VTOL SSTO prototype \ KSP 1.12 \ Kerbal Space Program

[@ConsciousAtoms]

I found that using hinges clipped inside the engine nacelles works well to avoid the "pointing inward" effect. I made a VTOL Shuttle for landing on Duna with much bigger engines than your model, and that worked fine.

[@eekee6034]

I love the needless jump cut at 0:18 just to punctuate a thought. :) Huh... I just realised this is exactly what I need for use with my plans for a big ol classic sci-fi spaceship. It's a lot smaller and simpler than the junk I've been planning.

[@fijo6207]

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[@Mine0Taur]

What a coincidence! I've been spending these last days tinkering with my own VTOL SSTO. It's a beauty to behold, too bad its great form doesn't function all that well. Last time I played, I discovered that replacing my engine servos with heavier ones actually reduced overall drag by a ridiculous 80%. I guess the engines were swiveling on the lower torque servos making the whole thing constantly shake? Anyway, great vid, keep up the amazing work!

[@basicennis8114]

Please download waterfall! Your plumes will look awesome!!!!

[@RobTheSquire]

I tend to give my rotors a few more degrees of movement so I can get a little reverse thrust when landing verticaly from horizontal flight mode without pitching up too much.

[@logandarklighter]

Interesting. And keeping it simple is a good idea for what you are going for. I would place what are currently your vertical stabilizers into a “V” arrangement so they can provide more stability and control in more vectors. Similar to how the X-23 prototype fighter used a set of 2 v-stabilators instead of the traditional vertical tail and elevator arrangement. This would keep the part count down for wing surfaces without sacrificing control in the atmosphere. I would place them on the actual tail section, because the other advantage that the “V” arrangement would provide for this ship is keeping those parts further back for control but at the same time out of the way of the engine thrust.

[@jeanladoire4141]

The hinges fail if they are put in a lever position to the engine. Clip them aligned to the center of thrust of the engine it's supporting and it will hold up way better

[@freevbucks8019]

You can lock them

[@JollyRogerAerospace]

It's Floppy, Wiggly, Squiggly, Robotics! It's Floppy, Wiggly, Squiggly, Robotics! It's Floppy, Wiggly, Squiggly, Robotics!

[@SparkPluggUwU]

I could really just sit back and just listen to the background music by itself

[@trxsh7972]

The "small" x150 got me

[@freevbucks8019]

You can lock the servos in kal controller btw

[@theimperfectgod7140]

*s m o l* 🗿

[@prolska]

Late but it doesn't matter bc i love your content!

[@aviationist1018]

WHEN LAND-STAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I EAGER FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@maloneymaloney5204]

Reminds me of the old Soviet spaceplane designs.

[@guard13007]

This concept is beautiful! :D

[@stormhawk4277]

I might make my own smol shuttle without vtol thanks to you.

[@NoSTs123]

wow looks so cool can you share the blueprint please?

[@toxicg3100]

very cool, i love the niche design

[@techsbyglebbagrov7470]

VTOl SSTOs tend to have short range. They're cool but its not practical for me :(

[@polishkerbal6920]

Thats why you build VTOL SSTT

[@_.luminosity._]

@@polishkerbal6920 or SSTJL it means single stage to jool "landing"

[@polishkerbal6920]

@@_.luminosity._ SSTT landing and back requires the most delta-v

[@afakeboxofporkramen5334]

I play on console and I loaded ksp and I finished this video before it loaded

[@NickBDesigns]

Nice! This one looks like a challenge but will be cool

[@whoshotdk]

High speed, low drag :)

[@logandarklighter]

You know what? I wonder if the whole rotating engine concept ought to be thrown out? Because for such a small frame and purpose - and attempting to keep things simple, this approach is at odds. I mean - I can't imagine a more COMPLICATED method of "keeping it simple"!! If it were me, I'd ditch the whole rotating engine concept, go back to a standard engine and wing config. And place an engine in a ventral mounted cargo bay. I would also pair the VTOL Jet Engine with a Nested small rocket - or make the VTOL engine a Rapier that you can switch back and forth. Because Jet VTOLs are problematic at the best of times due to spool up and spool down times - there's always a lag in the power curve. And switching to rocket power on final approach gives you lots more control. (There's a REASON Thunderbird 1 and 2 only showed Rockets firing right as they were about to land, even though they were clearly already hovering). Another advantage to this method of "keeping it simple" is that you can choose to land normally via jet power or glide - or even make a version without the VTOL engine and flip the cargo bay for better carrying capacity. Plus - in addition to the dead weight of wings in space (always an issue with SSTO) you also have the added weight of the robotics and hinges which are even LESS useful for a shorter amount of time! You have to factor in the amount of time that a component is going to be useful in mission profile. Wings for SSTO? Yes. Useful for a significant proportion of the elapsed mission time. Rotating engines where the rotational aspect is only in use for landing and take-offs for - at best, elapsed time of about a minute - and then the components are dragged as dead weight throughout the rest of the mission? Not so much. Even the standard VTOL engine I proposed above is pushing those limits - and may exceed them. Which is why I proposed the "Engine in a cargo bay" method of placement - because the variant of "No engine in the cargo bay" gives you more excuse to have the option. Or not.

[@dewolfeFSP]

Fantabulous

[@thatonetreeguy]

Call it the SMOL, SSTO Micro Omnidirectional Laver. Idk why laver.

[@catdealer1144]

ayo you said the aerodynamic nosecone weighs 0.08, but it weights 0.03 it's at 6:25 forgot to add it

[@vaos3712]

Woops 😁

[@shanebarenblatt1925]

The aerodynamic nose cone was actually 0.03 tons

[@vasho4857]

cool

[@redpug5042]

VTOL SSTOs are only possible at a small scale to be efficient (efficient being rotating the engines instead of adding extra engines only used for VTOL). The servos are really floppy at a large scale.

[@ryz_vik]

early this time, and I like the idea.

[@guard13007]

I hope you don't mind, I'm going to copy this design and see if I can make a workable version.

[@jeffclark2869]

why not use a drop tank(s) or disposable rocket packs?

[@vaos3712]

Ssto stands for single stage to orbit. Drop tanks would count as a second stage

[@diamond_tango]

Whats the timelapse music.

[@irpancake5234]

how many damn times did he say small in the intro

[@vaos3712]

11 😎👍

[@cn8412]

So, why not test the engines with the Very Small Nosecone as well?

[@vaos3712]

🤔

[@imperitortitan205]

if its going to be used as a shuttle craft then maybe could re fuel in orbit on a station or something? might be a cool little challange of using the thing :)

[@cmbaz1140]

Looks like a naboo fighter...kinda

[@bravoalpha101st]

Hey! I’m 10 minutes!

[@TheRealGamada]

Hello Vaos. I have a challenge for you : making missiles with stock KSP. It is quite simple : First, take a booster, add flaps on it for manoeuvres, and put a prob. Second, take off. Third, select your target, and set as a target in the navsphere, and put the prograde vector. Fourth, launch your missiles. They should follow your target until hitting it, or running out of ergol.

[@informalchipmunk5775]

Hey what's the name of the music

[@theflyingnon8546]

I don’t know but if you have multiple devices like one of your parents you can use an app called Shazam where it listens to the music and tells you what it is

[@informalchipmunk5775]

@@theflyingnon8546 oh I actually did that but with google assistant. Maybe after a few tries it'll work

[@informalchipmunk5775]

@@theflyingnon8546 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXmTq3iwiN97nqs Found the name in the discription then searched for it for half an hour. It's still not the exact same thing but at 0.75x speed, it's similar.

[@vaos3712]

1994 soundtrack to the old computer game called Outpost 2 . I chopped it and slowed it down so that it can’t be considered original to satisfy the KZbin terms of service.

[@ArchaicAlibi]

SMOL VTOL. I once made a VTOL SSTO that could operate from water. (It was UUUUUUUUUUUUGLY.) Take it from me: carrying pontoons into space is not very fuel efficient. I'm kind of surprised you went with a clamp style wing stopper mechanism. I was thinking you could do it with exactly two parts: a servo and something shaped like (but not as heavy as) a pocket i-beam. The servo is centered in the craft. In VTOL, the i-beam points along the length of the craft. In forward flight, the servo twists the i-beam 90 degrees so that its ends sit above both of the front winglets. The winglets themselves are then set for same vessel interaction rather than having something special attached to them to serve that purpose. Y/N/Maybe?

[@polishkerbal6920]

Who cares about if the vessel is ugly, if it works is good

[@pitekargos6880]

Nice concept, I guess you could pack a bit more fuel at the back.

[@wantedwario2621]

Isnt a vtol ssto just a rocket?

[@castoli44]

6:21 that's 0.03

[@vaos3712]

Woops 😬

[@aviationist1018]

It can be a Virgin Galactic/Blue Origin Competitor

[@kiwi4058]

call it "babytol ssto"

[@PuncakeLena]

Mk2 parts have a hideous amount of drag Just repeating what I've been told

[@vlrze]

dude I like ur content but that background music is really annoying ngl

[@vaos3712]

🤔

[@dranand75]

day 2 of sayin random words till i get pinned todays word is pneumonoultramicroscopicsilcavolcanoconiosis

[@vaos3712]

Wtf 😂