What Hillary Clinton really thinks

Hillary Clinton’s theory of politics is unfashionable, but she doesn’t care.
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On page 239 of What Happened, Hillary Clinton reveals that she almost ran a very different campaign in 2016. Before announcing for president, she read Peter Barnes’s book With Liberty and Dividends for All, and became fascinated by the idea of using revenue from shared natural resources, like fossil fuel extraction and public airwaves, alongside revenue from taxing public harms, like carbon emissions and risky financial practices, to give every American “a modest basic income.”
Her ambitions for this idea were expansive, touching on not just the country’s economic ills but its political and spiritual ones. “Besides cash in people’s pockets,” she writes, “it would be also be a way of making every American feel more connected to our country and to each other.”
This is the kind of transformative vision that Clinton was often criticized for not having. It’s an idea bigger than a wall, perhaps bigger even than single-payer health care or free college. But she couldn’t make the numbers work. Every version of the plan she tried either raised taxes too high or slashed essential programs. So she scrapped it. “That was the responsible decision,” she writes. But after the 2016 election, Clinton is no longer sure that “responsible” is the right litmus test for campaign rhetoric. “I wonder now whether we should’ve thrown caution to the wind, embraced [it] as a long-term goal and figured out the details later,” she writes.
What Happened has been sold as Clinton’s apologia for her 2016 campaign, and it is that. But it’s more remarkable for Clinton’s extended defense of a political style that has become unfashionable in both the Republican and Democratic parties. Clinton is not a radical or a revolutionary, a disruptor or a socialist, and she’s proud of that fact. She’s a pragmatist who believes in working within the system, in promising roughly what you believe you can deliver, in saying how you’ll pay for your plans. She is frustrated by a polity that doesn’t share her “thrill” over incremental policies that help real people or her skepticism of sweeping plans that will never come to fruition. She believes in politics the way it is actually practiced, and she holds to that belief at a moment when it’s never been less popular.
This makes Clinton a more unusual figure than she gets credit for being: Not only does she refuse to paint an inspiring vision of a political process rid of corruption, partisanship, and rancor, but she’s also actively dismissive of those promises and the politicians who make them.
On Tuesday morning, I sat down with Clinton for an hour on the first official day of her book tour. It is a cliché that stiff candidates become freer, easier, and more confident after they lose - see Gore, Al - but it is true for Clinton. Jon Stewart used to talk of the “buffering” you could see happening in the milliseconds between when Clinton was asked a question and when she answered; the moments when she played out the angles, envisioned the ways her words could be twisted, and came up with a response devoid of danger but suffused with caution. That buffering is gone.
In our conversation, she was as quick and confident as I’ve seen her, making the case for her politics without worrying too much about the coalitional angles or the possible lines of offense. And she says plenty that can, and will, offend. In our discussion, she lit into Bernie Sanders’s single-payer plan, warned that Donald Trump is dragging us down an authoritarian path, spoke openly of the role racism and white resentment played in the campaign, and argued that the outcome of the 2016 election represented a failure of the media above all. This was Clinton unleashed, and while she talked about what happened, it was much more interesting when she talked about what she believed should have happened.
- Ezra Klein
Editor-in-chief, Vox
This interview was recorded on September 12, 2017.
Thumbnail image by Kainaz Amaria.
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[@waxilliamladrian]

Literally 40 seconds in, she starts talking about Andrew Yang's central platform of UBI based on Alaska's model and I'm genuinely shocked that I've never seen this interview

[@waxilliamladrian]

Should clarify that she isn't talking about a data check or automation, just specifically the idea of implementing that kind of UBI.

[@90Outside]

She’s talking about a 2000 yearly check from the government that isn’t the same as universal basic income.

[@ugp301]

goes to show how bad the policy is

[@Chris-wq3pe]

@@90Outside yep it's absolutely nothing like a UBI in either a monetary or social sense. It's just an annual handout. A UBI could end welfare, it could raise standards of living in a permanent fashion, it could helpt o liftt people out of poverty. one off handouts do nothing.

[@garrettgrant1264]

@@Chris-wq3pe "an annual handout" ... why is this a handout but a monthly check isn't? lol

[@somebody2619]

I admire that VOX didn't turn off their comment section despite knowing what a cesspool it will become.

[@holatio4028]

+franklin nguyen they dont do that, and they should be praised for it

[@sudevsen]

some body cause these videos exist to generate controversy and drive traffic It's op-ed clickbait.

[@AndreiTache]

+Sudev Sen But comments don't drive traffic...

[@rz1974]

they do actually, youtube values any interaction with videos, even dislikes

[@1224chrisng]

ratings i don't think so but comments definitely

[@PinkSummer1017]

I wonder how many democrats knew this about her support of UBI. I wonder how many democrats knew Obama was supportive and proposing UBI too.

[@a7ukgc8x9m4h]

If you dont know, google andrew yang

[@Mrjonnyjonjon123]

Proposing is one thing, Being Vocal about and actually having a plan (and actually doing it) is another thing. Obama being supportive does nothing without action

[@josegabrielsilva5221]

Yes, you can hate her. But you can't say she's is not smart, well-articulated and prepared.

[@Infamous41]

Lol

[@universeturtle]

Unless it's a concession speech lol

[@Infamous41]

So was Ted Bundy

[@OlderG0ds]

Wasn't prepared for the election

[@Angeli28]

SHE'S A ROBOT

[@andresmercadocanales1003]

There are people who hate her and people who love her, but anyone who doesn't see how smart this woman is doesn't have a good grasp on reality

[@akrenwinkle]

Aside from Goldman Sachs, Northrup Grumman, General Electric, etc., who loves her?

[@newbootgoofin24]

She lost to a reality show host with literally zero experience and credibility who spouted off the most blatantly racist comments imaginable. She’s not THAT smart.

[@SJTowne]

@@newbootgoofin24 She won 3 million more votes than Trump, and the most votes of ANY candidate in ANY election since the beginning of the nation. The Electoral College is the ONLY reason she wasn't inaugurated in 2017.

[@CherCherico]

You don't have any grass of reality ... she is a liar.

[@stein6707]

@@newbootgoofin24 that just means that a large part of the American voter base isn't THAT smart

[@dashawnduncan1121]

Coming back to this in 2020 for comfort. Oh what could’ve been 😪....

[@JaKommenterar]

Don’t worry so much, regards from 2021

[@organizedchaos4559]

I think if she was actually sincere on these ideas and actually got them implemented then it could have been an interesting and good country to live in. Too bad we are stuck with Trump and Biden now.

[@user-jg5eu7uj4k]

Wait theres actual people who think that she would of been good? What?

[@robot-he6nq]

@@organizedchaos4559 Joe Biden isn’t that bad.

[@vitothepizzaguy7475]

It would have been heaven

[@sana_fanboi]

I’m not interested in politics, not American. I just clicked because she looked like she would say interesting stuff

[@ahmedob.17]

True!

[@amylovemyart]

The lighting is so on point.

[@123Queful]

and she looks like crap i didnt know she looked that bad

[@Jkstolz]

Huh What It HAS to be. She won't talk unless it's on point and she gets to choose the questions.

[@chocosmoke0208]

rofl ty u 2 great comment

[@williamjoyce4313]

I would have preferred if they had kept her light turned off.

[@bigassdude7856]

Even tho shes very offpoint

[@johnkevindayao3893]

25:00 the passion she had when she talked about children's health insurance program, that's the passion I think would've helped her more if she's showed that during the debates

[@justing307]

Umm. You probably one of those people who would want her to be home cooking cookies when she was a First Lady.

[@blueatillipops2634]

I guess that's the passion she also had when authorising the Iraq war leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children

[@davidjones3165]

She's gotta keep her victims healthy.

[@phongpham1058]

@@blueatillipops2634 Trump is no better on foreign policy

[@telanos2492]

One year after the fact, and its amazing how much visceral hatred for Hillary still remains, and the extent to which it colours popular perception. She's written a book exploring "what happened", which, no matter how you slice it, will mean looking at the reasons why she lost. Being able to reflect on that experience, mistakes and all - and learn from it is pretty important for anyone to be able to do. You won't get far in life if you can't do this. But slather this with kneejerk hatred and it suddenly becomes entirely a blame game! I mean, it takes a deep plunge into the the pit of 'alternative facts' to be able to watch this interview and come away with the conclusion that Hillary is simply doling out blame. And yet, here we are. I say this as an international observer - someone who hasn't been caught up with the hyper-partisanship and tribalism that is clearly afflicting many Americans - you guys need to take a step back and have a good look at yourselves and what you're becoming. What you've already become. When you can't tell fact from fiction at the most basic levels - when your prejudices are affecting your judgement to this extent, something has gone seriously wrong. And as alarming as this is - and it should be alarming to just about everyone - it appears like a huge segment of both media and laypeople (as evidenced in the comment section here) alike are clearly more interested in indulging in their hatred and self satisfied criticism, than giving any thought to the content of the discussion.

[@cup_check_official]

oh boi, the comment section is gonna be crazy. Look at that like/dislike ratio. We have a betting session going on here. All spectators come here

[@pollymahone9392]

Tell Me This yup and it's only been 2 minutes

[@dogukancakmakci9419]

Tell Me This there isn't enough popcorn in the world for the spectacle in this comment section

[@Brandon-es8nu]

Believe me It's going to be YUUGE

[@Euronjuusto999]

They just dislike when they saw her name

[@cup_check_official]

223 likes 214 dislikes. If my videos had this ratio i would be having a heart attack lol

[@alexg-m6e]

I always like hearing Hillary Clinton speaking about policy. Unfortunately, she didn't do it enough in 2016. She was more focused on talking about Donald Trump. That was disappointing to me because I think she had some good policy ideas. Also, I don't like it when she tries to blame Bernie Sanders for her defeat. I know the primary was very frustrating for her, Bernie was a tough opponent and wasn't always nice to her. But she needs to take responsibility too. As soon as he lost the Democratic primary, Bernie Sanders fully supported Hillary Clinton and campaigned for her until the last day, so he did his job.

[@tommyodonovan3883]

Hillary lost because she was disliked more than Trump.

[@Colgruv]

@@tommyodonovan3883 Hillary was never once "more disliked" than Trump, unless you're referring to the following demographics: - Among white people - Among men - Among Republicans

[@ManuelCruz-tn4do]

@@tommyodonovan3883 She won the popular vote tho! Donald Trump was more "disliked" than Hillary Clinton. Its just that young people in flip states did not want to wait 4+ hours in lines to vote since they felt Clinton would have this thing in the bag.

[@organizedchaos4559]

@@tommyodonovan3883 she was disliked but not more disliked than Trump. She didn’t have the strong inspirational vision that some other politician have. She is an interesting politician but too bad we never gave her the chance to implement her ideas.

[@davidjones3165]

That's her M.O. blame everyone but her.

[@leberetframboise1689]

"I came close, you know, I won the popular vote" You're damn right, Hillary!

[@juliebarrows8149]

Ugh! Too close for comfort! We dodged a bullet here!

[@leberetframboise1689]

@@juliebarrows8149 make your own comment, please

[@newbootgoofin24]

Then why accept the results? It’s not a democracy if you win the most votes and lose. Democrats should end the Electoral College once and for all. But they don’t. Why not???

[@Haaaaaaaaarper]

She won by almost 3 million votes and still didnt became president? Sounds like a broken country to me...

[@coleoshtamebaghe3606]

I agree! I love how everything has doubled in price, inner city crime puts some warzones to shame, and the economy has tanked. It really makes me think about how awful it was under Trump.@@juliebarrows8149

[@noahjenkins5008]

Fun Fact: No one has finished this video yet

[@jonasuj]

That fact was absolutely hilarious.

[@samthenerd9619]

wow its true, lol and look at all the hate

[@Hazzard0]

I came for the comments!

[@halfevilwelding5268]

NjCurly66 I'm almost done

[@thelocalcommie916]

NjCurly66 I just went to the comment section then left :)

[@HaroldTheWizardCat]

Came for the like/dislike ratio, stayed for the comments...

[@shredderly]

^

[@benshums]

^

[@sargemooseriders6338]

@seb sports me too! hahahaha

[@jeremychase7416]

strawberri7 Yeah, people have a very strong dislike towards corrupt, lying sociopaths.

[@tombradysmybiitch2406]

She's a criminal

[@frenchiehorn4339]

I'm honestly astounded by the like/dislike ratio.

[@ManuelCruz-tn4do]

Trump supporters just hate her because she competed against him. They're like a cult in case you haven't noticed. He is never the problem (despite being one of the most powerful men in the world).

[@user-jg5eu7uj4k]

@@ManuelCruz-tn4do or it's because shes a well known criminal...

[@ManuelCruz-tn4do]

@@user-jg5eu7uj4k bruh they're all criminals. Seriously how is Trump not a criminal? He's been the cause of so many hate crimes, so many deaths, and stolen hundreds of millions of dollars from the government. And that wasn't what I said. I never said didn't have a shady history, what I said was that the majority of Trump supporters are like a cult. Which they are, can you deny that?

[@user-jg5eu7uj4k]

@@ManuelCruz-tn4do and I wouldn't even vote Republican, I'm libertarian

[@kelvinlim2550]

As a non-American, this was one of the most enlightening and thoughtful conversations I have heard from Hillary. Juxtaposing the flurry of negative comments, one could understand why it was such an uphill battle for her in the 2016 election. It almost seems as if nuanced and pragmatic deliberation of policy development and execution never stood the chance of trumping catchy soundbites. Americans, you really got what you deserved. And that is why America would never be great again.

[@Birrrrra]

Kelvin Lim this is propaganda and you fell for it.

[@limehouseblues]

imagine thinking any politician could fix this country. and imagine caring what this ghoul thinks.

[@CCSABCD]

Just came to see the like/dislike ratio.

[@donlyemanuel]

Cristian Campos 2k more likes.

[@khinlop]

lol same! I expected worse

[@DonaldSturgeAnthonyMcKenzieII]

Cristian Campos You know that's manipulated by Google, yes?

[@shredderly]

And stayed for the comments, amirite?

[@PremierCCGuyMMXVI]

Cristian Campos People make stupid reasons to make Clinton look bad! Especially Trump supporters! Clinton is good! We just need to get Trump out of offices he's a crazy person!

[@Swampster123]

she felt a lot more genuine in this interview then she did during the campaign

[@JessicaHuangTheQuetzalKirin]

her voice is really relaxing.

[@noahjenkins5008]

Never Trust Edited Comments

[@Regimeshifts]

NjCurly66 Why??

[@fokkohindriks8878]

NjCurly66 point taken.

[@Brandon33akahk]

Lmao

[@IchiRoe]

So does that imply that we aren't to trust this comment, doesn't that mean that we should trust edited comments? Or does that mean that we are both supposed to trust and have distrust over everything that's edited? Because that can certainly be taken in many different ways. Also I decided to edit this because ya know why not?

[@jamesburgess2k]

Shiroe I would've totally agreed with your points, if you didn't edit your comment.

[@kristantonugraha7367]

I'm a simple man. I see 51 minutes, go directly to comments.

[@KishorTwist]

Use YT's fast-forward options to cut video time while not sacrificing comprehension! Super-useful! ☻

[@pretty948]

I didn't know this was 51 minutes long. Thanks for telling me. I'll be on my way out

[@hannahmae9251]

These fine people conducted a wonderful interview.

[@YouSillyClown]

god... just listening to how coherent she sounds compared to the demented thing that's in the white house rn

[@emil-pd5pq]

nooo don drumfo so mean!!!!!!!!!

[@davestuddaman8127]

I present to you, Brandon

[@MorbidGod391]

This was really interesting 🧐 to listen to.

[@stevehardie8109]

Shes smart, smarter than dump

[@Enzo-ho9uf]

one thing you have to love about this is Ezra's passion about politics

[@dukeluoji]

Can we get Bernie on here? Edit: I understand that Bernie Sanders was on 1-2 years ago, however so was Hillary Clinton. I'd also like to know what Bernie is thinking currently.

[@ivorstirling4263]

Tanomura no, he's already fossilised

[@ida6950]

Tanomura Yes, please. I'd love that.

[@evanoc]

Zacy002 The most popular politican in the country is a fossil? The most disliked president in history at less than a year in isn't?

[@jamesphelps3409]

Tanomura and oboma

[@ivorstirling4263]

Evan C. Sorry i got Bernie Sanders and the dinosaurs mixed up sorry pal

[@njujuwd3495]

So, yeah, whatever your opinion about her is, I'm certain that she'd have been the far better alternative.

[@chiar0scur0]

I didn't like her as a candidate, and I know she hated being a candidate as well, but when she finally gets to speak candidly about policy, it's just so obvious that she knows what she's talking about, and really has the ability to function in the political system. It's shocking, really, to see a professional politician with such a nuanced and deep understanding of how politics happens, and what the dangers to it are.

[@deniseigneo5732]

I still don't understand why americans chose trump over Her 💔

[@Evan-iq8hd]

'We don't control the media environment..' - Hillary Clinton 2017

[@MrDJGri]

can't stop laughing

[@fighter0056]

@@MrDJGriwhy She doesn’t and there is no evidence for it Fox news tries to make it seems like it but in the end the “Main Stream Media“ is just as Right wing as Fox News They just seems more serious

[@user-vj4wx3qp5b]

*The United States owes the honorable Lady a well-deserved apology.*

[@juliecoburn6639]

Why didn't they do this interview during the 2016 election? This is one of the best explanations and discussions I have seen. She is matter of frank and doesn't seem fake here.

[@PhillyNonSequitur]

She's a detail oriented pragmatist, a realist, in a short attention span world of carnival barkers.

[@trenthansen9498]

Can you just tell her character from this? She comes across as a sincere, good person.

[@mrtomh]

Another reminder of the sad fact that instead of this amazingly intelligent, thoughtful, articulate, experienced, and even tempered woman, we got that other guy, who has nothing but an ego.

[@Infamous41]

Lol

[@josearmandogomezrocabado537]

I am not American nor live in the United States, can someone explain me the hate for this woman? She looks like a professional politician

[@DOCTORKHANblog]

You must live in a shitty country then.

[@josearmandogomezrocabado537]

O wow... I wasn't expecting racism on a simple question at a vox video but I guess president Drumpf really represents USA then...

[@josearmandogomezrocabado537]

FAYMprod thanks for the info about Honduras, I am currently researching that bu the way...

[@AsharHanniel]

Most people's hatred for her is completely irrational. They believe they know details about her that are not FACTUAL and that are based on lies and claims from individuals from other political affiliations.

[@TheEyeball37]

I'm America and I can understand why people are underwhelmed by her. She also is not at all a natural politician, meaning she has no charisma, doesn't excite people, and doesn't sell or fight for her ideas. On the other hand, the Republican party has been attacking her for almost 30 years, she's a (seemingly) unfriendly, cold, aloof and ambitious woman (a deadly combination for a woman even though a lot of people don't realize their own sexism), and she is a corporatist (which America is so done with by now).

[@papercutsofanintrovertthey9003]

Miss Clinton, you've always inspired me, I admire and look up to you. I learned a lot from viewing your interview, I also learned two new words from you; Coalesce and Compunction - thank you, God bless you and your family and your future endeavors. Inspired, Christian Kalos

[@stevehardie8109]

Its good Biden was elected, she would be better

[@tristanmoller9498]

Ezra Klein so nicely dressed and neatly cut. The interview is calm and fluent, which makes it relaxing to listen to

[@maddyline5797]

What an excellent interview. Truly. The interviewer asked such interesting questions, it was such a fresh take. This was not at all how I expected to spend my evening.

[@wackywong]

Say what you want about her, she's verbally eloquent and can hold a line of thought. That's much more I can say about Trump.

[@daddydiesel7177]

Being “verbally eloquent” doesn’t make you a good president

[@srisuartini5329]

@@daddydiesel7177 so being verbally inept is?

[@guppy8073]

With all the craziness of the last election, I listened to barely any of Clinton's speeches but many of Trump's. Hearing her for the first time is so enlightening. I wish her eloquence and pragmatism was imposed onto Trump during the election, but there's not much we can do about that now.

[@nicholasbarnes8283]

Brilliant... and amazing interview... totally non partisan and the true Hillary Clinton... supported her then... Support her in the future...

[@wt1272]

Respect this lady

[@Lol-rt3mo]

Nah

[@kgomotsosekonya9435]

Speaking as someone from outside of America I honestly can't work out why this woman inspires so much hatred. She's obviously made some mistakes but a lot of people make her sound like some demonic mixture of Hitler, Voldemort and several Batman Villains...

[@anitaa.6074]

Kgomotso Sekonya I'm not sure either. I think hate is easier than understanding.

[@rojavabashur6455]

Because she is a multi millionaire in the pockets of the corporate and political elite.

[@benshums]

Hi Kgomotso Sekonya, Anita A., and TheBobBrom, watch this video and you'll see why people don't like her. It's only 12 minutes long. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqrGaX99hNKqjdU

[@aronwilling]

I used to wonder why Christopher Hitchens (RIP) was so harsh and revolted by the Clintons. The Primaries fleshed out and consolidated the issues he touched upon. An FBI investigation into her management of State Dept correspondence was, in the end, unsurprising. This Whinge tour is, unsurprising

[@benshums]

The video is a little dated, but he explains the situation.

[@AndreTheAstronaut]

nobody in the comments watched the video, i guarantee it

[@paulalancaster1]

Great interview! Good job Ezra. I'm betting 95% of the dislikes didn't watch the whole thing, or didn't pay attention if they did.

[@nathanli3024]

Wow now I wish I voted for Hillary Clinton, she wasn't as bad as I thought.

[@jasonphilly]

Homeboy needs some Chapstick

[@musically_insane]

Been watching this interview and what I feel is that she was not the right candidate for this political era. She has her merits and in some other time would have been an excellent President, but the people of today needed a different voice and that voice wasn't hers, it was Bernie's. There is art in knowing when is your time to shine. Even if she tried to ape what Bernie was, she would've come across as inauthentic and contrived. She did make some major mistakes though. She shouldn't have taken money from super PACs. She should've released her speeches and should have taken responsibility for the e-mail debacle. It was just not in her destiny to be POTUS. But kudos to Ezra for such well thought out questions and discussion. This is why I'm subscribed to Vox!

[@dreathon]

Jesus christ. Bernie is done. He is over. Get over it. Stop beating a dead horse. MOVE ALONG. And shut up! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GODDDDDDDDD

[@suntzu3541]

Andrea C are you a Hillary supporter?

[@musically_insane]

andrea c funny that you say this for Bernie when Hillary is the one who needs to stop crying about the “Russians and James Comey and sexism and Bernie” and move on.

[@Rudster14]

At first it seemed like she, was blaming everyone else but then she started to take a bit more responsibility which I appreciate.

[@tammyleach3133]

I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN....MY GOD NEVER ASKS ME TO DO QUESTIONABLE THINGS....gives me free will with morals.......is that so hard to understand

[@elenaobradovic4181]

Hello everyone!

[@isabelleguerineau9300]

I think this was a fantastic interview

[@00inwiththenew00]

One of my favorite one on one post election interviews with HRC. Clear, concise and informative. If we could have had more interviews like this pre-election (and eliminated the hysterical-Republican noise swirling around her campaign) she would have won. HRC was the right candidate for the job. Hillary dedicated much of her adult life to public service, but was looked down upon for it & raked over the coals to a degree that no other candidate was subjected to. Instead, the media (& many of you) chose to chase after the Trump circus-on-wheels under the guise of wanting to "bring change to the system" or just blow the "establishment" to smithereens when in fact, ironically, many of us are pragmatists in real life. Instead of treating the election seriously, people ran after sensationalized stories that had little truths to them. Politicians should not be here to entertain us. Focus instead on public service - you know, the job they were "hired" to do. This lack in pride in one's work has seemed to permeate so many fields of work that it is now acceptable to focus on entertainment at work instead of doing the work! The people who actually care about their craft are looked at as if they are the crazy ones. Sickening. I wish I had the patience and hope that HRC has, but unfortunately I have a very low tolerance for BS.

[@FruitOfTheSpirit]

00inwiththenew00 "but unfortunately I have a very low tolerance for BS." Then how did you make it through this entire interview?

[@-mw.]

Legitimately, I'm curious, not even trolling. Where in the interview is she BSing?

[@FruitOfTheSpirit]

michael woodham On the issue of getting money out of politics... 29:41 "If Democrats unilaterally disarm and say, 'Well, you know, we're holier than Caesar's wife, and we won't say or do anything that will raise a question...' -- there is *no compunction* on the other side. And there *is such an imbalance right now* in our politics in the amount of money that's on the other side..." *Total Money Raised 2016 Presidential* Democrats: $800,059,726 Republicans: $647,632,718 *Total Money Raised 2018 House/Senate* Democrats: $235,810,173 Republicans: $180,786,709 (Source: www.opensecrets.org/overview/ ) She clearly does not care about the accuracy of anything coming out of her mouth.

[@Codiliabra]

Chris I Yo, people literally owned you in your first comment. We see you man.

[@FruitOfTheSpirit]

ZiP Literally owned me? So I'm a slave now? Damn, where do I turn in my belongings? P.S. How does one get "literally owned" on presenting straight facts? They "literally" speak for themselves, son.

[@rushofblood994]

Not all the dislikes come from Trump supporters guys, they come from rational people.

[@andyshay1385]

Alistair Drennan Yea ppl with rational ideas like marijuana legalization.

[@cach_dies]

Man, Vox must have A LOT of money to afford those speaking fees $$

[@ImranConquers]

Alejandro Ortiz Shes promoting her book, usually there is no fee for this type of interview

[@AspinceLaframboise]

It's 'made of money' Nazionst crap eh... Ü

[@Noodles1771]

Clinton is totally willing to wave her fees as long as it's a puff piece about her.

[@glossygloss472]

FAYMprod What’s wrong with being financially motivated?

[@FAYMprod]

HelloKittyFan 26 "You can't get rich in politics unless you're a crook." Harry S. Truman. civil servants should always choose people over profits but for the last 40ish years they don't. wall st. incentivizes corporations to globally exploit labor and the planet and our Congress and so-called progressive leaders like Clinton are complicit. Her husband tho is beyond complicit - his deregulations and pacts like NAFTA are directly responsible for growing income inequality. today the 1% control historically the most wealth they have since the Gilded Age.

[@nathanspencer1238]

I love the question at 26:28 personally I hear this all the time "All politicians are corrupt" and personally I can't agree with that sentiment. To me it shows how the years the public has become convinced (largely by an overly encouraging media, largely by the momentum of generational laziness beginning with the Baby Boomers) that it is okay to be undiligent in research. It seems most the people who say it, are just using it as an excuse to not take a serious look at political records, and when they find what seems to be contradictions in the politicians records to think about how the politician could have reasoned the two together.

[@levihoffman5897]

I don't think all are corrupt, but I do look at campaign finance. Hillary and Trump are corrupt. Bernie is not.

[@vincentgriffin3166]

She would’ve been an amazing President.

[@brianmichaels5112]

She makes so so much sense. Common sense. It’s not complicated it’s sensible talk. I love how she is just as passionate about affordable health now as she was in 93 when as First Lady she headed the Clinton health care reform. Back then by he haters said oh “ it’s a power move to show how powerful she is in the administration she doesn’t really care”. But I’m retrospect she has been advocating for some form of affordable health care since the 80’s when she was a law partner / First Lady of Arkansas. Love her

[@noparty5183]

Brilliant as always

[@cynthiavanteylingen7922]

watching this 2 years later. and thinking what would it have been like if we would have had her as the pres of usa. one thing i know for sure. it would have been much better. sigh

[@patrickflynn1013]

"Saving the economy." Too big to fail is prospering like never before.

[@ab_12_8]

this didn’t age well

[@theJaston9]

Why didn't she give interviews like this when she running? This is obviously late in the game to get a look into her contemplative process. We didn't get much insight into this during this campaign. A lot of this is probably the campaign's attempt to make interviews with journalists as infrequent as possible because that would give another opportunity to probe her email investigation. I think was a mistake. She should have early on been more emphatically apologize for her email probe missteps in a full press conference. This would make it old news, leaving journalists with a different set of issues to cover. Her problem was not Donald Trump. The problem is we heard filtered messages crafted by the campaign and were identically repeated at each rally, meaning the campaign kept trying to recycle the same old news that news outlets treated as such. And for the record she really needs to understand that, yes- people do care about immigration - in has been a hallmark of the Democratic Party's abandonment of working class citizens whom they used to be the strongest advocates. It's citizens you are elected to represent, not the non-electorate. And lastly come to sense with money in politics. Democrats raked in the corporate contributions this past election, so do they really believe in campaign finance reform- the notion of crafting a constitutional amendment to address the Citizens United issue?

[@jerrygiovengo1927]

When she said tried to break the mindset of Americans enough said..

[@MrJason005]

Say what you want about Hillary Clinton, I found this interview informative

[@dasussy4721]

13:52 the dumbest statement I've ever heard

[@Diamondsmuggler]

Alen Slavic yeah because all media outlets bashed trump and he still won

[@shobhitk87gmailcom]

Ever heard of Fox News?

[@pmfg11]

Fox News vs all the other media outlets lmao

[@tuongpham7609]

the left doesn't control their media as much as the right does xD. lol. it's legit 10 left media to 1 right media.

[@patrickkeaveney9472]

For every small thing that Clinton did she was crucified, whilst when Trump did massive things and got away with it

[@slwebb07]

This is, without a doubt, the most researched political interview I've ever seen. Ezra, your questions to Secretary Clinton were well thought out and intentional. This is the kind of interview the world should see. Though I am a strong Bernie Sanders supporter, I appreciate the issues brought to life here. Well done.

[@tOnySi]

Andrew yang is running the ubi campaign and its working

[@maxpearson9234]

F

[@tryxoso2015]

Yang's Boba who?

[@slugfeast8944]

Who?

[@tommyodonovan3883]

Thousand Dollahs Yang never got more than 5%.

[@MrZing1987]

Great interview. I love Ezra's interviewing style. He asks great questions. Hillary always gives great answers which annoys the haters...as if she cares. Thumbs up!!

[@derekg5674]

“I knew that I am someone that will not say things that aren’t true or not take responsibility” Are you kidding me? Like....really? That’s what you’re going with....

[@Colgruv]

What do you mean? Hillary is careful with her words to a fault.

[@HaiLeQuang]

There is no chance a health care program which is both "high quality" and affordable while the government is in huge pile of debt. Nobody in America understands this.

[@_noahrh]

27:45 what the heck was that

[@smakdab30]

I voted for her but I'm really tired of everything about her. Mainly because she's reemerged with this book that shows that she has no idea how to connect with the American people, she blames everyone else (Obama, Sanders, etc) for her loss, but takes no personal responsibility. She's establishment through and throughout and that's why she lost and I'm just tired of her.

[@GEOFFREYGIULIANO]

Love her.

[@irishpoacher917]

Hilary for prison 2020!

[@Infamous41]

Lol

[@secnytsecnyt2981]

Irish poacher Ah yes, because everyone you disagree with deserves to go to prison.... yes, yes, I forgot that rule.

[@OlderG0ds]

@@secnytsecnyt2981 nope just the ones who have been proven to commit serious crimes. Any other person in the government who caused top secret documents to end up on unsecured private email servers and end up on Anthony Weiners laptop would be in jail

[@brianmichaels5112]

I will never understand why people believe all the far right fairytales / horror stories that are fabricated about this amazing American. Watch her speak from the early 80’ as Arkansas First Lady to today and she is the most authentic politician of our time. Her policy views have always been consistent and her belief system has never changed. She is amazing. What a loss this country had when she was not elected in 2016. She would have been an amazing President just amazing.

[@johnsonlong57]

she's still winning by the popular vote.

[@EmperorPal]

- Clinton claims she's a central-right and central-left - Clinton just stated she's a progressive during a presidential debate against Sanders She's A Flip-Flopper!!

[@elmobennett3013]

KJ Ritua With what we ended up with how can u say that? U r either a fool or just plain stupid!

[@Mrlegitbeans]

Very interesting to see things from Hillary's point of view. Hats off to Erza Klein for conducting such an amazing interview. If you look at it from an objective view point, Hillary offers a deep insight into her thought process during the campaign.

[@Skip2MeLou1]

Really great job on the interview. It's a shame so many people are downvoting without watching just because Hillary is in it.

[@noparty5183]

Brilliant then.brilliant now..would have been a damn good president 😍

[@robertaylor9218]

Secretary Clinton, I was with you up to the point you said that you had to take responsibility because that's who you are. You have not done that (publicly) ONCE since you lost to the candidate with the lowest approval rating EVER.

[@CharlotteDobre]

Actually she did it in her book and you would know that if you read it.

[@robertaylor9218]

Please enlighten me as to where she explains where she made a mistake. You are correct that I haven't read the book, but a quote or two would go along way. What I do have to go off of is the interviews I've seen, and when hammered for her mistakes she only says that she underestimated the headwinds.

[@kenobadogomba376]

"But let's set the record straight: we always knew that the industrial Midwest was crucial to our success, just as it had been for Democrats for decades, and contrary to the popular narrative, we didn't ignore those states," she wrote.

[@robertaylor9218]

Keno Badogomba I will have to confirm what she spent in those states (since she had a roughly a billion dollars), but that statement is a defense of the campaign, not taking responsibility for personal decisions or shortcomings that caused her to lose.

[@mostar5389]

Keno Badogomba that’s not taking responsibility

[@robzilla730]

They shouldve made Hillary governor of Alaska as a consolation prize.

[@thespagent5718]

She’s so incredibly smart, not only a loss for America, but the whole world.

[@krysistheabyss]

Drinking game, take a sip every time she blames someone other than herself.

[@jeremychase7416]

Chris Garcia What are you trying to give people alcohol poisoning?

[@Dovahkiif]

Chris Garcia I'd rather not die today so no thanks

[@albertm7178]

Nah man, I am not suicidal

[@tombradysmybiitch2406]

Chris Garcia she's a criminal

[@snakepliskin23]

+Swanky Butters tough? LOL that's rich

[@bobbypendragon7375]

I had my share of doubts about Hillary during the campaign, though I did my part in voting for her. The *intense* hatred so many have for her, though, is odd.

[@bigtiggamakeveli]

HILARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT SHE'S ABSOLUTELY STUNNING! IM IN LOVE!

[@shaun1040]

I feel bad for Hillary. Like, she lost to trump... and we all know how bad trumps been doin so far...

[@musiiic3]

I think it wasn't just her political realism that was hard to sell but rather her credibility- that she would actually take a stand for (especially) the working class because her character was questioned at any given moment.

[@austinmartin1369]

As someone who cares about my political party, please for the love of goodness PLEASE stop giving this lady a platform or interviews or even showing her face anywhere.

[@mycenth22]

Still unsure of why I'm not supposed to like her...

[@TheGoodContent37]

I can't wait for the day quantum computing gets so advance that we can actually see models of how things would had gone with one candidate or the other, because no one actually knows, maybe we would be better with Hillary instead of Trump, maybe worst, but quantum computing could give us a very important idea of it.

[@tommyodonovan3883]

You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. It's not complicated.... Hilly lost because she was hated/disliked more that Trump.

[@krim7]

Great interview, Ezra. Very well executed. Please do more of these long form interviews in the future :D

[@Noodles1771]

+Susan Joy Worker Not only no hard questions - blatant distortions. Hillary wasn't even for an increase in the minimum wage never mind pretending that she was just on the cusp of advocating a universal basic income. Same thing for ditching fossil fuels, she was the largest proponent of fracking. Same thing for universal healthcare, her exact words: [People needing healthcare] can't wait for us to have a theoretical debate about some better idea that will never, ever come to pass." This interview would make Kim Jong-un jealous.

[@Noodles1771]

+Krim7 Here's an interview (or more precisely a series of them) that actually interrogates substantive questions. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omewcn6Fp7qtqNE

[@beerwig6493]

+Susan Given your awful subscription list and parroting of right-wing slurs, you could use a bit of virtue yourself.

[@Noodles1771]

Susan Calling the Democrats "left" shows you put no work into your politics. You're the last person that should be calling anyone "brainwashed."

[@Noble-Nova]

I recommend finding smaller content creators that aren't funded by shady corporations

[@digger5062]

I would love someone to explain to me in detail how Obama improved the economy.

[@Jbsutt]

Lol...11 months and not a single explaination. Very telling indeed ;)

[@John-qy1rg]

@Digger look at the SP500 from 2008-2016

[@da6034]

In fact, he did nothing. A neoliberal with a charisma. However, I would say he did get rid of some drone bombs that were in stock for years.

[@srisuartini5329]

Have you review the SP500 and GDP growth and compared it to Trump era?

[@Freshbreath100]

13:55 - "We don't control the media environment the same way the right does, its harder for our message to get out" 😂😂😂

[@Colgruv]

It's because the right doesn't let the truth get in the way of a good story. It's much easier to pin all economic uncertainty on discrete groups of 'the other' than to critically examine which of the nation's economic policies might be having an adverse effect and why.

[@suchismitagupta]

She's more than 60 probably and still so fluently speaking..... Smart

[@Nick_Chanas]

Well, at least she makes sense when she speaks.

[@quasicroissant]

+YoYO Semite Trump is capable of having ideas of his own?!!

[@TheEnsakz]

cause she is a articulate hypocrite

[@MikaMitenaLives]

Nick Chanas making sense of all her lies through doublespeak... Yepper. She was Groomed for the position from the onset of birth

[@rumba215]

Nick Chanas Only a brain dead person would think that Hillary makes sense.

[@shaggy2922]

Everyone hunker down in the bunker cause this comment section and the like-dislike ratio is about to explode

[@blueberry7899]

Articulate, intelligent and so interesting. What the hell happened America...

[@kylew.jarratt4543]

What happened is, we got it right! Except she has not been put on trial, for the many evil thing's she's done. To gain money, and power. For her, and the left wing. But mostly, her!

[@gregoryjones87]

She need to stop defending money. That’s why she lost. Americans aren’t looking for an argument, if she hasn’t found that out by now.