WAIT! THIS TACTIC ACTUALLY WORKED?! - Siege Battle - Total War: ROME 2

WAIT!? THIS TACTIC ACTUALLY WORKED?! - Siege Battle - Total War: ROME 2 - Today we try out a cheese strategy that needs a lot of work to work....we had a lot of luck
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[@taipenn2358]

I love how the counter to this tactic is basically "Try to count to 20"

[@matthieurouzes509]

actually if you see less than 15 units with no forest, yes, ask you question x')

[@aDrummerThatisBored]

Or just go.. are my flanks secure.

[@CowCommando]

What would be really sneaky is for each attacker to put like 2 units at the back door so that no one army is obviously suspicious. Never having played this game, I have no idea if that is even possible.

[@bezukaking6860]

@@CowCommando I think it is

[@ShionWinkler]

What you call "Cheese", every General in the world would call a Brilliant tactic.

[@ragerancher]

Sun Tzu, the art of cheese

[@mk-in9fz]

Richard Charbonneau etvdvbjn zs

[@hyperion3145]

*Walks into city* “Brilliant tactics”

[@LevCallahan]

"To a good general, luck is important." -Livy

[@JKozlovable]

A great *stratagem* indeed

[@goodbanter4427]

"I've never seen this work before" ~Local madman before doing said thing

[@meilinchan7314]

If it was good for Stonewall Jackson and Dwight Eisenhower, it's good enough for PixelzAp.

[@patana256]

"Be the change you want to see in the world" - Mandela

[@marcusdayungg2110]

Good Banter moments before disaster

[@blankname2026]

Lol I’ve played this map like a dozen times and I literally had no idea there was a back door.

[@Lyserus]

or more like, there wasn't ;)

[@vysearcadia522]

Operation Back DoorFRAME

[@plakakaneis8941]

How this map is named

[@crazyhercules9442]

I feel like this was the Greek version of the Allied Invasion of Normandy only set in 200 BC. And instead of Normandy, it’s freakin’ Carthage😂😤

[@Boogeyman183]

lol that just sad

[@johntheknight3062]

Imagine real battle where thousands of troops fight each other for dear life and than unit of 100 men stands for couple of minutes on one point and they say "Now we captured the entire town". So everybody just stop fighting and defenders admit defeat just because some random point inside the city was captured.

[@RG-hx8uc]

You are seeing this with a bird eye view point. Imagine yourself as one of the defenders. You are fighting enemy at the front while you realized hundred of them enemy coming out from behind. You cant see the whole picture. You may see this as the city has fallen. You are more prone to surrender than fight to death at this point since you cant exactly know the real situation cause you wont have much time to watch the end of the line of flanking enemy to know the exact number.

[@ServantofBaal]

It is kinda arbitrary..

[@francisr8205]

Literally the movie The Odyssey

[@templarkiller2926]

@@RG-hx8uc Yeah if you are watching all your friends die and are in the middle of a difficult battle, but then you look behind you and there are hundreds of enemies it would be extremely demoralizing as you would probably think that the enemy really has taken the city somehow without you even knowing it.

[@kaleckton]

Made worse with the generals head on a pike. You would assume it's done and just want to live.

[@fitnesstips3075]

Apollo : Roman siege Me: forget it Apollo:Spartans lay siege me:now *you’re talking

[@-noplangaming-9268]

Ikr

[@marcusgodioso277]

You're

[@JoshuaGamingRn]

@@marcusgodioso277 ok dude relax

[@marcusgodioso277]

@@JoshuaGamingRn i dont understand? Im relaxed

[@ohno486]

@@marcusgodioso277 what happened?

[@joeonitproductions]

Dude!!! This was a fun battle and a good time!! Totally need to do more battles with you. Thanks for the shout out also!!!

[@LegendaryAirsofters]

Joe Onit joe mama

[@eggie6926]

*carthage with rome* Me: wait thats illegal

[@anarionelendili8961]

Carthage and Rome were allied vs. Pyrrhus... of Epirus. So quite appropriate, in that sense. :)

[@eggie6926]

Yeah one point for you :)

[@aDrummerThatisBored]

I will make it legal. Wait.. wrong galaxy.

[@owo5869]

Maybe Epirus came

[@CM-os7ie]

Dido and Aeneas Turning in their graves

[@RoulicisThe]

this is the law of probability at it's best : the less likely your opponent is to use this tactic, the less you're likely to prepare a counter to it. The backdoor tactic isn't used often because it doesn't usually work, but because it's uncommon people don't expect it. As people don't expect it, they don't prepare for it. And thus, as they didn't prepare for it, it worked.

[@eoin8274]

Keep Sauron's Eye fixed upon us. Make him blind to all else that moves.

[@Segnor1]

Exactly what I thought.

[@thickac7579]

If we replace "cheesy" with "dishonorable" every time we lose a battle and try to justify ourselves , i think we would basicaly sound like every general in history who did the same. The French probably thought mud+longbows was cheesy too lol.

[@Kartikeya97]

Lmao 😂

[@ericklecorbeau8341]

You lost tho

[@DLockholm]

Every general in history, even modern's, will definitive go for that kind of openings

[@teddycoala2521]

The strategy is super easily countered with three units basically. Nothing dishonourable about it just using an opening.

[@DLockholm]

@@teddycoala2521 Apollo was clearly exaggerating when calling this ¨cheesy¨

[@VypeReaper]

16:24 "Operation backdoor" 16:28 "Uhm... Maybe that's not a good name" lmfao 😂😂

[@Dangelboyd]

Fun battle man! Great cover of this one! Looking forward to seeing the other battles we did!

[@user-ze8uh1dv3q]

Apollo:Look at town center His teammates:Don't tell about that! Theoden:It's over. What can men do against such reckless hate?

[@geniemiki]

I imagine like a suspicious influx of Iberian fishermen and artisans coming into Carthage months before the siege and then when the faitfull day comes, they reveal why they all congregated around that little worthless beach area and why they were such poor craftsmen and traders.

[@hyperion3145]

It wouldn’t be that much different from a normal day in Carthage, Iberians were all over the place so you wouldn’t need to hide much.

[@flightsimulatorlad6664]

broke: hannibal crossing the alps woke: lusitani using a “cheesy” sneak attack

[@simaozinho37]

Fun fact Lusitanians were with Hannibal crossing the alps :D

[@pergys6991]

This video actually helped me win. I was playing a 2v2 on this map and one of the opponents was Suebi. I remembered this video but kind of brushed it off but i placed shield bearers (Seleucid) on the road towards that gate. While me and my team are defending the walls, I get a message that my troops are breaking and i look and see the entire Suebi army running to the point. A favorite thing i do is place my best troops on the point so i manage to quickly put my pikemen into phalanx, my general (Peltast) and another royal peltast into shield wall but they get surrounded and killed but I brought enough time for my team mate and my army to rush back to the point

[@suomusintti]

Did you win?

[@popeyethesailor1089]

Love all the videos my man good analysis on the different tactics and strategies, keep up the great work.

[@Tortuga629]

Cheese tactic: attack an undefended flank.

[@coolcat1530]

Right...not exactly cheese

[@Vel073]

JGFishe ikr tf

[@darthvader5174]

That amazing pixalated Apollo keep up the greatvwork! Your vids have gotten me through some rough times! If I ever need a laugh or need to get my mind of of things I can always watch your videos!

[@herecomesthatboy1961]

brings up hud, it's Lusitani, tiny army, giant blob of yellow pips on the other side of carthage. it's gonna be a good one bois

[@beanomate3615]

not my proudest moment

[@ApollonBE]

I really like your videos Apollo, it's a mix between entertainment and "consulting" :-) it's almost like watching a sport game with an enthusiastic moderator xD #loveit

[@melloyello8968]

This videos title is: Going through the back without consent

[@ethanm1273]

"Operation back door...Okay, maybe that's not a good name." 🤣

[@triggerviper9116]

As you said you recommended cheese for the snack, I thought: Wellp, that's my cue!

[@ragingmonkey9383]

Great video as always I really enjoyed this cause I play sparta and Rome and I like this aggressive Sparta play I normally play them on defence after watching this I’m definitely going to start attaching as Sparta

[@Ocupolis]

Apollo: “Now I do recommend you get some snacks.” Me: *Bolts to make popcorn*

[@jeremi1286]

Apollo- "Get some cheese" Me- *Eating a Cheddar sandwich* "Oh..."

[@racerrouth6484]

"operation backdoor" 😂

[@JustinIsOnTheTube]

This is a particularly good battle Apollo. Great vid

[@kristenrosero6930]

Rome and Carthage ended their dispute and became allies. Good thing Rome did not back stab Carthage.

[@strategeman6333]

It honestly looked like you were going to win even without sneaking in the back lol. Nice play

[@RafaelValle12]

I've never seen so many survivors in a Total War battle. This blows my mind.

[@weewooo4150]

I love it so much KEEP UP the good work!!

[@joshuatuplano7338]

Pixelated: operation backdoor Me: lame Pixelated: what do you called it Me: operation backstabbing

[@ianrexgluix2838]

love your videos! keep up the good work!

[@soniahorton3678]

that was some of the best game play iv ever seen so far keep up the good work

[@uselessmuffin]

This has got to be my favorite vid, the cheese tactic and the sandwiches at the first couple of minutes is juicy

[@soidz4569]

Given that it's December this is the cheese strategy of the year lol. Good one Apollo!

[@ragnarlothbrok222]

Please never stop doing these videos

[@kingmarseille3419]

4:03 THEIR IN THE TREES SIR! THEIR IN THE TREES! !!!

[@patlayanseker561]

3:12 yeah D&D moment appearantly

[@GurtTarctor]

This was really funny to watch live :P

[@bossenes5020]

You had an older video where somebody did this in a smaler paste That was brilliant and very hard to counter But when the defenders dont notice a complete army missing than its their own fault and they can really not blame anyone else

[@xfirethegames9349]

Great and fantastic battle gg

[@juhar5844]

Apollo: Joe told me this Me: Joe MA...

[@florisabelen4977]

Genius, ive played this map so much and didnt know

[@kevintracey6356]

Apollo- for your snacks get cheese Me- getting ALL the cheese sat on the couch and munched the whole time

[@Sadar21Osasuna]

That was brilliant!

[@LVPAcharn]

Loved it !! :)

[@gsektor5645]

Hey pix love your vids keep up on the great work 👍 also we’re is your campaign for summer set

[@janusreigarcia8375]

Thats crazy well played thats a cheezy smart moved impressive

[@spiritualbeetle3904]

When I saw those siege towers I knew this was going to be interesting

[@Tidybeard01]

Great video and fun to watch. Trouble is, I don't agree this is a "cheese" tactic - it was entirely your opponents' fault for leaving that entrance wide open. You snooze, you lose! Well played!

[@PittBullBytes]

i didn't know what to expect, but this exceeded it

[@animeisdope5264]

Lol I haven’t watched this man in like 3 years and all of a sudden he gets recommended on my youtube lol wtf

[@awesomedonut8228]

Player: Hey about the ambu- Apollo: *_okay boomer!_*

[@crnoman9408]

Apollo : snack Me : raw mozzarella

[@ThomasPurcell]

On that map there are two choke points near the center flag. Put EVERYTHING facing those choke points, and forget about defending the walls. Preferably with a wall of pikes or shields and archers stacked to hell behind them. You can hold hold off forces 2 to 3 times your size that way. Most maps are the same-- use the choke points close to the flag and feck the walls.

[@SUPERsneeky33]

This is an amazing strategy! Good to see vanguard troops used in such an effective manner!

[@connarkent282]

It's like troops designed for what they can do can't be done

[@jeffdiegurke9175]

15:36 Apollo like "Nope not even trying that one, "romans" is fine"

[@seanmazon6174]

I liked for that snack joke at the beginning

[@jstandards766]

It was cheesy, but the battle overall was awesome! That cav charge into the archer was so flame

[@whitebeardyt3329]

Hi apollo keep up the good workkkkk love youuuu

[@anubisd613]

I used this tactic 5 times on Chartege and always they forget the dor opened

[@noahadamson6612]

I can imagine what the enimes where thinking

[@Roux-yg1rs]

When he revealed the where the rest of his allies army i immediately lol and a big woooooow r u for real 😂😂😂

[@viettrungtran4500]

If some one say that tactic is too cheesy. Remember a great man once say. “That may be so, but it is also irrelevant.”

[@davidpayton8569]

GREAT VID KEEP IT UP

[@markchesterlbuenconsejo550]

Spartans are born of war sins birth but the romans are start at 17 old to be trained to fight

[@TruthTheChamp]

😂😂 apollo man. I wish to have had a longer battle but hey ! Strategy

[@loghanditheimperialdiehard8876]

Finally getting your vids in my recommended again. They went away for a while. Cursed KZbin algorithms!

[@joedemelfie5509]

you should share a link to their live feed recording, if they have one that it?. I would enjoy seeing and hearing more so their team being shocked and awed and panicked and frustrated or whatever not seeing this coming. lol you should look into it. love to hear what they have to say on the matter since it was done live. be cool.

[@jarrettshaw6989]

I've done it a handful of times it's always really funny. Usually they leave their pikes and gens in the back and I'll kill them and then they will rush their spare units back then I become the defender.

[@andreasottohansen7338]

It would be interesting to see the replay from the other side. So you can see how the defenders prepare, and exactly when the scheme is revealed.

[@LevCallahan]

"...ready to do a backdoor attack" Oh I've been more than ready to do those backdoor attacks. 😏

[@michaelgulo6014]

Apollo you have shamed the gods, curse you to the underworld. Zeus will seek vengeance upon you.

[@iamplay797]

haha that was real funny to watch 😂😂

[@kazato2019]

Pretty cool tactic, reminds me of Troy in some way.

[@PhenomenalAnde]

Nothing cheezy here :D Cool strategy!

[@micderpenstien7846]

Making thier way downtown, marching fast, buildings pass as they burn down. Dodedododedo.

[@Syn0nym.]

u got new sub bro liked ur vid

[@brandonhughes645]

I found that people wont put too much units to defend the back wall so i just put very strong and diverse units there.

[@hyperplane521]

apollo would be the best history teacher

[@MrDew335]

The name Ivacy VPN always makes me think "Public Relations"

[@dartiel6892]

Those 3 squads of Masaesily troops decided to abandon guard duty and go to town for some fun.

[@likeablekiwi6265]

The guy with the grey flag is mostly at the back in most of the battle though

[@ftfartsandcrafts4272]

I love you're channel I think it's a nice experience and I am looking forward to your foocher Sorry for had spleing

[@thrifter107]

love you man

[@michaelmeis2953]

Back Door Attack is my favorite adult film

[@deathpunish2]

I just won a battle the other day with this exact tactic XD

[@unimatrix501]

oh and the timer counting down is in the lower right side you were looking left in the video great battle anyway!

[@grantpaterson1016]

So much Cheddar it made Legend look like a cheese slice..hahahahaha

[@thoratix6310]

"And for your snacks you might wanna get some cheese, why, well today's tactic in this battle is pretty cheesy." - Cheesy Apollo 2019

[@Thromash]

At the end when talking about the timer, although it wasn't there, what I assume was the replay timer was down in the bottom right.

[@grandstrategos1144]

No, it was the timer for the capture point to be fully captured. Once the attacking army captures the town center, a timer starts going down. You can stop the timer by recapturing the town center, but you can’t reset it

[@meilinchan7314]

Viriathus would be proud of whoever was leading Team Yellow.

[@lucarain2936]

The real strategy/victory was when you hid the beached army during a livestream. Well done!

[@samogilvie1241]

hi there love the video. big fan of rome 2 myself and love to plan out my tatics to attack or deffend. how do you get the three paint lines tool. can't find it on steam.

[@grandstrategos1144]

I think it is on top of the mini map on the right side.

[@calebfinkle1590]

LegendofTotalWar would be proud