VW ID7 driving REVIEW - Model 3 competitor with more space than Model S ?

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

I love how Thomas / other German reviews can give Metric and Imperial figures on the fly and without fuss or complaining unlike a typical American reviewer that struggles to give anything other than American system, they say it's too hard, or you can work it out yourself or simply ignores anything exists outside America, outstanding German / Thomas efficiency 👍👍

[@autogefuehl]

Highly appreciated! Always trying to give the best service for everyone

[@krane15]

Keep in mind that Europe is a collection of many different countries. The U.S. sits alone and borders a total of two.

[@krane15]

That's why even though I'm in the U.S. and many of the cars he reviews we don't even get, I still subscribe.

[@adamore8371]

Well, it is not particularly rocket science, quick basic math and element of preparation too.

[@-PORK-CHOP-]

@@adamore8371 Exactly, so why can't the US reviewers do this, after all most of the vehicles in the US the rest of the world gets the same one.

[@sajti83]

Thomas always colour-coordinates his attire to the car he is reviewing. That is dedication right there and attention to detail. :D

[@autogefuehl]

highly appreciated! Always trying the best if possible =) (when I know the color before)

[@michaelschneider-]

@sajti83.. +1.. Herr Thomas & crew are the automotive KZbin Gold Standard.. Right down to the host's matching color of attire.. Devil is in the details.. When/should we delve into an EV, it will German..

[@WoTjolly]

This car shouldn't be compared to the model 3, it's way bigger and in costs almost 20 thousand euros more

[@Abebe345]

Why not compare it to the MY for the price?

[@QH96]

20k more is crazy

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

It's more comparable to the BMW i4

[@sillybananayt5467]

Yep, its more of a MY, I4 competitor

[@ram64man]

Yep this actual has a proper interior while Tesla are taking every opportunity to remove what every driver has taken for granted the only good thing for Tesla is a 0-60 before you can sneeze and the network in the USA

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

Frunk is a non issue. Not required for me

[@maxtheflyingdutchman23]

It's not solely to protect against rain, but to facilitate more freedom of cable positioning regardless of whether the charger is in front or behind the car. At least, that is what makes sense to me

[@autogefuehl]

Maybe also that

[@kirillpetrovsky5830]

Yep, when the cable is pulled to its length, it can start pushing against the charging flap. And this setup solves it.

[@Mrdezmiki]

Good point.

[@blondiebxl]

Finally they get it right. So many EV's still use the old ICE-logic for pulling up next to a gas pump, but EV-chargers are often in front or behind the cars and you pull into them.

[@SamuelHauptmannvanDam]

I think people who buy this car, buys it for comfort and familiarity. And I'm sure it's okay. But it still feels like something is wrong. It's not a nice looking car, inside and outside. Piano plastic, weird wheels and front. It feels like it isn't coherent? There overall design language for their cars looks like they want to eat the Michelin man.

[@eduardpopescu3952]

As a ID4 GTX owner I think that the frunk is a nice story, but nothing more...

[@fido5067]

It looks like a big polo, Vw design is so boring.

[@jonpetter8921]

Clearly better than the Tesla dry design lol

[@stennordenmalm9900]

Great reviuw as always! This EV ticks all the boxes for me, and is way ahead of Tesla M3. Good work VW.

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

Yes, this is a real car.

[@tissot233]

I am not really getting the comparison to Tesla 3. Tesla here in the Nordics starts from 42 900 eur, while ID7 starts from 58 800 eur. They are on price so far away from each other and almost in different segments. People are shopping between ID3, ID4, Tesla 3 and soon EX30 that broke some preorder records here for EVs - not ID7.

[@autogefuehl]

15:41

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

Also, these are real cars instead of just being acceleration toys that only just hold together.

[@izzetkstr]

As someone that has been driving a polestar 2 for a couple months, a frunk is very nice and usefull, i would pay a little extra to have one, however it's not a dealbreaker. The thing with the frunk is I usually have a lot of stuff just laying in my trunk(under trunk) Stuff like screwdrivers, charging cable(you never use it if you charge home), car cleaning products, cloth,... If you have a frunk to put those in you always have a nice and empty trunk which i really love.

[@FlavorFusionFiesta]

I had the opportunity to sit and see the Volkswagen ID 7 Pro at the car show in Munich, and my review is as follows: a lot of hard plastic, the cockpit is soft only in the upper part, while everything else is hard plastic. There's a lot of hard plastic on the doors. It's a shame that it has a rod on the engine hood instead of cylinders, and it's a shame that it lacks rear disc brakes, using drums instead. VW made a lot of cost-cutting for this car, and the showroom price was 75,000 euros. It's not worth that money. It's a pity that those who give reviews are paid to speak only the best about cars, and no one gives an honest review of the car. It's better to get a new Skoda Superb diesel or petrol, which is better made, has comfort, better build quality, has disc brakes, cylinders on the hood, and can cover over 900 km. Plus, it's at least 20,000 euros cheaper with a good equipment package.

[@michaels3003]

Stop that "being paid" nonsense...

[@FlavorFusionFiesta]

@@michaels3003 Go to the VW dealership and see for yourself. Don't create a scene here. I know what I saw and what kind of car this is. I don't know who'd be foolish enough to buy it. What a waste of money on this car

[@autogefuehl]

15:41

[@camilstoenescu]

The interior seems definitely more ergonomic and useful than that of Model 3.

[@hardywoodaway9912]

cannot say anything what’s not ergonomic about a model 3 tbh. Very easy car to live with, easier than the VW products I head

[@myemailiscool]

@@hardywoodaway9912 the blinkers being touch buttons on the steering wheel is ergonomic? Having to swipe on the touch screen to go into gear is ergonomic?

[@Clinkety]

@@myemailiscool There is an 'Auto Shift out of Park' feature that fixes that.

[@krane15]

Its till riddled with cheat bit that constantly remind you its cheap. Like front/rear window switches. In you fact cost saving measure. So you're remind of it every time you drive your car.

[@comahon2000]

Don’t think this is comparable to Tesla Model 3. Especially RWD standard range which is an absolute bargain compared to any similar German made EV. German manufacturers need to reduce their EV prices or get left behind.

[@autogefuehl]

15:41

[@AncientGD]

The back seat and trunk space are impressive.❤

[@MikeSieko17]

that is one ugly touchscreen and software yuck

[@OhMyLaurens]

The frunk for me isn't essential as a storage option per se, all I need is a place to store the charging cables, med kit and tire repair gubbins. Stuff you rarely need (if home charging is available) but it just takes up space in the boot. So all in all, yes, but a tiny one is fine. Casestudies would be the Volvo EX30 or ioniq 5. They are even a bit large. Always appreciated anyhow.

[@willielarsson9651]

I dont understand why manufacturers have charging connectors in the same location as fossil fuel cars. Ev cars really need charger connections at the front

[@grandtourerpt]

Frunk is nice for charging cables and would be great if other items were there like the air compressor, warning triangle and so on. I only use the charging cable on road trips where the trunk might be full of bags and it's nice to have a separate compartment for it, cable might be dirty or wet as well. Under the floor of the boot is not practical to store cables

[@jannovotny6046]

exactly, the floor of the trunk is not accessible when you have the trunk full of items. Frunk is the only reasonable option for cables, otherwise you have to put them somewhere else but not into the floor of the trunk

[@autogefuehl]

►Subscribe here: kzbin.info ►Also subscribe to our KZbin shorts channel: kzbin.info/door/mKVmuPc9wUlLuuhnIeP7_w ►Follow us on Facebook / Instagram / TikTok @autogefuehl 00:00 VW ID7 vs Tesla Model 3? 00:56 Length and fastback style 01:48 Pro vs Pro S kWh battery 02:27 Welcome light show 03:02 Fast charging times 04:04 VW ID7 Tourer (Estate) 05:18 Interior: key, doors, steering 06:29 Ergo seats and comfort 08:17 Cockpit and user interface 09:10 Infotainment and features 10:09 CarPlay 10:27 EU speed warning 11:08 DCC adaptive suspension 12:03 14-speaker harman kardon 12:22 Storage 13:04 Rear seats 14:08 Electrochromic glass roof 14:42 Frunk? 15:01 Trunk / boot 15:41 ID7 price vs Tesla 17:08 Driving ID7 Pro RWD: Comfort 18:30 Acceleration and RWD fun 22:23 Motorway acceleration and driving 26:18 Lane keeping and travel assist 28:04 Driving fun 29:04 Real-world range ID7 vs Model 3 30:29 Would I recommend or buy one? 31:14 VW ID7 vs Tesla Model 3 Highland #VW #VWID7 Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.

[@puppet-head]

Not at that price, they are having a laugh.

[@autogefuehl]

15:41

[@Krylle]

A frunk is essential on trips, so charging cables and car care products, and so on, don't mess with the luggage. Not the ultimate deal breaker, but pretty nice. So is 100% one pedal driving. I really don't understand, why most legacy automakers are not at least giving people a choice. It's so old fashioned thinking and very stupid.

[@Hashbrowniepie]

Seems decent. Shame about the capacitive BS

[@josefv-y8m]

They will remove them in future (hopefully in any future facelift)...was too late for the project. The new Passat does not have this touch buttons as announced by the CEO.

[@davedooney8473]

I really like the styling and estate looks great too but VW really need to put an Arteon grade interior into models like this, so a nice big digital gauge cluster straight in front of you for google maps etc and a multimedia screen actually integrated into the dash instead of the stuck on ipad, that's what people at this price point want instead of fancy looking but useless external light bars!

[@joaocastro2177]

I still don't understand why no car brand has yet thought of putting a spare tire in the front trunk. Since a large percentage of electric cars don't come with a spare tire, but with a kit 😞 I think most people put the charging cables in the rear trunk. I wonder if no one has ever thought of that

[@axel-11]

It's called Lada Niva, and this position of a spare wheel in front trunk caused some unpleasant effects in case of collision... But maybe its that particular solution that was suboptimal.

[@Astke]

Are you going to engineer that it A:fits and B: passes crash tests.

[@joaocastro2177]

@@Astke And why not, I don't see what the difficulty would be

[@caiolinnertel8777]

The “Fronk” isn’t necessary, and it looks as if VW made that area small so the interior is large which is much preferred. It’s a very short bonnet and there’d be no way to make a “Fronk” very usable. Seems well engineered.

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

Yes, it's a design decision to maximize cabin space.

[@nickbien]

considering you were driving the ID.7 in the rain, with bigger tires and at higher speeds, the range is still impressive.

[@autogefuehl]

Fine with it yeah. Could be better but also harsh conditions. Still well done

[@Saddex]

​@@autogefuehlwith the bigger battery it should be more than enough for most people.

[@elliex20]

I really like both the sedan and wagon versions. Beautiful car IMO. Too bad it is too expensive. Nice infotainment, hope it is stable.

[@krane15]

Which EV like it isn't too expensive?

[@elliex20]

@@krane15 Exactly! Compared to other EVs, the car is priced right. However, all EVs are too expensive right now. Before, car manufacturers blamed the price of batteries for being high. But now batteries are much cheaper than they were 3 years ago and the prices keep falling every year. So, the battery reason is not a valid argument anymore.

[@BSquare1989]

In Belgium it starts from 66k...so it really isn't a competitor to a model 3 here.. I hope the other countries can get a better deal. This is overpriced

[@woodypwx]

This is a Model S competitor. What’s the Model S price?

[@jonpetter8921]

You are right because this has stalks, instrument cluster, bigger boot, roomier. And i dont even start with build quality, comfort.

[@vondry87]

It starts on 64k EUR in Czech Republic. And we have 60 % lower salaries so not very affordable.

[@autogefuehl]

I guess leasing rates will be lower than Model 3

[@minnguyen4872]

​@@autogefuehlthe thing is no one lease i can bet not 100% all ppl want to lease

[@Misp7423]

In this case, I would actually prefer the Sedan, just because the difference in boot capacity isn't too big, and it looks way better in my opinion and normally is a bit cheaper as well

[@swecreations]

There is no difference in looks, it's just a difference in how the boot is cut out. A hatchback/fastback cuts the boot into the rear glass, a sedan doesn't. Price difference is minimal.

[@maxs3153]

Definitely more space than in Model 3 but price wise…sedan which starts from 65k (in Italy)… way more expensive than Tesla Model 3… crazy prices for EV…

[@autogefuehl]

15:41

[@maxs3153]

@@autogefuehl everything cheaper in Germany😁… but Germany is not the whole World😀…in Italy VW doesn’t offer any discount e.g. Enyaq 80 u can buy for 52k same ID4 62-65k…leasing… i personally prefer to own smth instead of renting and paying “for the air”…anyway Tesla offers same leasing being 10k less expensive… faster… but smaller☺️ and why is leasing so popular? Because initial price is not affordable and aftermarket price is not predictable…anyway with leasing you will overpay in comparison to ICE vehicle (imho).

[@sakurazero3641]

If vw ould have put this same screen integrated it in the dash like in old golfs the interior would have been much better. Step up for them indeed but still way to go. But glad to see another kombi. It is mind blowing to me that there are so few of them and mostly suvs. As a team kombi person there will finally be another one out there.

[@enrage6073]

Nice, but I’ll wait for Skoda’s own version!

[@naivedreamer9088]

Thank you Thomas for the review, as always very informative:) But the Volkswagen ID Next for the Chinese market will be much more interesting in terms of interior design and especially the exterior, we are waiting for the show of this car:)

[@rallychamp2003]

Regarding RAIN on the French autoroute, the way I work it out is that if my wipers are on then my limit is 110 kph. If the wipers are only on intermittent or off then my limit is 130 kph. Not had a single speeding ticket since 1995 (Spain).

[@autogefuehl]

👍

[@CycoWarriorx]

That front headlight reminds me of the aliens in “The War of the Worlds”… other than that, it’s a nice looking, much more expensive “competitor” to the model 3… 😏🍻

[@fritsch23]

14:52 Owning an Enyaq Coupe vRS, I have not missed the frunk so far. My wallbox at home has its own attached cable, if I use a HPC the cable is attached as well, so the only scenario where I need the cable from within the car is for public AC charging. Skoda has solved this quite nicely, with the AC cable being in a dedicated bag fitting perfectly into the left trunk "pocket", which in most scenarios is still accessible even if you have your trunk loaded with some stuff.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks for the feedback!

[@lambgoeswoof]

It seems that Honda and Mazda are the only car markers who still know how to make a proper interior with luxuries like buttons and knobs. So many in the industry didn’t bother to think that maybe there’s a difference between tapping a mobile phone screen while sitting versus tapping an infotainment display as your car hurtles down the highway at 70+ MPH. Like, one device is gently nestled in your palm while your thumb calmly navigates the UI while the other is at the end of your arm’s reach as your finger jostles around. Nobody in their right mind would ever use a smartphone if they had to use it like we use these “smart” car displays.

[@batfromapokolips8765]

LMAO, luxurious Honda😂

[@yissibiiyte]

Hyundai/Kia are also good in that regard. They seem to be the only manufacturer not trying to pretend that severe cost-cutting is "minimalism" or "premium"

[@hardywoodaway9912]

lol, yeah wonder how long Hobda and mazda are still in business

[@stennordenmalm9900]

Agree to that. But Genesis interiors are no 1 imo

[@ColonelSternlove]

Awful interiors in Honda and Mazda. Despite the nicely designed climate unit, the interior looks 10 years too late

[@igormac88]

I guess that besides the big sedans like S-Class/7-Series/A8, this is the 'regular car' that best accomodated you at the back seat in many many times, or am I exaggerating? Also, VW did well with the front packaging, not shrinking it so much and getting it dispoportional like the Mercedes' EQE/EQS, but still opening more space at the interior

[@froggy0162]

The lack of a frunk is more about the engineering effort and care that’s gone into the design. With the inherent advantages an EV provides for packaging possibilities, it’s a bit lazy to not properly leverage that to provide a frunk.

[@clarasdk]

Would be a instant buy in the estate version to be my next car after my current Mercedes c200. But as it cant pull a caravan it is a no go for me :( I don't understand why VW cars cant pull anything when compared to Volvo, Mercedes and other electric cars..... I guess I will have to wait out the Polestar 4 or something else when I want to go electric.

[@thomasb3230]

You guys make awesome reviews! Keep up the good work 🤘🏻

[@jonathanbender4691]

Great video as usual. Nice styling - way better than the other ID range imo.

[@anadalet9885]

I really like this new id.7. It solved most of the problems of previous generations VW’s electric. This really looks like a premium car, has a large battery. I can’t wait for the Tourer model, especially with all wheel drive !

[@Cloxxki]

To get people out of their Passat, though...it's €22,000 more expensive I believe, and that's for a version that is slaughtered on long distance by the Koreans and Tesla. The basic Model S (I sound like a fanboy here) is just as roomy as the ID.7 Tourer in terms of liters and of course waaaayy faster on long trips and, well, idiotic drag races. 200+ liters smaller than a new Passat as well, that's a bit unfortunate. High floor I guess, and due to lazy German engineering, zero frunk where a Lucid air that's the same size has 280 liters of frunk and 40 kWh more battery. Not in the same price range, but Lucid just ACTUALLY tried making a good EV. VW on the other hand is great with steer help. Car Maniac said he didn't miss it though, the Lucid Air is just really nice to drive. I hope the bottom of the barrel version will soon arrive and somewhat compete on price with EQE, I4/I5, ID.7 and Model S. That Lucid Air will be RWD and have a deeper rear footwell from omitted battery modules there which I didn't know: is standard on all Taycans.

[@krane15]

Two words: range anxiety.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@Cloxxki you make fair points, but you also need to compare apples with apples. Model S, Lucid Air are 2 - 5 times more expensive then the ID7 which is competing with the Model3 and is one category bigger. I am eager to drive and compare - it's also how much can you use the space for yourself. The Passat Elegance does cost the same like the ID7 which are comparable not a big difference.

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

@@krane15 for which car ? the ID7? Where - I don´t see that

[@dharmeshghedia8808]

Shame it doesnt look more premium. Looks bland & boring, wheel design is shockingly poor.

[@Dkliptus]

Never got a ticket for cruising at 130 when raining (of course, unless it’s pouring rain).

[@miguel_abreu]

Finally a full electric station wagon 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@Klibabin]

Still kinda feels like VW doesn't know what they're doing. Especially price/quality wise they are still below what they used to be.

[@mehrajmohan173]

Nice flap up style of the charger lid

[@spaceghost3637]

The ID7 is probably the electric sedan to beat for the other car manufacturers.

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

Great review as ever. What strikes me is how slow VW is able to react to things it knows it has to change. We knew about VW (and Audi etc) software problems about five years ago. In this car as reviewed it still has not quite caught up with Tesla and others. VW have said for over a year that they want real buttons back, yet still can not deliver them for another year or so. Over those sorts of time lags loyal customers, of whom I was once one, are lost. Contrast this with almost any marque based East of - say - Athens or West of - say - Coventry. Many premium manufacturers look down on American marques for design and fleetness of market reaction. I would say both Ford and Stellantis are looking pretty nimble at the moment by comparison with VW.. That said this looks like a perfectly nice car if you like that sort of thing.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏

[@tissot233]

Considering the massive problems Ford is dealing with EV sales and bleeding money, and using VW Group's MEB platform I am not sure if they can be used as good examples of anything. Isn't Stellantis majority European owned considering Fiat Chrysler by far largest owner was Exor (Agnelli family) and I would imagine PSA was even more in European hands? But yeah VW really made huge plunder with software and Herbert Diess was at least part of the problem. For VW's sake ID2 should be here this year, but it will still take at least till 2025. outside of Tesla Volvo EX30 would be pefect example of car that will stirr the European market I would say in the coming 7 months. Coming from a company majority owned by Geely. VW Group, Mercedes and BMW will have their hands full for the next 2 years. Especially VW Group will want to build everything from software to the batteries totally by themself and they are already late. Scale is their thing and I of course understand the need on building all by themself. Especially for batteries and platforms. ID3 to ID5 are just not cutting it anymore.

[@noobwow2009]

VW people don't care. They starts at 8:00am. 1 hour breakfast coffee time. 3 hours works. 1 hour lunch. get off work at 3:00PM. It's going to take another 10 years to see the change.

[@michalklucz6907]

they won't catch tesla for a one reason. Tesla is building software, then cars. Every other manufacturer is still doing it in the old-school way. Software must serve the car. This generates a lot of problems for them. They want to kill two birds with one stone without hitting any in the result.

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

Ford have way fewer resources than VW, so have fewer options. What I think is impressive about Ford is how decisive they have been: adopting the MEB platform; paring back the model range; producing good EVs with a nod to the Tesla iPad stuck onto the dashboard; and battery investment. They also provide VW with their off road pick up trucks. You are right about Stellantis. I still think of Chrysler…. @@tissot233

[@ErvinKortsLaur]

M3 Comparison in intro was rather hilarious. One just needs to visit ID7 configuration page.

[@rich495]

Another great video Why in gods name do these manufacturers fit so much CHEAP/IMPRACTICAL GLOSS BLACK PLASTIC inside these cars? Ridiculous. Prices are insanely high too

[@SeeliLeck3r]

Servus Thomas, watching your reviews for a while now, always amazed by how pro and very straightforward you are. Definitely the best reviews 🙌😊 As a French (living in österreich seit 2021, Gruss Got Oida 😄), for the speed on the motorway, it's 130 km/h in dry conditions (as you said), when it's rainy, the rule is : as soon as you have to use the whippers, you have to slow down to 110km/h.... that's the rule, but you know French people, there's always room for personal interpretation 😅

[@dklap3388]

I just installed ID.4 ErgoActive seats in my ID.3, it’s a huge upgrade over the standard manual seats I had. However, these ID.7 seats are giving me wet dreams, they look extremely nice and comfortable. Oh well, can’t have it all. 😅

[@JurgenLahey]

Quick question on that upgrade, do you need to put extra wiring or were the necessary cables already there? I would consider the same upgrade on my ID.3 :-)

[@dklap3388]

⁠@@JurgenLahey yes had to add new cables, and also switch the airbags from my old seats (didn’t do any of this myself). The old manual seats only had one plug (for heat and airbag), while the new seats has 2 plugs. The new ones also has electrical adjustment, massage, memory and thigh support, and they offer so much more support than the old one. 😊 But it has been a long project, it’s not easy to find ErgoActive seats for sale, since not too many ID cars has been scraped yet. I think mine come from a ID.4 test vehicle. My backseats are also getting new fabric to match the new front seats, will get it installed tomorrow. As far as I know, the ID.4 backseats don’t fit in ID.3, so that became my solution. It looked really weird with the new front seats and the old ID.3 design in the backseats.

[@jessetuomi9588]

I have tesla model 3 and I have opened the frunk once this year. I have never used AC charging outside home, only DC fast charging on travels.

[@hardywoodaway9912]

good for you

[@hmmk4y]

Looking at this as a company lease car but unfortunately here in The Netherlands the ID7 is 20-30% more expensive to lease than the new Tesla Model 3 AWD Highland. And that's without factoring in that for the ID7 to be on the same level options wise (heated seats, heat pump and so on) you need to add around 3500 euros to the price which of course has an effect on the lease rate. List price in a similar configuration (color, options, etc.) is a difference of over 15k. Monthly rate I'm quoted is around €1100 for the Tesla vs around €1400 for the ID7..

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

Just wait for 3 months and you will see the prices on the same level for lease - it's just the initial wave being a new car.

[@BobBaumeister-g8v]

Jep but the ID7 is much bigger and has more premium options, so of course its more expenssive.

[@hmmk4y]

​@@BobBaumeister-g8v Yeah of course but in my opinion it doesn't make sense to compare the two or to claim that the lease price will be the same.

[@spencerpieters5502]

Interesting car. About to start a 3 year lease with a Model 3 Highland, which gives VW 3 years to fix all the ID.7’s issues and release the wagon version. 😊

[@fabiantukacs2751]

Want to have a Tesla 3 but VW for the price of the Tesla S Plaid and the quality of a Dacia Spring, then this is the car for you. The car in the video is around 75.000, you can get almost 2x tesla3 highlands for that price. You can take of course leasing rates with a 10% rate and with 10k km limit. I hope VW will be squeezed enough so that they go back building quality cars again.

[@williamdrijver4141]

Haptic touch buttons, touchscreen controls, stupid doorhandles, VW seems desperate to duplicate all of Tesla's mistakes. I've lost all interest in VW products. (Not to mention the EU spyware black box fitted).

[@cricho15]

The ID7 is once again one of those Volkswagens whose exterior design already says: "Life is too short for a VW". Thank God, because if the ID7 had had a great design, I would have been annoyed by this cheap and lousy slider user interface. So I just feel for the poor people in the VW factories who will lose their jobs because of such horrible products. Not because Tesla is so good (spoiler there are really things Tesla does well, but not many), but because everything VW has delivered since the Golf 7 is simply no longer buyable.

[@thescavwithnothingtolose1224]

I still have high hopes that the Tourer arrives in the US. They debuted the concept version in the US at the LA Auto Show a few years ago.

[@marcelguldemond2523]

Having a frunk isn’t critical for me. Especially If the maker frees up cabin space by making a smaller front area and putting HVAC systems in the front.

[@marcush2220]

Thomas, thanks for another great review 👌

[@autogefuehl]

🙏🙏

[@joejarvis2497]

This is a no-brainer. I’d buy this over any Tesla. Elon Musk causes too much damage to his brand. That isn’t responsible to his employees and investors.

[@noah30000]

I think Zeekr 001 is way better than ID. They both got a pretty similar price, but Zeekr has more power, larger battery, modern and premium interior.

[@alanizsak]

Excellent review as always Thomas!

[@Cogan1]

Absolutely insane that VW know everyone hates their terrible non haptic capacitive button wheel, but they refuse to change it even in the car that isn't out yet, choosing to wait until the next production model after this.

[@muthukumaranc]

In India, we, unfortunately, have no way of disabling the speed alarm unless you go the aftermarket route.

[@autogefuehl]

Oh wow

[@sg222]

Will there be a Skoda version of this model?😅

[@michlblacksmith]

Yes to the Frunk topic - nice review, nice car but way too expensive. Yes it has some nice features (IQ Light, trunk, seats,…) as you‘ve mentioned but please also mention for example the cost of all those mandatory services you have to do according to VW to not loose the car guarantee probably 500 to 600 Euros for each 15.000 km. Tesla 0 Euros for example. I would not mind paying 2.000 - 3.000 more when buying the car but in total 20.000 Euros+ more expensive compared to the competition = no thanks.

[@blackcat.19]

Nope 👎. I don’t care how cheap this VW is. Tesla is taking my money in 2024 model.

[@Krebs61]

Vw did it again, another soulless vehicle, would see me driving this thing if i was given one for free, new but already looks outdated, the review was awesome by the way

[@erikruggels9177]

Model 3? Meh. What about the IONIQ 6 as they both provide more room inside than the model 3. Please directly compare it to vehicles it’s sized in terms of dimensions and battery and range - to directly compete with as well 🤔

[@sun131089]

Yes vw finally ! Now just give us those knobs and buttons and nothing can stop vw !

[@josefv-y8m]

a future facelift hopefully brings this back as announced by the CEO...it was too late for this project. The new Passat B9 does not have this touch buttons

[@FireMunki63]

Its not a competitor because VW just will not make enough of them. Don't get me wrong its really nice but they don't want to make many of them either because they don't make any money on their EV's. That is the sad reality.

[@minnguyen4872]

facts right there

[@disarchitected]

Because of emission regulations, at least in the UK and EU, they must sell increasing numbers of ZEV vehicles as a proportion of total sales until their fleet average drops to zero ICE vehicles in 2035. But I think you are right in the sense they won’t sell much of this model, they will probably push out as many ID 2, 3 and 4’s as they need to meet regs.

[@joedu7320]

Is grey pants a good idea? 😂

[@AdrianNelson1507]

VW we will get rid of #capacitiveBS! But not for the id3 facelift. Or the id4. Or the id5. Or this absolutely brand new model 🤦🏻‍♂️ But soon! 😂

[@AdrianNelson1507]

We're listening and we hear you though. Definitely will get rid of it 😂

[@Jason-ml3vs]

Here in the U.S the rule is When it’s raining start texting, argue with your passenger, eat and drive faster.

[@qcope]

In the early nineties, you’d be on the road in a Passat, for £13,000. Average salary here in the UK was £16,000. Today the average salary is £35,000. How much does VW want again for this combination of half finished software?

[@bruddahmanmatt]

Regarding the frunk debate, I like it to keep my EVSE, safety equipment and jumper box/compressor out of the way. And if the car is designed with RWD proportions (Mach-E) or based on a RWD ICE platform, I like it when manufacturers make use of the space leftover after the engine is removed. It’s so annoying to see how much space is wasted under the hood of the i4. Looking at this car I could tell right away it probably wouldn’t have a frunk because of how short the hood is and I’m ok with that. But if you’re gonna chase RWD proportions or build off of a RWD platform, it just looks cheap and lazy to not include a frunk.

[@bartwaggoner2000]

I would prefer as much under the hood as possible, rather than behind the dash where it is impossibly expensive to fix. Not sure how much Tesla has behind dash, but that is my fear…

[@pragadoegito]

Bloated shape, almost like a crossover. So sad to see what sedans are becoming

[@thomassoderqvist4666]

Great review and I believe this car will be a success. Not that colour though...

[@TayoAAdetola]

As an EV owner having a front trunk isn’t super important but when an EV doesn’t I know that it wasn’t engineered well or efficiently. It’s one of those things that show how things were planned and packaged and if it doesn’t have one it shows a lack of effort on that front.

[@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi]

No. The ID models are engineered for maximum passenger space. It's a design decision. These cars have way more room in the back seat than Model 3. Even ID.3 absolutely destroys Model 3 when it comes to cabin space.

[@ErikBrabander]

Great review. I’ll go for the tourer. We have a golf 7.5 variant now and love it. We have two kids and take our caravan (1000kg empty weight) on vacation. The variant is perfect for all that stuff. And yeah… we all heard you say you like a four way 😂

[@IrenESorius]

Huge rims on non racers,, ridiculous,, 🤪 Thank you Thomas,, Mr Best car reviewer,, 👍‍‍🌟👍‍‍

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks m8!

[@IrenESorius]

@@autogefuehl 💖💖

[@bavariancarenthusiast2722]

This is by far the best EV from VW right now, I have a much higher budget but would even consider it as my next car - overall its good in every category - but does not stand out in none, which is typical VW. It's finally premium inside as well, the software works great - no flaws I can see.

[@HansKruse]

I think this car has no chance against the Tesla model Y. Model Y lower price, better space, better tech, better charging speed. I'm sorry to say that the screen in this car looks so old fashioned. Probably a nice car to drive, but....

[@abraxastulammo9940]

I think it did 40 kwh in 13 min

[@autogefuehl]

15:41

[@burninhell107]

about rain on french road, the use it's to lower your speed when you need to use your wipers

[@grigorioschristodoulou5229]

It just looks so depressing. A grey washing machine on wheels

[@V_Dubya]

VW pricing is miles away from where it should be.

[@autogefuehl]

15:41

[@jenny80myles]

All my cars have just one trunk and that's enough for me. I don't need another one. If you do, maybe you are carrying too much stuff. :)

[@MrAllthatgoodstuff]

So a Model 3 Long Range is about 15-20k and even more once you add options to make it equivalent to the Tesla. It is a much nicer car but I don't think it's anywhere near the same price range. Given how reliable Tesla powertrain and batteries are, I think most people would pick the Tesla 3 or Y over this.

[@autogefuehl]

15:41

[@timrothwell33]

It would be nice to have a frunk/froot but don't really mind. As for the charging cable, we hardly ever use ours on our EV because 99% of our charging is at home on a tethered charger or on public DC chargers

[@noobwow2009]

Dont' review EV. review the EV charging infrastructure

[@alix4201]

Hey Thomas, regarding French speed limitations when raining, the French law is rather imprecise. It does not draw a line like in Germany with the road surface, so even a very light rain like the one in your video can be regarded as "rain" and thus reduce speed limits to 110 km/h. Now like most rules in France, most policemen won't care at all and you will see several persons driving 130 km/h in such conditions, but there is always a risk you meet a policeman being strict on the law and receive a speed ticket.

[@yachtinglife7715]

in France if your wipers are running then you must apply reduced speed limits, pretty simple

[@autogefuehl]

thanks for the feedback!

[@krane15]

Speed limits don't account for foul weather. In the U.S. it says "safe and prudent."

[@esjope]

I like having a front boot. It doesn't have to be big but I like keeping the cables there. Froot is also a good place to store things you don't want warming up (during winter).

[@hereigoagain5050]

Love it! I miss sedans so much. Glad that VW invested in an EV sedan. Hope it sells well. Thomas, send out an SOS if you need to be rescued from the hellscape of southern France.

[@ericandeva]

This is a sedan in 5 doors or a liftback

[@Ambienfinity]

A much nicer design than the 'white goods' Teslas, with their panel gaps. While I wouldn't have an EV at the moment, I do like this, and nice to see a saloon shape back in design language.

[@krane15]

Except the Tesla goes way further on a charge and is part of the Tesla changer network.

[@michalklucz6907]

8:54 tesla is leading in gathering information from video feed, true.. but yesterday I drove MY and M3 and then Smart #1. and the smaller and the cheapest one had the best camera for the city. Because while blindspot camera in tesla is useful I have the same information on Smart's HUD (take this Tesla), at the same time, cameras that show you your expensive wheels during parking are so much more useful than a view of the pavement. In that case I prefer VW over Tesla. I am however not buying driving selector, Tesla and MB/Smart do that so much better. and ofc this window control. What a waste of tech. another button that reacts slowly and adds confusion. Still don't get while there is no froot in the second-gen of EV. In Smart you have a super smart one. just for cables and nothing more.. and this is all you need, because if you are on holiday, fully packed, and suddenly you need your type 2 cables, only to realise they are on the -2 level in your boot? a nightmare. depends on when we will see that in the UK I may consider it as my Enyaq replacement but for wider audience, I am not sure it will win with M3 IF you don't need a boot space and access. Otherwise, I will buy Smart#1 for the half of the lease price.

[@pnketia]

Great review Thomas. Seems like this car would be cross shopped against the Hyundai Ioniq 6 more so than the Model 3. The Hyundai with 800-volt architecture and vehicle to load undercuts this by several thousand dollars and it has a frunk. To answer your question about the importance of a frunk for me the answer is YES, because if a ground up BEV does not offer a frunk and the features are no different than the ICE counterpart I would go for the ICE vehicle which in this case the VW Arteon SEL R line seems like a better buy as it is cheaper and a better performance sedan.

[@abraxastulammo9940]

The new passat is so good with 110 km electric range, biig boot and no capacitive curs. 😇