W124 1989 Mercedes 300E Front Suspension in Action!

I mounted a GoPro 3+ Black series camera on a magnetic mount under the front bumper and behind suspension to get a view of the front long-travel suspension in action. There are three different views, the first is looking forward showing steering arm in action, the second also forward (2:14) at higher speed, and the third (3:32) is looking rearwards from behind the front bumper. This is a substantially stock original example of the W124 chassis that is unmolested, on "Komfort" shocks.

[@MMWA-DAVE]

Really puts in to perspective the hard life those LCA outer balljoints have - they just never stop moving other than when the cars stationary. And the track rod balljoints, they are constantly moving and wearing, not just while steering.

[@user-rt8iu2pk6b]

When there were security engineers in the company, now there is a company of accountants, when Mercedes cars cared about quality and stability and did not care about profits, like today. I hope that Mercedes will return to the way it was before.

[@gokturk232]

Never seen something like this in action. Thanks for the video

[@jdd3993]

Thank you! Something different is a good thing. I will try to make some additional videos with my E320 Coupe (W124 also) and my Subaru BRZ

[@delboy2974]

Nice and simple suspension... Old merc are great...

[@aristotelisvenieratos6109]

Very smooth!

[@jdd3993]

Thank you!

[@nim2064]

Amazing video man 👍

[@kaibintech]

Great video!

[@januszchudzik1970]

Perfect Film

[@jdd3993]

Thank you mate

[@shaazy]

This is the kinda footage I yearn for! How did you make it so smooth?

[@Karthik-yy7gw]

GoPro probably

[@jdd3993]

This is a GoPro attached with a 60lb magnetic mount to the underbody chassis... therefore, the car's springs are actually damping the camera for itself! If you check out some of my other videos, the same camera/mount is used on my Miata and others...

[@shaazy]

@@jdd3993 So hot! I was gonna try this with a Jaws clamp on my Go Pro 9.

[@jdd3993]

@@shaazy When you've filmed it, shoot a message so I can check it out.

[@shaazy]

@@jdd3993 A bit late sorry about that. I shot one. Had to be careful cause there's lots of bumps in the surrounding roads. Also, mine's a 4matic with front shafts removed, so looks even crazier. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKvWfnt5f693h9U

[@Kolx]

The last of the "indestructible" pendants ...

[@jdd3993]

SO true.

[@kewlbean]

Very cool. I will have to try this with my 4Matic.

[@jdd3993]

I would love to see that, the bizarre spring will be interesting to watch! And there is SOOO much room under there!

[@mercedeske]

Great video!👏👏👏

[@jdd3993]

Thank you mate, cheers.

[@mercedeske]

@@jdd3993 Cheers!🍻🍀🍀🍀

[@MMWA-DAVE]

Magnificent

[@Jakajush]

Nice. The shock kinda millimeters from the wheels. Can anything happen to cause touching?

[@AndreyTsigankoff]

Wow 😮 👍 thx bro

[@krrk6337]

I thought they used progressive springs from the factory. Maybe in some upper models?

[@jdd3993]

This was the top of the line model for the W124 until the later 400E, E420... I am not aware of any progressive springs on these... even the 500E.

[@AntoniGanchev]

look easy to work on, I'm going to preplace shock absorbers.

[@mohdsanoob6706]

just wow❤️❤️

[@jdd3993]

Thanks for watching mate...

[@alrodney777]

McPherson Suspension, definitely!!!

[@phairathsudthiphon7936]

Thank you for a good vdo.

[@jdd3993]

Thanks for checking it out! :-)

[@bernardwarr4187]

Interesting the track rod is lower than the outer ball joint, hence 90% of bump steer driver correction inputs will be in towards the car

[@Pawel-B]

Спасибо за видео!

[@jdd3993]

Спасибо за приятный комментарий и просмотр. Следите за их появлением. Я считаю, что на очереди Subaru BRZ.

[@simondaniell2482]

Thanks for posting. I have a W124 1989 300D. Which make are those shocks? Will be replacing mine along with the engine mounts.

[@jdd3993]

These are the OEM Sachs "Komfort" shocks, exactly what was on the car from the factory. Part numbers may be slightly different from the diesel to the gas, but usually that is cared for in spring rates rather than shocks, but best to check to be sure.

[@bernardwarr4187]

@@jdd3993 different part numbers, depending on the weight of the car, engine etc

[@user-mw3sh6jr9c]

Вот это красота!

[@jdd3993]

Спасибо!

[@sukmamwarni6148]

is it independent suspension or not?

[@sergeymakarov9678]

Верхнего рычага нет удивительно ) думал что как на жигулях но нифига не так, тут амортизатор стоит как ПП стойка в каком то дичайшем касторе с опорниками сверху наверняка ШС, а пружина стоит как на жига классике.

[@Vovynchik]

У нас нет таких дорог.

[@bakebake2618]

Тоже хотел написать а где же ямы

[@kraev]

Идеальные дороги...

[@jdd3993]

очень верно

[@harikrishnan6780]

MacPherson suspension am I right?

[@jdd3993]

Correct, MacPherson strut with a separate spring rather than a top spring.

[@samsungsamsungaifon3202]

👍👍 Мерседес

[@valeriuvleshu757]

Да! У меня такой но пружны не те сказал.

[@shengyi01]

Are wheels size 7.5J ET+42 ? Are tires size 225/45 R17 ?

[@jdd3993]

These are standard 15" factory alloys

[@shengyi01]

Thank you.

[@RadioactiveSaddam]

I didn't know the spring was separate from the damper on this model.

[@jdd3993]

Yes, they had done that for awhile, I think they integrated them with the W210 model that came after this!

[@user-rt8iu2pk6b]

@@jdd3993Why did they abandon this system even though it is a comfortable, stable and non-malfunctioning system?

[@jdd3993]

@@user-rt8iu2pk6b Money, money, money. These were expensive to produce, and were higher maintenance than more traditional coil-over struts. They also wear out the springs easier because of the curve in the coil travel.

[@user-rt8iu2pk6b]

@@jdd3993 Is the modern suspension system like Mercedes better than the system that was in the past? W211What do you prefer in terms of comfort and stability?The old system and the modern system

[@jdd3993]

@@user-rt8iu2pk6b I have not owned a W211 but one of my best friends did. Air suspension is great, coils are just basic as far as ride is concerned. They are just different. The big thing is maintenance costs. The strut with adjacent coil like the W124 was more likely edged out of production due to modern crash standards. It's impossible to compare the two cars side by side since there is over 20 years difference in age/design between them. Neither is wrong, neither is realistically better than the other.

[@koubaadel4268]

سيارت مرسيدس بدون ان نرى هاذا الفيديو فهية افضل سيارة في العالم

[@Anonymous-sb9rr]

I expected the w210 to have double wishbone suspension like it's predecessor and successor.

[@abdullahz4804]

It has something better

[@Anonymous-sb9rr]

@@abdullahz4804 It's a McPherson strut, how is that better?

[@abdullahz4804]

@@Anonymous-sb9rr w210 does not have mcpherson strut do your research it also handles the best out of all the e-classes

[@abdullahz4804]

@@Anonymous-sb9rr W124, w211 and so on has mcpherson strut. W210 has double wishbone

[@Anonymous-sb9rr]

@@abdullahz4804 Your right, I wrote my original comment wrong, It should be w124, like what the video is showing.

[@yz537]

Now I feel bad about my suspension 😅

[@ripalsdfirefighter1833]

Suspension arrm staveliser Oh

[@josho2989]

No wonder they're so hard to airbag, that spring isn't going just up and down but it's being side loaded and bound, trippy.. it would be nice to bag my car but maytill just cut a couple coils off, lol..

[@jdd3993]

Yup, long travel coils! There are Sportline springs that drop the car a couple of inches without negative effects on ride.

[@josho2989]

@@jdd3993 yeah I really love the slammed look, but was thinking airnridenbc the roads are not the greatest near me and speed bumps. I may still use bags just need to figure out a better way, maybe bellow bags..

[@jdd3993]

@@josho2989 And then the rear, which is also a long travel coil with the first generation multi-link which is super complicated to lower without compromising the bushings.

[@josho2989]

@@jdd3993 jeeze so I guess I should add poly bushing kit to my list of parts to get..

[@AzzyPL]

I have 200e but with polish roads it's painful to drive 😂

[@jdd3993]

Even with the soft W124 suspension? I believe it about the roads...

[@AzzyPL]

Polish roads have a lot of holes in it and in my city there is a speedbump every 50m on streets and on main road there is a few roundabouts so with the holes this is painful belive me

[@AzzyPL]

If you want to test it in Poland come to Malbork if it is possible

[@Visionery1]

@ Lucyfereq 666, have you checked your steering damper? My W124 was terrible to drive, with a new steering damper (old one was leaking) it's like chalk and cheese.

[@Arppa00]

I used to drive 60kmh into speed bumps with My w124 e320 😅 The best suspension not so good at 235kmh way too soft springs for that

[@BEUSA42]

Ok let’s see all Mercedes’ 300E enthusiasts w124 Let’s identify all suspension parts looking at this video Comment below let’s see the knowledge skills about German engineering:

[@reallyhappenings5597]

Sort of a modified McPherson?

[@user-jo6jg3ep1f]

Nothing common with McPherson.

[@justjako9145]

It is MacPherson read top comments

[@user-jo6jg3ep1f]

@@justjako9145 Comments do not tell the truth. Oficial mercedes dealership may confirm my statement.

[@Anonymous-sb9rr]

@@user-jo6jg3ep1f The spring is in a different location, but the rest of the layout is the same as a McPherson strut.

[@gillesbueno1153]

...and this up to 400000 miles...🙄🙄 hence the need to properly check those parts when purchasing a second hand model...

[@jdd3993]

Very true. My last W124 sedan before the 300E was an E300 Diesel, that made it all the way to 498K miles with only routine maintenance... it was lost in a street flood unfortunately.

[@user-wt3iz1tj8t]

185/65/15🤣

[@user-dn4sc2mm5l]

Покажите как подвеска работает по российским дорогам?)))

[@jdd3993]

Для достижения этой цели мне нужно было бы быть в России! Привет из США!

[@kkss8688]

@@jdd3993 раньше тачки хорошо делали мягкие и тд

[@sokbad5572]

Видеорегистратор перед колесом и вперёд 👉👉👉

[@SvetlozarIliev]

Hello, amazing video! Any chance you know the factory settings scrub radius? (6.5J 15H, ET44; 195/65/15). Or if you know it with some other setup please let me know. I expect it to be 20 to 40 mm positive.Thank you very much! (see www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wheel1=195-65-15X6.5ET44&wheel2=205-60-15X7ET41&fcl=50mm&scl=0mm&wcl=30mm&sr=30mm and the end of your video)

[@jdd3993]

No, sorry. You'll need to check with a mechanic.

[@freeking4291]

W123’s front is way much better

[@user-hz6vd2bi9p]

И чё как на Жигулях подвеска

[@ilyamag8413]

Жигули так не отрабатывают. Заметь, даже камера не трясется, и кузов мало подвижен

[@sokbad5572]

@@ilyamag8413 кузов неподвижен потому, что камера на нём закреплена☝.Подвеска стоит как полжигулей😁

[@ilyamag8413]

@@sokbad5572 сколько стоит подвеска, знаю не по наслышке...

[@user-en7tt5dp6f]

Не ну явно не в России едет

[@zhandosibykenov3107]

Одни задроты тут по коментам ясно свами всё

[@ghazibagazi9687]

Mercedes Benz The best or nothing