Walls and Trebuchets! (Low Elo Legends)

200 Elo Legends have an interesting take on Yucatan.. It kinda reminds me of a Fatslob game!
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[@crimson_grog172]

I actually prefer low/mid Elo games over high Elo ones. They feel more like how the game was "meant" to be played, with large armies clashing and off-the-wall strategies, rather than the game being decided because one pro was able to micro their 3 militia better than the other.

[@spinyslasher6586]

The original devs who made the game probably played more like these players than someone like Viper.

[@robertlewis6915]

Yeah, high level play is usually boring. Occasionally I enjoy a game, but generally I only really want to watch LEL.

[@EugeneOneguine]

Just play Arena, that's what I do. You still have that big army vs big army clashing without need for too much micro, and you can still do it by competitive standards.

[@EugeneOneguine]

@@robertlewis6915 To each his own. I enjoy a LeL from time to time, but it can be hard for me to sit through so much frustrating decisions and mistakes. There's something very exciting about optimal plays duking it out to exploit the slightest weakness of the opponent in pro games.

[@robertlewis6915]

@@EugeneOneguine I'm a spectator who doesn't play and doesn't care too much about learning what's optimal. Different perspective, I guess. I have enjoyed some pro games; MbL has made some awesome ones. I just prefer the ones that are a bit wacky. Keeps me engaged, where I get bored dealing with near-perfect micro vs just slightly more perfect micro, backed up by impressive macro

[@some_gh0st]

When I was a young lad playing AoE1 campaigns, I was having trouble on the first Greek mission as I could not survive having multiple enemies (this was my first video game so there was a lot to learn). I definitely checked out books from the library to research ancient Greeks and also definitely tried killing their scouts before they could report back to the main camp 😂

[@OPiguy35]

Amazing!

[@relishcakes4525]

10/10, solid commitment.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

Similar but unrelated: I convinced my elementary school to let me install Stronghold Crusader as a research aid because it had a historical campaign. Then they saw a town burning with all the people running and screaming lol. Did write a paper on all the battles in the campaign tho. 10/10 5th grade experience.

[@Nagassh]

I just want to echo that LEL is the most interesting thing on your channel for me. I don't really watch AOE2 stuff, I didn't grow up with it and was into other strategy games like Dune / C&C, but watching people with no idea of a meta figure out their own strategy in a strategy game is fascinating, especially when commentated by someone who DOES know the intricacies of the game.

[@matttondr9282]

Same!

[@LeftJoystick]

This is such a fun way to play Age of Empires. Big, walled cities duking it out.

[@JohnLeePettimoreIII]

35:37 arrow loops/slits point horizontally to fire outward. murder holes are more vertically oriented in entry ways and curtain walls for firing DOWN on invading troops. murder holes are often installed in the entries of castles between two portcullises so units are stopped at the inner portcullis and are forced to endure things raining down on them from above (such as human/animal waste, hot oil, arrows, etc)

[@LoneWanderer727]

You know when red has 39 vils in DARK AGE with 11 vils in the queue, things are gonna get spicy 😂

[@TheVarrio]

T90 might not be pregnant but he always delivers 🔥💯💪

[@UglyBuckle]

😤😤☔☔🌊💧When he rains he pours🌊🤑💧🌧️🌧️💪👀👀

[@JosrRocks]

I thought he was going to miss his daily upload!

[@Danthemighty1985]

I'm going to use that sentance mate, well worded

[@MemeG27]

Lmao

[@NPChuman]

I want to like your comment so bad but the comedy gold that is this comment with the number of likes is too good.

[@devonspears8303]

i’m sure you probably scroll through your comments every now and then! BUT HOLY CRAP i love the way you present these games and ohhh boy am i having a blast playing too (600ish elo) ahahahahah

[@VonUndZuGeist]

Be carefull or you'll be the next on Low Elo Legends.

[@thanossnap4170]

@@VonUndZuGeist That would just be an honour.

[@SuchCharm]

Gl, hf ❤

[@minikawildflower]

This game was an absolute banger live, I was living and dying with the blue scout.

[@memoreno9]

This was so wholesome because we all have been at this stage. So hilarious

[@spinyslasher6586]

@Andreas Breu yes we have. Nobody starts out playing RTS like a pro.

[@mafubaa]

Every time I watch these 200-400 ELO games i ask myself the same thing: How do you keep losing and losing and reach that ELO without getting frustrated and quitting the game?

[@BattalionMouse]

TBF, once they hit their true rating, they win/lose just as much as anyone else -- around 50%. They might have had a lot of losses on the way down from 1000 where they first were placed, but so does everyone. IDK how many losses it takes to hit 200 ELO from 1000 though, it was probably a good bit

[@FacialVomitTurtleFights]

Easy bots get boring lol

[@TheZeagon]

because not everyone plays for elo

[@mafubaa]

@@TheZeagon Everybody plays for fun, and losing over and over again is not enjoyable.

[@treepotato9273]

@@mafubaa I think losing is just as fun as winning, you're still playing the game no matter what the result is and I enjoy playing the game. I just feel bad for people who can't enjoy something unless they're beating another person, that's gotta suck.

[@firemyst9064]

I love that these guys play the games the way they want to. They're enjoying the game at their own pace and build about the map however they see fit! Those are legends in my book.

[@travwinner2]

I remember building walls and towers, then loading them up with 5 archers a piece 😅

[@Dorfjunge]

The Devs need to buff that game style! xDDD

[@Jimmy911ism]

What's wrong with that?

[@jonthemediocre626]

@@Jimmy911ism You get MUCH better use out of your archers if you use them to raid enemy economy or push enemy military. archers take up population space and take resources and time in a production building to make. But it's fun to garrison archers!

[@caseyb1346]

@@jonthemediocre626 play as Japanese and research yasama. have your cake and eat it too

[@snowisthebestweather]

I don't know if anyone saw, but blue said he was in chat pretty early in this game, which is probably why he closed off that gap in the wall so quickly and then started going for relics shortly after you mentioned them.

[@benal-shaikh8682]

Time stamp?

[@snowisthebestweather]

@@benal-shaikh8682 Found it. 7:17: "I'm blue, haha always forgetting my houses"

[@spinyslasher6586]

@@snowisthebestweather wow with that context a lot of action blue takes make a whole lot more sense.

[@prohunter717]

If that's true, the dude got a free coaching session.

[@spinyslasher6586]

@Nathan given just how perfect the timing was, and how blue also later reacted to opponent's trebs, I think that was blue.

[@etherraichu]

Me: I cant sleep and I'm bored. What can I do to kill some time? T90: Walls and Trebuchets

[@leviathan1832]

loving the yucatan spotlights. Used to play it against AI all the time once I got Conquerors dlc and felt like it mixed some of my favorite gameplay from different standard map types like arabia and black forest, but having warmer colors and turkeys(!).

[@MasterHigure]

43:00 Town centers are the same. You can walk underneath them when they are done, but while they are under construction they are solid. So it makes sense from a coding standpoint to just use the same property for gates.

[@Whisper0ak]

It makes sense if that's what the developer wants. Just because it MAY be easy to reuse a function in coding, that isn't a reason to do it. Somebody could write a programs of only repeating zeros. They have existing zeros, so it makes sense to use the same code again and make more zeros. It's so efficient! but still a potato.

[@MasterHigure]

@@Whisper0ak It doesn't have to be what the developer wants. It just has to be close enough to what the developer wants. And this could reasonably be considered close enough. Especially for a 25 year old game, where standards were a bit lower. Your silly example is just a useless hyperbole.

[@natrixnatrix]

When I was a kid I didn't really speak English so any technology not explained by its picture was pretty much deemed worthless. I knew you sometimes could make hand cannoneers and bombard towers but I had absolutely no clue how or why I usually couldn't.

[@Kevin-zt7lb]

I blame the AI for teaching us to fear the darkness. As soon as you poked the AI it would send EVERYTHING at you, so exploring was genuinely dangerous.

[@channelname8623]

the treb battle was hilarious. poor guys really gave that all their attention haha. id love to see them play a game of starcraft.

[@treepotato9273]

Hey T90, you know why people are 200-400 ELO know the basics these days? It's because of you. It's because of your "older brother showing younger sibling how to play" style of teaching/casting. The "HA! it's funny that you did that silly mistake but also here's how to not make that mistake next time" method really works. You're part of a very small group of people who are actively improving both the game and the playerbase.

[@rafaelsodre_eachday]

The story about the scout and his village was surprising. The narration of the game unfolded. This T90 guy is the type of person who have been pushing humankind forward for all these times. The ultimate frontier.

[@megaubogi]

This has a strong Husky's bronze league heroes vibe, back when he was playing and casting StarCraft

[@Whisper0ak]

That's why I'm here. I'm still trying to fill that hole that Husky left. T90 isn't the same vibe.. but It's something i guess :/

[@paradigm9061]

T90, I like these stream excerpts here on KZbin. I know you have been transitioning into more standalone casts for your YT channel, but I love your casts from your streams (with the audience interaction and unknown endings)

[@captaintofu4926]

I find your low elo legends videos encouraging and I think with your viewer range, you made an impact on the community

[@mrlucasftw42]

One time in AoE when I couldn't beat the computer - I ferried villagers over a river and chopped a hole in the trees and looped in from behind to break the stalemate.

[@nathanfranks1476]

God, red has the most perfect, snug, wall-able nook of a base. God, im getting secondhand jealous

[@JosrRocks]

Thank you for sticking to daily uploads! Love LEL !

[@leohsindhflcjqvafpf]

I sincerely laughed out loud when you started roleplaying the scout. Please do more roleplay!

[@ThePizzaCraft]

The scout cav monologue 🤣

[@sigurdtheblue]

This was great to watch and your commentary ended up working perfectly.

[@brads8143]

i almost want more LEL featuring scout stories.

[@Th3UprightMan]

Praise the lord, a reall-time stream cast! Don't know about the rest, but this to me is much better, game presentation wise. Your engaging personality quirks shine through these a lot more than the videos-for-youtube we've had for nearly a week.

[@mrbunny6203]

As a kid i always thought the gold/stone upgrades would make it x% last longer because the second mine upgrade picture shows you a deeper mine.

[@erikwolf3610]

T90 please stream more LEL I live for that.

[@indraallian6371]

And another thing. I always put archers inside castles and towers. Its very effective when you play aginst the AI. Your archers are protected and a Castle with 10-12 archers in it one shot mots units. Towers also benefits greatly when packed with archers. 😎

[@maurice5402]

I love your videos. Such a chill, positive vibe and aoe is endlessly interesting!

[@robertferrill6009]

Those are arrow slits on the SIDE of the castle. A murder hole is at the top of the castle or wall. The crenellations would stick out a bit and there is a hole that liquids or rocks and arrows can be shot from.

[@Dogedoge337]

God I love whenever you make these roleplay comments lmao

[@BattalionMouse]

I suddenly cared *so* much about the scout once he gave it the whole backstory lmao

[@Zeredek]

Some Low Elo notes here: 1) The scout running around in the base for a while instead of going out to scout wasn't just that he was scared, but because the player was worried the red scout who got in was from a forward stable he hadn't seen. 2) The "houses at the edge of the map" strategy is based on pretending that your city in the game is just the edge of a much larger city off-map (Notice how there was a gate protecting those houses as well, so they're not unprotected.) And by having such a large city that you're just a small edge of it, how could you possibly lose?

[@ghaznavid]

This is what happens when the stoppable force meets the movable object.

[@XTheLolX301]

Lol red saying "im bored" in the end

[@eldenmox5525]

Yucatán has been my favorite lately but I had a match the other day that spawned me next to my opponent but all my recourses on the other side of him and it also gave me no wood. Was super weird. Literally all the wood on my side of the map was gone. I tried to do a quick rush to take some of the recourses but it was hopeless lol

[@michaelschroers2705]

Good game and really entertaining commentary as usual T90. I was thinking around the 30 min mark though what a high elo player would do in each of the players situations. Is there a way to have a game where the low elo plays set up a couple high elo plays who then take over the game?? That would be interesting to watch.

[@cn9707]

low elo is by far the most entertaining to watch. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll face palm so hard you break your forehead. Much better than watching some nerds micro 3 archers 1 monk and a mango.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

This is one of the best games you've casted. Genuinely could have gone either way.

[@Volkaer]

13:35 - Yeah I agree about those houses - how would the horses get out of the stable if there's a bunch of buildings in front?

[@UvReflexes]

1:04:37 It actually may not have been harder to misclick the gate. Blue was trying to click the left tower of the gate, but because it was blocked by the large trees he clicked the wall instead trying to avoid it.

[@fajarn7052]

Oh man, back when I was still in grade school, I played the William Wallace campaign, I think it was the 4th one, the one that require you to destroy a watch tower. Back then, I barely understand any English at all, so even the voice, "Don't forget, keep exploring the map!" was playing on repeat scared me shitless. I muster everything I can before even attempting to do anything. I think I bring around 50+ troops to attack the tower. Nevermind exploring the map lol, I was even scared by the voice. I've played many campaign on repeat, but never the William Wallace one...still gives me the creeps to this day, I guess it was because I was assaulted by the looping voice for a long time..mind you, I didn't finish that scenario in one sitting haha, took me days.

[@helmuthelmlos5067]

murder holes are inside the gates, to shoot arrows, crossbowbolts or poke with pikes, arrow slits are on walls, and towers to shoot out arrows, updatedarrow slits are crosses, which are first of all super thematic in europe and they allow bows and crossbows

[@dustindonahue7477]

This made me feel very good about my gameplay. Thank you

[@Dlewis0901]

WOOO! Late night upload, thanks T90!

[@murdercubes4968]

An accurate reenactment of the 100 year war

[@indraallian6371]

GG WP! Oh my what a great game! And what a great commentary. T90 never stop doing LEL please. Your style of commentry suits so well to this types of games. About heated shots. To me it makes perfect sense. You shoot fire arrows against ships to set them on fire. Very logic. An arrow kills a human just as much with or without fire. But to ships, fire arrows are devastating. So conclusion: Heated shots are just the right neme for its purpose. Problem is that many people avoid water maps couse they are more complicated than land maps. So instead of calling heated shots a noob bait explain why its logic and encourage people to play more water maps. 😎

[@Neomikus]

loved watching this! fun game to see

[@haaansolo8568]

Ohh very fast upload, fantastic, saw the first half of this live yesterday!! More low-low Elo please!! Meaning sub400!!!

[@alexcaffri9091]

Man, red just crumbles under pressure

[@sandromartinez2417]

The "Housed" noise is the main reason why I play Huns.

[@fistfulofcheese]

1 hr lel game!! I am loving this 🎉🎉

[@JunSian1001]

I learned from this game that I should ALWAYS attack units with trebuchet. LOL

[@BrownFoxWarrior]

I'd say the housing sound is like the gears of your economy grinding to a halt.

[@Dante-oo1cs]

This is amazing. Probably exactly the way i would play this. x) I would have been more emotionally attached to the scout thou.

[@Dogedoge337]

lmao I never stopped to imagine what does the housed sound effect sound like. Nothing like a good 200 ELO game where we analyse the housed sound To me it sounds like a very fat man crouching and his pants rip

[@sleeplesshollow4216]

Murder holes were trapdoors in the floor you would open up when people were beneath you in castles to shoot arrows or drop stuff on them.

[@harz632]

I love how instead of placing 3 wall tiles to the edge of the map, red walls all the way alongside the edge. Also the chance to hit 3 out of 3 treb shots against a unit is 0.3375%

[@Auto_Learning]

These guys just did not want to leave their bases.

[@guyincognito1406]

Getting housed noise sounds like a string or rope being brought to tension with some filter on it.

[@duckdrake164]

I love low ELO games! As a new player, I'm trying to get my friends and family involved, but it looks like I will have to play randoms instead! Long-time watcher of the game, only recently have the capability to play. Top players wow me with their skill but after a while things get stale (from my perspective, perhaps inexperience?).

[@WayanMajere]

I think I already knew as a child that fire arrows deal less damage to humans - so I never thought it would affect anything in that regards. But I did get horse armor for my cav archers untill you pointed that mistake out in one vid...

[@thesocraticatheist9611]

well now I know why I never have fire on my arrows, mystery solved, thanks buddy.

[@axelvillanueva655]

i love LEL but sometimes it's stressful to watch it xD

[@napsac4816]

Conversion sound is scary 😂

[@JoycenatorGaming]

Paper money has always been a confusing tech for new players, so has ballistics versus siege engineers and chemistry

[@2rslvl126]

I just played for the first time in a year.. and I gotta say, these guys are better in dark age and feudal age than I am.

[@YTYTYTY7]

I thought that when treb dies the projectiles were nullified. Did it change?

[@ChuckNasty.]

Fairly confident you casted yhuma before

[@livndead548]

It's crazy how many maps we don't see, I play on xbox use to play on pc back in the day, and for instance Bohemia was great, Australia is fun as well.

[@sierrahhofzon3878]

Hello viewers. I just started watching T90 recently and loving it immensely! I planned to buy AOE2 DE for PC, and wanted advice whether to buy on steam or from microsoft website. I dont play much games at all, so I dont want to go for the game pass.

[@rizrizriz]

Just go with Steam.

[@iamUglie]

As riz said, Steam. It's much easier to be invited by friends into lobbies. Often MS version bugs out and you don't show up for long periods of time.

[@sierrahhofzon3878]

@@iamUglie I see! I also heard that for ms version you have to pay extra aside from buying the game if I want to play multiplayer. Do you know if is that true?

[@sierrahhofzon3878]

@@rizrizriz thanks riz!

[@iamUglie]

@@sierrahhofzon3878 isn't think that's true, but I have no first hand experience with playing the MS version. Maybe this is something spun off of Xbox Live? If that's still a thing.

[@capincrunch1184]

I was hoping they would run out of wood 😂

[@andyxprophet]

What a fantastic watch. LOL.

[@JasmineJacindaPlaysChannel]

that longbow in gate is traitor, he has been paid to open the gate

[@NemesisTheOne-x3z]

Bro. The getting housed sound is a maraca

[@rbhatt2247]

From the thumbnail I'm hoping this is the MBL vs FreakingAndy black forest game

[@iamUglie]

Time to go to bed!

[@wayeb7715]

Did it bother anyone else that Britons were blue and Franks were red? Just.... didn't sit right

[@Jimmy911ism]

Me! I kept thinking about Last Of The Mohicans and the fact it was set in the Americas.

[@eldenmox5525]

You mentioned confusing techs and for me I play Byzantine’s and want to go fire ships but I can’t figure out how to upgrade them. I just keep checking back at the dock until it lets me but I guess there is a tech you need first but it doesn’t say which one it is.

[@donjoncraig6804]

you need war galley it says in the tech tree that requirements are unlocking war galley first

[@eldenmox5525]

@@donjoncraig6804 damn really? I’m on Xbox and I looked all over to find but couldn’t, thanks!

[@Evan_Milborrow]

Now hear me out.... Trebuchet Nothing. No military units other than trebuchets 😂

[@jn1mrgn]

Making archers as Franks is one thing, but when you're playing against a civ that may have the best archers, and your civ has some of the best cavalry, it's just ridiculous on multiple levels.

[@OPiguy35]

Absolutely excellent content

[@HowDoYouTurnThisOn_]

Franks and Britons meet each other again at the 200 elo wars

[@willsteps7162]

Awesome Storytelling xD

[@praevasc4299]

Woooow, sub 300 ELO starts with two houses, goes on food, and lures boar, and blocks the boar with sheep (ok, the latter might have been by accident), building lumber camp right next to the trees and before building a mining camp, reasonably low TC idle time, housewalling.... I'm impressed! So people sub 300 ELO now have at least some idea about how to play the early game at least, and might even have some build orders they try to follow.

[@CJ-111]

GO BLUUUUEEE!!!! Wish i could play games like this though 😂

[@aaronarguijo8293]

You acually do shepard turkeys in mexico and yucatan

[@CJ-111]

Some nice onomatopoeia from the chat 😂

[@torqueblue]

I Think i said this before, I don't remember what video. I can't help but wonder if New players research Coinage based off the Tech from Age Of Empires. When you researched Coinage in AoE1 it was at the Market and It did increase Mining speed and carry limit and Increased the Value of Gold Deposits.

[@Squishydew]

I love being a bad player.. I see red stacking up all their buildings, hear t90 laughing about it, and I'm just thinking "omg, i should do that!" honestly hope i never get good, game is more interesting this way xD

[@emmaross4530]

anybody got the name of the 'RP' vid/game T90 talks about at 4:12 ?

[@nathanfranks1476]

When i saw That 5 tile wall for a 2 tile gap at 12:00 I literally yelped…god that was hard to watch

[@LucianoSchiffer93]

"ME ABURRE" jajajajajajajjaja

[@allanturmaine5496]

I think the noise is like "T! Ttltltltltltltl!"

[@allanturmaine5496]

Wait, I think I'm trying to mimic the age up noise.