#10MinuteTalk

Is there a new Vortex® wildcat cartridge in town, or an old one gone the way of so many of its wildcat siblings? Scott Parks joins Jimmy Hamilton and Mark Boardman to chat about the “6mm Vortex” - a 6mm cartridge he developed after countless hours of reloading and bullet-sending range time, trying unsuccessfully to get the performance he wanted from existing options.
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[@Kinsmyname]

I'd love to see an episode on the .222, I was handed down a beautiful Sako L461 by my father who owned it from new. I would enjoy hearing a little on the cartridges history and fruition. Cheers guys, love from Australia.

[@victoreem2]

This please

[@infantilepillock1687]

Been begging in the comments for over a year now.

[@Kinsmyname]

@@infantilepillock1687 rough, hopefully we get enough traction to make it happen.

[@seeratlasdtyria4584]

I have two Sako rifles which have collectively lead me to the conclusion that Sako is one of the top 'premier' rifle companies in the world. Both of mine, however, are .375 H&H Magnums ;)

[@erlendsther8360]

I would like to see a 375 raptor episode! It seems to give the 308 case with its shor length some new heavy hitting capabilities with a littet bit more modest velocity and recoil, compared to the classical 375 cartridges. The cartridge also have som interesting subsonic capabilities.

[@sgt2025]

May I make a recommendation for a 10 minute talk? I would love to see the 300 Norma Magnum. Given it's adoption by the military, some history on the round would be amazing. Thank you

[@wideopenyamaha]

Would like to see 6gt 10 minutes if you haven't already.

[@colewk1989]

It’d be cool if y’all did a podcast over all the 25 caliber wildcats using heavy’s.

[@davidandre886]

Get ready for the quarter bore revolution

[@eggbert191]

I believe they touched on it a bit in the 25-06 talk

[@hutchinsoncaraudio9234]

Pretty cool! I would still love to see a podcast about Big bore cartridges and rifles!

[@seeratlasdtyria4584]

have NEVER had a problem shooting my old 6mm Remington sub moa in the 60 odd years I've owned it. From the day My dad bought it for me, it would outshoot my Bro's .243 Win. but when I took some advice from an Apple exec physics guru on matching the reloaded (4831) rounds to the chamber of my specific gun, 1 hole "mickey mouse" 3 round groups started becoming the norm instead of the exception. Frankly, I never understood why the cartridge has pretty much been relegated to history, except for the firearm industry's proclivity for constant hyping of the 'latest and greatest' so as to 'pump' the market. :(

[@seeratlasdtyria4584]

@Jeremy Chapman er, uh, I seem to remember Remington changed the twist shortly after the .243 came out:) Mine has that change. As for 'accuracy' and 'improve', well 1 hole "mickey mouse" 3 shot groups (think of the hat) work just fine for me. Further, the fact remains that handloaded 6mm rounds simply outperform the .243 across the board. Lastly, as for the 'Latest and Greatest, Must Have, King of calibers', now riding the 'mfg HYPE Train', the 6.5 Creedmore, well, I and perhaps a million others still fire the 120 year plus old, sniper accurate 6.5 Swede Mauser:), which has proven to be a "pretty good cartridge" LOL. One of mine even (no kidding:) has the '666' serial number:). Hey, its getting late...don't miss your 'train'.....:) the 6.8's are coming....

[@jaydunbar7538]

@@seeratlasdtyria4584 the change in twist caused them a ton of problems, people would purchase ammunition for the faster twist and shoot it in a slower twist rifle and freak out about the poor accuracy and blame the manufacturers. The average person still doesn’t understand the relationship between bullet length and twist rate, and we have all the information of the world at our fingertips.

[@Oldhogleg]

LAPUA 6.5x47 also predates the 6.5 CM. interesting development results on the 6 Vor though. Decades ago when I started handloading, I quickly realized that the most efficient powder for a given case capacity is where two lines intersected; max chamber pressure capacity and max case capacity. If the powder burn rate is a little too fast, it'll reach max chamber pressure before reaching max powder capacity; giving you velocities below max potential. If the powder burn rate is a little too slow, you'll reach max case capacity before reaching max chamber pressure; again giving you velocities below max potential. But if you match the powder burn rate perfectly where you reach max chamber pressure at max case volume capacity, then you have a perfectly balanced load; and it's the balanced loads that have the greatest potential for accuracy due to it's efficiency.

[@Oldhogleg]

@@Chester_Oliver Perfect balanced in efficiency.

[@ThrowingItAway]

I'd still like to hear about the 6.5 BC development

[@gebogen4409]

Scott has been a great guest every time you’ve had him on. Any way, could you guys find someone that is a high end air rifle guru? Someone who is shooting .25 or .30 cal slugs out of something like an Impact FX M3? (Made in Sweden to my understanding)

[@uMalice]

243 AI with fast twist barrel in an encore is near perfection and perhaps the most affordable way to get started wildcatting.

[@CarbonPrecisionLLC]

Get George gardener to drop by and talk about the GT or Tom from Vapor Trail Valley

[@lucasvaughn629]

Please do the 22 hornet its a facinating little cartrage

[@jasonforester4572]

Can you please do an episode on the 9.3X62 caliber? So underrated in North America. Thank you. 😎👍

[@laserdude3064]

Do a 6.5x47/6x47 video! Lapua made the 6.5x47 to answer mag length issues with the 260rem. Every one I know of is a shooter. Most shoot 123-130s but 136-140s shoot too! People started necking it down to 6mm and then peterson made brass for a while. I have zero experience with the 6x47

[@misterlewgee8874]

I like Scott's thinking ..improve rifle n ammo as much as possible...and..'cartridge node' is interesting concept...

[@johngeisel901]

Need to do a cartridge talk on the 280 Ross, the very first “magnum” cartridge

[@Therionx]

Is there a 10 min talk episode about the history of the Scout rifle ?

[@jakewhite4321]

Before I wildcat the 35 Stomp, I need to know if someone has already necked down .45-70 brass to .357 for a lever gun.

[@toddboyer9691]

.35 Rem? I would really love to hear your opinions on this cartridge and learn more about it. I inherited a Rem model 14 from my great grandfather some years ago in the cartridge and want to put it to use in the Maryland deer woods.

[@jimmysuemnicht1036]

Any interest in doing a 10 minute talk on the Gibbs cartridges that Ryan would mention every now any again. As my father has multiple Gibbs calibers, it’s amazing how close they are to weatherby calibers. Would love to see it talked about.

[@brydengudbranson2728]

Do a 10 minute talk on the 300 Savage, a sharp shouldered .30 cal

[@vanillaplanifolia2525]

I just realized you guys don't have an episode on 303 British, which is frankly criminal

[@sha6mm]

Sounds like a bedding problem ? If it’s has a flyer. Me I love the 6mm Rem and have shot a couple groups of 7/8 inch at 300 yards which is not bad in a hunting rifle Remington 700 BDL.. I like the faster speed in the 6mm Rem

[@Blood2BrokenHeart]

Wildcatting is somethimg I'm glad OTHER people are doing! Ty Scott

[@csmith1]

How does the barrel life and recoil compare to the 6.5 creedmoor?

[@austinbraune6457]

284 Winchester, Ron Spomer loves it, Australians use it in long range shooting competitions, its been wild cat-ed to 6 and 6.5, .... And Weatherby based its RPM cartrages off it. But what happened to the old OG .284? "The Cartrage That Missed the Draft Pick." Could it have been a hit if was given a chance, or was it doomed from the start? It's about half way between a 7mm 06 and a 7mm Remington magnum.

[@redge27t]

Can you guys pretty please do an 8.6 blackout video!? And also a 10mm one too?? Pretty please with cherry’s on top!!

[@InfamousTactical]

Let’s finally hear about the 7mm Rem Mag. Please with the plethora of modern projectiles. I’m getting 2925 out of the 184g F opens. Great past a mile and with 20-30% less recoil than the 30 cal magnums

[@seeratlasdtyria4584]

Well noted, If I could only have had ONE centerfire rifle in my life, it would be my Browning lever actioned 7mm Rem Mag, PERIOD!!! :)

[@Seelos333]

+ Very interesting 👍🏻

[@loral82]

I vote for a 218 bee episode

[@TimMayville]

Or how close a 4.45x39 - 4.45mm bullet is to .221, .223 etc..👍.. Like, what bullet sizing from .224 do they think you can press down to get into the 4.45mm sizings..

[@kadencollins5303]

Could u do a video on the Sherman cartridges

[@ChitFromChinola]

Hey, can you guys do a 10-minute talk on an old cartridge - the 25-35 Winchester?

[@garygallard4729]

Hey guys another great listen I have a quick question and at the risk of seeming ignorant why is .308 inch not equal to 7.62 mm is it that we are measuring it at a different point if in metric? I’ve noticed it’s the same with a lot of cartridges 🤔

[@ME_white5419]

7.62 is the land diameter in barrel

[@misterlewgee8874]

Id be interestdx in a long necked 6mm , like 6mm rem and 6mm ai....as , if, long neck increases barrel life...plus...also , perhaps creates ability to seat longer projects ..but...im just interested in light, fast peojectiles for varminting and flat trajectory advantage...i like a very long tight point blank range....

[@benjamintompkins9135]

8.6 Blackout

[@reloadingfun]

I would love to see some more wildcat cartridges. 20 vartarg maybe?

[@VortexNation]

We can try and make that happen! Thanks for tuning in!

[@BLINDDOGG357]

49+/- grains of 4350 = The .243 Parks magnum ? Has a nice ring to it?

[@dougkahler7152]

Some times a load that won’t shoot worth a darn at 100 will really go to work past 200 to 400 yards and be the most accurate load you’ve seen.

[@DAVETHEHUNTER1]

Do one on lazzeroni cartridges

[@ffbrn]

Is there a trend towards Wildcat cartridges? What about a 8.6 BLK episode?

[@austinbraune6457]

Set aside the Cartrages, what about bullets? Nosler Partition, Nosler Acubond, Barns TSX, Federal Terminal Ascent, There's some realy good bullets,..... and some realy cruddy ones. A good bullet can take a humble cartrage and make it great! But poor bullet, can give a great Cartrage a bad name.

[@TimMayville]

🤔 Ask: Can you ream out an AR10 style barrel that's in 450 Marlin to something like 458 Alpine (458 WSM)...? Been on the ropes wanting to tackle a 458WSM but, would be nice to know. The 300WSM bolt shares the 450 Marlin facing and works - just assuming the 458WSM would be fun..

[@fivex4756]

So something similar to the 45-70 Auto ?

[@newerest1]

Probably possible, but probably not reliable with the full power loads

[@ewetho]

Not all Ackley use the same neck shoulder junction. The 30-30 is one the shoulder moves way forward but that is because they have a rim! So rimless you be purty correct. Also I think the 224 Valkyrie suffers the same problem maybe just worse. In between powder nodes…

[@jetthreat5000]

I hated my 6x47. It was never consistent from one day to another. Ditched it and went to the 6Dasher

[@reloadingfun]

Finicky? Holey crap lol! I've never seen a 6.5x47 Lapua be finicky. I personally know a few people that had great success with 6.5x47L. It has been super easy to load for. I'm wondering if his issues he had were more of a load development issue. Being inconsistent from day to day is definitely a symptom of being in the wrong node. I would venture a guess that he had more going on than just case capacity.

[@jmgates09]

Come on guys go ahead and do 6.5 Prc aka KING

[@JVR-gd7zw]

22 creedmoor

[@Brayden11877]

8mm mauser train still chuggin

[@wrarface]

375 Raptor

[@belphegor8072]

17 remington and 17 Fireball plz

[@waynemayle865]

There not smart enough to know what those are look at there crap on the 220 swift they have never heard of most of the calibers they talk about let's through them a curve try 225 winchester

[@mohamedayob9246]

Do 6mm BR

[@texrifleman]

I like your podcast, but 3 plus minutes in and not even talking about what the cartage is.

[@John_Redcorn_]

So this guy made an entire new round rather than just trying a different powder? 🤦‍♂️