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My first Freefoil experience with BETA Foils

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Wake Thief

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@mysweethubert
@mysweethubert Жыл бұрын
This technology paired with a wing could make it possible to fly forever in the lightest winds. That's the part that's really exciting to me.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
I don't know, as I'm not a winger, but I expect we will all find out soon.
@mysweethubert
@mysweethubert Жыл бұрын
@@WakeThief if you could find a way to test it with someone who wings, I bet you would get a lot of attention, I for one would be extremely interested to see the result. You would also dip into a much larger market.
@whalek1
@whalek1 Жыл бұрын
That would be interesting/entertaining. Get out there with Tucker with MacKite. It would be great to see a collab with them.
@JinKee
@JinKee 8 ай бұрын
​@@mysweethubertto wing, do you need some way to stick to the deck of the foil?
@mysweethubert
@mysweethubert 8 ай бұрын
@@JinKee you don't need to, but some use straps. It is more useful if you're going to jump, to keep the board at your feet.
@irf888
@irf888 Жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm not a pump foiler, rather focus on kite and wing, however I really appreciate the effort and commitments you make when analysing especially when you use data to backup your summaries (most others don't unfortunately). Wish you and your colleague all the best with the business venture!. Regards.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
I couldn't wish for a kinder response. Thank you for seeing and appreciating the details.
@justincoats7236
@justincoats7236 Жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here saying, "No way!" Over and over watching this video. You did it! So cool. I've been following you for years. You wanted it, and you did it.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Justin. Making this video was an emotional experience for me. Lots of hours on foils led to the moments in this video. Thanks for taking the time to write, and your support over the years. Means the world to me.
@justincoats7236
@justincoats7236 Жыл бұрын
​@@WakeThiefIt's so cool of you to respond. I had very little faith that your goal would ever be reached. I thought the technology couldn't go much further. My thoughts were to get in better shape or an electric efoil. It's so cool that you are now friends with Todd Reichert. He has to be one of the coolest engineers of our day.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
@justincoats7236 I’m not going to lie. I started to lose faith too. Todd is truly exceptional.
@MrMatos1965
@MrMatos1965 Жыл бұрын
​​@@WakeThiefir are you looking to distrib efficiently in Europe
@muskokaliving2072
@muskokaliving2072 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with your thinking on "Endless Flight". Nobody flies, drives, bikes, runs, or walks forever. Each has it own realistic and practical range that most of us need. It seems like the new Freefoil is already in the range for most of us. Congratulations!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Todd kept telling me I’d love freefoiling. I need to try and see stuff to believe it. I’m a believer. And yes, not sure what I was gonna do when I flew an hour that wouldn’t be called freefoiling!
@genevadaddy
@genevadaddy Жыл бұрын
It seems super cool. A sunfish or a laser or any other small sailboat can take you for hours. The wind, daylight and your time are the only limits (that and where you can launch from a trailer or a dolly).
@DRK_MTB_406
@DRK_MTB_406 Жыл бұрын
Your video from one year ago talked of foiling for 30 minutes as the end goal of endless flight. Now 2.5 hours…mind blown and congratulations
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I, myself, would still like to get past 30min, just so 20min becomes easy and I can now venture out even further. But, yea, it is truly amazing
@J10TAY
@J10TAY Жыл бұрын
And just like that, we have a winner. I hope you can still carry on this channel even though you found a foil that will never be beaten
@ukarlsson
@ukarlsson Жыл бұрын
With the current price I suppose there will always be room for more reviews of the best budget alternatives 😀
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support. This is just the beginning. I haven’t even flown for an hour yet! This is one category. We are reviewing wake thief foils, new budget foils, and efoils! I’m also giving winging a try! I love this sport and I’m not going anywhere! So much to do.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! The most interest this summer has been this $1000 option that is a great way to enter this sport, and let someone see if they fall in love. mackite.idevaffiliate.com/idevaffiliate.php?id=102&url=5
@tiesdayou2965
@tiesdayou2965 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome! A new chapter begins - congrats guys!
@drrock5356
@drrock5356 Жыл бұрын
Epic! Thank you for showing the first major breakthrough in hydrofoiling in decades!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
The pleasure was absolutely mine! Thank you.
@FoilFanatic42
@FoilFanatic42 Жыл бұрын
This is so cool! Cant wait to see what the future holds with this!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@cyberflightfpv4184
@cyberflightfpv4184 4 ай бұрын
I don’t know why but i hate that it’s called flying
@fredfrond6148
@fredfrond6148 3 ай бұрын
It is essentially flying through water. The principle is the same as an aeroplane, except the higher density of water allows the wings to be smaller.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief 3 ай бұрын
@fredfrond6148 beautifully said
@johnnyappleseed.4420
@johnnyappleseed.4420 2 ай бұрын
Don't worry you can still hydrofoil fly when they ban all drones. Didn't know drone operators were so sensitive.
@danieljones8639
@danieljones8639 Ай бұрын
Because it's not flying. Trying to defend it, otherwise, just sounds stupid.
@arrzfr
@arrzfr Ай бұрын
People who are actually foiling call it flying for a reason. What the couch potatoes call it really doesn‘t matter.
@exactpause9218
@exactpause9218 Жыл бұрын
I'm totally blown away, I've never seen or heard of anything shown and now I learned that a guy can fly around for hours above water with just the power of his own body. Realisticly i know I'm far to heavy and unfit to do mor then two pumps on such a thing before I crash into the water but I'm completly hooked, this looks like so much fun if you got the hang of it, thank you for introducing me to this world - subbed!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Super kind of you to take the time to share that with me!
@christinamattosomaia4991
@christinamattosomaia4991 Жыл бұрын
I am a wing foiler and was looking for a sport to practice my foiling when there is no wind. I want to purchase one Beta foil! I think it is wonderful
@imd12c4advice
@imd12c4advice 6 ай бұрын
Glad you are achieving your goals. Good to see you're teaming up with knowledgeable and skilled folks like Todd. Anyone who's been successful on the asphalt in BM, NV has my respect. Plus real world results are the best kind of proof.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Super kind of you to leave the note. Todd is as impressive as it gets.
@wedding_photography
@wedding_photography Жыл бұрын
Wing size: 2100 cm^2 Tail size: 340 cm^2 Aspect Ratio: 18.3 Total foil weight: 4.7kg
@erikkpritchard
@erikkpritchard Жыл бұрын
Interesting to see the dual mast, like on the earlier hydrofoil boats.
@unoxunox4086
@unoxunox4086 Жыл бұрын
... makes a lot of sense to have lower forces on the joints.
@asfdoth
@asfdoth Жыл бұрын
Long time follower! Your dedication to this project over time is a credit to mankind's ingenuity throughout history. I keep thinking of the parallels of how Da Vinci's Great Kite design and the Wright brother's designs ultimately led to the aeronautics we have today. Obviously, all compressed in time through the power of Information Technology! Good job! Keep at it!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
It speaks volumes about your character to take the time to write something so kind. Thank you. While what we’re doing is so much smaller in scale and impact, it was nonetheless what I wanted to pursue.
@marco_s3025
@marco_s3025 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. I may add,the rate of development since his early endeavors till now is in a time-line truly Great.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Marco
@jugadeus
@jugadeus Жыл бұрын
I am so impressed with this Devon! Looks so good- beautiful production values. If you want some Western Australian testers the Perth dock start crew have their hands in the air😊
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
I was so impressed when I saw it too.
@bernienovak1504
@bernienovak1504 Жыл бұрын
Looks next level. Hopefully the price can drop a bit in the future so more people can enjoy this
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Yes! To reach the next-level weight and performance, BETA used ultra-high mod carbon fiber and designed/built the freefoil 100% in Canada.
@chriswilliams213
@chriswilliams213 Жыл бұрын
Definitely needs to cut the price in half before it picks up. It should be more then normal foils but at its current price, efoils make way more sense.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Yes, at this stage we are on the verge of flying hours and every ounce of weight and watt of reduced pumping power matters. For anyone considering this sport of the first time, I’d start here if they’re not sure this for them. The 99 was the very foil foil I dock started and pumped for 1min! mackite.idevaffiliate.com/idevaffiliate.php?id=102&url=5
@andrewbodager2651
@andrewbodager2651 Жыл бұрын
​@@chriswilliams213I hope your employer/customers never ask you to cut your labor in half to meet their wants. Innovation has a cost!
@ben3989
@ben3989 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewbodager2651but surely you under stand the trade off off low production/sales vs high production mass market dynamic? It’s what makes your really high tech tv cost only $500 at Costco.
@glucklichprutas4631
@glucklichprutas4631 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new design. Awesome 2½ record. Nice work on trying so many different types and coming up with a winner. Its expensive but so are high performance sailplanes or sailboat compared to a cheap hangglider or Sunfish. If I had to choose, I'd choose this Betafoil over any efoil
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
An efoil will be a much easier way to get to an hour of flight, but this one is more fun if you’re looking for an endurance and fitness challenge.
@marcoswelker132
@marcoswelker132 Жыл бұрын
Everything in this video is just great. Sport, storytelling, editing,... good job!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Thank you. It was from the heart, which made it that much more rewarding.
@marcosfunky
@marcosfunky Жыл бұрын
This is like a adventure movie! I fell shivers even typing here...
@JesseKellys
@JesseKellys 6 ай бұрын
Awesome. Bummed I'm only seeing this 7 months later! I need to lose weight for many reasons but the idea of free foiling and wind foiling is a primary motivator.
@steveothedeveo
@steveothedeveo Жыл бұрын
Nicely done. That beach launch looks super easy. Well... easy after lots of practice but you know what I mean. Compared to other foils. And so rewarding for you being able to pump to far away docks or piers. I love it.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
It's not as easy as it looks, but this foil certainly made it possible for me. I thought beach starting was beyond my skill set, but I'm so glad to now be doing it.
@wesrack0
@wesrack0 Жыл бұрын
Good to see someone else using Solidworks. Let us know we can print you some parts here in Tennessee
@shoomz
@shoomz Жыл бұрын
Huge congrats, this is just really great. I’m wondering how much easier it is to keep balance on choppy days - compared to a single mast design - as the big span front wing should react quite a bit more sensitive to even the slightest turbulence in the water. Also the wipeout looked quite similar to “single mast wipeouts” so things won’t get too easy in that regard it seems.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Please don’t be mistaken. This sport isn’t easy. The freefoil didn’t make the sport easy, but it did make it easier. I’ve been fine riding through chop and waves. The large wing actually stabilizes pretty well. I wouldn’t say it’s any better or worse.
@tonymccann1978
@tonymccann1978 7 ай бұрын
That looks f**king sweet. Would love to try that. Good job, great example of solid engineering
@JackDanYewell
@JackDanYewell 9 ай бұрын
This is amazing! The only thing left is figuring out wet starts. Man I would love to invest in this company!
@RasKitchen
@RasKitchen Жыл бұрын
This looks boss! Thanks for the vid 🙌
@scientificapproach6578
@scientificapproach6578 Жыл бұрын
This might make a great foil for wingfoiling during low wind speeds.
@sifly_efoil
@sifly_efoil Жыл бұрын
Thats for shure a super glider wing..Thanks for pushing the sport to the limits🤩
@befree1558
@befree1558 Жыл бұрын
Amazing - I guess it would also work for very lightwing winging or paddle starts on flatwater with a downwindboard. A comparison with a Sabfoil Leviathan 1750 or Gong Sirus 186cm or even 249cm would be also very interesting. They also have a very high aspect, but single mast. Maybe quite a significant amount of energy gets lost due to the flexing of the single mast? If just 50 watts get lost, that's a lot when it comes to endurance.
@stkl23
@stkl23 11 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking too. It should be rather easy paddling this foil up in flat water - that way you wouldn't even need a place to dock-start from. The dual-mast should also prevent it from rolling... exciting times ahead!
@laurentmuller7930
@laurentmuller7930 11 ай бұрын
Was also wondering if you could keep paddling on this thing instead of pumping.
@dezmantel4412
@dezmantel4412 Ай бұрын
Wow, looks very cool, 45min nonstop workout imho is the best, and the fact that you can start from almost anywhere, the cruising, very nice design.
@MMcguire85813
@MMcguire85813 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! I want one! I wish the price of entry was less so I could just buy one and try it out!
@jeremyneworleans
@jeremyneworleans Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Can't wait for a more affordable price to make it mainstream!
@phuckpootube6231
@phuckpootube6231 3 ай бұрын
LOL... so so true.
@laprepper
@laprepper 13 күн бұрын
High aspect ration wing for the win, U2 laughing over here like “duh”
@steinerikgabrielsen2988
@steinerikgabrielsen2988 Жыл бұрын
Thank you... again. I'm already requesting one from MACkite to ride with wings
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
MACKite will take great care of you!
@sikguystg
@sikguystg Жыл бұрын
Nice, I was wondering what you'd been up to lately since you werent posting much anymore
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
This wasn’t the reason why, but I will now be producing more content. Stay tuned for our best foil 2023 which is up next!
@vramsay
@vramsay 10 ай бұрын
Really missing your content and hoping that Beta hasn’t taken you out of the market 😂! There have been so many new products coming into this space, with so many new wings and boards. Your reviews were always so well done and informative. Hope we can look forward to more!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief 10 ай бұрын
Working on it! Thanks for the vote of confidence! I appreciate you taking the time to let me know
@soronir3526
@soronir3526 11 ай бұрын
I didn't know this was a thing that even existed, I find it fascinating.
@Tribe-watersports
@Tribe-watersports Жыл бұрын
So cool! Great work on charging forward with the sport!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@cochese18
@cochese18 Жыл бұрын
Wow gotta thank the KZbin algorithm here, I didn't know this sport existed till today. Looks like you've got a well developed channel excited to dig in!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
How cool! Thanks for leaving these kind words. If I can help, let me know!
@Subscribe2Glide
@Subscribe2Glide Жыл бұрын
Looks like a flawless design. I wonder if future versions will go from the 2100cm2 front wing up to 2400cm2 for the 200lb dudes. Great work !
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Todd spent a very long time arriving at this Goldilocks solution … he tried more area and less area. And more span and less span. And more sweep and less sweep. He selected the best for low power pumping and good handling
@jeffw8218
@jeffw8218 Жыл бұрын
I know one person who wants to buy one 🤷‍♂️ And he’s the guy in this video.
@DarwinVanDyke
@DarwinVanDyke Жыл бұрын
Just imagine how many more Power Pumper hats you’ll need to send out 😂 this is truly inspiring & incredible, I still can’t believe it, amazing
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
I didn’t think about that part. My daughter will be working overtime now, packing up those hats!
@dachopper1
@dachopper1 Жыл бұрын
Now, I want to see a deep water start by swimming furiously until you lift out of the water :)
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Me too!!!!
@martingraser6938
@martingraser6938 21 күн бұрын
Wow! Brilliant and a great idea!!
@darrellbrown8547
@darrellbrown8547 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Just WOW!
@venkuzephyr
@venkuzephyr 2 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I've been looking for. I've been spinning my wheels with kites, wings, and groaning at the price of efoils. I wanted to foil for long distances without depending on wind or motors. This is it. I want to buy one as soon as they open back up.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief 2 ай бұрын
Pls sign up for the newsletter on the website. We don’t expect the supply to satisfy the demand, so it’s important you be notified when they’re back in stock.
@venkuzephyr
@venkuzephyr 2 ай бұрын
@@WakeThief Absolutely! I know you said that they don't carve, but were you able to experience how the Beta foil is affected by a wake?
@WakeThief
@WakeThief 2 ай бұрын
@venkuzephyr yes. It doesn’t surf easily. The wake is harder to maneuver / cross than with shorter span foils.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief 2 ай бұрын
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@Jochumvideos
@Jochumvideos Жыл бұрын
wow this seems really cool, but also expensive. Good luck with the project
@ProjektHeld
@ProjektHeld Жыл бұрын
Just incredible! Great effort 👍
@Pete_R63
@Pete_R63 11 ай бұрын
How did I miss this video? So cool! I have a guess, it was released on my birthday and I was scuba diving in Bonaire so I guess I was a little preoccupied. Looks really great!
@CaptainPaulClarke
@CaptainPaulClarke Жыл бұрын
This is epic!! Well done. We need to get one of these onboard 🤙
@collegepros
@collegepros Жыл бұрын
So cool!
@bluecollarcrypto69
@bluecollarcrypto69 11 ай бұрын
Wow I'm absolutely blown away!! Intermediate skate and snow boarder here I've surfed a few times and didn't like the idea of having to catch a wave or worry about the tides etc. This is a get up and go sport. Brings brand new life to surfing !
@daisiedragon
@daisiedragon 4 ай бұрын
May be an odd comment, but bear with me! I'm constantly on the lookout for strange and niche things. Animals, sports, currencies, theories, everything. It's my dream to bring my tv series idea into life, and this idea involves characters making regular visitations to diverse planets. So I need to take in a lot of new ideas that would previously be unfamiliar to a lot of people, but are still clever and useful. When i discovered foiling, it immediately brought to mind all of the possibilities this could serve if this were as common of a mode of transportation as, say, skateboarding. Just imagine this terrain surrounded by a still ocean, but with civilization living on narrow towers of land. Can you imagine the majesty of seeing people making their daily commute on these boards? So of course my first question is: can you ride indefinitely on them? Lo and behold, I find this video, which gives me a resounding: YES!! It's absolutely possible!! I simply cannot wait to incorporate this incredible, majestic sport into my world. The board featured in this video really gives all those whimsical ideas a solid basis in reality. Heck, if i didn't live in a desert, I would seriously consider this as a hobby for myself. Thank you for making dreams come true, and answering a very specific question about a very specific hobby. And I didn't even have to ask it! Fly on!!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief 4 ай бұрын
This is awesome! Thank you. I was out today ... this is just the beginning!
@daisiedragon
@daisiedragon 4 ай бұрын
@@WakeThief Readily awaiting more news on progress!
@terrablader
@terrablader Ай бұрын
Very inspiring, I wonder if anyone will ever find a way to watch from the water without having to use a doc
@davidshormann9621
@davidshormann9621 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing, congratulations!!!
@user-rr8hc8ls5n
@user-rr8hc8ls5n Жыл бұрын
I was really impressed and inspired by this! Definitely would want another video about it, maybe even about more technical parts, if it would make a good video!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Will do.
@user9b2
@user9b2 13 күн бұрын
Add a tall handlebar so you can control the tilting more effectively. Use a short surfboard so you float better when not moving or too tired to pump. The combination of handlebars and surfboard may allow you to launch without dry land as you can stand while stationary….. maybe. Like on an airplane, would wingtips increase efficiency?
@WakeThief
@WakeThief 9 күн бұрын
Some folks are using this with a board that has a handle bar.
@StandUpMagazin
@StandUpMagazin Жыл бұрын
This is pretty cool. Maybe we run a story on it? Very interested on turning capabilities of this thing.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Thank you. It does not turn as tightly as shorter span foils. I will show in future videos. Maybe 15m needed to full U-turn vs 10m for a foil with half the span. I will do a proper test and let all know! This is not a foil for carving or surfing.
@q8tennis
@q8tennis Жыл бұрын
Great Job ! well done
@Mephistopholies
@Mephistopholies Жыл бұрын
One leap twords flight achieved.
@windridermaui
@windridermaui Жыл бұрын
Looks really fun!
@gotlift2046
@gotlift2046 Жыл бұрын
We’re in!!🙌
@slo3337
@slo3337 Жыл бұрын
This is a good idea, curious how far it can be engineered. Looks like some fun in the sun for sure
@AdmV0rl0n
@AdmV0rl0n Жыл бұрын
I have a question. You are floating on a wing, and you use a pumping action that I assume uses a form of lift as thrust. I am noting that the pump action places nose down, and then nose up. I can't help thinking that this is screaming out for what I will say -- is akin to a dolphin tail. A flexible piece that has small winglets along its length and a small tail fluke. I believe that its movement would increase thrust (and perhaps some drag) - but overall, you want to exchange movement for thrust and more would be better.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
You’re right! We need to get back into this line of thinking. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZOqaqRniMt8q9k
@zdavatz
@zdavatz Жыл бұрын
Very nice! Thank you Devon! Send me one to Greece, so I can test it. ;)
@808bigisland
@808bigisland 4 күн бұрын
flies easely - a small 1m kite with 1m lines/bar might just do it together with a floating board. The big caveat is - this wing does not turn well...a single mast version?
@MartialArtUK
@MartialArtUK 4 ай бұрын
Epic viewing
@Sunni_days
@Sunni_days Жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome man. Congrats.
@user-sn6du2ho7n
@user-sn6du2ho7n Жыл бұрын
That may be the coolest thing ever
@joeskill4663
@joeskill4663 Жыл бұрын
Wow ..very cool..👍🏽
@DrjOnesfan8
@DrjOnesfan8 Жыл бұрын
ha this is Saratoga lake! I grew up rowing at SRA, too funny!!!
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Amazing!!!!!
@TheJustinJ
@TheJustinJ 7 ай бұрын
High aspect ratio wing, with large area. Means wide span, and less lift-induced drag. Twin struts and booms make sense, otherwise you get very large bending moments and lower stiffness. Burt Rutan inspired, I would say.
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 14 күн бұрын
Whag about a recurve wing that is pre bent? And isnt steel better than carbon for these tvings? Same stiffness, but smaller dimensions
@Twilightzoneisreal
@Twilightzoneisreal Жыл бұрын
Very cool!!!
@Bazakilouis
@Bazakilouis 10 ай бұрын
Very nice, i sold my efoil because it was just very boring. Just standing, not active. I love kite foiling but this looks like a very cool sport. Like jogging on the water. A good workout keep you fit. The price is still a bit out of budget
@miguelaguirre5915
@miguelaguirre5915 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this amazing development!. What's the minimum turning radius (sustained turn)? What's the gliding distance? Maximum speed? Typical maximum range speed ? Will you do a full review like the other foils? So many questions !
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Great questions. Guessing 15m u turn (10m on a smaller span). Ideal pumping speed has been 3.1 m/s for me at 180lb. Lots still to test / learn. I’ll get some measurements and share in future video
@Hotwire_RCTrix
@Hotwire_RCTrix Жыл бұрын
What I see is improved yaw stability and higher aspect ratio. What I never understood about these craft is a front stabilizer replacing the rear stabilizer. True it needs a mast but rear stabilizers can't be substituted anywhere on a fuse.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Yes. But if stabilizer is further back, it’s total area can be smaller (and introduce less drag).
@gsftom
@gsftom Жыл бұрын
Nice ad 😊
@dukegreened
@dukegreened 29 күн бұрын
that's great, how much do they cost. somehow I know the cost is going to make it a no go for most the people who would be drawn to them and be able to stay on. my guess, they debut at around 3k. aluminum framing, well thought out foil wing, and a skim board essentially. manufacturing cost once rolling i'd say would be about $70.00 per unit.
@politicalfoolishness7491
@politicalfoolishness7491 9 ай бұрын
I like everything about what I saw. I wonder if there could be a way for someone to start in open water. That may seem impossible but if there is a design idea that could accomplish it, that would be so cool. Perhaps some floatation under the board that gives a person a chance to mount the board in open water and then get going and once going the floatation is out of the way. Some clever design that allows the floatation to decouple from the water, sort of like float planes have the step to help with liftoff, but different for this situation.
@WakeThief
@WakeThief 9 ай бұрын
All great ideas … or even just make it easier to launch from a solid surface. Thanks for these.
@politicalfoolishness7491
@politicalfoolishness7491 9 ай бұрын
@@WakeThief You are welcome. With the open water solution, a person doesn't have to swim to shore like an eagle that caught too big of a salmon. LOL Also they could take a rest when tired out in open water.
@TheZombieSaints
@TheZombieSaints 9 ай бұрын
Good way to keep fit 👍
@MelindaGreen
@MelindaGreen 5 ай бұрын
I love all unpowered craft. I bet this will do well.
@nius_21
@nius_21 Жыл бұрын
Great Video ! love to test this one day.
@JetSurfingNation
@JetSurfingNation Жыл бұрын
endless summer!
@scottgorman7166
@scottgorman7166 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a winner for foiling. I have a few questions....1) how does it handle wind chop on larger lakes....it seems low to the water and 2) how do you make turns? Thanks
@fire17102
@fire17102 Жыл бұрын
Here's me hoping that this sport will become more accessible. Please make a 460$ version 4600$ is just insane. Amazing design, all the best !
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Yes. The price is high. It will become more accessible. The most economical foil is about $1000 for a board and foil.
@Zero.0ne.
@Zero.0ne. Жыл бұрын
This foil looks special. I prefer the word ride instead of fly, it's lower key.
@snorttroll4379
@snorttroll4379 14 күн бұрын
Lift foiling. Pumpsurfing foilpumping wing lifing
@rc3443
@rc3443 11 ай бұрын
hey, make it more floaty like a SUP board, with a pddle you can start in middle of ocean! you can't swim to a dock if you wipe out in middle of blue water, this is very promissing!
@shellrockguy9761
@shellrockguy9761 Жыл бұрын
This might actually become a viable mode of transport. Cross a large river/lake with no bridge, no motors, no battery’s. Faster than a kayak and much easier to transport
@krispewkrem3
@krispewkrem3 Жыл бұрын
I just use foils for surfing. But damn. It looks like you could damn near commute on this thing 😂 can’t wait to see what this unlocks
@adayinthelife5772
@adayinthelife5772 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see it in the surf
@JPPBOX
@JPPBOX Жыл бұрын
😮 Someone put one of these on a downwind board asap!
@CarkeekW
@CarkeekW Жыл бұрын
carve level 3 , glide level 9
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
Yes. It does not carve as tightly as a smaller span foil!
@JPPBOX
@JPPBOX Жыл бұрын
@@CarkeekW I just want to see if someone can ollie it up on flatwater with no additional aid, for science!
@rotormandan2657
@rotormandan2657 6 ай бұрын
I wanna see one that has a motor. It does look like it will fly efficiently!
@ALH84001K
@ALH84001K Жыл бұрын
Nice work - this looks amazing..
@tadasragauskas8466
@tadasragauskas8466 Жыл бұрын
design looks like glider plane long and narrow wings and dual mast give less flex and more rigidity
@MrSasuke67
@MrSasuke67 Жыл бұрын
This looks so cool ! I'm just starting to get interested into hydrofoil and I have absolutely no experience in foil surfing, I love the fact that this is purely human powered, without the need for waves or wind. I'm living far from the ocean and wanted to ask if the beta foil might be suitable for a complete beginner like me ? I'd be so happy to practice a watersport like this on the small lakes and rivers we have around where I live 😍
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
It’s certainly suitable for a beginner, as much as any foil is. This sport is tough, and takes some practice (and patience), so if you’re committed, I’d go for it. If you have a budget, you could always find a used setup to test your interest first.
@mankindw1
@mankindw1 Жыл бұрын
I bought one and looking forward to it!!!
@aleshaborisovich
@aleshaborisovich 6 ай бұрын
Did you try it? How is it?
@kalinamckee-koa-puna-kona
@kalinamckee-koa-puna-kona 7 ай бұрын
I have two efoils. I totally love efoiling. But...the battery only last like 40 minutes then it's back to shore I go without burning any calories or muscle. I would definitely be interested in your board if it was possible to get back on from the middle of the ocean when you fall off and continue on. I would love the exercise and muscle toning that this board would give me.
@storkbreath
@storkbreath 7 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to figure out a way to start from in the water at a dead stop like if you fall off or need to rest.
@keizogates
@keizogates Жыл бұрын
rad, nice work guys.
@NathanFlorence
@NathanFlorence Жыл бұрын
Very cool!! Curious do you think some of the extended length was you getting more fit cause you were pumping so much? Like your endurance was going up? The latest beta looks very cool! Either way for sure the glide looks to have improved which is exciting
@WakeThief
@WakeThief Жыл бұрын
I suppose it’s possible but not likely given I set my last record later in the season last year when I was more fit, and lighter (which makes it easier to fly) and this record was 5x longer than my previous personal best. These pump durations are really hard to test back to back across different foils. Also because technique matters so much and each foil has a unique technique.
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