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[@zerotoninemusic5957]

Thanks for your extensive testing, this comes in really handy! Keep it up!

[@malcolmhedges7346]

Took delivery of our's yesterday, replacing an i3. Old software (waiting on update). We have a Model 3 as well which we'll use for long distance (twice a year we'll drive to Italy from the UK) but I love the size of the car (good for us, children are 18 and 20 now) and as it improves (plug and charge, flatter charging curve, economy improvements, network improvements) I could see this being the only car we'll need. All the best

[@jonpetter8921]

ID 3 will be a great update in term of practicality.

[@MrBenj0219]

Considering id3/i4 or Model 3 myself. Could you describe a bit more how they compare? Ex. road noise and range? Kind regards

[@malcolmhedges7346]

@@MrBenj0219 I guess my high level statement is that it is very obvious that the Tesla is built by a company that is focussed on EV's whereas both the BMW and the VW have issues that relate to the manufacturers legacy ICE history. That has it's upsides and downside. In your position I'd consider a number of questions, mainly centred around what do you want this car for ? Quite a disparate choice, I can't stand SUV's and would never consider one so the ID.4 is out for for me, I'd love BMW to build a proper EV 5 series touring , but that's me. The Tesla replaced a Cayman GTS. I'd always thought I'd get a BMW M3 as a practical performance car before EV's so for me the Model 3 is a practical performance car. I went for the LR Dual Motor (my wife was a bit shocked by the acceleration of the performance) and fitted KW springs and Mountain Pass Performance rear camber arms. These were installed and set up by a specialist workshop. I also bought 19" wheels from The New Aero to replace the stock 18's. I might buy the performance (software upgrade). The car corners flatter, rides lower (good for aero) turns into a corner much sharper for no loss of ride comfort, if anything it's improved. It's good fun if you want to push it a bit. When we want to go on a long trip it's spacious and comfortable, the supercharger network is the best in the business, it's the cheapest (in the UK and EU), it's integrated properly into the software to make journeys easier than in an ICE (no dealing with Italian self service petrol pumps that won't take your credit card). Our 830 mile drive to Italy takes no longer than in a 520d we owned perviously. Great efficiency + decent size battery + fast charging = quick journey times. The Taycan pulls the same trick but it's nav is not quite there yet, no plug and charge etc. The VW drives like a VW, if you like VW's you'll like this car. Compared to the Tesla the software is awful, I can see why less patient people would reject the car. It does not show you where the EV charging station are en route but it does show you the petrol stations. The Taycan and e-Tron both have similar legacy ICE issues, they'll tell you to take the car in to change the engine oil. The ID.3 is rear wheel drive, fairly tidy and you can get it a little loose at the back but the electronics soon bring it back in. Steering is overly light for me and lacks feel, the driving modes seem to make no difference to that at all (rumoured that will be coming in a software update). It's a much smaller car than the Tesla, tighter turning circle, hatchback, very roomy inside for the outside space (advantages of a bespoke bed platform. If the majority of your driving is in you local area, shopping etc then it's a good choice (when they've sorted the software). I'd struggle to drive this car to Italy, it would take a lot longer due to it's smaller battery, slower charging, smaller charging network and in the winter woeful inefficiency (summer its efficiency is comparable to the model 3). It's our 2nd car, our daily driver, it's fine for that. The i4, I'm not sure I'd buy it on looks alone but that is of course subjective. Hard to comment as no one has driven it yet but I have been underwhelmed by BMW's EV's of late, I'm more of a fan of the bespoke EV platform than the compromise of shoving an EV drivetrain in an ICE platform.I'm sure it will be built beautifully, but when I looked it seemed very expensive. It will be interesting to see if Tesla improve their build quality (mine has had no issues) when they start manufacturing in Berlin. They have hired the head of quality control from Merc. The 4680 cells and single stamp construction elements will cut their cost of production, plus lower delivery costs. They'll either drop the price, increase the margin or a combination of both. A cheaper, better built Tesla will be a tempting proposition.

[@dominolehmann8227]

And this is only around 0° and not a californian manufacturer ^^ Thx for the honest test.

[@uktechie8013]

All the best Chris ⚡️⚡️⚡️👍🏼

[@R0bb1e.]

hi Chris happy new year..

[@Jeroenneman]

Just 200km? Ouch. Charging every one and a half hours then for long trips. -Edit: just saw your review of the 77kWh battery. Now 350km at highway speed is much better!

[@jimmatulevich98]

You just answered my question

[@holzi2k]

This is huge , would love that for every EV . Thanks!

[@haselhofler]

How is this huge? Irony? The consumption is pretty bad...

[@holzi2k]

@@haselhofler Sorry. Talking about this Kind of Video. To be able to compare Winter range. Consumption is not great.

[@haselhofler]

@@holzi2k ahh gotcha. Yeah the video got a thumbs up from me too, of course :)

[@POTThaesslich]

That’s better than the 3 hours ;)

[@justinholding02]

Interesting, I didn't think the cold temperatures would have that much influence. This weekend I did 1100 kms in my ID.3, a mixture of main roads and motorways, I averaged 16.2 KW/h /100 km which I thought was great!

[@alexrobertdevereux4100]

Hi. Thanks for the videoes u post. I've been following ur progress as i am also thinking about getting an id.3. In the near future. Do u drive the 58kw model as i am thinking of getting the new 45 kw model thats just been released from VW. I might have to rethink that since u shown us that 200 km. Range is not bad but nok great...but keep up the good work...👍👍

[@sokolsokol5603]

The range is tragic unless you only drive around the city and its close vicinity. Not a mature car for Central European climate. Maybe a good car for Malta or Sicily or Baleares.

[@thomaseriksson3182]

Nice channel i find!👍 Very good reviews of the car. In my case i choose between id3 life or peugeot e-2008 active.. have you test drive Peugeot e-2008? I want the most quiet car to drive🤣 your opinion?

[@BatteryLife]

Peugeot did not give me any cars yet.

[@mn5655]

Nice test. Would be interesting to see what would be range if you drove at your average speed from beginning. So, instead of driving say 133 in beginning, you drive 125 consistently without slowing down

[@12alocin]

Chris, how are you getting on with the very sensitive buttons next to the touch screen?

[@BatteryLife]

I am ok with them. I very rarely press them by accident. Only when I am filming.

[@fjph8826]

Thanks for all the testing. You don't have a heatpump am I right, do you really miss it in winter times or not?

[@BatteryLife]

No heatpump. Would be more range with it.

[@fjph8826]

@@BatteryLife thanks, any idea how much? For what I have found out max 15-25km or so. In that case I don't really see the point of having a heatpump for only wintertime. What's your opinion?

[@dejanimp5943]

Hello great test, please tell me something.Did you getting Ionity pass or whenever any packet for cheaper charging when you purchase your ID3...

[@BatteryLife]

I have 2000 kWh free. Soon gone.

[@dejanimp5943]

@@BatteryLife Only...For the first adopter that's really small gift,how many km you reach with 2.000kwh...I heard that VW in Usa for ID4 give 3 years of free charging.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@dejanimp5943 In money it is 600 EUR. P.S. it is kW*h, not kW/h

[@piotreksz5713]

You make cool movies. Do you know what happens to your battery (in VW Id.3) when you drive a lot the charge level drops below 15%, 10 or 5%? I mean, is the degradation bigger and why?

[@BatteryLife]

I know that the battery would prefer it if I did not fast charge it that much and not drive under 10%. But I am leasing for 3 years.

[@TomNyon]

it was -41 in north of Finland a few days ago, you should have done a range test there :)

[@BatteryLife]

Or at antarctica!

[@Guitarlover948]

Why was the interior temperature as high as 24C while the seat heating is on? It just makes the driver tired and consumes the battery unnecessarily.

[@BatteryLife]

Because I don't want to be cold. I like it warm and comfy

[@terza98]

Quite nice testing. Even I live in Finland, I use seat heater only to get seat warm (5 to 10 min max). Does not make sense to make your butt sweaty (And based on some studies using seat heaters may affect your abilities to have children). Seems that VAG offers heat pumps almost in all electric cars (VW, Skoda) sold in Finland, which makes sense due our climate. Suggestion: Could we see comparison chart between different tests you have made. Target speed, temperature and distance you were able to do.

[@BatteryLife]

There is a spreadsheet in the descriotion, but since I do not get many cars to test, I only have the summer tests.

[@fald0]

Merry christmas to you too and happy new year! Have you by any chance found out how to turn off Traction control/ESP/ESC? Some say it's "burried in the menu system" but i can't find it. Cheers!

[@BatteryLife]

You cannot!

[@susihormon7821]

Worst case would have been....cold...no wallbox connected....defrost for 15 min and then start the trip. So 160 km is a safe travel distance with the little battery of 58 kWh. Thats why i will go to 99 kWh in a Ford...thats 300 km in Winter.

[@johnrenewable5289]

Hallo Chris Danke für das Video und deinen Test. Wenn ich den Winterverbrauch meines ID 3 mit demjenigen unseres Teslas M3 vergliche liegt er 10 bis 30 % höher. Dies wäre doch ein Grund die Wolfsburger daran zu erinnern, dass hier noch deutliches Verbesserungspotential vorhanden ist. Besonders stoßend finde ich den Umstand, dass der Akku bei Temperaturen unter 8 Grad immer aufheizt. Beim Einsatz auf Kurzstrecken können so Verbräuche von 35 kWh/ 100 km entstehen. Der Fahrer sollte auswählen können ob der Akku jetzt geheizt werden soll oder nicht. Mit sonnigen Grüssen John

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Am besten zumindest im Eco Modus die Aufheizung rausnehmen, wenn man nur Brötchen holt, da erwartet man auch nicht die volle Performance!

[@karl-heinzoehling483]

Richtig. Nextmove hat gezeigt, dass die Aufheizung des Akkus minimal ist! Ehrlich gesagt, ist mir nicht klar, was sich die VW-Entwickler davon versprechen. Gerade auf Kurzstrecken, liegt der Vorteil eines E-Autos, was aber mit der Akkuheizstrategie total vermasselt wird. Bei meinem ID.3 1Plus mit der SW0570, kann ich mit Heizung off, die Akkuheizung nahezu ausschalten und dann liegt auch der Kurzstreckenverbrauch im Normalrahmen. Eine Heizung im Winter auszuschalten, liegt aber nicht im Sinne des Erfinders. Bei meinen bisherigen drei i3s-BMWs, war eine solche Akkuheizstrategie nicht appliziert und der Akku, zeigt eine sehr gute Lebensdauer bzw. sehr geringe Degradation.

[@olaflanfermann7343]

Hello Chris, "Sometimes faster than 130 in Eco". I think I remember, that the drive settings in Eco are not Eco if you start the car. So, if you start in Eco and go on the motorway there is no speed limit. Once you switched to comfort or sport and you swich back to eco the limit is at 130. Strange and annoying. I never tested this. At least in the old software version it was that way.

[@BatteryLife]

Maybe it is not in Eco then.

[@olaflanfermann7343]

@@BatteryLife Well, it is shown as Eco. So it is a mistake. Hopefully that changed in 783. I´ll wait for the version ME 2.1. ;-)

[@nga319]

du stehst draußen, dein rücklicht brennt und die heizung läuft. wie geht das? wenn ich aussteige ist alles aus. oder hast du deinen gurt eingeklickt? ansonsten klasse infos. abo geht klar.

[@BatteryLife]

Zündung einschalten ;) Zeige es sogar im Video.

[@nga319]

@@BatteryLife du steigst aus, und drückst dann den startknopf! bei min 13:07 hab ich es eben entdeckt👍

[@zerotoninemusic5957]

Hi, thanks for your video’s. I have a question. They delivered my id3 and i have to say it lives up to what your video’s are conveying. Much appreciated. The question is when will Apple Wireless Carplay come to the ID-3 update. Spoke with a dealer but he said it will take months before it comes. Also he said it is not an online update but a visit to the dealer is necessary, and will take days. So when will wireless carplay for ios be available and when will updates be available via the app iso a visit to the dealer? If you like it i can share my first thoughts of the ID3, let me know if that would be appreciated.

[@BatteryLife]

Me2.0 already has aaple car play, but only get that update when you have major problems. Me2.1 will roll out in January to March. You will be contacted by the dealer or VW. This is the final starting software for thw Id.3. Everything in there. Including OTA updates. Update takes 8 hours when the dealer is prepating everything before you arrive.

[@zerotoninemusic5957]

@@BatteryLife thanks for your quick reply, will contact the dealer, keep the videos coming! Maybe a thought to make a video of the different dynamic rear light animation, there are 2 option, your video showed only one i believe. What i immediately noticed just like when i got my passat gte variant 5 years ago, is that the headlights are fogged up a bit on the inside. Is this going to be gone soon, also on the left ledstrip on the front the moisture can be seen clearly at night when the leds are on, it appears darker on the fogged up parts, you would expect continuous led brightness along the whole led strip the one between the headlighs and the vw logo on the bonnet.

[@zerotoninemusic5957]

Another question i have is, the we connect id app only shows the charging and heating state, but does it show the kilometers avg, consumption etc like the app of the Golf 8?

[@sokolsokol5603]

This corresponds with my own testing. I started the ride with 90% charged battery, average speed 95km per hour (mostly highway at 120km per hour plus some city and smaller roads), no A/C, outside temperature 4 degrees. I would go 220-230 km in total. Way too low for a main car in the family. Comically low compared to WLTP 420 km range....

[@BatteryLife]

wltp is not winter, winter tires, heat. That is normal for every EV. And especially when driving 130 kmh. You cannot expect that!

[@sokolsokol5603]

@@BatteryLife This is understood but still the difference is too big. WLTP is misleading for BEV cars.

[@jesupojk]

Nit-picking... but seat heater on. 500-600W out the Window. Our should i say, up your... behind. Great test any ways. Thx

[@BatteryLife]

But I needed it!

[@raphi25895]

Seat Heaters have usually a 30A fuse so max 360W

[@ramunasgudauskas7582]

But it still doesn't consume that much. Not even two hours. That's at best 5km, probably 3.

[@teslakiller6959]

@@raphi25895 360W?! No, max 100W-150W.

[@raphi25895]

@@teslakiller6959 to heat up the power consumption is higher (around 300w for both seats), therefore a maximum of 360W for both seats because of the 30A Fuse. Is the seat heating warm it needs around 100W for both seats.

[@Seemples]

I think you're being a bit harsh regarding it not being efficient in winter.If you did the exact test with other EV's, most would struggle to get good figures, apart from the Tesla M3. I bet the ID3 would easily beat the Polestar 2 for instance for efficiency in those conditions,I have no figures to back this up, but on what I have read and seen in videos the ID3 is a pretty good efficient car.

[@justus6564]

I think up to 120 km/h the consumption is ok. When you drive faster the car is getting thirsty, but that's physics.

[@terza98]

Assuming you are from Finland, in winter you drive only max 100 km/h on highway, so it will also affect positively to driving distance.

[@MacGyver3103]

Hat der SchuKo-Stecker vom Ladekabel des ID.3 einen Thermoschutz? Schaltet er ab, wenn der Stecker zu warm wird damit der mit der Dose/Kupplung nicht verschmilzt?

[@BatteryLife]

Keine Ahnung. Lädt nur mit 10A. Maximale zulässige Dauerlast an deutschen Schukosteckdosen. 2,2 kW. War auch im September bei 30 Grad nie warm.

[@MacGyver3103]

Hab ich schon oft gesehen, auch bei 10A dauerlast, selbst bei steckdosen von waschmaschinen und kleinen poolheizern mit 2 KW, dass die steckdosen samt steckern völlig weggebruzzelt sind.. wäre schon wichtig so ein thermoschutz finde ich.. na ich kann ja nächste woche fragen wenn mein id.3 kommt..

[@Jaultaub]

So do you have the heat pump for range optimization in your model?

[@BatteryLife]

No. Was also mentioned in the video ;)

[@Jaultaub]

@@BatteryLife Thanks for your reply, you mentioned something about that in the end but my english is not that good sorry I did not get it! Happy new year from Austria!

[@HabeebMasadeh]

which id3 version is this, what battery and how many hp?

[@menczyn]

Hi, how does that look like from cost perspective? Here (UK) fast charge cost £0,40 so if I multiply that by 25kwh which you got from your test, it gives me £10 per 100km…that’s a poor efficiency. My Volvo takes now 5,5l per 100km so it cost me £8,25 to cover 100km. What am I missing???

[@BatteryLife]

You are only missing that 95% of the time you charge at home for way less. And in the UK you don't drive 130 km/h on the highway. ;)

[@ramunasgudauskas7582]

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[@teslakiller6959]

Marry Christmas Chris. 3-5kW for the PTC? That is a lot for a warm car. I wonder why the ID3 heat pump is not much more effective.

[@BatteryLife]

I think it heats the battery as well.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

I would like to know under which exact circumstances VW has gotten a 30 % range increase, making the heatpump a recommended item for twice the price of the competition...

[@teslakiller6959]

@@abraxastulammo9940 At "VW" usual conditions...i.e. cheating.

[@karl-heinzoehling483]

@@abraxastulammo9940 The heatpump has no range impact. Nextmove has tested it. What a VW-application!

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@karl-heinzoehling483 (Re)watch the Battery Life heatpump vs. no heatpump test, it makes a difference.

[@jimmatulevich98]

Do the ID-3 and ID-4 utilized heat pumps for heating?

[@BatteryLife]

If you order it, of course.

[@antonthompson7838]

The ID.3 in Britain has a heat pump as a option which is £1,250, as for the ID.4 it will be a option on some trims but standard on higher spec models, that goes for all of Europe.

[@jimmatulevich98]

@@antonthompson7838 I hope I have the same option here in te states.

[@johnvestrum3991]

@@jimmatulevich98 For the US ID.4 there will be no heat pump, not even as an option :/. Canadian model will have it though.

[@jimmatulevich98]

@@johnvestrum3991 Thanks John. I'm beginning to wonder about the ID-4, no heat pump and no augmented reality in USA, should I trade my Leaf for it?

[@gianlucaorlando5471]

has the heat pump 3kW of consumption or the normal resistance?

[@BatteryLife]

No heatpump in my car.

[@maxshreck8353]

Which version are you testing? What is the battery size?

[@BatteryLife]

58 kWh, First edition plus

[@maxshreck8353]

@@BatteryLife Viele Danke! I live in Portugal, which has a much warmer climate so I suppose that that should give me some extra range. I'm pointing towards the 77KWh battery model. 350KM range in the Autobahn is more than enough for me.

[@timwoitke4286]

Sehr interessant☝🏻 vielleicht wird es ja auch noch mal kälter, -10 grad wäre auch sehr interessant.👍🏻

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Battle of the heatpumps, ID.3 final initial SW release vs. Tesla Model 3 2021. 👍

[@BatteryLife]

Not very likely in my region.

[@logant6490]

My brother has had an id3 for about 3 weeks, his first ev. Although he rates the cars quality, he says range impact completely destroys your ability to enjoy the cars performance. Also, he says its extremely heavy and handles like a boat on twisty roads. Rather disappointed.

[@BatteryLife]

Everybody is different.

[@timmallett4698]

I have an ID.3 and it drives well. Its acceleration is very good and it corners well. No problems so far charging it up once per week from my home zappi charger.

[@jounivalkonen]

This is just ridiculous consumption compared to Tesla model 3 or even Tesla Model Y, if you think that Model 3 is a lower profile car. Tesla model 3 should go at those speeds and temperatures below 21 kWh per 100 km. Nearly 28 kWh per 100 km is just nuts.

[@geoffdale8515]

Any chance you could test in similar circumstances but with a heat pump?

[@BatteryLife]

If I get a car with a heatpump. Yes!

[@zamarinen]

Does any model of ID.3 have heatpump?

[@XTpF4vaQEp]

Yes. In some countries it’s standard. As it is in my ID.3 in Sweden.

[@zamarinen]

@@XTpF4vaQEp same, also swede. a bit wierd germany dont have it tho

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@zamarinen VW forced the initial buyers to order the most expensive version of the ID.3 if they wanted a heatpump.

[@teslakiller6959]

@timemachine_194 I doubt it will be 15% more range, especially on the highway. It doesn't seem to be that more efficient. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJeQmp6wZdylotU

[@dercapndirk]

@timemachine_194 The one advantage and my reason for buying the heat pump with my ID.3 Tech is the cooling fluid which is much more environmental friendly.

[@Isanniel]

In Sweden the Id.3 comes with the heat pump as standard.

[@BatteryLife]

I know. All northern european countries got the heatpump.

[@Vercixx]

It's thirsty compared to what car?

[@abraxastulammo9940]

See a comparison at kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYi2n5xrYqyBpZIm46s

[@BatteryLife]

Many others. Model 3, Kona, Ioniq. I did my RaCoBe Test in October. Check that video.

[@Vercixx]

@@abraxastulammo9940 I don't see a consumption comparison and I don't know if the cars were driven in similar conditions.

[@netsraccjf3965]

Du sagst youtube ist quasi Dein Beruf, aber Du hast gerademal 10300 Abonnenten ? Kann man damit schon Geld verdienen oder hast Du noch einen anderen Kanal ?

[@abraxastulammo9940]

Man kann Geld verdienen über die Werbeeinblendungen/Monetarisierung und Spenden im Livechat, das muss ja nicht heissen, dass man davon leben kann oder auch nur die Bilanz der aufgewendeten Ressourcen/Zeit positiv sein muss. ;-)

[@netsraccjf3965]

@@abraxastulammo9940 Ok ich dachte halt nur man müsste deutlich mehr Abonnenten haben das sich youtube auch lohnt. Ich fahre auch gerne Auto und mein derzeitiger Beruf erfüllt mich nicht gerade, von daher bewundere ich diese Leute die sich damit ihr Leben aufbauen !

[@thedatroxde]

@@netsraccjf3965 Ach, das wird schon. Einfach seiner Leidenschaft folgen, der Rest kommt ganz von selbst. Guten Rutsch :)

[@netsraccjf3965]

@@thedatroxde Ebenso ! :-)

[@teslakiller6959]

Die Abo Zahlen sind egal. Was zählt sind die Views. Du kannst schon mit 1€-5€ pro 1000 Views rechnen. Er hat auch Patreon und LiveStream und Donations. Ich glaube da kommt schon eine gute Summe zusammen.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

So...winter consumption is exactly 30 % more?

[@Psi-Storm]

No, you use around 4 kWh/h on heating. So a 2 hour drive reduces your usable battery from 56 kWh to 48 kWh. There is some additional losses in the battery on cold temperature but on a long drive at 130 km/h those should warm up within a reasonable time frame. Heating is front loaded, maintaining a temperature uses much less energy than heating the car up. So on short drives to and from work every day your consumption could be even higher than 30% more. On long range it's probably closer to 15%, even less if you can preheat the car with grid power instead of battery.

[@903lew]

@@Psi-Storm The air also gets much more dense at low temperatures effecting wind resistance. One must also take tires into consideration, I use studded winter tires which effects rolling resistance quite a bit.

[@paulbrown4850]

118 miles on a full charge that’s absolutely terrible 😢

[@BatteryLife]

In the winter at 130 km/h very acceptable. Summer 287km.

[@frwewer]

Wer ist denn das dort auf dem VW Pressefoto? ecomento.de/2021/01/04/vw-glaeserne-manufaktur-soll-mehr-elektroautos-ausliefern/

[@BatteryLife]

Walter und ich. Sehr fesch!

[@antonthompson7838]

The car industry needs battery technology that doesn’t get affected by cold weather, or bigger range. There are many other battery technologies that we already know about, and by the middle of this decade we could see 1000km range batteries that charge in 5 minutes.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

For a 1000 km range you would probably need 130 kWh. To charge 80 % of this amount in 5 minutes you would require a 1250 kW charger to charge the battery at 10 C. Will we be there by the middle of the decade?

[@datsound7]

solid batteries is the solution

[@antonthompson7838]

@@abraxastulammo9940 There are lots of companies making big waves in battery technology, some have made lithium ion batteries with carbon nanotubes. Volkswagen have invested $300 million in a battery start up called QuantumScape along with Bill Gates and Continental, to bring solid state batteries to their fleet in 2024 for their more premium brands such as Bugatti, Lamborghini, Bentley Porsche and Audi. Then in 2026 a 20gWh factory will come on stream, before full scale batteries from QuantumScape begin in 2028 just in time for Volkswagen’s wholesale switch to electric power. The solid state batteries have a 50% increase in energy density over conventional EV batteries at 1000 Watt hours per litre which is about 4 times more than what the Tesla Model 3 can store. A car with solid state batteries will be 30% lighter than normal batteries, and be able to travel 1000km between charging and charge much faster. Toyota has been working on solid state batteries and says they will be ready to go next year.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

@@antonthompson7838 Ok, but Quantumscape only showed charge times just under 15 minutes last time I checked.

[@antonthompson7838]

@@abraxastulammo9940 Good point, I read something about 5 minutes charging, let me check and I will get back to you!