Volkswagen Tiguan vs Omoda C9

[@Autotradersa]

Important notification: This was filmed before the C9's local introduction, and information regarding its kerb weight supplied to us was incorrect. We can confirm that its claimed kerb weight is 1 876kg, and 1 384kg for the Tiguan, which is still a substantial weight difference. Thanks for watching! More comparisons are headed your way soon! (Sean)

[@bethelmadida9513]

@@Autotradersa the tiguan is 1.6 tons again

[@edwinseitei5275]

The Tiguan weight still doesn’t sound correct. My Golf 5 is 1350 kg and it’s a smaller car

[@Autotradersa]

@@bethelmadida9513 1384kg for the 1.4TSI and 1599kg for the 2.0TDI [Chad]

[@sandisongwenya4667]

A refreshing review, proper stuff Auto Trader. I love that this was product focused. With the Omoda, when you put the suspension on mid it hides the weight quite well. Ive found thats the best place to keep it, in no way have I felt that its heavy though. Especially after having extensively tested the cars in its class i.e X3, XC60, GLC before making a purchase decision. I also tested the Tiguan after getting my car because I saw alot of people comparing it to the C9 otherwise it wasn't even a consideration. I beg to differ on the Tiguan feeling premium. When I had the R-line on test for 4 days it didn't feel premium, if felt like it had alot of plastic with synthetic leather. However, I enjoyed the massage seats and the superior infotainment and driver display system. Besides feeling like a big Polo, its a good product in its class but not against the Omoda C9.

[@mhb3088]

Dont tell cars.co.za this, theyl jump down your throat. According to them the tiguan is best value for price 😂

[@user-qc6mo7tr7c]

Great viddie thanks. Nice to see a car journo actually considering price first. It drives me nuts reading/watching car comparisons where the price difference is massive, but it gets ignored because the cars are "in the same market segment".

[@geraldmnisi9235]

I will go for omoda c9

[@nmsingh72]

A distinct bias towards the vw takes away from an otherwise good review. Perhaps personal preferences should stay out of comparisons or reviews of this nature. They hinder rather than add to any sense of value or objectivity.

[@snautomotive]

No bias here, simply inserting my opinion after driving both vehicles for an extended period. Had I not included an opinion I’d be labelled a spineless journalist. I’m aware that there’s no pleasing everyone online, but I can assure you I have and will never have a preconceived bias against a car in these reviews. The premise of the video was the compare a newcomer to a vehicle that has been established as one of the best in its segment. Thanks for watching, I appreciate the engagement.

[@ozemsadventureofrandomstuf252]

Firstly, awesome review Sean!🎉 You and Chad are exceptional with these full in depth reviews 😮🎉 Please just upload reviews more regularly as there are plenty of cars coming in🙏🏆 If it was my money, the Omoda is far more superior with value for money and features😮❤ I think a heavy car isn’t always a bad thing as you have a good stable car for open road and in bad windy weather(not to say the Tiguan will blow away😅) The Chinese at this point have created problems for the Germans 😂

[@Autotradersa]

Thanks for the kind words and for sharing your thoughts. The Chinese market is certainly making other manufacturers relook at their business model and the products they offer. We're hoping to ramp up video productions in the year to come with, as you say, many new models on the way. Stay tuned! [Chad]

[@SDav21]

This shows how your thoughts change based on the facts you're given. The Omoda is not much heavier yet feels more solid and sturdy. It is in fact only 200kgs heavier not 1000 as you said. You probably read the GVM weight of the Omoda and the tare weight of the Tiguan. That means it was really well engineered. It is a thing the Germans always did. Their cars are designed to have that solid feel. The Chinese cars are not coming in at ridiculously low prices as you say. They are coming in at normal prices! Everyone else has hiked prices to unaffordable and unreasonable levels and they made us believe that that was just how it is. But no it isn't. They are just greedy. Thank gosh for the Chinese carmakers. People can actually get to experience high end features at normal prices. The legacy carmakers act like the features are expensive to implement when they are not. The features are decades old. Radar cruise should not be costing R10k. A sunroof should not be costing R20k.

[@mhb3088]

Loving these comparison videos guys. Keep it up. Mayb add some timestamps aswell 😊

[@edwinseitei5275]

To be honest, this comparison is an insult to Omoda C9. They’re just not in the same league The two are chalk and cheese both in spec and features

[@akmalfahmimdamin-250]

Sean literally explains why here 0:50 😅

[@m2ngwa89]

Omoda C9 is around 1.8 tons as tested by Car Magazine VW Tiguan is 1.6 tons as tested by Car Magazine

[@Autotradersa]

Thank you for reaching out! We have pinned a comment pertaining to the kerb weight. Apologies. (Sea )

[@FK-wp3ig]

They should really be fact checking cars.co.za might be a little less biased. 1000 kg difference was really a mess up they should really fact check before giving false information.

[@adriaanserrao2016]

As someone who has seen the horrors of the 1.4 VW motor and who feels that even compared to the other legacy brands VW is a rip-off when it comes to features I'll take the chinese. And the old Tiguan was much better looking

[@AllAutoMuseum]

thank you for speaking a lot of sense

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@@adriaanserrao2016 1.4VW engine better than any Chinese engine

[@adriaanserrao2016]

@@erichweggelaar1320 I've not heard of anyone having issues with the 1.5 GWM or the Pseries diesel or the new cherry motors. Meanwhile i know 3 people who have had things like valve guid seals go on the VW and that dq200 rubbish gerbox cost them more than the car is worth. Have a family member with a 2018 haval H2 has 175000km on it no issues another has a 1.4 Tiguan 2019 84000km valve guide seals and timing chain rattle

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@adriaanserrao2016 my neighbour has had 2 havals and a cherry. Go and test drive the new tiguan. It's far superior. If you look at the bigger picture, you must realise that, what China is busy doing to the world, is not good

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@@adriaanserrao2016 🤣🤣🤣

[@glennbaloyi3133]

Im beginning to think the bias is an autotrader thing cause the other day I was watching a comparison between a Kia Sonet and a Haval Jolion pro S. They chose the sonet over the Jolion. I laughed. I test drove both cars while car shopping for my wife and there's no comparison there whatsoever. The Jolion is a class above the Sonet, but they're priced similarly. Imagine.

[@snautomotive]

There’s no bias in our reviews. We’ve spent time with each vehicle, and this is what we’ve determined based on our experience with each coupled with years of evaluating cars.

[@Autotradersa]

@@glennbaloyi3133 we implore you to watch the Kia vs Haval video again, as our conclusion did not place one over the other, but rather highlighted how each model caters to a slightly different audience.

[@TheCitizn]

This is a good video But the problem is you aren't showing us videos of what you are presenting at times. Eg you mention maps, and camera but no visuals are presented

[@Autotradersa]

Thanks for the feedback, we'll keep it in mind for future videos!

[@dyl_nnn]

Omoda C9 is way better than new Tiguan ❤❤🔥

[@senselessza1]

Only on paper

[@erichweggelaar1320]

Not by a long shot

[@sandisongwenya4667]

​​@@senselessza1in the real world too, but like the reviwer said if you want a small package thats not luxurious then you will enjoy the Tiguan

[@bethelmadida9513]

@@sandisongwenya4667 most people are trying to brand loyal to Save face for vw but there is no world where the tiguan is better than the C9 even though the reviewer tried by all means to measure the C9 by the tiguans strong points mostly

[@ibrahimsendi3385]

​@senselessza1 what do u mean? Check warranties on both cars u will buy c9 with a blink of any eye

[@SerengetiVoyager]

Great review, must say I enjoyed it

[@malibongwezitshu4612]

Great job Omoda.

[@garthpetersen3538]

Ok clearly this man bias.

[@robintyson591]

Just a thought. Wouldn't it be nice to have ONE showroom in each town/suburb that has ALL makes and ALL models on the floor. Just like a supermarket. How ridiculous that I have to go to the 'VW' dealer to check their models, the 'BMW' dealer to look at theirs and the 'Omoda' showroom to look at theirs. It's so wasteful and so inefficient.

[@eitanrapp]

webuycars has your back :)

[@hwleitner2009]

Very articulate reviewer!

[@deanesau9106]

Top guy this. After a few months he'll loosen up a bit more and add some more smiles and jokes and he'll be a finished product. You're welcome

[@ntokozokubheka7364]

Please do the new Mini Countryman vs Volvo XC40😊 or any other car in that category

[@mpilozungu2022]

The Omoda is very clearly way more superior. He didn't even bother to really get into all it possesses compared to what the vw has even after paying for all optional extras.

[@bethelmadida9513]

The bias is clear 🤞🏾

[@sandisongwenya4667]

​​@@bethelmadida9513😂😂its so clear, even when looking at the space in the cabin and the boot, excuses were made for the Tiguan. What I have seen is that most reviewers are trying so hard to compare the C9 to a Tiguan and the C9 is worlds apart. However, I will say that this reviewer has been the most gracious and least unbiased compared to the other reviews I have seen. If the C9 had a Land Rover badge on it, the reviews would be so different. Im saying LR because of the JV and the fact that the C9 (behind closed doors) was designed and developed with JLR. The platform (M3X) is the umderpinning they are using for the new electric JLR products that will be built globally by Chery.

[@LakheKamvalakhe]

Both are great cars - each in it's own unique league and high status with all it's features and so forth, the motoring industry is stacked from here on out, I quite like the competition going on 🔥

[@Manhattanranger93]

There's no competition here. The VW Tiguan is overpriced when you consider all the optional extras you'll have to add to make it look and feel decent. And it only has a 1.4 110kw engine 😂 I'll take the 190kw Omoda any day over the Tiguan

[@erichweggelaar1320]

VW overpriced? Most definitely not. Do yourself a favour and go and test drive the new Tiguan. You'll rather pay for quality add ons than standard gimmicks

[@biafo4541]

​@erichweggelaar1320 ok let's pretend that VW is still a quality product (the new polo feels very cheap inside compared to the polo 6) You are still paying a huge amount of money for a VW badge. Audi, BMW and Merc are also overpriced for what you get but you pay the premium because at least you get a premium posh badge. VW is not a premium posh badge. It's in the category with Hyundai, Kia, Cherry, Naval etc

[@sandisongwenya4667]

​@@erichweggelaar1320😂😂😂😂quality? Gimmicks? Did you test drive the C9? I have driven both, nkt just for a test drive but over a few days. The cars are worlds apart, with the C9 being superior in all aspects. The only place the VW is better is with the infotainment system and drivers display sytem. Otherwise its a really hard sell imo to pay almost R1m for a car that feels like a big polo

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@sandisongwenya4667 yes

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@biafo4541 🤣🤣🤣

[@MrVak.76]

You are clearly biased towards VW, Omoda way more classy than VW, try to be more neutral in future.

[@afikamjali7384]

Vw probably lining them pockets☠️☠️

[@krane15]

The new North American Tiguan was co-developed for the Chinese market. Anyway, a flat bottom steering when is not unusual. Also , point the camera down into the bins so we can see the bottom (ports, lights, etc.). Love the cover over the center console so that every looks nice and tidy when not in use. The C9 also has a power adjustable steering wheel. Something you can't get on the Tiguan (the last of the manual adjustment item that I wish they would offer even as an option). One button push and everything adjust to your personal setting. The VW seats won an award for their "ergo-active" seats in comfort and adjustability. Even if they're not as plush as those on the C9.

[@johanlandman4097]

How reliable will the parts be after 5 years?

[@sandisongwenya4667]

We will see in 3 years. The 2 years the Exeed RX has been around there has been no issues

[@anna-marivanzyl7259]

My personal tasted, i will never choice all these new Chinese cars and weird new brands Rather stick to proper German Quality, safety VW and other German brands all the way !

[@krane15]

Half your car is made in China. Remember, all carmakers are international.

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@@anna-marivanzyl7259 ditto

[@jamiebedwell2391]

I agree that time will tell when it comes to reliability and resale values of Chinese cars like this. But what you are saying is exactly what lazy brands like VW want you to think…. Stick with the supposedly trusted old guard who are actually ripping you off at every turn. The first VW electric cars had famously terrible plasticky interiors because they are simply cost-cutting and relying on their established customers buying them anyway. The cheaper Chinese brands will make everyone raise their game.

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@jamiebedwell2391 unfortunately it's not just about Chinese cars. It's about what the Chinese stand for. Even if their cars are supposedly good and cheap, their core values are much to be desired

[@m2ngwa89]

One thing in the beginning that you stated, consumers shop on pricing and not segment by segment basis. There you are absolutely correct. If a person has 600k to spend or finance, they will look at all the vehicles they could get at that price range regardless of segments.

[@johanlandman4097]

Tiguan is beautiful❤❤❤❤

[@christophersemenya9890]

I truly enjoyed every moment of this review

[@Autotradersa]

Thanks for watching!

[@shingiraichitoro9392]

Please do a comparison of the GAC gs3 Emzoom Rstyle vs the VW TRoc RLine... thanks

[@heinrethasangerhaus4242]

Im split between the two. Tough decision. Think im stuck! Thanks for a great comparison.

[@sandisongwenya4667]

If you haven't yet. Go and drive both, once you have the decision will be easier to make.

[@bethelmadida9513]

Guy has a clear bias to the tiguan from the get go

[@mutyambizis]

I have to agree with you. I have no option.

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@@bethelmadida9513 it's the better car trust me

[@bethelmadida9513]

@@erichweggelaar1320 spec for spec it isn't and vw are in bad financial states and the cost cutting is starting to show in most of their products the tiguan included and that's beyond the surface

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@bethelmadida9513 I say it again. its the better car trust me

[@bethelmadida9513]

@@erichweggelaar1320 just like diesel gate

[@MasterAppels]

The Omoda every day of the week and twice on Sunday!

[@TimeTraveler6022]

Tiguan must be around 1.8 tons.

[@simplyvw8719]

Tiguan will sell for a very good price after 5years and second owner will still appreciate the quality.

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@@simplyvw8719 exactly

[@MasterAppels]

You should really invest in better cameras. I'm sure a flagship phone produces better footage than what you are using. A decent full-frame mirrorless would be such an upgrade, especially with the bright driving scenes.

[@Mkhehla]

I think having a torque converter might make the biggest difference in clenching the deal for the C9...🤔

[@Komentariram]

Honestly this is the first time i see this Omoda car. It looks much better both outside and inside. Vw needs to step up their game, it really looks cheap in comperison.

[@thespikemotivation]

Those jeans 😂😂 man

[@AllAutoMuseum]

that tiguan interior looks like a chinese/vietnamese karaoke bar. and the c9 is supposed to be the chinese car haha

[@1510km]

the OMODA camera system completely wipes the floor with VW lol, I sell these cars and I've owned VW's. VW quality is poor compared to OMODA.

[@canyonsen5103]

Omoda C9

[@bobbyviljoen6415]

Why do you compare a 1.4l engine to a 2.0l? It's ridiculous

[@leeroyrupere]

Tiguan all the way.....

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@@leeroyrupere ditto

[@FK-wp3ig]

I think the reviewer was biased towards the Tiguan and he was looking to fault the Omoda.

[@TheAppleLoadout]

Dealer network, parts availability, after sales service, resale value, warranty parameters, insurance. There is a lot more to buying a car than just the initial price and delivery. I would not hesitate in buying the Tiguan. Those knock off Mercedes seat controls tell the entire story 😂.

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@@TheAppleLoadout precisely.. VW all the way

[@SDav21]

As if VW's after sales is great? Lol please. VW servicing is overpriced and half the VW dealers are liars and thiefs.

[@thamibn]

Omoda c9 🎉

[@mousepad9763]

How much did vw pay for this review 😂 , we trying to justify a 1.4 tazz engine with a turbo slapped on for 900k

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@mousepad9763 Tazz? Please don't insult vw. That 1.4 engine is much better than the Chinese copy of something. And it WILL hold better value.

[@mousepad9763]

@erichweggelaar1320 no bro i don't believe a tiny high revving engine with a turbo charger is going to be very reliable

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@mousepad9763 high reving? No bro, I know how to drive. And I have never had any issues with small capacity, turbo charged engines. They are built to perfection and doesn't deplete the middle east of oil, unlike the Chinese cars

[@mousepad9763]

@erichweggelaar1320 a tiny engine in a big heavy SUV has to work harder to move the vehicle that's why I said high revving plus it has a turbo charger which is going to cause reliability issues. If you don't believe me simple Google what owners of this vehicle with that engine say about reliability

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@mousepad9763 googling will of course produce exceptional cases. A family member works at a VW dealership and turbo or engine issues are very very rare. I must add that the car must be maintained. Any car with a partial service history will give issues. If that car has a turbo then it's not the turbo's fault. Total cost of ownership of VW is well worth it and it's excellent trade in enables one to upgrade instead of buying down which is the case with all Chinese and Indian cars. Toyota also share good cost of ownership but you have to spend money on them to get even a proper headlight. VW on the long run, when maintained is well well worth it.

[@salmonstone2358]

Everyone in the comments Clearly biased towards the C9 😂😂

[@SDav21]

People can just see when something else is better without having brand bias.

[@loicndame5678]

there seems to be VW bias here. But here what I take: Not only it was not compared to what It's competition is but the non competitor is still overpriced. Seems like the chines are proving VWs are just overpriced ain't it. I hear the price argument but you don't compare champagne and wine because they are the same price. Same as you wont compare a bakkie to an X3 because of the priec parity

[@magnol9]

Vw, less is more. Who needs all the Chinese gadgetry to go wrong?

[@bezuidenhoutreclaimworks7407]

Vw interiour looks cheap with all the gloss plastics

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@bezuidenhoutreclaimworks7407 at least it doesn't pretend. The hideous Chinese grills are enough to make one nauseous

[@mingwang6183]

C9 definitely win

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@@mingwang6183 c9 what?

[@tshidiso9653]

Omoda C9 is far better.

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@@tshidiso9653 fooled by gimmicks and window dressing

[@ZachSnyman]

Vw tiguan❤❤

[@AlternativPerspectiv]

That VW is showing 12l / 100km!! 😬

[@SDav21]

The Tiguan has a small engine with low power output. Based on the issues with the previous Tiguans with the 1.4 how will this be any better. Not to mention the DSG gearbox notorious for becoming problematic and VW's expensive service costs. Crazy how you have to compare it with a car from a higher segment from China. Just shows how overpriced the Tiguan really is. Also, the Omoda has adaptive dampers which gives it a far better ride than the harsh VW suspension and the Omoda has real nappa leather seats. Having a normal auto is also already a win for the Omoda as well. South African motoring journalists will make sure to not step on VW's toes so that they keep getting press cars.

[@krane15]

I don't know about the C9 but the European Tiguan has 5 engines to choose from.

[@SDav21]

@krane15 The Omoda has more power and torque than any engine VW is offering.

[@mo_0912]

😂 The VW interior looks like it was made in 2000 while the Omoda looks current.

[@ehsandomun8776]

Tiguan with plastic engine 😅

[@loganpadayachee6048]

Did you go see one in reality? Do me a favour go do that😮

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@ehsandomun8776 C9 with a non repeatable copy of a paper engine. With huge built in tolerances to add to poor fuel economy

[@Kreativeempire]

The omoda is 1.8 tons and the tiguan is 1.6 tons. The bias towards the tiguan is too clear here😅

[@paulklavas668]

VW everyday. Even though more expensive cheaper in the long run with better resale, parts and dealer footprint. The omoda is a good effort. Even though VW improved infotainment a few more short cut buttons would have been better. Cars are safer with buttons even with knobs driving them. Interior quality appears to be slightly improved. VW dropped the ball on a few their car’s interiors. Test drove the C5 for a friend felt unsafe with slow steering and barge like suspension. Great review though.

[@bethelmadida9513]

@@paulklavas668 not the 1.4 with turbo issues, timing chain, computer box problems and all that can go wrong with an underpowered tubro engine in a country with high altitude and poor petrol grades

[@SDav21]

The C5 and C9 is not comparable. It is like comparing a Polo Vivo to a Touareg. The C9 is levels up.

[@nicholas1462]

They are both Chinese cars anyway

[@brattpack]

Tiguan fuel economy seems higher than stated: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4bEoGWIdriGqas

[@ajs-qv5fe]

Wow what a biased and unprofessional comparo review, the reviewer could not even get the weight of the cars right!!! The omoda is clearly a more sophisticated car and the tiguan just looks outdated and barren in comparison.

[@emiel7792]

Never chinese car for me. Subsidised by regime

[@biafo4541]

Ive seen a few new tiguans on the road and at first it looks more chinese than German. Only ehen u get close enough to see the badge i realize its a VW The cheap looking light bar right across the grille isnt helping, it looks horrible and serves no purpose. Chinese cars in general just better looking than VW at the moment.

[@krane15]

Hmm, wonder why that is? Maybe because China is the fastest growing automobile market in the world right now.

[@kanavaro2010]

This review is biased because he didn’t show the interior of the VW Tiguan, which has cheap interior finishes and outdated technology. Unless money isn’t a concern, it's hard to understand why anyone would still buy this overpriced car.

[@Autotradersa]

We dived into more detail in this video review, where we found the new tech to be rather impressive. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnjEgpVjfrdgp5I

[@loganpadayachee6048]

You can't compare Chinese to German engineering seriously 😂

[@bethelmadida9513]

Rest well knowing that tiguan is literally Chinese and developed for the Chinese market.. Oh and Geely is assisting Mercedes with the next CLA and they own most of Mercedes

[@craigabrahams1797]

I have to disagree. VW has a joint venture with Chinese company SAIC to build all VW group cars sold in China, they have a deal with a Chinese tech companies to help the Germans 'engineer' better infotainment systems and autonomous driving tech. Geely and SAIC are the largest shareholder in Daimler Benz and Geely has owned Volvo since 2010. About 1 in every 2 vehicles sold in China is an EV, so there is no financial gain to be had by throwing all your money at R&D for engines. The biggest car market in the world dictates what you need to focus on.

[@sandisongwenya4667]

The only time to spend on a German is performance cars. Otherwise daily drivers for most people, then look elsewhere. Majority of things in this world have alot of Chinese components. From now, go and do research about the legacy companies and see how the Chinese improved their products - you will see they took the best human skills and resources from all parts of the globe, including from the Germans and the went a step further and bought controlling equity in the loved legacy brands. If they didn't buy, they went into JV's where they had significant access to skills resources and know how because they have a big and very important market for all those legacy brands most people commenting without knowledge can't even afford

[@mashilo1869]

Let's be honest here. This c9 is much superior to this Tiguan.

[@Yanga_M]

Correction. Geely owns just under 10% of Mercedes​@@bethelmadida9513

[@erichweggelaar1320]

VW always. Chinese, never R60 000 More for a tiguan is way way worth it. Chinese = pretend to be good VW = solid uncompromising ethical car

[@kmakumane258]

Vw being ethical? 🤣🤣🤣

[@AllAutoMuseum]

VW = ethical and uncompromising hahahaha you're in cuckooland

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@kmakumane258 China ethical?

[@erichweggelaar1320]

@AllAutoMuseum yes Chinese lack of ethics overshadows VW, or any other car brand.

[@Mstshepana90]

800k for a Chinese car the world is coming to an end seriously