2:17 The current version of P22Q also has two important updates/changes that you forgot to mention: The deletion of the internal lock (this came with the release of P22Q, in 2011), and the reinforcement roll pin at the back corner of the slide stop notch (not sure when this was added to the P22Q). The P22, when it was first released, had issues with slide cracking (the slide is made from ZAMAK/zinc alloy/pot metal), so that roll pin to spread out the impact of the slide stop is a very important improvement for the longevity. The captured guide recoil spring/guide rod, from what I read, didn't come with P22Q in 2011, but was part of the P22QD that was released in 2017. When Walther/Umarex discontinued the QD, they kept the captured rod for the P22Q. The P22 laser thing, from my experience, was the biggest piece of crap that I wasted $118 on. I bought my P22 back in 2010, one year before the release of P22Q. I got hold of the laser in 2011, thought the price was okay. It lasted about a little over a year before it died. I think I ran through two sets of batteries in total. For that price, Umarex should have hired Crimson Trace, LaserMax, or even Surefire to do the job, instead some Chinese toy maker as contractor :)
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@cruepprich Жыл бұрын
Shot mine for the first time today. Fun shooting experience for sure. My small hands have no issues with the size. Had a few jams with Remington.
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@michaelchilders44922 жыл бұрын
I just bought one for my son to learn to shoot with. I’m excited to see him use it.
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@Me2Lancer3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review. I agree that my Walther P22Q has not been picky with ammo. Mine handles well and compares favorably with my M&P 22 Compact and my Taurus TX22.
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@Me2Lancer3 жыл бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 Yes, I have liked and subscribed to this channel.
@montydaniels10542 жыл бұрын
Great review. Just picked one up this morning on sale at Dunham's. No Laser but I can pick that up anytime...
@mickmacstabletopreviews84662 жыл бұрын
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@eriklundquist16573 жыл бұрын
VERY HELPFULL! I have had a p22q for about 6 months and will almost certainly get the target barrel. I just got the ccp in both 9mm and .380 and I like them ALMOST as much as the .22, so your comparisons to the those and other Walthers were GREATLY appreciated. I have been debating on the laser so, again, I really appreciate this review. I am wondering what the laser looks like on the ccw and weather it would swap over well so if you can show that I would be very grateful, especially if you also have the longer barrel to show at the same time. Thanks VERY much!
@mickmacstabletopreviews84663 жыл бұрын
As for the Walther P22Q laser, it is specifically designed for the P22Q. I installed the HiLight P3GL laser and tactical light combo ($60) on my CCW, but there are slim laser only solutions available out there if that's your interest. Viridian makes one specifically for the CCW for about $130. See viridianweapontech.com/e-walther-ccp Thanks for watching and thanks for the positive comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@eriklundquist16573 жыл бұрын
Really good info. Thanks so much!
@dbzownz12345 Жыл бұрын
Just went to my local gun shop & they said this P22Q isn't reliable at gun range or can be but will need consistent cleaning. Have you any experience with this? First time going for a firearm, so I'd like personal experience, thanks!
@eriklundquist1657 Жыл бұрын
@@dbzownz12345 Mine took about 75 rounds to become 100% reliable with MANY different types of cheap AND expensive ammo. I was pretty upset until after the SHORT break-in period, I am loving it and two other Walthers now. .22 ammo is dirtier than almost if not all other ammo, so, any .22 should be cleaned more frequently. I believe all guns should be cleaned after every use for maximum life anyway. Also, Walther customer service was very good to me both times I called. Once about pricing on the target barrel and once about the used CCP that I bought and they sent me a free part that the previous owner wasn't careful with and damaged
@lorddiablo85753 жыл бұрын
The retail price here in CA just for a 2nd Gen P22 w/o Laser Pointer is $380- + Tax + Background check .... You got an Excellent Deal !
@mickmacstabletopreviews84663 жыл бұрын
I understand. I have relatives in CA (although some have recently left CA). Fortunately, I live in a state that has reasonable laws and taxes. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@lorddiablo85753 жыл бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 Yeah, CA is crazy expensive ( Sales Tax is 10.25% ) and I plan to move to other state for my retirement... Perhaps overseas like those retired military guys ....
@fredjones28413 ай бұрын
Now in 2024 another 11 percent tax was added.
@lorddiablo85753 ай бұрын
@@fredjones2841 Not only guns, but also ammo starting July 1st ....
@hamacus Жыл бұрын
Nice review!
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@johnbyrne80243 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, great review.. I absolutely love my P22 I cannot get it to jam,misfire or fail to eject it’s just a great little pistol! The only problem I’m having is trying to get hold of the laser sight as I’m told it’s discontinued by Walther but it seems to be available in the states! I’m just wondering if you could help me getting hold of one for me? I’m in Ireland and I’d love one..
@mickmacstabletopreviews84663 жыл бұрын
Good to hear your P22 is running well. Sorry to hear you're having difficulties obtaining the laser sight for it. I see it available through Amazon and eBay, but I'm not sure if that helps you. There are also suppliers like Optics Planet that might be willing to ship one to you. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching and thanks for the positive comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@johnbyrne80243 жыл бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 Hi buddy thanks for your kind reply, I’m still unfortunately trying but I’ll get one eventually.. hope you’re still enjoying yours and keeping well🙂 🇮🇪
@momotyson64282 жыл бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 is this gun good for a beginner ?
@momotyson64282 жыл бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 is this gun good for self defense what is the best ammo ?
@momotyson64282 жыл бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 is the laser a joke or is it good ?
@lewjac3 Жыл бұрын
Great video, is the guide rod metal?
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 Жыл бұрын
It is indeed. And the rod and spring are encapsulated as well. Pretty nice. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@streetcrab875 Жыл бұрын
Da/Sa? I’ve always had to rack the slide to chamber a round.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 Жыл бұрын
Double/Single action refers to the trigger "action" of course, but "charging" or cambering a round will require racking the slide regardless. Thanks for taking the time to comment. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@jn37503 жыл бұрын
What is the most accurate round for this gun, do you know? Thanks.
@mickmacstabletopreviews84663 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about "accurate", but many would say the "best ammo" would be Federal Premium .22 LR Gold Medal Ammunition, Hornady .22 Magnum Rimfire Ammunition and CCI Mini Mag Ammunition. They are all considered very good. Personally, I like CCI because it's readily available in my area and I've had excellent results with it. Thanks for watching and thanks for the positive comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@WeAreNotGoingBackEver11 ай бұрын
Where's the link to the lasers?
@mickmacstabletopreviews846611 ай бұрын
waltherarms.com/p22-laser-sight is the location for the laser for the Walther P22Q. However, you might want to check out alternatives systems such as the Votatu H8L-G Pistol Light Laser Combo, Rechargeable Compact Green Laser Sight / 800 Lumens Tactical Flashlight with Strobe Function from AMAZON. Just go to AMAZON and search for Picatinny Rail handgun lasers. What I like about the P22Q is that it has the Picatinny rail system, but doesn't lock you into the Walther laser. Personally, I prefer a laser/tactical light combo with rechargeable capabilities and you can usually find one for a fraction of the cost. Trust me on this. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin and Rumble.
@Airedale7212 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
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@w55813 жыл бұрын
I just bought one today for $299, the only one they had at Academy Sports.
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@fidelcisneros84873 жыл бұрын
Hello yeah!!!
@chandlersmith47312 жыл бұрын
Does the laser work for the 9mm?
@mickmacstabletopreviews84662 жыл бұрын
I've tried it on a few other Walthers, like the 9MM CCP (does not fit) and the 380 PK380 (Surprisingly it does fit perfectly) so you'll just need to try it out on other models. Thanks for watching and thanks for the question. Hope my answer helped out. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@chandlersmith47312 жыл бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 thanks for responding so fast! Good to know! I definitely will, thank you
@richardlee44383 жыл бұрын
Good review.I have been wanting to get this or the Ruger or Taurus tx22. What online stores r good?
@mickmacstabletopreviews84663 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. I've never really had a serious problem with buying on-line. However, I'll give you what I consider to be my top two sites. I usually check out Bud's Gun Shop at www.budsgunshop.com/search.php?q=Walther+P22&type= first. They have the Walther P22Q today at $379. They ship for free and have good prices and a great selection. I like their service and my FFL likes dealing with them. Next I would check Grab-A-Gun at grabagun.com/firearms/handguns/semi-automatic-handguns.html?manufacturer=Walther&p=2 where they have the P22Q at $349. Also, good prices and selection. Thanks for watching and thanks for the question. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@jn37503 жыл бұрын
Academy has it for 299.
@kevinhullinger87432 жыл бұрын
Great pistol laser is not required 😉
@mickmacstabletopreviews84662 жыл бұрын
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@adonian3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a brand new grey/black one today for 299.00. Gotta wait 10 days 😣
@mickmacstabletopreviews84663 жыл бұрын
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@BobOstrander-z2o Жыл бұрын
Fort Smith, Arkansas not Arizona lol
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 Жыл бұрын
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@jackfinn1224 Жыл бұрын
This handgun has the reputation for being a "jam-o-matic", i.e.: failure to feed, failure to eject, AND suffers these problems even with high quality ammo. Mine is currently in the shop in Arkansas waiting for parts from Germany. After 1000+ rounds the ejector mechanism failed. On another point, and maybe this depends on the state, but extra magazines for this thing are $40.00 each! So if you like re-loading all day at the range the two mags that it ships with will give you hours of fun. Needless to say I am NOT very happy with this purchase. I can only recommend lots and lots of research before purchasing. Get out there and talk to real people who actually use the thing. Listen to their excuses. The critical question to ask is: would you want to rely on this gun in a self defense situation? (3 yards, 3 rounds, 3 seconds) Again, listen to their excuses.(gotta keep it clean, gotta use the "right" ammo etc.) Or my favorite ".22 isn't lethal" or "I carry a '9' for self defense". The question is: will it shoot reliably every time? If not, I would not waste money on this firearm.
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear. I can't say that I share the jamming problem you describe. However, yes, magazines will cost about $40 each. Gunmag Warehouse best price is $35 for Walther P22Q mags. Thanks for watching and thanks for taking the time to comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@txdave56692 ай бұрын
I bought a P22Q back in May and have had significant jamming issues with FTL and FTE problems with CCI Stingers and Velocitors, Federal Punch, and some Winchester ammo. Jammed on almost every round. Sent it back to Walther for warranty work... they replaced the barrel and sent it back to me. I still had the same jamming issues and contacted Walther again... they suggested I try CCI 40gr mini mags and Remington 40gr ammo. Well, to my surprise I was able to get thru 10 magazines of CCI mini mags with no issues at all. I was able to get thru 5 magazines of Remington Goldens with only minor issues. I guess I will be feeding it only CCI mini mags from now on.
@edlattina26383 жыл бұрын
Can't buy walther p22q in state of Illinois now because of the new melting point law
@mickmacstabletopreviews84663 жыл бұрын
Understood. Illinois, Minnesota and a couple of other states have laws intended to prevent the sale of "Saturday Night Special" type guns based on the melting point of their materials (800 to 1,000 degrees). Unfortunately, this also outlaws some really great reliable guns in those states. Thanks for watching and thanks for the positive comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@edlattina26383 жыл бұрын
@@mickmacstabletopreviews8466it says the fireing melting point of consecutive rounds fired you can not fire 10 rounds of 22 ammo to reach that melting point. And if they are talking about throwing the gun in a fire to melt it there are still numbers on the internal metal parts
@stephenmccarthy1597 Жыл бұрын
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@wilhelmvo63993 жыл бұрын
Don't waste your money these guns are hit or miss if they work well or not
@mickmacstabletopreviews84663 жыл бұрын
Obviously, compared to my Browning Buckmarks or Ruger Mark IVs, the Walther P22Q isn’t in the same class, but I can see why the P22Q is so popular. As an inexpensive trainer pistol for a novice it works quite well and I haven’t had any problems with mine. However, there are certainly more reliable and better buys out there. For example, in my opinion the Taurus TX22 (Guns & Ammo’s 2019 Handgun of the Year) is a far better 22 "trainer pistol" overall for less money. Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. Don't forget to like, share and subscribe. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.
@chainlighting56382 жыл бұрын
What a shame, my P22 came with changeable grip back straps and looks like they might fit your gun ?
@mickmacstabletopreviews8466 Жыл бұрын
But of course they would because as I mentioned at 3:08 and 7:15 in this review' mine has the changeable back straps too. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. If you haven't already, I hope you'll check out my other "Mick Mac" Tabletop Review videos on KZbin.