Volvo Amazon 123 GT - An Astonishing Tale Of Missed Opportunity

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Күн бұрын

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@Tacko14
@Tacko14 7 ай бұрын
I’m almost scared to say it, but here goes. This allures to me more than any supercar. Just a humble family car, tuned to perform well in competition, does more for me than any special no limits dreamcar that never even raced. And I think that a road legal car doesn’t need over, oh, 300hp? to be fun. As Jay Leno said, he doesn’t like cars that go zip-zip-zip and you’re at 200mph. He likes cars that provide the journey towards the goal. I agree wholeheartedly.
@TheInstructor66
@TheInstructor66 7 ай бұрын
I totally agree. I have a 1969 Alfa Romeo 1300 gt junior, now sporting a «fast road» 1750 ccm. Small car combined with a angry reving 4-banger, let you have fun within the speedlimits. 80 km/h feels like 100+. I never wanted a «supercar», but for me its a super car to have super fun with. She is a keeper. 🍀
@4WDIESEL1
@4WDIESEL1 7 ай бұрын
well said
@Aleiza_49
@Aleiza_49 7 ай бұрын
Volvos in general have a quirky charm to them that's difficult to describe, I daily a 98' S90 (960) that I like more than any of the sports cars I've ever owned. Though, this Amazon does make me wonder how Volvo would've evolved differently if they hadn't become obsessed with safety. Like the later R models showed the Volvo could still make an outstanding performance vehicle....they just didn't care much to build more of them.
@Surestick88
@Surestick88 7 ай бұрын
#slowcarfast
@davidgoliath5901
@davidgoliath5901 7 ай бұрын
Emphatically agree! Character in spades....
@markirvin2809
@markirvin2809 7 ай бұрын
I had a friend who was finishing his medical degree at UNSW. It was British Racing Green, with everything highly polished and tuned to perfection. He allowed me to drive it down the north coast of NSW from Newcastle to Sydney. It handled superbly and I have never forgotten that afternoon drive to this day and I am 75 now. These are very hard to find now and I probably would not be able to drive it as I have Metastasized Prostate Cancer with bone lesions - makes it hard to sit in a car properly. The memory of that day is fabulous.
@Ozcrazy49
@Ozcrazy49 7 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear of your illness. Keep well.
@andrewwinters8467
@andrewwinters8467 7 ай бұрын
Indeed, sorry to hear you are sick. I hope you are getting good care and are improving; Saludos!
@peterduxbury927
@peterduxbury927 7 ай бұрын
I am your age too, and also lusted after the Amazon! However, in 1979, I bought a '69 Volvo 142 S. The 142 S was the same B18B engine with twin SU Carbs. I truly loved the car, and I kept it for 3 years. I did have one 'annual' problem with the car. The Clutch Cable used to break around every 12 months, and I checked everything, that the Cable was routed and secured on the car correctly. I always used genuine Volvo Cables, but never understood why this Cable used to break! The 142S also had the electric Overdrive Unit - which I had to replace with new. It's good to reminisce, and I'm sorry to hear of your prostate problems that (I hope) you are receiving the very best care. I moved to Sydney (from the UK) in 1988. Today, I drive a 1971 Super Beetle that is 100% electric, and Tesla-powered. Best wishes to you.
@stuarthart3370
@stuarthart3370 5 ай бұрын
that's a wonderful memory
@john1703
@john1703 7 ай бұрын
In the 60s, with longtudinal engines and gearboxes, 4th gear was direct, with the input and output shaft locked together, rather than driving via the layshaft. That made it quieter when cruising. Modern transverse engines and gearboxes always take the drive out of the "other" shaft, like a motorbike. So you can have as many ratios as you care to fit.
@betaorionis2164
@betaorionis2164 7 ай бұрын
@Turnipstalk There were extremely few 5 speed gearboxes before 1970. Alfa Romeos, IIRC and performance cars, maybe some more, but very few. It's true also that engines tended to be torquey and there were few highways. Overdrives were common in British cars, but not in the rest of Europe.
@betaorionis2164
@betaorionis2164 7 ай бұрын
@Turnipstalk Me too.
@alanclarkeau
@alanclarkeau 7 ай бұрын
​@@betaorionis2164 FIAT too.
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 7 ай бұрын
Alfa Romeo introduced the 5 speed transmission in 1962 with Fiat following in the late 1960s (1967 I believe) in their Fiat 2300 coupe. Both of the aforesaid transmissions had a direct fourth gear and an indirect 5 gear. The Laycock de Normanville's overdrive unit was mainly used by UK OEMs as an economically cheaper solution to adding a '5th gear' to an existing 4 speed transmission - i.e. essentially a bolt on solution. It lost favour in the 1970s because it was heavier than a 5 speed gearbox and presented some reliabiliy issues if not properly maintained. My experience with the overdrive unit is its persistant and infuriating oil leaks.
@davidnorton5887
@davidnorton5887 7 ай бұрын
On the latest Jimny 5th gear is 1:1, so does that mean this is direct also?
@frugalterrier8124
@frugalterrier8124 7 ай бұрын
They were so popular here in Canada that an assembly plant was built in Halifax Nova Scotia. Tough as they were, road salt killed many before their time. They did hold up better than most contemporary cars. Brilliant little sports sedan, particularly in this GT spec.
@sonicstep
@sonicstep 7 ай бұрын
I recall reading on the internet that Volvo 122 series models were being built at a plant in Canada. I was very surprised.
@frugalterrier8124
@frugalterrier8124 7 ай бұрын
@@sonicstep The Halifax assembly plant lasted into the early 70’s with the 140 series cars, I believe.
@coldlakealta4043
@coldlakealta4043 7 ай бұрын
the assembly kits that were sent over were used in their entirety, save for the radial tires and upscale lighting assemblies which had to be downgraded to our lousy existing Federal regulations at the time. I've seen a picture of a yard full of tires waiting to be scrapped.
@adrianl7147
@adrianl7147 Ай бұрын
Indeed. The Halifax assembled cars had a little "Canadian" badge on the boot lid---and were also known as Volvo Canadians. My '66 is still going strong with no rust here on the West Coast.
@phillowen38
@phillowen38 7 ай бұрын
I drove my ‘66 1800 for 17 years, have no idea how many miles or kilometers it had because it was equipped with Smiths instruments which if fortunate were good for about 10,000 miles; finally gave up with repairs. Smiths, a good example why there are no British car manufacturers today. Volvo repaired my car for the first three years and I repaired the car for the next 14 years. Still, it remains my favorite car of all those I have owned.
@zogzoogler
@zogzoogler 7 ай бұрын
The Volvo Amazon and the Saab 96 occupy the same area in my mind. Volvo is still a brilliant manufacturer whilst Saab has gone to the wall. Its hip to be square!
@jamesdecross1035
@jamesdecross1035 7 ай бұрын
"Cheaper than psychiatry!" - WTF!!! I'm rolling on the floor with laughter…
@strayedcat1966
@strayedcat1966 2 ай бұрын
Cheaper than dirt and drive like you hate it!
@stevenr2463
@stevenr2463 7 ай бұрын
My uncle in Salzburg had one as well as a P1800 back in the sixties. I was very impressed as a kid visiting from Guernsey (with our 35 mph speed limit) that these Volvos easily did and kept 180 km/h on the autobahn!
@Lemma01
@Lemma01 7 ай бұрын
Let's be clear - you can't really do much more than that speed for any length of time in the most modern cars - did 1,300km + yesterday from Italy to UK and didn't get over 170km/h anywhere...😢
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 7 ай бұрын
More like 130 or max 140 km/h, and that also for a race tuned car with the works done on the engine and suspension with good wider radial tyres like Michelin or Pirelli of the day. The B18 and B20 engines were the pushrod, longer crank design, which produced good torque but low on power - the gearbox did all the speed conversion. They were robust engines and performed well as a road car, but was certainly not a racer from birth.
@Lemma01
@Lemma01 7 ай бұрын
@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 More like it, certainly. My 1972 Elan is supposed to be good for 200km/h. I've owned it for almost forty years and never felt like trying anything much over 160...
@kavinskysmith4094
@kavinskysmith4094 5 ай бұрын
about a 110, that sounds about right for an old 90 HP 4 banger
@jo05dk
@jo05dk 7 ай бұрын
I grew up with Volvos, 140s and 240s, but later on 7-series and a 960. Watching this made my heart feel all warm and fuzzy. I do love me an Amazon. Such a good looking, and incredibly robust, car. ..and then a 123GT… Yum! This got me way more than most expensive super cars.
@nicce12
@nicce12 7 ай бұрын
A friend of my father had a brand spakning new Amazon 123 GT, they took a vacation with the car to UK one summer and felt that they had the coolest and quickest car around. In London they ended up next to a little open sports car at a traffic light, and reved at it a bit, When the light turned green they were left in the dust by a embarising wide margin. Not feeling so cool anymore thay later realised that the little car was a AC Cobra...
@jacksat2252
@jacksat2252 7 ай бұрын
Brings back memories, my father bought his first new car in 1968 and it was a white Amazon. I was born in in1970 and if we made a long trip and drove back home in the evening I always fell asleep because of the whining sound of the gearbox, especially if he brakes with the engine and downshifts.
@Jim-hq2kp
@Jim-hq2kp 7 ай бұрын
Had a 1969 2 door 121 B20 in the mid 70s. Drove it all over the UK doing lighting for concerts. Got stopped for speeding returning home from a Pink Floyd gig in Southampton. Cops were driving a Volvo and spent 20 minutes looking over the car admiringly, but still got a ticket. Diana Ross hired a Broadway director, and when he saw my car, asked if he could travel with me. I would drop him off at the Savoy in the early hours after shows.
@sebastiend.5335
@sebastiend.5335 7 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: Theo van de Rijt, the driver of the DAF TurboTwin that crashed in Dakar in '88 and good friend of the family, has completely redone an Amazon to bear metal. Its a gorgeous beige example! Thanks Jack for another great video. Greetings from the Netherlands
@brianwallace6566
@brianwallace6566 7 ай бұрын
love that beige!
@MacBob
@MacBob 7 ай бұрын
Gorgeous and beige can never appear in the same sentence 😅
@sebastiend.5335
@sebastiend.5335 7 ай бұрын
@@MacBob Absolutely and totally agree. But it somehow works for this car! ;)
@e28forever30
@e28forever30 7 ай бұрын
Grizzly bear metal or polar bear metal?
@sebastiend.5335
@sebastiend.5335 5 ай бұрын
​@@e28forever30Excuse my Dutch. Haha
@brianfarrelly7151
@brianfarrelly7151 7 ай бұрын
Cars from pre 1970 had great character and although rust proofing left a lot to be desired, they were simple to tinker with - without a computer or expensive tools. Love your narrative style and list of cars. Keep it up.
@ChildSpaceMethod
@ChildSpaceMethod 7 ай бұрын
'65 122S rustproofing was extremely thick.
@adrianl7147
@adrianl7147 7 ай бұрын
Zero rust on my '66 Amazon. The Swedes were very proud of their undercoating
@loveisall5520
@loveisall5520 5 күн бұрын
Unlike today, the P5 44 and the 122S seemed to be all over the place here in the US. Their reputation was stellar back then. That, and they were famous for their heating and their front seats. Thank you for sharing this one with us!
@paulmillard1130
@paulmillard1130 7 ай бұрын
Always loved this model, distinctive and classy.
@mkadair
@mkadair 7 ай бұрын
I have a soft spot for Swedish cars. Thanks Jack!
@Number27
@Number27 7 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it and thanks for joining up as a member!
@rolfmak1400
@rolfmak1400 7 ай бұрын
I used to have a B20 about 24 years ago. Also a red 2 door. One of the nicest cars I ever had. It was one of the last production month (May 1970) and precisely as old as I was (May 1970). Good memories! I sold it in the state of “needs restauration or for parts”. From the registration records I know it must have been restored quite recently, because it is now insured. Love to see it back one day. Great car, drove beautifully and sporty.
@sonicstep
@sonicstep 7 ай бұрын
"I know it must have been restored quite recently, because it is insured." Interesting.
@james5353
@james5353 7 ай бұрын
Love that ribbon speedo what a pretty thing
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork 7 ай бұрын
Back when I sold new Volvos (for Linn Glasgow) we kept a lovely white 123GT in the showroom. Two fun facts you missed are that the two foglights are actually one foglight and one driving light. Also, the thing has an LSD.
@Jordanmilo
@Jordanmilo 5 ай бұрын
My father had a used 544 Sport in the early '70s with that same combination of lights; must have been a thing back then.
@DavidSkidmore-e5t
@DavidSkidmore-e5t 7 ай бұрын
We were farmers back in the day.. father bought121 1965 model in 1966...my uncle bought a 122s In 1966..... never drove it waznt aloud...😂.only when my cousin bought fathers car I finally drove it 👌 today I still think it's a handsome car and built like brick s..........e ..loved the way interior door tops molded into dash and the endless gearlever🤪
@russparker1647
@russparker1647 7 ай бұрын
Brings back fond memories of my 123GT. Haven’t seen one on the road for many decades
@jlucht1000
@jlucht1000 7 ай бұрын
You have my old 444 CUCMBR there! Exciting!
@stevekovacs6250
@stevekovacs6250 7 ай бұрын
I must say that Volvo did make great cars in the 60's but also all the way up to the early 90's at the end of the 240 range. I own a 1986 Volvo 245 (Swedish tank) that is now turning over 390,000 miles still not burning a drop of oil. These cars were always overbuilt.
@gscheidhaferlvomdienst6864
@gscheidhaferlvomdienst6864 7 ай бұрын
I restored 5 of them, and drove one with the no 46 Red color over years. Best and reliable car ever. Simple technics, always running.... Now I get a 245 station wagon
@rustyturner431
@rustyturner431 7 ай бұрын
Now, Jack... The PV544 was actually the first car with 3-point belts standard, in 1959. But seatbelts had been around since 1949, available as an option on Nash cars in the USA. Ford USA offered belts as a $9 option in 1956, as part ot its "Lifeguard" safety campaign that was well-intentioned but a total bomb with the buying public. The seats were done by Volvo in-house, not by Recaro, and were the same as those on early 140-series cars. That ZF steering box might have benefitted from adjusting and some fresh lubricant...try THAT with your "modern" rack-and-pinion! And, yes, you can move the seats back, as there are additional holes in the rails for taller drivers - remember, Swedes are bigger than many people (think Eric Carlsson). These 123 GTs were quite good cars, with a stiffer structure than most cars of the day. They did quite well in both rallying and in amateur saloon car racing, even in the States. On paper, the car could not compete with the Alfa Guilia Super...but in the real world it held its own much better than you might have expected. And, it didn't rust away before your very eyes (that said by an Alfisti who's owned several Guilia Supers, in various states of corrosion from none to ghastly). I'm more enthusiastic about Webers than you are, and the best set-up for one of these Volvos was a single 45 DCOE with 38mm choke tubes, on a longer-tubed manifold than the standard. This added about 10 bhp and was very easy to tune; it gave you notably better mid-to-top range power. I love the exhaust note!
@georgebettiol8338
@georgebettiol8338 7 ай бұрын
Agree with the single side draught weber - far more reliable and easier to tune than the pesky SUs. The 1956 ford seat belt solution was lap only - and was not a robust solution for the motor car as head strikes were a major contributor to road fatalities.
@gazzafloss
@gazzafloss 7 ай бұрын
Jack, 50 years ago I used to travel a 100klm round trip to work in a Volvo 122 as part of a "car pool" arrangement with work colleagues, I thought it went rather well for a 1.8 litre engine carying four substantial adults in comfort. Also had friends at the time who owned a P1800, in a beautiful "baby blue" colour, I always thought that the styling of Volvos was a bit "curious" they sort of went against the popular styling but made nice solid well engineered cars. They were certainly capable of using that extra odometer digit many times over.
@andrewwinters8467
@andrewwinters8467 7 ай бұрын
This is the holy grail for us Volvo nuts - the 123GT. I had several of the normal versions, the 122S aka Amazon and they were great cars. They didn't have a tremendous amount of power but their handling was so well balanced you could throw it into a corner and it would always come out straight ahead and dare you to do it again. They were also very easy to work on and I learned a lot about doing it myself from my Volvos. Long may they run.
@GiguereSylvain
@GiguereSylvain 7 ай бұрын
This was my very first car.. I was 18 then. Mine was a 1969 - 122S with B20 (2liter) engine.. what a car! Many of my friends were so impressed that bought that same car. Then, the next cars were 142E.. and then 164E . Comfortable, solid.. but no fun anymore. Next I switched to Saab 99GL, the fun was back, and only drove Saabs ever since. My 9'-5 is 16 years old, looks like new, drives like new, and I pamper it like the most precious I own and drive. I can't see what could replace it, nor could afford it.. and, no, not a Prius. Great but boring.. lol
@sopastar
@sopastar 7 ай бұрын
Why wasn't the 142 fun?
@GiguereSylvain
@GiguereSylvain 7 ай бұрын
@@sopastar Hi there. Though the 122S and 142 shared same engine, transmission, and same type of suspension.. they were very different. The differential/transmission ratio was different = so, the 142 had shorter speeds to work with and kept you changing speed constantly, while the 122 had nice long speeds and could reach 90mph in third gear for passing cars.. the 142 could not.. the 122 could take steep curves like a sporty car (like a P1800) because his short motion/stiffer suspension, while the 142 with soft comfy suspension and heavier weight.. could just not follow a 122. They had different caracter and behavior. Yes, the 142 was a much prettier, comfortable, solid 'family' car, but even the 142'E' edition, wich I owned, and was supposed to 'perform'.. was that, a nice comfy boring americanised car. Just not aimed at the same clients. I keep very vivid memories of 🔥 drives of all of the four 122S I've owned.. great cars. A P1800 disguised into an antique car..
@sopastar
@sopastar 7 ай бұрын
@@GiguereSylvain Thank you for sharing your dealings with these cars! It's easy to get fooled by the numbers since the 142 is faster from 0 to 60 "on paper," so real life experience is really valuable. All cars with a B20 use the same differential except in some export markets from what I've been able to find, so maybe the 142 was supposed to be good too and you guys just got snubbed. I'm partial to my own P210, but I will say that after having driven a SAAB 99GL, I do get it
@GiguereSylvain
@GiguereSylvain 7 ай бұрын
@@sopastar It's fun to share experiences. I'm in Canada, may be there were different versions of the 142? I've owned both, 122S and 142E.. and 164E. 122S had 'long' speeds (like my Norton!) I could reach 90mph in 3rd gear no problem. Not with the 142 and its 'short' speeds.. so, some ratio was different somewhere I guess. We were a bunch of friends with 122S and we all faced the same problem when we switched to the 142.. As well, the softer suspension of the 142 did not invite one to swift sporty driving on winding roads but rather to the highway.. wich is ok. In fact, the 122S was much closer to the P1800. And yes, I bought a Saab 99GL by 'accident' lol and never drove anything else since, except a Honda a couple of years and a Mitsubishi. I love my 9-5 though I really prefered the old 900 classic serie.. ;-)
@daveperry4391
@daveperry4391 7 ай бұрын
I had a 122S that was lovingly named the "Big Red Oil Burner" which was totally incorrect but a great name never the less. Loved the big light on the dash for Warp Drive in 3rd & 4th !!
@thatcheapguy525
@thatcheapguy525 7 ай бұрын
I remember the 120 & 122S back in the day but had no idea of the 123 existence until today.
@VinDieselS70
@VinDieselS70 7 ай бұрын
My dad had one and I remember the Speedo being fully red when we went down to the south of Sweden in the 70s as it easily did 110+ mph or over 180+ km/h. My uncle had one too. Absolute Rockets for what it was.
@thatcheapguy525
@thatcheapguy525 7 ай бұрын
@@VinDieselS70 not many mass market family saloons could go that fast back in the 70s. Jack really does uncover some great oddballs.
@simonhjc
@simonhjc 7 ай бұрын
Every friday i grab a coffe and watch these. A walk down memory lane. My neighbour had exactly this car and as a kid i would listen to it start up and burble. What a memory! Thanks Jack
@thedoctor7198
@thedoctor7198 7 ай бұрын
My neighbor used to work at Volvo. He worked on assembling the line from 1967-1984. It's nice to hear how they used to do it, and he himself owns a pv444 and an Amazon.
@teebird94
@teebird94 7 ай бұрын
My earliest memories of my Uncle Don is he always had a Volvo for winter and Thunderbird for summer...and he had an Amazon in my earliest memory later the square Volvos
@crhvideo
@crhvideo 7 ай бұрын
My dad had one of these when I was a little boy, an actual 123GT. I never had an idea how rare these were. It was a cool car. I haven't seen one in a long time. I still remember the long gear lever and that it had a high beam switch on the floor. Thanks for showing this one!
@snakeplissken5480
@snakeplissken5480 7 ай бұрын
Sven "we built a great car olaf , what bits shall we keep for the new model" Olaf "The seat belts"
@VinDieselS70
@VinDieselS70 7 ай бұрын
Olaf was Norwegian
@psircos
@psircos 7 ай бұрын
That volvo sounds brilliant! What a lovely old school engine tone. Great looker too
@confederatenationalist7283
@confederatenationalist7283 7 ай бұрын
The B18 was ultimately developed into the B20 with fuel injection in the 140 series during the 1970's.That together with the 6 cylinder 164 was the peak for Volvo.These weren't slow by the standard of the day still with easy to maintain pushrod design.Then it was all downhill with the OHC and Renault V6 2 series then the move to front wheel drive.
@paulboyle6857
@paulboyle6857 7 ай бұрын
Very popular in classic rallying & for good reason, Swedish & strong! A late friend used to rally a 122GT &, of course the earlier 544 Amazon is still campaigned my many people.
@polygamous1
@polygamous1 7 ай бұрын
In the 60s 3 cars stood up above all others for quality build and reliability the Volvo the Peugeot 403 and the Lancia, my cousin had a Lancia 2000 it was a brilliant car very solid looked good and was brilliant to drive like Italian cars are, the P1800 Volvo engine was marinized too, because it's specific fuel consumption was the best at the time with reliability to match all these 3 cars were excellent in their own ways thanks Jack
@arrangrant4614
@arrangrant4614 7 ай бұрын
One of my old bosses had the estate version back in the 1980s. Lovely car it was built like a tank👍
@johnandrews3568
@johnandrews3568 7 ай бұрын
Oh baby this is sweeeeeet!. BIG fan of 60s-70s Volvos. I had the use of a 73 240 wagon one summer as a teenager and drove the pi$$ out of it and it begged for more. That Amazon has a great exhaust and induction note.
@liverush24
@liverush24 7 ай бұрын
An old fella by me, has a lovely, blue Amazon. He's also got a golden brown P1800, a blue V8 Rover P6, a P5B & an old Jaguar XJ12.
@bodan1196
@bodan1196 7 ай бұрын
A class mate of mine in the 1980:s, had an Amazon, in which he had "tinkered" with the engine, seeing it produce a "little" more than 200 HP. Somewhat self-consciously, he called it "The Red Danger."
@Low760
@Low760 7 ай бұрын
Volvo did dynamic cars after the Amazon, the 140 had r sport options, as did 240s, they raced turbo 240s in group a even. It's not like they didn't have a sporty version. The market overall was the issue.
@grumpy9478
@grumpy9478 7 ай бұрын
I sold Volvos & drove a 242 GT w/ manual in the mid-80's as my demo. Even coming from Alfas, BMWs & Porsches I found it fun to drive... solid, linear & responsive. Felt lighter than the sedans, carried speed well.
@Vidar.m
@Vidar.m 7 ай бұрын
I love the old volvoes, all the car you could ever need.
@babylon5mh
@babylon5mh 7 ай бұрын
The P1800 and the Amazon are my favourite Volvo of all time. The Amazon has a slight look of the early Rover coupe, I think, and I love those too
@per-hakansvahn8044
@per-hakansvahn8044 7 ай бұрын
Great review. My dad had three Amazon’s during he sixties. The last one was a red 122s 2 door he drove for two years. He was an elevator mechanic. In 68 and 69 he worked in Stockholm 500 km from our home. He drove home almost every weekend for two years starting at lunchtime on friday and going back to Stockholm late sunday afternoon. With 5 months of winter and the types of roads Sweden had in those days the Amazon was really put to the test. Like my father of course. He had at least 7-8 Volvos after that but I think this car was his absolute favorite.
@peterbyrne3706
@peterbyrne3706 7 ай бұрын
This is probably the most surprising car review of yours I've seen. Great car for its day there were a few around 70s 80s but now I understand why there were people who loved them.
@donaldfedosiuk1638
@donaldfedosiuk1638 7 ай бұрын
A friend had a 122s which he ran with whatever Michelin was the tire-du-jour of the time and (I think) Konis. It was amazing how many ostensibly more "sporting" cars he could show his back bumper to. Though I later owned a P-1800, I always lusted for a 123 GT which was pretty much unobtainable. This brought back memories.
@stephenricketts7764
@stephenricketts7764 7 ай бұрын
The Amazon was one of volvo's best designs for the time in my opinion along with the P 1800. They still race in historic rallies as I suppose this one does. I have seen two videos this year of Gt's been given the beans around Olton Park and they go very well even in wet conditions. Thanks Jack for a great review. The older cars are much more my thing though I know you like to showcase 'future classics' too which is fine. 👍👍
@MrRea112
@MrRea112 7 ай бұрын
Shades of Rover P4 in the styling. Nice
@2702simmo
@2702simmo 7 ай бұрын
I had a friend who dailied an Amazon for years . We lost touch but I still see it out and about Cool cars
@peterericson890
@peterericson890 7 ай бұрын
I m swedish had two Amzon back in the days, loved them .... and still do
@Ozcrazy49
@Ozcrazy49 7 ай бұрын
A very underrated motor car.
@manosparavida3551
@manosparavida3551 7 ай бұрын
My apprenticeship mentor bought one of these from a scrapyard for £30 in 1978 and traded it in for an Orion Ghia in 1990 after years of trouble free motoring. During that same period my mate's dad (a farmer) bought a Volvo 164 brand new in 1971 and has now had it totally restored. It had tge most whisper quiet engine I've ever heard and truly luxurious inside too.
@murrieteacher
@murrieteacher 7 ай бұрын
The Amazon was, no, still is a great car. It has a very special place in my list of cars I would like to own. Thanks Jack for a great video.
@jimcrichton8028
@jimcrichton8028 7 ай бұрын
I always understood that the Amazon models that started alongside the p444 models was designed by a subgroup of volvo employees in their own time and then persuaded the mangement to adopt it. My Uncle had a 122S in the early 60s that he loved.
@dhatchbernier
@dhatchbernier 7 ай бұрын
I love your channel. You’re so knowledgeable on so many cars, like Marisa Tomei in “My Cousin Vinny.” But I love that you’re always smiling and seem to love what you do!
@raymondo162
@raymondo162 7 ай бұрын
10:56: ".....figures on the tachometer.." i think you meant to say 'odometer' or mileometer ??
@slicedbread9003
@slicedbread9003 7 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that Volvo was often called a truck maker that made cars. I test drove a 240 back in the '80's and commented that it drove like a truck. Not fun to drive. But they do have some breakthrough cars. The Amazon being one of them. The 850 being another. It's funny that I have owned a Volvo Estate for some time. It is not the most fun to drive, but as a truck that I don't need a commercial drivers license for, it's pretty good a hauling stuff.
@hurri7720
@hurri7720 7 ай бұрын
I quite liked to drive my 164E, a volf in a sheep's clöthes. Fast and very stable and robust.. But it took atleast half a year for me to get confident with it after driving an Alfa Romeo 2000 Berlina for years. 150 hp 3L on a straight six in the Volvo and fuel injection. I think I would still like it and upset people with so called sport cars.
@powerswearingfluids
@powerswearingfluids 7 ай бұрын
You couldn´t be more right about the volvo 121-123 amazon. Who can name a more durable and reliable car. Probably something like the Toyota j20 or mercedes w123 would come close. Rigid body welding phosphated body panels dipped into rustproofing liquids amongst others in the manufacturing process that I just copied from some page and then been driven literally through forests by overconfident but unarguably drunk swedish and finnish men. Such a beautiful history. less than 1,1 tons, 52/48 Front to rear weight distribution because I play computer games and currently trying to get fired from my security job, and a tractor derived engine with a tractor derived driver sitting mostly behind the front axle always impressing spectators with a beautiful turn in at the entry of the corner thus mostly leaving them horrified whilst trying to find the exit when heroically gazing through the side window before hitting a tree at a tremendous 30 mph. True legend was probably someone who nobody could remember.
@tonycamplin8607
@tonycamplin8607 7 ай бұрын
Back in the 1960s we had an Amazon, a fantastic car. Ours was a Rudd Speed car, an officially approved tuned verson before your car was made. For its day it was very fast and with the improved suspension and brakes a great cat to drive.
@jimrudolph1582
@jimrudolph1582 7 ай бұрын
Currently working on a Canadian made 21’ cuddy cabin with a pair of aq170(b30) Volvos sporting triple solex downdrafts each. Sure look pretty with the chrome package and sure move that boat along nicely.
@waynemullally6423
@waynemullally6423 7 ай бұрын
Loved my 122S, but had to stick my hand up under the dash to unjam the windshield wipers, and if i wasn't paying attention trying to start it, I would break the key off in the ignition. The trunk latch was shyte, and fenders rusted, but I got to teach all my friends, and girls to drive standard
@kimhenry5658
@kimhenry5658 7 ай бұрын
I had a 124 for a few years in the early 2010s as my daily driver and I loved it (mostly). Of course it was getting old by then but it had many features that kept it up to date. Mostly the disc brakes up front and the twin carbs and extractors but then I bought a 1970 244 to scavenge parts from. So in went the 2 litre engine and the 5 speed gearbox, the collapsible steering column, the headrests and retractable seatbelts. So good but in the end just an old car with enough problems that I upgraded to something newer. If I had buckets of money and space I’d still own it.
@patlilburn5251
@patlilburn5251 7 ай бұрын
I had what I thought was called a ‘68 122S - didn’t have the hotter engine, had high back seats, the electronic overdrive…I loved that car and drove it pretty literally into the ground as the body and miscellaneous bit rusted off by the later ‘80s. Easy to work on, really steady, and yep fun to drive.
@path7786
@path7786 7 ай бұрын
For the North American market, the amazons were built in Halifax, Canada.
@adrianl7147
@adrianl7147 Ай бұрын
They were. I think they were all 122S with the twin SU carbs. Personally I think the 123 GT is a bit gimmicky and I dislike the tachometer in the middle of the dash. My 122S has about 105 HP.
@Jdub6580
@Jdub6580 7 ай бұрын
There's an Amazon in storage in my town and it'll never happen but it's such a bucket list dream to purchase that and fix it up into rally trim. It's just a different kind of fun I'm sure.
@mlindblom
@mlindblom 7 ай бұрын
7:52. Thats a small boy driving for the first time... :)
@goncalomoura8156
@goncalomoura8156 7 ай бұрын
Really surprised! And that engine sounds so sweet from the inside of the car! Never thought the Amazons were this good. Now I know why so often we see these in Classic rallying…
@declanburke4146
@declanburke4146 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video, you are very well informed on this car. I’ve owned a 123GT for 6 years now and can honestly say, it’s the only classic I’ll ever need ❤ The styling and build quality from 60s Volvos was way ahead of its time. The engineering and durability of the B18/B20 inline 4 pushrod engine is unsurpassed for its time. Mine is now tuned to 230bhp/205lbft, 11.5:1 on Weber 48DCO. Only downsides to Amazon ownership is steering not great as you mentioned, the exterior trim is a pain to fit/line up, and the rev counter on the 123gt is too small for serious driving. Great video. Followed 👍
@pellepp9628
@pellepp9628 7 ай бұрын
As a swede, this was a Nice video😊😊
@ysteinhansen2119
@ysteinhansen2119 7 ай бұрын
My first car was a '67 Volvo Amazon Herregardsvogn (Estate) with a modest B17 back in 1989. Pretty unconventional for a 18 year old, but I loved the car!
@tordamsleth7460
@tordamsleth7460 8 күн бұрын
A friend of mine had a 1971 123 gt B 20 which we souped up to about 170 hp. Volvo penta top with 44mm intake and exhaust valves, G cam, 2 x 45mm Delorto carburators, 2.5" exhaust and Volvo Penta steel timing gear. The car also had a limited slip differential and was very fast topping out at about 210 kph at 7500 rpm.🙂
@petercarlsson6606
@petercarlsson6606 7 ай бұрын
The volvo PV, the Amazon, P1800, and the following Volvo 142, 144, 242 and 244 was extremely high quality and reliable cars with bullet proof engines, up to the early 90s.
@mnbalfour1985
@mnbalfour1985 22 күн бұрын
2:10 one of the few inline four cylinder engines with a good exhaust note.
@beembeem-z6j
@beembeem-z6j 7 ай бұрын
I drive my 1970 145 most days, great intake growl, pushrod sounds and such a good ride on Mexican cobblestones and topes , also sad that the p1800 and 145 where the peak.
@famousutopias
@famousutopias 4 ай бұрын
I had a 144 and a 242 but when I had a chance to drive a 122 2 door that was outfitted with a number of performance upgrades (weber side draft dcoe iirc) and I was blown away by how much fun it was to drive. This was late 1980s-1990 and “sport sedan” was the prevailing term for BMW, etc. The 122 was on the cusp of sport sedan and your 123 or the beefed up 122 really was just that. As solid a car as the 140/240 was, Volvo lost that fun factor for 20+ years until the 850 turbo came out
@DavidJones-cf6ph
@DavidJones-cf6ph 7 ай бұрын
Jack thanks you for this very interesting and informative video, as others have said these are often overlooked and mis-understood. I own and race a Volvo Amazon in the UK HRDC Touring Greats series, it gets lots of attention and is really good fun to drive although it cannot hold a candle to the more powerful and highly developed Lotus Cortina's it gives the Cortina GT's and Alfa Guilia Supers a good run for their money. The engines are very simple and bomb proof and availability of parts is excellent both here and across Europe. I also have a 123GT look alike which is actually a 122S that I bought as a "spare" body shell for the race car but turned out to be far nicer than I expected and thus we have spent some time and effort getting it readied to tackle some regularity rallies here and in France. There are a lot of Amazons and P1800s in historic rallying as they are a tough, reliable machines and easy to prepare with simple upgrades. Nice to see some good positive reactions to your video, keep up the good work.
@Number27
@Number27 7 ай бұрын
Thanks David and enjoy your car? Great to hear you’re racing it!!
@iangray7410
@iangray7410 7 ай бұрын
Love it ! I bought a crashed 123GT and put the engine & transmission into my Amazon wagon. Turned a few heads on the highway for the speed it held with ease.
@mbj__
@mbj__ 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video 👍 Our daily driver back at our farm here in Sweden is a Volvo 210 Duett 1966. A fantastic small delivery van/ estate mix ❤
@klesmer
@klesmer 7 ай бұрын
Wow, what a trip down memory lane. Growing up in a Volvo family I became a master Volvo tech for over 50yrs.I can't tell you how many times Volvo snatched defeat from the jaws of success. I finally left Volvo for good in 2006 after Ford gained controlling interest. Ford made good Fords, everything else they touched was a disaster.
@rustyturner431
@rustyturner431 5 ай бұрын
Addendum: Volvo had another go in the early 1970s with the 142 GT and the 142E. Neither got much attention beyond the buff books, and the production numbers were low...but they were still interesting. Volvo also made the excellent 164 at that time; it was easily the best buy among the "senior" European cars at the time. For just a bit more money than a 2002 BMW you got a big 6cyl sedan with tons of room and a HUGE boot. I had a chance to drive one from Texas to California, and it was a splendid road car, quiet and capable of running 85mph all day with no issues and 24mpg with the overdrive. I tried to get my then-wife to consider one...but she was a Jaguar girl and wanted no part of anything so utilitarian. She described it as "agricultural", but she was a ballet dancer and had never been on a farm in her life, so her opinion was not well-founded.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 7 ай бұрын
What a great car! Would love to know what it’s like to drive with wing mirrors on the end of the bonnet. Great review as always Jack.
@hpterrick
@hpterrick 7 ай бұрын
There's a chap who loves his work! Another great video
@georgejohnson1498
@georgejohnson1498 7 күн бұрын
In a quiet way the Amazon was one of the best looking cars ever made. I would prefer the standard tuning as speeding does not interest me at all. My favourite variant of the Amazon is the Wagon, as the rear visibility is better and the car generally more useful. I believe the very early Amazons caused a few headaches at Volvo, because they were prone to rust, but that was soon rectified. Best wishes from George
@MrCarrera28
@MrCarrera28 7 ай бұрын
Great video, fantastic to see such a seminal car in amazing condition being driven as was originally intended. It is most enjoyable seeing you review cars that are not the same as everyone else and brining your own passion and interest to cars that most of us are never going to be privileged enough to get to drive.
@patrickodonnell4109
@patrickodonnell4109 7 ай бұрын
Great video !! Would love to see a P1800 on your channel. Had a 1969 white one with red interior many years ago. Never should have sold it. Thanks for another excellent video, Jack.
@richardstamper5630
@richardstamper5630 7 ай бұрын
It still ranks as one of my favourites and I am on the lookout for a decent example. Excellent review, thanks
@alanjust
@alanjust 7 ай бұрын
Great review Jack! I think you’ve captured the essence of its fifties rawness!
@JurgenStrauss-ow2ge
@JurgenStrauss-ow2ge 5 ай бұрын
There were some really fast Volvos after this one ; 164E ; 244 Turbo ; 850 R ; ... all very quick for their time !
@mrspandel5737
@mrspandel5737 7 ай бұрын
I seem to recall that the later RWD Volvos were still competent handlers though, they kept the same basic Suspension design as the Amazon (which in itself is quite similar to classic Alfas, much like the Amazon bodyshape which is pretty much an exact copy of the 1900 Berlina with a Chrysler front grille) well into the 90s, though by that point it was highly outdated. I think some of that livelyness was lost when Volvos started to grow in size and weight, but 140s and 240s are still very popular choices for rallying even today. And lest not forget that the 240 Turbo won the European Touring car championship back in 1985 I think
@Suprahampton
@Suprahampton 7 ай бұрын
Rare to see a 123GT that hasn't been turned into a rally car
@cezarymarek4556
@cezarymarek4556 5 ай бұрын
Had a white 123GT in mid 80s. Good fun. Drove it from Notting Hill to Antibes and back. Fast by hairy...
@JohnIreland-n6o
@JohnIreland-n6o 7 ай бұрын
Great car, great video. Haven't seen you have as much fun in a car in a while. More old cars please.
@dufushead
@dufushead 7 ай бұрын
Great video Jack, your a man after my own heart with the SU's. Just one point though about Volvo's not being exciting to drive after this; now I'm guessing you've never driven a 240 Estate with roof rack, camping gear for two weeks and the rest of the luggage, four kids and a big missus down the M5 at night at over 100mph, now that's real scary esp when you get to the curvy bits.
@ericdunn555
@ericdunn555 7 ай бұрын
Crikey 😯😯 Blasting past Weston-super-Mare in a 245 at over 100mph on the M5 - WOW! I'd have to go back home to Birmingham for a rapid underpants change if I did that 🤣🤣🤣
@kanton2485
@kanton2485 7 ай бұрын
Great video, showing that you can have a lot of fun driving a "normal"car. But of course it is nice as well to have videos of cars that not many can afford.
@bobphillips2188
@bobphillips2188 7 ай бұрын
Like Tacko14 below, I love these older cars that need actual driving to get the best without, as you too, Jack, said, suddenly finding yourself at stupid speeds. I had a 144 2 l with fuel injection (B20 engine, an enlarged 1.8 lump, almost everything else the same as the B18), 17 years old when I got it for almost nothing. The bodywork was as rough as, but the chassis and suspension and engine were almost perfect. 133 claimed horses, it went like a stabbed rat (although the weight of Volvos was creeping up, with side impact bars and other safety stuff, as you alluded to, but the underpinnings were much as the 120). It was the first car I ever had that I would just take out for a drive, I loved it so much (although the best mpg was never above 27, 17 in town). Leather seats, very comfy, and the overdrive made motorways a pleasure too - want to overtake something, flip the overdrive off with your foot to the floor already, and it really shifted! Mine had a pleasing induction roar, which amused me pulling away at the lights as most people assumed Volvos were slovenly, stodgy cars for stodgy, unimaginative drivers. Ha Ha! The engine had 170+K miles when I got it, and the speedo and mileometer failed soon after. I ran it for four years like that, just using the rev counter (the speedo would work up to about 40 mph for a while then drop to nothing - friction/heat somewhere? - hence it went through the MOT just fine!). The injection needed constant fettling, and hoses sprang leaks onto the exhaust manifold for a pass time, but everything could be fixed easily. A 2,000 mile round trip to Spain from Normandy was a dream, mending something under the bonnet every evening after pitching the tent and sorting out our baby son, making food etc. Brilliant. I never got tired of the driving, but the fettling became a bit much, always sad I let that car go. Best car I ever had.
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