2023 Moomba Max - Wakesurf Review - The Best Surf Wave for the Money

[@stephenmoffitt4596]

Great boat. I love my 22 mojo. I was on the fence between it and the max. I ordered it after your review on the 21. These Moomba’s can’t be beat for the money. But I agree with you. 11.4 mph is the sweet spot. We have big guys surf at that speed with no additional weight. Thank you for all the info took all the guess work out of it.

[@wake9tv]

Your welcome, thanks for the feedback.

[@lancelashelle8755]

Just bought a 21 Max.....WHERE did you place the lead on the 23 Max in this video?...Thank you!

[@haknslash]

I run around 6200 lbs in our 2019 Max and it’s great! Hard to beat this boat for the money, especially back in 2019. I run Wakemakers bags, 200 lbs of lead in the rear, 300 lbs of lead in the front plus another 500 lbs in the bow. Speed at 11.4 most of the time and it throws a great wave 🌊

[@wake9tv]

Great to hear!

[@ikenmike40]

You run 500 in the front? What pitch are you at?

[@austinbailey1385]

Awesome good to know looking hard at the MAX it’s such a good value

[@wake9tv]

It is, best value IMO.

[@jgolsky7687]

I have a 2020 max, and really like it. It’s a great boat for our lake. I am having some spider cracking in the gel coat on the side of the boat. I was washing it at our dock and noticed the cracks, of course I heard “ we have never seen this in all our years” . I hope SC gets this repaired to our expectations. Have you see any of this type of issue ?

[@wake9tv]

I have not seen that, but I have always found them to be responsive on that kind of stuff. Hope that all goes well.

[@markbrown597]

That looks so fun, Robert.

[@wake9tv]

tyvm!

[@alwaysboatin659]

One of my favorite videos next to the Makai vid that you have done. I can’t find a centurion vid with the ramfill. Have you ever surfed that boat?

[@wake9tv]

We have at our Polar Bear events, good wave, not my favorite boat, and not fond of that surf system or ramfill.

[@skiliftsrock1057]

Nice video. What are you using for additional ballast or "lead"? Can you link it?

[@wake9tv]

leadwake.com

[@MacNSteez2602]

What would you say throws a better wakesurf wave the max or mojo thanks

[@wake9tv]

I would have to test the 23 Mojo, but I would say the 23 Max is better than the 21 Mojo. And there is something about the max, it seems to put out a better wave with less weight.

[@MacNSteez2602]

Thanks

[@snowboardintahoe]

Killer boat ❤

[@donkeytonks6466]

Awesome!

[@wake9tv]

Thanks!

[@bradtomlinson6972]

How do you know when you have too much lead? What are the signs ... I didn't quite understand your explanation on that? Thanks!

[@wake9tv]

when your RPM is too high, for instance, over 4k can be ok at times, but I would say 3600-4k is optimal. Also, if you set your speed, and you can't maintain it, and in order to maintain the speed you have to lower your pitch, that would be another sign.

[@jedhayes8856]

Keep the reviews coming! Thank you! We recently sold our 2014 Mojo and are looking for our next boat. Surfing is our focus. Of the Makai, Mojo and Max which one do you think throws the best wave? One other wild card. Have you surfed the ATX 24 S? Was really impressed with this boat. Do you have any experience with them how would they compare to the new Moombas?

[@wake9tv]

Tige/ATX waves don't have as good of a transition and are more inconsistent. Also, I can't stress how important it is to have pitch and roll at least monitored in real time on your boat. Adding that autowake works so well, its a huge benefit to surfing in my opinion. I really like the max, but the Makai is right there as well due to the extra room, Craz is too small for our family.

[@TheJimmysGarage]

I bought a '23 Max last year, I did the wakemakers bag upgrades right away. The goofy wave at 9.5* pitch and 5-7 roll around 11.2 mph is amazing with surf tab around 70-80. I cannot get the regular wave to clean up no matter what.. I put some lead in the back to get pitch at 9.5 and roll at -1 or -2 around 11.2mph and the wave just isn't clean.. I can start to clean it up with like 70-80 surf tab but never with 60. Any tips? This video makes the regular wave look amazing.

[@wake9tv]

send me an email with some pictures/video, that is unusual. do you have flow 2 or flow 3?

[@TheJimmysGarage]

@@wake9tv Will do! we have Flow 2.0

[@JasonShaw-mm8mf]

I have a 2021 MAX, it was the first year for the upgraded 4,000# ballast. I have added the 860 bow fit bag and upgraded to the 1345's in the rear. Total 5550 in water ballast. I believe I will take out some lead and go back in with 400# to start with. If I understand correctly, fill everything 100%, put lead in the center of the boat, then use autowake to get it to the pitch and roll I set. Once it gets that and empties water in places to achieve that, I fill back to 100%, turn off autowake, move lead around to get the pitch and roll I thought was the best? Do I follow that correctly? I have watched several of your videos and want to verify before I go and try to set this up. Thank you.

[@wake9tv]

Have you watched this video, for how we setup with lead? kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3WUqHiGp7iKq9k

[@JasonShaw-mm8mf]

@@wake9tv I have watched all your videos, yes. I have watched all the videos on placement. Where did you place the lead on the 2023 MAX? It stated around 300 pounds. I think I will take 400 with me. I love my MAX. But, I have been messing with things and now cannot get it back to where it was. :(

[@JasonShaw-mm8mf]

I am also running a 15.5x14.25 prop

[@professionalputtacademy6161]

In your opinion if you are looking at the max or other moomba options is there a year where things improved a lot. Like would you be ok buying a 2014 vs say a 2018 etc. Keep hearing get 2019 and later. Thanks

[@wake9tv]

2019 was a bit update, and then this last one was a big leap. I am not sure if the big leap was in 22 or 23, but we did run with a 21 mojo, and these 23s were a significant improvement with ballast and the surf system.

[@ems032470]

Thanks for this review. Where did you place the 300#? I also replaced the 1000# bags with the 1345# wakemakers on my 21 Max.

[@wake9tv]

Watch our Wakesurf Science video regarding lead placement.

[@codylawrence6661]

Awesome video! I have a 2022 Max that was ordered with 400 and Surf prop and was no good in Alberta Canada. Propped down two sizes to 15.5X15 world of difference! Running 5000lbs it handles the extra weight perfectly. Can’t wait till next summer to dial it in some more after seeing this video!

[@wake9tv]

that is awesome, sorry I missed this.

[@laythonford7360]

Hey did you buy your max through Martin motor sports??? Currently looking at a max

[@codylawrence6661]

⁠@@laythonford7360 Yes we ordered it through the Edmonton location

[@kurdtwalker]

We are running 6250 lbs of ballast in our ‘22 Max with the high altitude prop. Can’t beat the wave it makes. Thanks for the validation

[@wake9tv]

Your welcome.

[@jasonneudorf9138]

I have a 2022 max and find when we have full ballast and people it powers out, I need a different prop. Just wondering what pitch and diameter you are running. Mine came with a 15.5 X 16.5 prop

[@kurdtwalker]

We ordered our Max with the 15.5x15 OJ. You lose some top end speed but definitely make up for it on the low end

[@jasonneudorf9138]

Thanks. Was not sure. My dealer had a 15X14 in stock that he really wanted to sell me but I was leaning more to the 15.5 X 15. Thanks for confirming that for me. Thanks again Jason

[@jasonneudorf9138]

I have a 2022 max and when loaded right up it does not have the power as you said. Just wounder what prop you would recommend. It came with a 15.5X16.5 that is still on it.

[@wake9tv]

I found someone who tried a different prop for this, and let me see if I can find that. Are you at a higher altitude?

[@jasonneudorf9138]

@@wake9tv we are about 1000 feet above sea level. Boat works good with 5-10 people. But more than that it can’t always get to 11-12 mph.

[@lancelashelle8755]

Did the boat in this demo have the flow 2 or 3 system?

[@wake9tv]

Flow 2

[@JS-um4vr]

Two questions. Correct me if I’m wrong but you don’t normally use auto wake right? I was surprised to hear you used it the whole time. Also you mention a software update. Do,you know if that will be available on older boats to help auto wake?

[@wake9tv]

I use autowake all the time on this and our Supra SL as well. I use it probably 98% of the time. Working on a video to detail how I use it and why. I don't know on the update, if it works on older moombas, usually you can to a point, but you have to check with your dealer.

[@alwaysboatin659]

Also, did these ballast upgrades happen in 2022 or 2023?

[@wake9tv]

22, but the craz is all upgraded for 23. But every year there is some upgrades, just some more than others.

[@nesterg9300]

Awesome boat, awesome review. Do you still measure draft at all? Don’t hear you mention that after your wake surf science vids.

[@wake9tv]

Yes, there is a wake number on the dash, that corresponds to the draft sensor.

[@nesterg9300]

Oh ok. And draft being the overall displacement/weight of the boat sitting in the water? Or just specifically the back of the boat?

[@jonlyons3601]

How about engine noise? Still super loud even with surf pipe?

[@wake9tv]

this was didn't even have the surf pipe. I didn't notice it being loud, and our SL is quiet. It was def louder than the SL but it didn't bother me at all, mostly because the 400 is a pretty quiet motor, where the 450 is louder.

[@ikenmike40]

What do you mean by prop down?

[@wake9tv]

I mean like a high altitude prop, which will give you more low end torque, but you will lose some of your top speed.

[@nickover500]

I am crazy like you and did add that prop to my 2020 Max. Lost a little top end speed, but marginal. Worth it for the increase torque and wave. Full 4000 lbs + 600lbs lead is perfect with 3 person crew. Monster wave. 11.3 mph. I find the autowake terrible always drains water. I just load it up and move lead/people. Need more pitch than you had in video. 10-11ish degrees and more -2/3 negative roll on surf left. Surf Right I use same roll with more pitch. We like a steep wave, but it’s still long too. Love your videos! #DeepCreekLakeMd

[@wake9tv]

@@nickover500 thank you! Auto wake keeps getting better, but there are a few tricks to making it work great. Working on a video.

[@ikenmike40]

Which prop did you get? I have the 2021 max

[@nickover500]

ACME 2247 4 Blade 15" x 14.25" Propeller

[@achirdo]

What RPM were you running at surf speed?

[@wake9tv]

About 3800

[@craigpardue1700]

Title says 22. Caption says 2023. Just FYI.

[@wake9tv]

Thank you, good catch!