VRChat Video Patchnotes 2024.4.1 (Hand Tracking Additions, Bug Fixes)

[@VRChat]

A quick note: The change regarding PhysBones/Constraints execution order was reverted. While this change did improve jittering, it came at a performance cost and needs more time in the oven. The patch notes were made before this change was reverted, so it's still in the video... even though it didn't make it to live! Just a heads-up! Back in the oven, it goes.

[@srnightmare2790]

I remember when you had discussions allowed on your patch notes in steam, Still scared people will call you out on it? Your nothing but spinless greedy company who whole purpose is to suck off meta and what ever other company has privately invested into you.

[@KroniGamess]

Can you fix the quest 3 controller hand tracking. When I press the triggers down on both sides the tracking doesn't correspond and it says I'm pointing. What's going on, quest 2 dos t do this? 😐

[@Not.starlivht1]

will audio ever come to back to quest 😭

[@gabrielvasquez6639]

@VRChat can you make a fighting game called vrchat fighters 51 fighters and 52 dlc fighters Regular fighters Naddition Unity-chan Nekoneko project Hatsuresu Reesievr aka reeseskater Ungrande knuckles Sack boy 2 Ainen (Naddition's sister) Macrackle Theradicalmomo Flaresnare Magikappa Kromia Krisuna Totless Nekoputer Hoppou (4 different versions) Asbyvr aka asby I'm_radiant Radiant_soul Taletrap Wolfi_vr Auralistv Pattiiiiiiii Furtrap Catzy Dull dummy Padoru 0saaga0 Okami (dull dummy) Vectorito Takarow Mixievrc Dovevrc Demi_fox Ghostpandavr Ashley_owl aka Crystal_owl And aka dark forest owl Sarachiku Hemoo habis Tycme Zuzinatorka Bluetwitchvr Xobralvl70 aka Xobra86 Ezumii_vr Heavenlyangel10 Theexilednivera marcylvsbblgum And cyberchimp Dlc fighters Rozeyblue Londonlad Soulunamia Ratchet232 Marskiller Derpy j queen Stafare Abby21 Karoboard Karadestare Darrenzeus Wingsmandraws John coday Sora_tempest Jackalwhitescar Rottenroses23 Shrimpyshrimpvr Vulnerali Pinkchyu Pinksheep vtuber Whitemesser Blitzgiita Awkward_isa Violetvr Liel loves Bigtomato Lolathon Fillian Rekson Kendomurft Starpinkmax Mechus Mana the fox Nyxthebat Ralic101 Neardynanny Lowpolybun Thebehaim Odomfire Skruffe (vrchat) Mellyaria Sivi_rabbitlady Minivonscatt Pushygamin Bossinator01 Nickwong001 Mrcrensh Capital_yam Elemental finland And mizuki sakura Firerainbow_vr And firerosevr Assist trophy helpers Ivylistar Pud_pud Tasuh Domaina duck Lord waro Thehybridvr Aloryn_elfmoonblossom Slick_richie Thekibblemaster Naisiri nao Maydie (vrchat) Nature madness Leafions Rosedoodle Thatonerebel Fustylugs Divanna Secret Eros Frostyfrog Xeroafix Chika_ika Aarkanit (vrchat) Chibi pomu rainpuff Chibi finana ryugu Smol gawr gura Alex (huggy dungeons) Teddy bear killer (huggy dungeons) Eye monitors (huggy dungeons) The big spider machine (huggy dungeons 2) Farron_ch Wisteria aka flashyklau Korivr Tfmjohnny Techton (vrchat) Sugarcube Nologicdavid Greatmoonarmora Peachjars Illythekitty Drumsy Squishyrob Smash_ter (vrchat) Seanvr Soupsvr Spazkoga Starnovakitty Ryujin_death Rozeyblue Ryan Powell Jakkuba Nerdkoopa Adc And artsyvrc And that's it buddy oh for the stages you can choose 30 stages in the vrchat fighters game And that's it buddy 🙂👍 also keep up the good work guys 🙂

[@foxzyx]

Please add physics/interaction presets for people to use when making VRChat worlds. So people can use a preset to allow an object or surface to climbed on or moved in a certain way. It really breaks immersion when I can’t grab onto things I could typically grab on to irl

[@luna-nem8811]

this this this, its the only reason why i never full sended into vrc let us go to ranges and fully operate weapons n shit

[@DesuVR]

Finally, hand tracking mode is actually viable now! I'd like to eventually also see touch interaction with menus and keyboards like with the Meta Quest UI. They should have an SDK for that, I assume.

[@Angelo-wf4kf]

Who needs reading when Strasz can just whisper the patch notes into your ear

[@saphi20]

anyone who finds annoying a man trying to fake a woman's voice.

[@Niko.one.shot.]

@@saphi20me who is he

[@MedienGulli]

@@saphi20 bro playing the wrong game. go back to cod.

[@Angelo-wf4kf]

@@saphi20 being transphobe is kinda uncool idk

[@NostalgicRemedy]

@@Angelo-wf4kf its actually based

[@MikeBonez3356]

Im so happy you finally added light theme support!

[@NightElfProductions]

Still waiting for age verification and parental age verification and separate account types, do something about the preds

[@saphi20]

preds run the game, can't you see the guy in the video acting like what he thinks a woman is?

[@razorbelieves7603]

@@saphi20 mfw

[@exilednivera]

​@@saphi20huh? What with such assumptions

[@Hi_Its_LP]

Ya sure that’s a massive concern, but do something to get these kids out of adult only instances!!!! Regular adults don’t want to socialize with other peoples children. It’s super difficult to find any public instances that aren’t filled with tiny humans screaming. 😩

[@stoobidthing]

mfw when they finally did it

[@ReiTsukinoVT]

I don't understand why you guys are insistent on limiting AVI size for already uploaded AVI's. This is going to cause needless headaches for a lot of people. The existing arrangement was fine as existing AVI's worked while new AVI's had to meet the new requirements.

[@ShaunDreclin]

0:52 please please PLEASE give controller users the same way of using the radial menu where you just move your hand to select an option. My joysticks are so drifty I can hardly control any of my sliders :(

[@20nik]

always exited to watch these when they come out! keep it up VRChat!

[@null7198]

I hope to see some of these hand tracking improvements come to Quest -- It's weird to me that things like the wrist opener, Hand Tracking UI, and Hand Tracking Tutorial are all on PC, but not Quest-- Which is the original platform hand tracking was on, we also can't even change the settings of hand tracking, because it's counted as an unrecognized controller on Quest. Just really hope to see these sometime-- Honestly just more confused about their exclusion than anything.

[@idontlikephonecalls]

Props for rethinking the hand gestures! Haven't tried them yet but they look innovative and made by people who are trying to find handtracking-first controls instead of just porting known touch gestures from phones:3

[@bloomingtails]

Such an honour to see my world featured, thank you! 😄

[@scott_casper]

I love your world! ❤

[@bloomingtails]

@scott_casper Thank you so much! :D

[@Aidenzelda]

This update is a banger! I hope the next update were can use the pc cam for tracking like arms 😁

[@avrilhelm]

Thank you so much for the mirror grabbable toggle!

[@Simonizer]

The eye lineup for opening the menu is genius. I remember trying hand tracking on the quest a few months ago and I couldn't even move. Look how far we've come

[@Moogagot]

...Can we get a full engineer breakdown of some features though? That would be interesting for some of us...

[@pighaver]

patchnotes may have more information this is just a summary

[@Liravin]

not mentioned here is that the max cache size on PC has been increased to 30 GB. to me that's significant news as i frequently used up the 20 GB cache. on that note, i would love to see a "download permanently" feature so i don't have to download _The Great Pug_ for the umpteenth time, but could instead keep it on my storage unless it's updated. there's some worlds and avatars that don't need to be cached in my experience as i use them very frequently, yet i have to download them more often than i'd expect. so being able to just keep a copy of a world on my storage would be useful for that.

[@Anthonyg5005]

you could always change it in the config.json to be higher, this change is just bad because they didn't actually "increase the max" they only increased the minimum

[@Snowy_Venus]

thank you for the spout resolution options, very helpful for recording at a higher resolution than my main monitor

[@Ggatk]

The action menu wearable interface is so cool! And thanks for making quick menus usable for hand tracking!!! For a small suggestion, might an option to make the action menu a right hand wearable interface (like the quick menu on the left) be possible?

[@IsLeafOn]

Could we have PCVR hand tracking work the same way as Quest hand tracking where it fully shows your finger movements individually instead of trying to default into the peacesign/fingergun etc. gestures?

[@varenzer_h8jk425]

Only Virtual Desktop allows that so far

[@evorioss]

thanks for sorting by perfomance. its truly useful feature for events.

[@andrewj9929]

agreed, I was so happy when they announced that

[@dragonbadass2306]

You bastards! Because of the newest update and restrictions on avatar uploads, you rendered my priceless custom avatar useless!

[@starbymilk]

I think something that'd be great for VRChat is a system for questies to take videos. It's super hard to make nice videos just off a screen record on quest. Unless there's already a system like that(That doesnt require a PC)

[@Stefan54]

Fix microphone input on bluetooth headsets. It always uses the internal phone microphone instead the one from the bluetooth headset.

[@BUSCUIT28]

But did you fix the Friend List bug? The one that prevents me from using this social game with my friends because the Friend List doesn't update? And don't say you don't know about it, people have been complaining about it for over two years now.

[@SpectreMC-117]

When the bringing native face tracking to VRchat both mouth, and eye, you should definitely do it

[@nickwatkins5213]

Please bring back native eye tracking. I said the Magic word

[@JuriiK_VR]

Nice Features! We need a list for shown Avatars and a button to clear this list. Eventually it would be nice, if we can remotely unshow Avatars too

[@pighaver]

I love the new fading out its more dramatic haha

[@realevilangel]

Still waiting for that D20 dice mechanic 😥

[@driesverhaag8955]

Opening the action menu with hand tracking is a very welcome feature❤

[@Rairosu]

I was laughing so hard I could not stop "You leave them there every time, How could you?"

[@Ravioli_VR]

You know, one thing that I always appreciate is that they never say "fixed various bugs or glitches", they say precisely what theu fixed, even the smallest most stupid thing

[@treschlet]

Hand tracking request: make a faster way to turn the gesture controls on and off. When I'm using hand tracking to just converse and gesticulate, I always find myself accidentally moving around and grabbing things, but having to hold the left thumb+pinky for several seconds every time I want to switch controls on and off is enough of a pain that I end up just sticking with my controllers. A button on the new wrist thing might be nice for this

[@GhostfaceVRC]

*Bring back Menus* 😪

[@Smoo_fy]

Finally I can change my gogo loco pose with hand tracking omg thank you

[@Xgamer069]

😊 I wish so much, to have opportunity to record the prerecorded video with avatars or the drone to not mess with all of that at the same time and moving and only use myself as the tool and streamer cam for it. Would be so great to have more advanced grabbing objects control and have opportunity to change it to yourself in any time. Maybe a physics. Thank you so much for the new features!! And also, Have a great and Halloween!!!

[@ZanyCat]

VRChat is really cooking with updates. Please keep making good updates like this one!

[@coffeeslayer3432]

THANK YOU

[@prismcrystahla]

This update has caused me to consistently crash at random times when playing. Its as if theres a random timer set when i launch the game before the game decides to basically Alt+F4 itself for no reason.

[@MollyOnPC]

i want earmuff mode to effect my voice to make conversations more private with my friends.

[@nivocz769]

i love his voice!

[@Pik-r8n]

Can anyone help? Steam support just gave up and said to use the web version of steam to load vids. Since some instances rely URL for vids, it just says error and does not load anything. It just started about a week ago, I didnt change anything it just stopped working.😭

[@aphinion]

I stuggle so hard to get patch-notes at work... like AT ALL. And here we get detailed change notes all with a cute avatar and some narration. Love it!!! But what are these minor bugfixes and improvements? *runs*

[@Wrl2008]

You guys should add quest or missions I don’t know. I guess it’s just RPG lover in me, but that would be kind of cool.

[@FantasyNero]

2:06 i usually taking 8K photos looking for 16K, *Why 8K is not there anymore?* 😢

[@bloomingtails]

You can bring it back by changing the config file of your game and using the custom camera preset, VRChat has infos on how to do it on their documentation

[@pighaver]

thats just stream resolution, isn't it?

[@bloomingtails]

@pighaver No, in the json file of the game, so outside of it You open it with notepad and edit some values

[@Doumahere]

Vrchat! I got a pretty cool idea! In the menu on friends section you can talk to them with a voice chat like a in game call so then noone needs to leave mid games!

[@Supervigy]

For goodness sakes stop fixing something that isnt broke for quest link users

[@elitexander7399]

how about bring back clients to protect against crashers. or are yall gonna do something other than ban avatars. clients are harmless and plus you already were talking about staying with emm client but stopped for some reason.

[@OkGoldVR]

Thank you

[@AndrewTheYouTubeCommentator]

Will the steamvr bindings FINALLY fix the controls? Cause as someone who plays on HTC Vive, it STILL is broken ever since that one update.

[@cosmo_y2k1]

any word about PSVR2 receiving finger detection support for PCVR?

[@roudango]

Okay so... worlds don't save when you leave them but... What if people could make their own badges, add them to their worlds, and allow others to find/unlock them as sort-of trophies for doing things in their worlds...?

[@renookami4651]

You already can in the persistance beta. The trick is to save the variable's flag as soon as you unlock the object (so it's already saved way before the player leaves) then call a flag check on PlayerData load finished (which happens when joining the world) so things gets unlocked as soon as the game start (give or take a few frames of initial lag if there's a lot). I don't know how long the beta will last before persistance gets a full release, but there's lots of potential.

[@iDabash]

Sure, these updates are all good, but I want a holiday on the street of desktop gamers as well. At the very least, I'd like to see the ability to reach my hand without turning on the mirror. Hopefully we'll be remembered at some point.

[@TierHarribel]

I have still not found anything to complain about after the last update, let me keep cooking.

[@MetroAndroid]

Can you add the Recently Met Players list to the VRChat website? (Or let me know how to get to it if it's already on there.) It's kind of a pain to have to hop back onto VRChat after a long session just to check the name of someone which I could do in browser more easily.

[@funkyweapon1981]

You guys broke my avis. Idk how to use unity, and will not pay someone to fix them for me.

[@numsei9907]

0:02 "expendable at door 30"

[@agent5758]

how come when I disable allow untrusted urls I still see videos playing? how do I make it so video players are always off for me?

[@verylongchannelhandle]

pretty please fix the HTC Vive bindings, i can't toggle grab things like i used to before the steam bindings update, i now have to hold my triggers to hold things and with the VRC camera this is horrible :c

[@jay.p3g]

mixed tracking for finger tracking and switching between controller and hand tracking?

[@AlyCatVR]

Can I have the minor stability and performance improvements explained to me with math magic?

[@beeeeanie]

@derafog called the badges update... feedback loop complete??

[@zenatigress5623]

I'm tired of my controller unconnected after 10 to 15 seconds if im not moving them

[@romeomarchand3032]

See, I just realized something. PCVR players are getting more features for hand tracking but quest players aren't Are they planning on adding more features with hand tracking on quest two than just on PC?

[@OfficerBarricade]

I would like to wonder why the crashers haven't been dealt with? Because I can't chill in any world without even getting crashed at least one or two times please do something about these crashers I'm getting really annoyed by them and also please do something about the avatar changing people change their avatars way too many times and it makes me lag like really really bad please do something about that I cannot even listen to music in peace or vibe I can't mirror dwell either and this is starting to give me a headache and by headache I mean an annoying headache 😑

[@deliveryboy90]

That would be EAC issue, you should reach out to EAC, and also check your safety settings, and change some of your parameters for non trusted and below users especially for visitors and new player options since most crashers use those kinds of accounts.

[@OfficerBarricade]

@@deliveryboy90 good idea but idk how to contact EAC about this since VRChat are the ones who added EAC to the platform and got everyone furious

[@windwakin]

That’s actually so sick tho

[@manimaman]

Can you ban pedophiles via ip bans?

[@joanofsharc]

they wouldn't ban their own devs

[@xmeowmeowwoofx]

never crashed in years of playing but after this patch im crashing all the time now

[@Mall-4]

In VRChat Android, there are a lot of glitches after the update. I have a headache playing it and it's very annoying.

[@peter_susui]

I updated, and now my friends' and other people's avatars are loading at like 144p, with low quality and I'm on a PC. Before the update everything was normal, then the avatars lost quality. Does anyone know how to solve this? I've already left everything on high, enabled, reinstalled VRChat and avatars continue to look all square and deformed.

[@ShareeBon]

Must be impostor avatars? Make sure you have their avatar turned all the way on.

[@peter_susui]

@ShareeBon So, I checked and it's at maximum, some avatars load normally, others look like impostors. I've already changed the settings, but I don't know how to disable this.

[@ShareeBon]

@@peter_susui If you are using android/Quest you most likely seeing PC Only avatars, and you can only see the Impostors.

[@Saiadessecanalagora-g7m]

Suggestion:Could you make the game more compatible and optimized for other cell phones?

[@G.M.360]

please, please, please increase the android limit, the standalone head sets can handle so much more. i fell 15 or 25 mbs is a reasonable limit. i know a lot of quest avatar creators would love that so much my self included

[@keiabyss295]

Bring back to the NO FBT users the drag space movemnet!!

[@mamproductions1914]

STOP BREAKING THE GAME

[@flameflame2438]

mic problem in mobile with headset

[@SapphireSouls]

Foveated rendering/dynamic foveated rendering when? You already support eye tracking in-house, this is a no brainer free performance increase.

[@KingJosiahSnyder]

When will stream camera come to Quest standalone?

[@the1pigeon]

Stream camera is useless without another app to grab that feed locally, which currently doesn't exist and probably never will, considering the performance hit

[@KingJosiahSnyder]

@ bummer…

[@KingJosiahSnyder]

@@the1pigeon bummer…

[@mustafachato2027]

Can you release VRChat in Apple just like android

[@Artorikus]

Great job with the fixes and changes! I gotta say, though, Strasz's way of talking in the video is a bit distracting, I didin't liked it much Maybe try a more neutral, clear style next time, it’d make things easier to follow.

[@SLSstarlightshadow]

Before you before the end of the year can you and PlayStation and the tendo in every Consol can you guys team up to make VR chat in PlayStation five PlayStation 4 the switch

[@SylphKitty]

YAAAAA ACTION MENU BABEYYYYY

[@Tewinaba]

i hope hand tracking comes to pico 4

[@ShallieDragon]

Neat.

[@supportwaifu]

Grab distance override, please.

[@Egoralka]

Cool❤

[@hgmd3284]

your update broke video players. please fix or i am never using vrchat ever again

[@lizadonrex]

Please increase parameters memory on avatar.

[@emkftw]

Hop the meata quest pro gets stand alone face tracking and eye tracking

[@0MG.AUSTiN]

I can't join groups

[@TheMaxmelner]

Vr chat hand tracking implementation is some of the best in vr especially stand alone quest , yall are crushing thx

[@Bruhwhat81]

Plz add quest cam

[@eustassch]

2:07 map name very please?

[@MissVilla0o]

Hello, I have a question, if Vrchat is rated for children ages 12 and up, if they do an excellent job removing NSFW avatars, why don't they ban or prohibit the club worlds which is where adults attend the most, if the game tries to be as family friendly as possible so that minors and adults can live together in total tranquility and have a peaceful time but they allow there to be +18 clubs where a lot of adultery is committed, why don't they then do an age verification or raise the age rating so that people understand that it is not a children's game. I have seen many comments on the internet that recommend that children should not play it because there are many adults committing adultery even outside of clubs or bars also committing p*dophilia.

[@oxygenman3017]

heres a patchnote, we here at vrchat filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy as our developers used all our money for food for our lard rooms and our shitty asmr update videos featuring a netflix adaptation of barney the purple dinosaur.

[@akiraakiraakiraakira]

you work at vrchat? you work? isn't child labor prohibited where you're parents give you a room for free

[@oxygenman3017]

@@akiraakiraakiraakirayes 🙂

[@Blade15696]

10th time asking for quest sounds back

[@HyroeVR]

4K ! 😃

[@PsychoBenches]

PLEASE remove anticheat FFS. Just have dedicated servers that require anticheat but leave private hosted lobbies without anticheat. It doesn't even work, just adds more lag.

[@DentGaming5656]

Do rybka mini mini in vrchat pissss

[@Berryvr101]

Is vrchat on iOS

[@2Pish]

Sweet