic openings without being at the same time as they don't have this sort of thing in the game (yet).

[@Incidamus101]

Sometimes bombs decide to stack on each other and never die

[@IAMTHEJUGGERNATE]

There are so many ways they could make this worthwhile, too. Option 1) make the other drops abundant like the pre-nerf R-9 Cloud

[@Ghooostie]

How much of all that visual noise is from Sevagoth and how much from the voidstorm ? Because holy crap there's so much shit happening

[@forgottencosmos758]

You can tone It down in the settings. Brozimes settings look to be extremely high for everything.

[@Draak_en]

The only thing that kept playing in my mind while watching this was the "There's so many fuckin sweet visual filters that I can't see shit! That means this map kicks ass!" meme.

[@bjarnivalur6330]

Console Player here, I can't do more than one Railjack mission at a time if I try to do more I can't interact with anything (i.e. can't drive or exit Railjack) and whenever my crew kills something and it drops a part (purple things) i can't pick it up. Can anyone relate?

[@Starcrafter23]

I like how the exploding rifts can spawn pretty much on top of you and give you a heart attack and blow your eardrums out if you didn't lower the audio enough. And for squishier frames they pretty much disable shield gating