VULCANS: Cultural Index

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@trespire
@trespire 7 жыл бұрын
Live long and prosper. R.I.P Leonard Nemoy
@aeondecker9210
@aeondecker9210 5 жыл бұрын
For always and ever ..
@mightytaco123
@mightytaco123 5 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace my Cousin ricki. I’ll miss him
@robertholtz
@robertholtz 5 жыл бұрын
Nimoy
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 7 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think planet Vulcan is a wasteland _because_ of the Vulcans in the distant past. It's not hard to imagine that they nuked their own planet before they embraced logic.
@cladiax1
@cladiax1 7 жыл бұрын
lol that is why, they had some massive nuclear war called the "Time of Awakening" that destroyed their culture and society, forcing the survivors to radically change their society
@GrimReaper-dh8yc
@GrimReaper-dh8yc 6 жыл бұрын
So they have a similar backstory to the Krogan, minus the reliance on logic?
@KuDastardly
@KuDastardly 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the narrator implied that the planet had always existed as a dessert planet. With the kind of chaotic emotions the Vulcans naturally possessed, I wouldn't be surprised they could develop WMDs far more destructive than what humans used during the Eugenics war.
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 5 жыл бұрын
@@KuDastardly Dessert planet? SWEET!
@marclytle644
@marclytle644 5 жыл бұрын
@@DMSProduktions Mmm tasty.
@stethespaniard2
@stethespaniard2 7 жыл бұрын
That picture of tuvoc with neelix's finger pulling his mouth up shows the incredible self control of Vulcans
@greencat1314
@greencat1314 6 жыл бұрын
stethespaniard2 If I am right, it is the Same episode in which Tuvok kills a hologramm-Neelix over a joke .
@IvoryTower779
@IvoryTower779 3 жыл бұрын
Gimme a time stamp
@stethespaniard2
@stethespaniard2 3 жыл бұрын
@@IvoryTower779 06:36 having those grubby things almost in my mouth would make me sick. You just know he didn’t wash them
@stethespaniard2
@stethespaniard2 3 жыл бұрын
@@greencat1314 sorry, very late. Yeah I think it is. It’s so satisfying to see him choked to death
@IvoryTower779
@IvoryTower779 3 жыл бұрын
@@stethespaniard2 your right those things are grubby
@XX-sp3tt
@XX-sp3tt 6 жыл бұрын
A correction is in order. Vulcan emotions aren't intense from years of suppression, they've been suppressed for years BECAUSE they're so intense, and Vulcan take offense at being considered heartless, "We have emotions, but we control them, we don't let them control us."
@stardate_2798.8
@stardate_2798.8 Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@DerClouder
@DerClouder 5 жыл бұрын
Here in Finland, in my hometown there is was this old factory building that read "VULCAN" on the side of the building. Today i know it was just a steel foundry, and they just named it after the Roman god of volcanoes and forges, but when i was a kid back in '95 or '96, i asked my father what does the word VULCAN mean. He told me that they are pointy-eared people from outer space who have no feelings and their favourite past-time is paying taxes and voting for conservatives. Now imagine my surprise when i later saw Star Trek for the first time and found out my father was actually telling the truth AND trolling me at the same time!
@TransitTycoon
@TransitTycoon 4 жыл бұрын
Its no wonder why your country is run by feminists.
@DerClouder
@DerClouder 4 жыл бұрын
@@TransitTycoon Oh, you are mistaken, my friend. We shot the feminist commies at the border during ww2. Now our country is run by retarded clowns.
@kristiankepley5944
@kristiankepley5944 4 жыл бұрын
Clouder what’s the difference?
@marcobhuachalla9814
@marcobhuachalla9814 4 жыл бұрын
That’s a good Dad there!
@spacemanspiff6332
@spacemanspiff6332 Жыл бұрын
Lol, he was almost right. Only voting conservative is the opposite of logic. You gotta be drowning in propaganda driven emotions to be doing that.
@jamesr6565
@jamesr6565 7 жыл бұрын
Vulcans are a lovely people. I never hear anyone mention this, but Vulcans and Romulans are a very close parallel with the Light Elves and Dark Elves of Norse mythology. Much as the Calaquendi and Moriquendi of Tolkien are; and those of the Thor franchise. This idea that humankind's closest neighbors, in the "astral plane" or the "otherworlds" (which meant something more like a parallel universe originally, not a physical planet) are these two races of pointed-eared smart people, one friend and one foe, is so widespread, that I'm confident that whenever we finally meet aliens of some type, they'll be straight up elves.
@NotSure109
@NotSure109 7 жыл бұрын
Billy Meiers' Nordics?
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 7 жыл бұрын
JamesR That might explain their pointy ears.
@greenanubis
@greenanubis 7 жыл бұрын
Even if they are not so similar to elves i bet that human psyche would construct the rest of that archetype about them.
@OnePiece-yy1lu
@OnePiece-yy1lu 6 жыл бұрын
Romulans are not smart
@jonsnor4313
@jonsnor4313 6 жыл бұрын
Vulcan are space elves pretty much from tolkien, even with the same background of violence.
@funzjag
@funzjag 7 жыл бұрын
When I was a young boy I always admired Spock and his people. Being a very emotional person, I always wanted to purge myself of such nonsense! Great video, as usual. Live long and prosper.
@funzjag
@funzjag 7 жыл бұрын
whitemannativemind Peace and long life! 🖖
@funzjag
@funzjag 7 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Njapa Peace and long life 🖖
@NotSure109
@NotSure109 7 жыл бұрын
I find (theravada) Buddhism is a shockingly good analogy for what I always imagined to be the teachings of Surak.
@szlingozec8395
@szlingozec8395 7 жыл бұрын
+Lockjaw How do you type those?
@NotSure109
@NotSure109 7 жыл бұрын
Szling Ozec : it's an emoji on phones. At least Android has it probably iPhone as well. Have you tried not being gay?
@Cylume.
@Cylume. 7 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to hear a little more about the Pon Farr.
@robertmonroe6434
@robertmonroe6434 7 жыл бұрын
giggity
@rogerauger7766
@rogerauger7766 7 жыл бұрын
Alright!
@mac11380
@mac11380 6 жыл бұрын
You horndog!
@fistpunder
@fistpunder 6 жыл бұрын
LOL, What if they had a family guy Vulcan Quagmire?
@dying101666
@dying101666 5 жыл бұрын
you know... there's always porn.
@robchissy
@robchissy 5 жыл бұрын
when watching videos like this makes you appreciate what goes into writing a show like this, not only do they have to invent an alien race and characters to go along with that race, the have to invent a culture, philosophy, what the planet would look like, what type of star and a history. there will be more they have to think about, so whether you like the show or not, you have to admire the work that goes into it
@FattyMcFox
@FattyMcFox 7 жыл бұрын
It should be noted that the Kir'shara, suroks writtings were found by the Seranites and captain archer and it led to a cultural shift that led to a more stable vulcan that was accepting of Telepathic practices.
@NotSure109
@NotSure109 7 жыл бұрын
Vulcan racism
@DarthMalgusSith_Lord
@DarthMalgusSith_Lord 6 жыл бұрын
the first minister during that time was a Romulan Spy sent by the Romulan Star Empire to sabotaged the relationship between the Humans and the Vulcans
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 5 жыл бұрын
@@NotSure109 Racism, IS logical, after all!
@CertifiablyIngame
@CertifiablyIngame 7 жыл бұрын
Like for the Tellarite!
@Skullost
@Skullost 7 жыл бұрын
Tellarite sounds awesome! :'(
@fortkavanagh
@fortkavanagh 7 жыл бұрын
VULCANS are fucking bullshit, our universe is anything & everything BUT logical and reasonable and that's because our world is behaving in a highly illogical & unreasonable!
@masonprice897
@masonprice897 7 жыл бұрын
klinton kavanagh. Do you even know how anything works, everything natural is logical and reasonable. Natural selection, gravity, atoms, evolution, etc. they're all reasonable.
@jamesr6565
@jamesr6565 7 жыл бұрын
The universe is logical in the sense that laws of physics exist, which can be deduced through reason and expressed mathematically or linguistically. But the universe is far more complex than deductive logic and the simpler forms of mathematics that most who regard themselves as "scientifically literate", yet in fact aren't, can make sense of in entirety. Remember also that all systems of logic, like mathematics, rest at their core on a set of fundamental assumptions, called "axioms", which are taken as self-evidently true. With different fundamental assumptions, one's chain of reasoning, however valid, will yield different results..non-Euclidian geometries are one such example. Logic alone cannot establish truth...it can only derive new conclusions from what is already assumed to be true. Which is why so much of science is built around experimental support rather than pure logic. In the popular lexicon, "logical" is often interpreted to mean "provable by experimental evidence ", when experimental proof is actually not logic, in the sense that actual mathematicians and scientists use the term logic. It may be that the logic the Vulcans employ derives its conclusions from the fundamental "axioms" of their worldview...their spiritual beliefs. Perhaps the "evidence" for these axioms lies in the meditative exercises and psychic expeiences common to all Vulcans, rather than through our form of scientific experimentation. There are human philosophers, like the theologians of old like Thomas Aquinas, who were adept logicians, but working within a worldview that is different from that of modern science. Their logic was just as valid as that of the modern logicians...they simply started from different axiomatic assumptions. Modern science is far from the only "logical" worldview, as real students of logic, philosophy and the history of science know.
@demarcusfaulkner7411
@demarcusfaulkner7411 6 жыл бұрын
the tellarites sound awesome
@drjimchiro1
@drjimchiro1 7 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see Breen:Cultural index
@Jcole000123
@Jcole000123 7 жыл бұрын
jim palmer cultural indexes are based on ST canon. In all ST canon, very little is known of the BREEN
@availanila
@availanila 4 жыл бұрын
It has been done
@TheVampirePredator
@TheVampirePredator 4 жыл бұрын
I remember in TNG when they first showed Vulcans also had people of color like humans do. Trekkies had a meltdown saying the Vulcans should only be white, not realizing that any planet with a tilted axis will produce different skin colors to deal with the prevailing weather patterns in that region.
@trekkienzl2862
@trekkienzl2862 7 жыл бұрын
I just finished watching your Tellarite and Vulcan videos. Please do one about: * Humans * Andorians * Klingons * Romulans * Cardassians * Bajorans
@I_hate_Reddit
@I_hate_Reddit 3 жыл бұрын
Humans? I don't know about that. Those creatures seem rather far fetched, don't you think?
@coleturner9106
@coleturner9106 6 жыл бұрын
Listening to this, I think I would fit in quite well on Vulcan. I don't like change, I like things to be logical and to make sense, I don't usually get emotional, I am quite reserved. Plus, the powers of the Vulcan nerve pinch and telepathy would come in handy.
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 5 жыл бұрын
Then I don't think your wife, ( Assuming you even have 1), would be too enthused about your sexlives!
@jcarry5214
@jcarry5214 5 жыл бұрын
And you like to live in 117 degree average temps?
@FlamingoKicker
@FlamingoKicker 7 жыл бұрын
How come the Vulcans always claim that without their conscious damping and control of their emotions then they would have destroyed themselves...YET, the Romulans who really were just Vulcans originally but never worried about controlling their emotions are still around (and will be in the future).
@davidkelly4210
@davidkelly4210 7 жыл бұрын
The Romulans aren't exactly a live and let live race. Nor do they flourish off Romulus, relying on (brutally oppressed) slave races to maintain their Empire. That they have managed to not kill themselves doesn't really mean anything, mere existence doesn't preclude a self-destructive culture.
@jossgoyanko7006
@jossgoyanko7006 7 жыл бұрын
Well, much like the Klingons, that deeply combative stance forces them to maintain a stance of constant expansionism. While they are self-destructive, it doesn't really matter to them so long as they can grow faster than their species can decay. They need to have someone to fight, slaves to oppress, worlds to conquer, some threat that they can use to band together, otherwise they'd probably just consume themselves. Like so many other militarists, they need war to survive.
@NotSure109
@NotSure109 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's just a matter of time. If the Romunlans are a half-way point between historic undisciplined Vulcans, and self-destruction.
@szlingozec8395
@szlingozec8395 7 жыл бұрын
+ Phil Adams The Romulans and Vulcans are not actually the same race, by living on a significantly different planet for a great many generations the Romulans have actually evolved (in the sense that they have changed biologically as a species, which is not to say that it is necessarily an improvement) . Their emotions are actually far less potent than that of Vulcans by the time the TOS or even Enterprise takes place.I think that the Romulans are far more similar to humans than to Vulcans as far as mind and emotion go (although I may be mistaken here). They are however still very similar to Vulcans physically.
@Obliteradon
@Obliteradon 6 жыл бұрын
Because the Vulcans may claim they act as logically as possible, that doesn't automatically mean they're always right.
@LibertyandFreedom4
@LibertyandFreedom4 7 жыл бұрын
Favorite character in all of the Star Trek universe is Spock, followed by Quark but I digress. In Spock and the Vulcans I see hope for humanity, we should not nor should we ever suppress our emotions what we should do is learn to govern them responsibly with temperance and humility. Our emotions are both our greatest strength and weakness and from there all the worlds trouble and solutions are available to us. Without temperance and humility the worst of our emotions hate, lust, anger, vengeance, spitefulness, ignorance, etc have turned this world into the very hell we fear. With temperance and humility those same emotions can be channeled to fight those things that we know are wrong and that are holding us back from reaching our full potential. Bigotry, greed, ego, hate, ignorance, etc WILL NOT BE ELIMINATED but we will be educated as to their effects on us and what we can do, to not allow those negative influencers to effect us in the worst possible way. This will take a paradigm shift in our society but with perseverance, courage and grit we can get there or at least for the FIRST TIME, leave this world a better place than we got it.
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 5 жыл бұрын
Tell THAT to all the SNOWFLAKES of today! (Facts don't care about your feelings!)
@MLBlue30
@MLBlue30 4 жыл бұрын
@@DMSProduktions What we need is empathy, not cold intellectualism. Your kind is the death of us all.
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 4 жыл бұрын
@@MLBlue30 Fuck head! What I said is still true! (You MIGHT want to learn to actually READ as well!)
@brucelouie4613
@brucelouie4613 4 жыл бұрын
The reason why vulcans suppress their emotions is because they can be overwhelmed by them because by nature they are highly emotional and almost savage like people more than Klingons believe it or not. Humans on the other hand do not have this so we can have emotions without reverting into an animal. That's why vulcans envy humans because we can control our emotions better or at least don't get overwhelmed by them.
@CertifiablyIngame
@CertifiablyIngame 7 жыл бұрын
Like for the Quarians!
@kairon156
@kairon156 7 жыл бұрын
+1
@nickwilliams8302
@nickwilliams8302 7 жыл бұрын
An alternative theory to Vulcan's harsh environment shaping the peoples' emotional instability might be that the Vulcan peoples' emotional instability caused the planet's harsh environment. It's not too much of a stretch to suppose that a race inclined to short-term emotional gratification might cause some kind of ecological disaster that resulted in the planet's desertification. The manner of Suraks' death indicates that the Vulcans' warlike ways had at least some consequences for the planet. Such devastation could well be a primary reason the Vulcans were prepared to accept the teaching of so extreme a philosopher as Surak. "Lots of people are dying." is generally not something that tends to dissuade overly-emotional, violent people from being overly-emotional and violent. Their likely response would be, "Of course lots of people are dying: *I'm killing them, you moron!* The plan is working!" To put it another way, it's easier to accept the fact that many are losing when there remains the real possibility that you could still win. The spectacle of the planet *itself* dying, however, might just possibly provide enough motivation for a race to be ready to accept a radical solution.
@jannegrey
@jannegrey 7 жыл бұрын
+Nick Williams I believe that was even said in Enterprise, that the current state of the planet was a result of years of war using nukes. "The spectacle of the planet itself dying, however, might just possibly provide enough motivation for a race to be ready to accept a radical solution." If this was true more people would be inclined to do something about Global Warming. In 300 years Europe and USA might look like Vulcan.
@Princess2Warrior
@Princess2Warrior 6 жыл бұрын
+Jan Negrey *Unless global warming is fake - or a naturally occurring phenomenon.*
@coatlecue
@coatlecue 5 жыл бұрын
That commenter several below this one thought the same thing I did as a somewhat bright child. I came from people who tend wear their emotions on their sleeves. Worrying about what others think of you, whether your girlfriend is faithful, who were your real pals. And then there's the adult end of the emotional pool..... Star trek tos' first airing was when I was a wee lad who's very appearance pointed me out to the bullies. Even being smart was a liability. All these things are still amongst young folk I understand. Mr. Nimoys's character to me was the difference between living a more or less normal life and destroying myself out of anguish and depression. Thank you Uploader for the reminder that all the solutions to mine and most people's issues is within them
@LnPPersonified
@LnPPersonified 6 жыл бұрын
What a great idea for a series. Also, very well done with the Vulcans. It's always nice to see a deeper look into the lore of such a fascinating race.
@xochi98
@xochi98 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I was really hoping he’d mention the romulans splitting from the Vulcans
@Networkfreakmid
@Networkfreakmid 7 жыл бұрын
I would love a Cultural Index on the Iconians, now that STO has completed their arc.
@kilmcm45
@kilmcm45 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, 6 episodes and I'm hooked. You just earned yourself a subscriber. May your content outlive KZbin. I hope you do the non-trek races as well as these. I'd be thrilled to see your take on the yuuzhan vong....a race that exists outside The Force....ever since one of their binary stars collapsed.....and they removed themselves from the "natural order" by converting their planet into a "worldship", able to escape their fate on ingenuity and their mastery of genetic manipulation. They are fanatical biotech specialists that veiw "metal technology" as an abomination to their god, and ritually mutate themselves in honor of the figurehead of their faith. Such a perfect foil for the Jedi. Particularly since they are I'm u we to direct application of the Force... (can't be sensed or moved with Jedi TK....but a Jedi could hurl another object at them).
@RealityIsTheNow
@RealityIsTheNow 7 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subs. The cultural is excellent work. Thank you, and keep them coming. :D
@robertflegal1735
@robertflegal1735 3 жыл бұрын
Information that I definitely required. I have always been a trekkie and I am fond of the Vulcans. More information would be great so hopefully there will be an update!!!
@anthowinebradford2978
@anthowinebradford2978 5 жыл бұрын
I love your comments on all the species especially Doctor Who this is a threshing Outlook that you took on Star Trek but didn't the romulans and Vulcans used to be the same species at one time
@nursemedic17
@nursemedic17 7 жыл бұрын
I thought the Vulcans found the humans....the Federation wasn't in existence yet, so your comment on the Federation found the Vulcans is incorrect? The Vulcans came to Earth, not the other way around?
@TANMAN9095
@TANMAN9095 6 жыл бұрын
"Founded" as in formed, created. Do you english?
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 5 жыл бұрын
@@TANMAN9095 LOL! Doesn't seem like you do either!
@elizabethjansen2684
@elizabethjansen2684 4 жыл бұрын
Vulcans were the second race to contact humans.
@robertmonroe6434
@robertmonroe6434 7 жыл бұрын
i have a request for this series pink-skin... the Andorians would be great. :)
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 5 жыл бұрын
27 ROMULANS watched this!
@michaelbowie3269
@michaelbowie3269 7 жыл бұрын
Personally, I would like write a story that the Vulcans become the destroyers of the Federation by their long bottled emotions.
@superdani152003
@superdani152003 4 жыл бұрын
wonderful video!thank you for sharing with us your content!
@MTMcCoy
@MTMcCoy 5 жыл бұрын
I'm bingeing all your videos like a Netflix show 🖤 Love your work
@austin1839
@austin1839 6 жыл бұрын
Considering that the Vulcans almost wiped themselves out during their nuclear war the real question might be... are you ready... ARE WE THE VULCANS?
@Janoha17
@Janoha17 5 жыл бұрын
Enterprise had explicit parallels drawn between humans and Vulcans, which is why the latter were wary of the former.
@Nine-Signs
@Nine-Signs 4 жыл бұрын
If Vulcan has no moons how was Spock marooned on a moon of vulcan in the 2009 movie. Oh now I remember, because everything from the minute JJ touched star trek unto this moment is bull.
@superthorc6894
@superthorc6894 4 жыл бұрын
ArmyOfAll you know JJ superficial and not great in the finer details
@mariajohnson-tanner2720
@mariajohnson-tanner2720 Жыл бұрын
These are not moons but companion planets.
@devonbrockhaus6554
@devonbrockhaus6554 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if justice is a logical concept. The inherent contingency and absurdity of life among the stars, along with the possibility of parasitic, sociopathic, Vulcans, particularly those in power, make it hard to see how it could last. Hot, explosive, behaviors would certainly be unacceptable, but what's to prevent emotions from being served up cold?
@angrymisanthropistfreak6038
@angrymisanthropistfreak6038 7 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered what Vulcans do for fun or entertainment, or if they even feel the need for such things. Do they play games? Do they dance or something? We've never really seen any of that.
@memebrowser_6249
@memebrowser_6249 6 жыл бұрын
Angry Misanthropist Freak Chess is one thing
@elizabethjansen2684
@elizabethjansen2684 4 жыл бұрын
They do play music.
@venariansolider1949
@venariansolider1949 4 жыл бұрын
Learning , knowledge gaining and sharing .
@mariajohnson-tanner2720
@mariajohnson-tanner2720 Жыл бұрын
They have music and logic games like the one Tuvok plays they also have martial arts similar to the ones we have but possibly tougher. They also have the various meditations like we see Spock use they seem to have a very spiritual side as we see with the Fal Tor Pan and the Kolinar, we see the priests and Priestesses.
@suzanneroberge494
@suzanneroberge494 9 ай бұрын
I think they dance, since Spock says Vulcan children learn dances in nursery school (Whom God's Destroy), but as adults I sort of imagine them developing dances with complex steps and patterns that must be done, almost like a mathematical equation to be worked on. Group dances likely never involve physical contact with the other dancers.
@roverdover4449
@roverdover4449 4 жыл бұрын
This guys voice is as good as on any BBC documentary.
@jessepage6575
@jessepage6575 5 жыл бұрын
You know, I have always wondered why the Romulans and the Vulcans are practically different species. No concept of evolutionary theory allows for such rapid mutation or change so quickly without a significant disease or artificial tinkering. In many ways the Vulcans remind me of Human Augments like Khan beings of extraordinary powers and abilities both telepathic (which the Romulans do not seem to be) and strength (even more so than Romulans I assume albiet without any real evidence). In fact, every augment we see in Star Trek with the exception of Bashir, whose own abilities were somewhat limited compared to Khan or the Enterprise Soong children, have extreme emotional problems and violent tendencies. Could the Romulans be the original inhabitants of Vulcan and the Vulcans augments who accepted Surak's teachings? Just a wild theory and I'm sure there are plenty of novels and comics that disagree but it does seem to be possible with established film and tv.
@superthorc6894
@superthorc6894 4 жыл бұрын
Jesse Page most likely parallel evolution is at work
@A51UK
@A51UK 4 жыл бұрын
Romulans and the Vulcans are the same species, it say in the shows that Romulans left there home world, maybe some time before the Time of Awakening or after and reject of Surak. There been many story in the shows (e.g. star trek enterprise, star trek next generation) where try to reunite to two people sometime by force.
@z1az285
@z1az285 2 ай бұрын
well non canon trek lore extensively discusses how the orion race who were technologically more advanced marked them for enslavement .. This was at a time when surak was gaining traction but when many of the leadership (who were beginning to folow his ideas) were imprisoned, including S'task one of his key disciples, all hope seemed lost but the orions had not accounted for Vulcan psionic abilities which they used very effectively and ultimately defeated the orions. S'task himself escaped his captors and was rescued but he rejected surak completely though he also accepted the more strife and wars would be futile and he headed a movement that would leave Vulcan to create another vulcan as it was meant to be , strong but not completely devoid of logic. and so millions left to settle romulus and other systems.
@thomashill6347
@thomashill6347 5 жыл бұрын
Two good races I would like to hear about The videan and The Harogen from Voyager sorry if spelling is wrong.
@GoodVideos4
@GoodVideos4 2 жыл бұрын
It mentioned the original teachings of Surak being lost. I must watch part the series Enterprise again. as it mentioned that.
@davidkranenburg6853
@davidkranenburg6853 7 жыл бұрын
The Syrranites are actually correct in their interpretations of Surak's teachings because their leader during Enterprise had the Katra of Surak which allowed Surak to speak to him.
@dying101666
@dying101666 5 жыл бұрын
I try to be like the vulcans. I can be so emotionally unstable sometimes.
@G11713
@G11713 4 жыл бұрын
The state of Vulcan seems more likely a consequence of their violent past. I am thinking multiple overlapping world wars for thousands of years. Clearly, their now baren rock couldn't have evolved complex humanoid life or kept it nourish. Perhaps the late environmental devastation brought on by technological weapon innovations also helped convince the Romulans to leave. It would be ironic that perhaps the Romulans were relatively the Vulcan version of the peaceniks. :)
4 жыл бұрын
It makes sense... T'Pal always seemed on a psychopathic cold calculated balanced beam that was always weighing the urgent need to snap every humans neck but if not for the greater good. That ice sheet of logic over a lake of lava must be very, very thick. 🤔Perhaps it's a force field instead.🖖
@curtislangford3181
@curtislangford3181 5 жыл бұрын
The desert planetside is not the ORIGINAL condition of VULCAN!
@collinsdarkwa281
@collinsdarkwa281 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting
@scottmcintosh4397
@scottmcintosh4397 5 жыл бұрын
How about a Cultural Index about the people of The Original Series First Federation? 🌌
@Toasty-du3fl
@Toasty-du3fl 7 жыл бұрын
Great quality video, keep up the good work.
@questaoolavo2346
@questaoolavo2346 7 жыл бұрын
the vulcans are very espiritual, they even belive in soul, they can transfer soul to another body in a ritual
@hamobu
@hamobu 4 жыл бұрын
Vulcan became a desert planet because of nuclear wars that early Vulcans fought.
@williambornstein3664
@williambornstein3664 3 жыл бұрын
Peace and long life. Live long and prosper. R. I. P. Leonard Niemoy
@AppliedMathematician
@AppliedMathematician 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video.
@pitmatix1457
@pitmatix1457 4 жыл бұрын
Are we going to see some Warhammer 40,000 races in these cultural indexes. Love the variety so far!
@TheNade
@TheNade 4 жыл бұрын
Pure logic will always lead you back to religion and spirituality, if you haven't gotten to that point then keep going with your logic, it always ends in something beautiful, not empty.
@stephenshelton4267
@stephenshelton4267 6 жыл бұрын
The whole emotion thing seems inconsistent through Star Trek. In TOS it seemed like Vulcans literally had no emotion, then it evolved into intense emotion suppressed by logic. So why would Spock's human half make it harder to suppress emotion when Vulcans are more explosive?
@jonsnor4313
@jonsnor4313 6 жыл бұрын
While his emotions are likely more moderate his human side wouldnt allow the same total shutting up of emotions. And his mother i suppose had an influence on him not being a hardcore vulcan with an iron clad mentality.
@brentalanadamlandgrave7635
@brentalanadamlandgrave7635 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent point. I have wondered about this concept, as well.
@shamusmcwright2640
@shamusmcwright2640 5 жыл бұрын
Now I understand where they got the Xeleyans on the Orville
@micaelaminer5155
@micaelaminer5155 6 жыл бұрын
This was fun. Thanks !
@johnkeck
@johnkeck 5 жыл бұрын
Good information. I wish there was more on their historical timeline. (I'm assuming the events in _Enterprise_ are canon still.)
@leonmercer6359
@leonmercer6359 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a culture index over ExoSquad and War Planets Shadow Raiders
@MichaelSHartman
@MichaelSHartman 5 жыл бұрын
Despite the Roman name Vulcan, I have viewed the as analogous to the ancient Greeks. Unknown to some, the Greeks had a definite influence on early Rome, who saw them as wealthier, more sophisticated, and educated. The play between war and logic might be seen in Sparta, and Thebes.
@BrotherDerrick3X
@BrotherDerrick3X 4 жыл бұрын
The Greek name for Vulcan was Hephaestus.
@50043211
@50043211 5 жыл бұрын
The question is, why are Vulcans white in the first place regarding their exposure to sunlight to such an extent.
@bomber66a
@bomber66a 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds good!!! Looking forward to it :)
@LordMelbury1953
@LordMelbury1953 7 жыл бұрын
Centauri Republic would be my choice
@90lancaster
@90lancaster 7 жыл бұрын
Fond of tentacles are you ?
@Princess2Warrior
@Princess2Warrior 6 жыл бұрын
*Testinacles.*
@lagrangesix9836
@lagrangesix9836 7 жыл бұрын
I vote for the most important species in the Star Trek universe - the Pakleds!
@Vladimir_The_Impaler
@Vladimir_The_Impaler 7 жыл бұрын
I must admit after splitting up with my EX about this time last year after being together for 9 made me wish I could just suppress my emotions
@FlamingoKicker
@FlamingoKicker 7 жыл бұрын
Is "infinate" a typo? I read that Gene Roddenberry came up with that idea just to merchandise that piece of costume jewelry as a way to make some extra money on the side.
@davidwhite9135
@davidwhite9135 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do the reptilians from star trek and the changlings
@antcow1239
@antcow1239 5 жыл бұрын
I've always figured the Vulcans suppressed emotion rather than controlled it. Control would imply that you use the right emotions at the right time. Which would require trial and error and experience. I don't think the Vulcans have this experience.
@jacenstarheart6256
@jacenstarheart6256 7 жыл бұрын
Sensational!
@MyLifeInVideos
@MyLifeInVideos 7 жыл бұрын
can you do a human index you no the star trek humans and as detailed as the other index you have done?? would be interesting tu hear how you do that one !! like if you would want him to do human index
@CertifiablyIngame
@CertifiablyIngame 7 жыл бұрын
Liked!
@nzappazapp1264
@nzappazapp1264 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@cathyvickers9063
@cathyvickers9063 7 жыл бұрын
Not nearly as informative as expected! Prior to Vulcan cultural expansion in canon thru the movies & series set in the 24th century, fan speculation was limited to what was revealed in TOS. The idea that a single, pacifist culture based solely on logic & a suppressed sex drive predominated fan fiction. A lot of this was overturned by the depictions of Spock, Sarek & Vulcan in the movies, which introduced elements of tradition & mysticism to the mix. Authorized novels carried on the theme that Vulcans were much more emotional & culturally diverse than previously thought, even strongly suggesting that the rites of Kolinahr (seen in ST:TMP) & the ritual used to restore Spock's mind to his restored body (in STIII:The Search For Spock) belong to 2 entirely different philosophies/subcultures in Vulcan society. Another point that the video didn't address is that we clearly saw when Vulcan society changed. A criticism of Star Trek: Enterprise was that the Vulcans were unlike the tolerant, helpful Vulcans established in the earlier series. All fan notions that the Vulcans had been benevolent & helpful partners of post-war humanity following First Contact were dashed by Enterprise's portrayal of Vulcans as wary, distrustful, & manipulative. The show made a good case for the Vulcan point-of-view, which makes sense in an overall arc of social evolution. Human culture has changed over time; it really was illogical to assume that Vulcan society hadn't! Vulcans, as portrayed in Enterprise, favored a slow & methodical approach. They weren't given to the sorts of spontaneous inspiration so common in imaginative human beings. They also, remember, live around 200+ years, so fewer generations had passed for the Vulcan diplomats than the humans since Cochrane's flight. They knew very well how recently human beings had still been a violent & unpredictable race; & their cultural mindset crippled the more senior members of the diplomatic delegation in seeing humanity's potential. I tend to think of T'Pol as a trailblazer. Because she was younger & was marginally more flexible; besides having other incentives, as we learned thru the show. She was the first to demonstrate that it was POSSIBLE for a suitably open-minded Vulcan to function in a mostly human crew. I don't remember the episode, but it was on Enterprise that we first saw Vulcans embrace the premise of IDIC & the value of a more moderate approach to emotional control. Certainly, later Vulcans such as Sarek-- who had lived his entire life in the Federation with humans as allies-- was far more emotional than practitioners of Kolinahr. He even married a human woman, & consented to have a hybrid child: personal choices which would've been incomprehensible to his grandparents' generation, exemplified in Enterprise's Vulcan diplomatic mission.
@MyDiesel101
@MyDiesel101 7 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@stevenzheng5459
@stevenzheng5459 2 ай бұрын
My problem with "Vulcan Logic" is that it is not actually logic in the mathematical sense. Vulcan Logic is closer to the Neo-Confucian concept of Li 理, which roughly translates to Principle (with a capital P). Li is the expression of Dao 道 and is a pure, perfect, and true principle that can be understood by the Mind 心. Like Vulcans, Neo-Confucian philsophers in China believed emotions confuse our understanding of Li. To improve one's perception and understanding of Li, one needs to meditate 靜坐 and investigate things 格物 to uncover Li.
@tomgauntlestrange
@tomgauntlestrange 5 жыл бұрын
in joining the federation they were exposed to human nature, a controlled form of chaos as opposed to their controlled logic
@Pahjx
@Pahjx 4 жыл бұрын
So Surak is basically Karl Marx, logic is philosophical materialism, Kolonar is class conciousness, V'tosh Ka'tur is post-modernism, Syrranites are Leninists, and ''Live long and prosper'' is ''Workers of the world unite.''
@VulcanOnWheels
@VulcanOnWheels 6 жыл бұрын
Most violent? I think you're mistaking Vulcans for Klingons. 3:47 Where did you get this from? (video) 5:25 I read that the circle and the triangle represent the infinite and the finite. 6:40 I expected you to use an image of Tuvok choking Nelix, which is what happened in the episode the previous image is from.
@noirangel6416
@noirangel6416 6 жыл бұрын
Is it too much to ask for you to do the Jaffa from Stargate?
@piotrskodowski7544
@piotrskodowski7544 7 жыл бұрын
Ideas for nest entries Tholians, Wookies, Sheliak, Sith (race not organisation). FOr now Tellarites.
@volkswag12
@volkswag12 7 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the Grunts (Unggoy) from the Halo series.
@nobody-sp9ps
@nobody-sp9ps 5 жыл бұрын
The nietzscheans from Andromeda
@benjaminseverin3436
@benjaminseverin3436 5 жыл бұрын
so much info has been left out ! more research is required by the organiser of this channel, overall im imoressed cos it fills in the blanks of my imagination
@cholakuany5989
@cholakuany5989 4 жыл бұрын
How does greed benefit any race or nation, especially when it comes to "leaders"? -The heart is the center of a human being and when that is tainted, shits happen and innocent civilians suffer. Is that logic?
@brianburke4756
@brianburke4756 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the saying was, "Infinite variable, infinite diversity."
@GoodVideos4
@GoodVideos4 2 жыл бұрын
Can have, of Babylon 5 - Minbari: Cultural Index.
@MosheEmmanuel
@MosheEmmanuel 7 жыл бұрын
How about how the Romulans got their ridge on their forehead? Did they at one time mate (or do genetic experiments) with the Klingons because I read a book that said that Romulans internal organs were slightly different than Vulcans. Also, are the Remans an ancient offshoot of Vulcans that left well before the Romulans. Could the Remans be the equivalent of Human Neanderthal that did not go extinct and were separated by the Seeders or Preservers to see how the Remans and Vulcans evolve independently of each other?
@brianoconnell6459
@brianoconnell6459 4 жыл бұрын
One has to wonder how much of Vulcan is rubble from destroyed cities. They were on the edge of destruction (not only destroying cities and environment), who knows how far they went?
@YZFHornet
@YZFHornet 7 жыл бұрын
how about doing a video about classic Cylons from Battlestar Galactic 1978 please!!!
@TheKnightsShield
@TheKnightsShield 4 жыл бұрын
4:07 Kolinahr! Kolinaaahr!! Oh, right, wrong franchise.
@Activation1111
@Activation1111 6 жыл бұрын
How long do they live? Mating practices? Their laws? How do they raise their children? How are the Romulans related to Vulcans & when & why did they separate?
@mariajohnson-tanner2720
@mariajohnson-tanner2720 Жыл бұрын
The lifespan of a Vulcan on average is around 250 years and the Vulcans who rejected logic were exiled they then evolved over centuries into the Romulans we see now.
@Northfordtrailcam
@Northfordtrailcam 4 жыл бұрын
I was not aware that the Vulcan's shared a common mythological history with the Romans.
@Treatsandthreadscom
@Treatsandthreadscom 7 жыл бұрын
this is cool
@buckaroobanzai7063
@buckaroobanzai7063 6 жыл бұрын
Why did you deliberately ignore the fact that it was the finding of the Kir'shara, Surak's original teachings, was what led to the reformation of the Vulcan people? You implied that Surak's original were forever lost.
@zzbullan
@zzbullan 7 жыл бұрын
please do Tellerites
@julianbashir8277
@julianbashir8277 6 жыл бұрын
Reemans are decendants of Vulcans. Reemus was not inhabited.
@YnseSchaap
@YnseSchaap 6 жыл бұрын
Technically Spock isn't a true Vulcan
@elizabethjansen2684
@elizabethjansen2684 4 жыл бұрын
He's half Vulcan he is true to Vulcan ways. Otherwise your comment is illogical.
@Cupit29
@Cupit29 7 жыл бұрын
Wood is a scarce commodity in a post-scarcity society...?
@fingerboxes
@fingerboxes 7 ай бұрын
Patrolling the Forge almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
@drewwillans1417
@drewwillans1417 7 жыл бұрын
Became culturally aware that descendants of Vulcan species exist on Planet Earth in the stardate of April 2017
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