W. A. Mozart - KV 271i (271a) - Violin Concerto No. 7 in D major

[@dmitrijkolbin5737]

Talentierte Ausführung. Erfinderisch, frische, genau Interpretation

[@martinwalthert1709]

I love W.A.Mozart...17 56-1791!♥️

[@jorgeaccinelli5996]

spurious 100%

[@guillote75]

Shall look upon in the Neue Mozart Ausgabe which is easy to browse these days, about the evidence regarding 271i. It should go to another part of the catalogue if dubious.

[@RequiemAeternam01]

Fun fact: The performers in this recording (Czech Philharmonic Chamber Orchestra) laughed multiple times when attempting to record the third movement, because the main melody is so similar to the Czech Christmas carol "Půjdem spolu do Betléma". This raises the theory that the concerto could've been written/composed by a Czech or Bohemian (as they were known in the 18th century) composer.

[@theophilos0910]

The first movement of this (lost) unfinish’d fragment of a violin concerto in D written for Brunetti c. June 1775 (to judge from computer analysis of the score) broke off around bar 113 when an unknown completer attempted to do his best completing what was left a fragment more or less trailing off in mid-sentence - perhaps future generations of AI computer composers could rewrite bars 114-259 or so in a ‘more Mozartean’ stylistic fashion but for now what we have for the first movement at least is 113 bars of pure Mozart follow’d by synthetic Mozart which tho’ delightful in places is full of unMozartean melodic ventures and prematurely undevelop’d material that could have been put to far better use…as for the other two movements they are probably not from Mozart’s pen (certainly not as written) at all but represent an amateur Mozartean imitator at work doing his best to disguise his hack-work alla Kreisler - it would have been far more honest to have preserv’d the 113-or so bars of the 1st fragment, admitting to completing the rest bas’d on Mozart’s own expository melodic material and left it as a single movement completion - so it could be formally enter’d into the Korchel Catalogue somewhere between K. 240 and 245…

[@MrRQBQ]

The first 5 Mozart violin concertos are masterpieces, the last 2 not so. I can see why they are seldom played.

[@Steinbach1984]

Makes sense, since they aren't thought to be by Mozart. No. 6 is definitely spurious, this one is dubious too. In its current form, it can hardly be Mozart's, the possibility of an early 19th-century virtuoso having tampered with an authentic Mozart composition remains.

[@thewizardii1638]

im not convinced this all by mozart..i think its by mozart and someone else..possibly german.or even italian..from late 1780s even very early 1790s.. or maybe even he composed it with someone else..the structure definately seems to be mozart and some parts very mozart..but some seem not as quality as such..even seems a bit like early beethoven style in parts..strange one..

[@thewizardii1638]

but i wouldnt be too surprised if it was all by mozart..

[@thewizardii1638]

the start of the 1st mov. cadenza sounds like mozart..and quite a few other little parts..

[@thewizardii1638]

leapold, salieri.paganini?..

[@HenkVeenstra666]

Nowadays, it is believed to be composed by Vaclav Pichl, a really prollific composer. You should look him up!

[@Steinbach1984]

According to Wikipedia, it has often been ascribed to the French school. It seems to be particularly reminescent of Rodolphe Kreutzer (yes, after whom the Beethoven sonata was named).

[@jorgeaccinelli5996]

Robert Casadesus admitted that he wrote this concert

[@olavtryggvason1194]

Die Autorschaft ist umstritten. Das ändert nichts an der Qualität.

[@MrPaevo]

No way this is Mozart...

[@MrRQBQ]

The first movement sounds more like Haydn.

[@cuetoraul]

What do you think about this concert is spurious? I think the first movement sounds like Mozart, but not the rest...

[@ComposersbyNumbers]

+RAUL CUETO MUÑOZ I added the wikipedia link for the latest info on authenticity. It's one of the theories, that Mozart never finished it and the work was completed by another composer, possibly of Czech origin.

[@HenkVeenstra666]

It was written by Bohemian (czech) composer and violinist Vaclav Pichl.

[@horiaganescu3948]

Not Mozart...

[@egon4593]

Who else?

[@horiaganescu3948]

@@egon4593 Johann Friedrich Eck composed Mozart's Violin Concerto 6. Mozart's Violin Concerto 7 is practically composed by some French violin virtuosos that came and lived after Mozart. Mozart's Five Violin Concertos (1-5) are the only ones composed by Mozart. During the last, say 50-60 years, musicologists established it and one can easily find it out while listening to these concerts. So Mozart wrote five violin concertos (1-5). The genuine, authentic ones, not the attributed ones...

[@brentmeistergeneral2813]

Been studying Mozart for years and this isnt Mozart at all to me.