Walz stumbles early, Vance tries to recast himself in VP debate

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@janicebarbour4839
@janicebarbour4839 2 ай бұрын
Walz came across as honest and relatable and JD Vance as a slick used car salesman. And he kept justifying and lying about Trump. Done with that.
@j.sumner6999
@j.sumner6999 2 ай бұрын
You sound like a committed partisan avoiding reality.
@michaelangelo9119
@michaelangelo9119 2 ай бұрын
A fatal flaw in the debate is to defend Kamala you have to claim the vice president can’t do anything. So walz flunked the interview he has to claim the vice presidency is almost irrelevant so elect me?
@K.L.M.Online
@K.L.M.Online 2 ай бұрын
There’s a viral civics clip on KZbin that explains it clearly. Search “From abortion to immigration, college voters react to VP debate topics”
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
TRUE: Walz claims border "crossings down, compared to when Donald Trump left office" FALSE: Vance says Vice President Harris "became the appointed border czar" TRUE: Walz claims when Iranian missiles "did fall near U.S. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as 'headaches'" TRUE: Walz claims former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly called Trump "the most flawed human being he ever met." TRUE: Walz claims Vance has in the past said "there's a climate problem" and that Trump called climate change "a hoax" TRUE: Walz claims patients had to pay $800 for insulin before passage of Inflation Reduction Act during Biden administration FALSE: Vance claims prescription drugs are up about 7% under Biden, but under Trump, they went up just 1.5% over four years FALSE: Vance claims Harris has not invested in clean air, clean water or climate policy TRUE: Walz claims "the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history - 30% decrease in Ohio." MISLEADING: Vance says Minnesota law Walz signed says "a doctor that presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched, late-term abortion." [SEE: "Fact Check VP Debate 2024"]
@KimH-dn6zt
@KimH-dn6zt 2 ай бұрын
Walz is a knucklehead, vote, accordingly.
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
WATCH: "Rachel Maddow and MSNBC panel react to the vice presidential debate"
@ironbug9924
@ironbug9924 2 ай бұрын
@@BlueWave-k5y MSDNC is only propaganda.
@spicewood7790
@spicewood7790 2 ай бұрын
JD proved that he should be President some day .. of his Debate Club… Tim Walz should be Vice President for 2 terms and might be President for another 2 terms and he would STILL be younger than what Dementia DonOLD is today!
@arlosmith2784
@arlosmith2784 2 ай бұрын
Be honest: JD Vance came off as Abraham Lincoln; Tim Walz came off as a high school debater. No comparison . Vance could be the next President Reagan 🎉
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
WATCH: "Vance defended the 'chaotic, backward-looking' Trump vision" Vance said "I never supported a National Ban Abortion"
@ironbug9924
@ironbug9924 2 ай бұрын
@@BlueWave-k5y new account, bad syntax, what nation are you from trying to influence our election with a lie? They don't support a national ban they support the issue going back to the states where it belongs.
@B2cAds
@B2cAds 2 ай бұрын
Good way to put it! Republicans, the party of Lincoln, are the party that fought a war to free slaves where democrats fought to preserve
@spicewood7790
@spicewood7790 2 ай бұрын
JD proved that he should be President some day .. of his Debate Club… Tim Walz should be Vice President for 2 terms and might be President for another 2 terms and he would STILL be younger than what Dementia DonOLD is today!
@arlosmith2784
@arlosmith2784 2 ай бұрын
@@spicewood7790 Watch JD Vance become the next Ronald Reagan. 🇺🇲🎉 Tim Walz in contrast would cause Joe Biden to be remembered nostalgically 👎
@jean-lucprovidence-zr5my
@jean-lucprovidence-zr5my 2 ай бұрын
Civility, respectfulness some clashes overall JD Vance was better
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
TRUE: Walz claims border "crossings down, compared to when Donald Trump left office" FALSE: Vance says Vice President Harris "became the appointed border czar" TRUE: Walz claims when Iranian missiles "did fall near U.S. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as 'headaches'" TRUE: Walz claims former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly called Trump "the most flawed human being he ever met." TRUE: Walz claims Vance has in the past said "there's a climate problem" and that Trump called climate change "a hoax" TRUE: Walz claims patients had to pay $800 for insulin before passage of Inflation Reduction Act during Biden administration FALSE: Vance claims prescription drugs are up about 7% under Biden, but under Trump, they went up just 1.5% over four years FALSE: Vance claims Harris has not invested in clean air, clean water or climate policy TRUE: Walz claims "the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history - 30% decrease in Ohio." MISLEADING: Vance says Minnesota law Walz signed says "a doctor that presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched, late-term abortion." [SEE: "Fact Check VP Debate 2024"]
@K.L.M.Online
@K.L.M.Online 2 ай бұрын
Slick lies are still lies.
@waynehegland1314
@waynehegland1314 2 ай бұрын
I’m Tim walz I’m a knucklehead and I should be Vice president!!!!🤡🤡😢🤡😢
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
UESTION: Did Trump lose the election? Vance claims Trump "peacefully gave over power on Jan. 20" Vance: "It's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power on Jan. 20." Details: "What former President Trump did to undermine faith in our election system and disrupt the peaceful transfer of power is inexcusable", Sen. John Thune. Trump decided not to attend President Biden's inauguration on Jan. 20, the first president in more than 150 years to skip the ceremony where his successor is sworn in following a presidential election.
@K.L.M.Online
@K.L.M.Online 2 ай бұрын
Such a weird comment.
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
knucklehead ?? . WATCH: "Rachel Maddow and MSNBC panel react to the vice presidential debate" QUESTION: Did Trump lose the election? Vance claims Trump "peacefully gave over power on Jan. 20" Vance: "It's really rich for Democratic leaders to say that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power on Jan. 20." Details: "What former President Trump did to undermine faith in our election system and disrupt the peaceful transfer of power is inexcusable", Sen. John Thune. Trump decided not to attend President Biden's inauguration on Jan. 20, the first president in more than 150 years to skip the ceremony where his successor is sworn in following a presidential election. QUESTION: Obamacare? Vance says Trump could have destroyed Obamacare. Details: Vance is contradicted by Trump, who posted in 2017 that he wanted to "let Obamacare fail and then come together and do a great healthcare plan" to replace it. "I have concepts of a plan." Vance didn't give answers to 5-7 direct questions from the commentators.
@spicewood7790
@spicewood7790 2 ай бұрын
JD proved that he should be President some day .. of his Debate Club… Tim Walz should be Vice President for 2 terms and might be President for another 2 terms and he would STILL be younger than what Dementia DonOLD is today!
@jamesragsdale8202
@jamesragsdale8202 2 ай бұрын
Hit em Up! Most cathartic doing ever!
@stonecoldusa
@stonecoldusa 2 ай бұрын
Waltz failed miserably !
@CarlosIowa
@CarlosIowa 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think Vance did better, pending The Fact Checkers, but no Walz did not fail miserably. Trump failed miserably if you are looking for a bar. I'm glad for 95% of the time they were civil.
@thuypham3779
@thuypham3779 2 ай бұрын
Walz won for team Vance doing for himself if Trump going to jail ( truckload lies) Vance is more dangerous for Americans than Trump Vance will turn his back for Trump anytime
@JoseRafael-oc3xu
@JoseRafael-oc3xu 2 ай бұрын
Bullshit
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
QUESTION: Obamacare? Vance says Trump could have destroyed Obamacare. Details: Vance is contradicted by Trump, who posted in 2017 that he wanted to "let Obamacare fail and then come together and do a great healthcare plan" to replace it. "I have concepts of a plan." Vance didn't give answers to 5-7 direct questions from the commentators.
@marksharnsky5587
@marksharnsky5587 2 ай бұрын
​@BlueWave-k5y Obamacare was supposed to ensure every American. It was and is a failure.
@lizhorton5333
@lizhorton5333 2 ай бұрын
I’m a new citizen from Canada. Proud to vote TRUMP-VANCE. Debate rules were NO fact checking by moderators who BROKE the RULES and ONY fact checked JD. NOT FAIR! JD won debate anyway.
@s3enu
@s3enu 2 ай бұрын
Fact checking is necessary when lies are told with no rebuttal
@K.L.M.Online
@K.L.M.Online 2 ай бұрын
JD was spreading misinformation that has already negatively impacted the people of Springfield. I think putting the safety of innocent people above the rules is a higher priority.
@periwinklemcfee7274
@periwinklemcfee7274 2 ай бұрын
Actually the agreed upon rules allowed the moderators to clarify when necessary.
@katediehl4836
@katediehl4836 2 ай бұрын
Critically thinking people could recognize Vance was lying; how he appeared at the debate , what he has been saying prior to becoming Trump's running mate & since becoming his running mate. His seamless lies, deflection, and inability to be authentic was not lost on viewers. The media is clearly unable and has been unable to speak to truth during these Trump years...
@maxgamboltv9940
@maxgamboltv9940 2 ай бұрын
The PDDIdy guy why is he famous asking onhehalf of Kenyans😂😂
@AnnTeixeira-v3l
@AnnTeixeira-v3l 2 ай бұрын
Yep !!! JD can duke it out with Putin, Xi, Kim Jong , Iran et al. His Memmaw taught him well........be brave and don't back down. Bravo Memmaw !!! And his steely eyes !!!
@gnollman
@gnollman 2 ай бұрын
Vance came off as a slick used-car salesman, smooth, but you know he's lying, particularly when he comes out and whines that “The rules were that you guys weren’t going to fact check!” Walz came off as nervous, but passionate and authentic. It all depends on how gullible you are, I guess. You gonna buy that used car from the smooth- talking liar or the slightly awkward honest guy?
@marksharnsky5587
@marksharnsky5587 2 ай бұрын
I guess you can continue to believe the border is closed and the economy is great. How uneducated and gullable democrats have proven that they have become.
@johnjones-uc3ni
@johnjones-uc3ni 2 ай бұрын
Walz stumbled the entire debate
@lashonearl6548
@lashonearl6548 2 ай бұрын
We are the United States Of America and we are weak by no means! USA STRONG! WE THE PEOPLE!🔥 🇺🇸🦅
@JoseRafael-oc3xu
@JoseRafael-oc3xu 2 ай бұрын
Bullshit. US is a second rate country with a third rate political system…
@rayvac7743
@rayvac7743 2 ай бұрын
If so, why are we letting the communists democrats try to bring in a 1 world order open borders, shut down oil production, and have to buy at higher prices they let gates and China buy 500 of our farms and shut them down. So much more do your research.
@AncientBells
@AncientBells 2 ай бұрын
Walz did well. The Vance dance is nauseating..
@johnjones-uc3ni
@johnjones-uc3ni 2 ай бұрын
Walz did well? Are you blind and deaf?
@spicewood7790
@spicewood7790 2 ай бұрын
@@johnjones-uc3ni JD proved that he should be President some day .. of his Debate Club… Tim Walz should be Vice President for 2 terms and might be President for another 2 terms and he would STILL be younger than what Dementia DonOLD is today!
@winifredenyeji9687
@winifredenyeji9687 2 ай бұрын
Learn to hold the GOP to standards not only the Democratic Party
@RandyCapor
@RandyCapor 2 ай бұрын
After the debate Waltz is now voting Trump!
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can show a person the truth, but you can't make them think. This is what MLK Jr. meant when he said, "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"!
@ironbug9924
@ironbug9924 2 ай бұрын
@@BlueWave-k5y You are exhibiting this as you type. You are typing what you are told to think.
@RandyCapor
@RandyCapor 2 ай бұрын
@@BlueWave-k5y As a black woman I'm now working two Jobs under Biden/Harris. Under Trump I worked one. Fool me once shame on you... Fool me twice shame on me! I'm voting for change!
@K.L.M.Online
@K.L.M.Online 2 ай бұрын
@BlueWave-k5y Agreed!
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
@@RandyCapor Your a woman, but Randy is a man's name? Have you at least researched Project 2025, it's T's playbook. WATCH: "Former MAGA Insider SPILLS THE BEANS on Trump’s PLAN" Guinevere Nell, an ex-Heritage Foundation analyst now speaking out about the inner workings of the organization responsible for Donald Trump’s Project 2025 plan. WATCH: "Crockett RIPS Project 2025 (Part 1)" WATCH: "Crockett RIPS Project 2025 (Part 2)" WATCH: "MAGA Brings Project 2025 To Congress...And They Got EXPOSED" Hitler‘s version of this was called Gleichschaltung.
@GM-nr2jq
@GM-nr2jq 2 ай бұрын
I found Vance a little too slick, trying hard to be someone different from what we see daily…sorry, this independent is not buying what he’s trying to sell.
@1827sexy
@1827sexy 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, it weird how some people can’t see how this man can lie so well like he’s been doing
@emsnewssupkis6453
@emsnewssupkis6453 2 ай бұрын
So, a befuddled old man is what you want? Keep Biden, then!
@MsAltena
@MsAltena 2 ай бұрын
@@1827sexy Right. He seems to be a very experienced liar - totally past the time, where he would be ashamed about his own lies. Straight lying face.............
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
@@1827sexy FALSE: Vance says Vice President Harris "became the appointed border czar" FALSE: Vance claims prescription drugs are up about 7% under Biden, but under Trump, they went up just 1.5% over four years FALSE: Vance claims Harris has not invested in clean air, clean water or climate policy MISLEADING: Vance says Minnesota law Walz signed says "a doctor that presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched, late-term abortion." [SEE: "Fact Check VP Debate 2024"]
@marksharnsky5587
@marksharnsky5587 2 ай бұрын
Vance is a self-made American hero. The reason you leftists don't get it is the blue Kool-Aid you drink combined with your need to have the government take care of you.
@Siva_S
@Siva_S 2 ай бұрын
Walz: " border crossings are down since when Donald Trump left office " 10:10pm ET
@rayvac7743
@rayvac7743 2 ай бұрын
Lie😅
@dagvikings5340
@dagvikings5340 2 ай бұрын
Not even close, keep up the lies!
@johnjones-uc3ni
@johnjones-uc3ni 2 ай бұрын
Who is more out of touch with reality? Walz or Harris? Lol!
@IrmaVargas-rb1mu
@IrmaVargas-rb1mu 2 ай бұрын
Vance gave a master class in debate
@winifredenyeji9687
@winifredenyeji9687 2 ай бұрын
Since when has lies become master class experience
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
TRUE: Walz claims border "crossings down, compared to when Donald Trump left office" FALSE: Vance says Vice President Harris "became the appointed border czar" TRUE: Walz claims when Iranian missiles "did fall near U.S. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as 'headaches'" TRUE: Walz claims former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly called Trump "the most flawed human being he ever met." TRUE: Walz claims Vance has in the past said "there's a climate problem" and that Trump called climate change "a hoax" TRUE: Walz claims patients had to pay $800 for insulin before passage of Inflation Reduction Act during Biden administration FALSE: Vance claims prescription drugs are up about 7% under Biden, but under Trump, they went up just 1.5% over four years FALSE: Vance claims Harris has not invested in clean air, clean water or climate policy TRUE: Walz claims "the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history - 30% decrease in Ohio." MISLEADING: Vance says Minnesota law Walz signed says "a doctor that presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched, late-term abortion." [SEE: "Fact Check VP Debate 2024"]
@s3enu
@s3enu 2 ай бұрын
and lies .. one after another
@BlueWave-k5y
@BlueWave-k5y 2 ай бұрын
@@s3enu Here's a list: TRUE or FALSE: TRUE: Walz claims border "crossings down, compared to when Donald Trump left office" FALSE: Vance says Vice President Harris "became the appointed border czar" TRUE: Walz claims when Iranian missiles "did fall near U.S. troops and they received traumatic brain injuries, Donald Trump wrote it off as 'headaches'" TRUE: Walz claims former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly called Trump "the most flawed human being he ever met." TRUE: Walz claims Vance has in the past said "there's a climate problem" and that Trump called climate change "a hoax" TRUE: Walz claims patients had to pay $800 for insulin before passage of Inflation Reduction Act during Biden administration FALSE: Vance claims prescription drugs are up about 7% under Biden, but under Trump, they went up just 1.5% over four years FALSE: Vance claims Harris has not invested in clean air, clean water or climate policy TRUE: Walz claims "the last 12 months saw the largest decrease in opioid deaths in our nation's history - 30% decrease in Ohio." MISLEADING: Vance says Minnesota law Walz signed says "a doctor that presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide life-saving care to a baby who survives a botched, late-term abortion." [SEE: "Fact Check VP Debate 2024"]
@godblessthelessfortunate3175
@godblessthelessfortunate3175 2 ай бұрын
"THE RULES WERE YOU GUYS WEREN'T GONNA FACT CHECK!" (so I can continue to lie to the American people with impunity just like Trump, Faux, and their surrogates.) LMAO
@LadyD1979
@LadyD1979 2 ай бұрын
Well he corrected the fact checkers
@K.L.M.Online
@K.L.M.Online 2 ай бұрын
@LadyD1979 Continuing to lie is not “fact checking”. The moderator was more concerned with the people who are being targeted in Springfield and addressing misinformation that Vance is continuing to spread. This isn’t a game, people’ matter.
@LadyD1979
@LadyD1979 2 ай бұрын
@@K.L.M.Online what is he lieing about
@marciafierro4931
@marciafierro4931 2 ай бұрын
Walz WON, TRUTH always wins, absolutely character MATTERS 👍 JD Vance is the poster boy for Project 2025, keep watching 👀
@johnjones-uc3ni
@johnjones-uc3ni 2 ай бұрын
Are you saying Walz has character?
@Ten2More
@Ten2More 2 ай бұрын
Clear that Vance has no soul and will say anything for power. Concerning what he would do with power.
@emsnewssupkis6453
@emsnewssupkis6453 2 ай бұрын
Um, all Democrats are power hogs!!!
@foocoult
@foocoult 2 ай бұрын
hit em up? aaron blake became my fave like literally so like fast... i loveeeee hit em up 90s yay
@debrajohnson8030
@debrajohnson8030 2 ай бұрын
We certainly do not need a JD VANCE vice president , waltz was being to nice because he's a respectful person unlike Vance the real side of VANCE didn't come out and waltz should have said more to bring it out of him I would say there was no real winner here it was not what I would call a debate but a getting to know each other debate!
@johnjones-uc3ni
@johnjones-uc3ni 2 ай бұрын
Walz is a loser. Being unprepared is not being nice
@debrajohnson8030
@debrajohnson8030 2 ай бұрын
@@johnjones-uc3ni I think waltz did quit well he was truthful unlike Vance that told nothing but lies and they were LIES!
@spicewood7790
@spicewood7790 2 ай бұрын
@@johnjones-uc3ni JD proved that he should be President some day .. of his Debate Club… Tim Walz should be Vice President for 2 terms and might be President for another 2 terms and he would STILL be younger than what Dementia DonOLD is today!
@rosemariebredahl9519
@rosemariebredahl9519 2 ай бұрын
I hate Vance trying to invalidate any Harris/Walz plans by claiming anything desired by her should already have been done 😶 So, ... she's not allowed to have ANY plans going forward? 😤
@johnjones-uc3ni
@johnjones-uc3ni 2 ай бұрын
Well she did nothing for almost 4 years. Except let millions of illegals into our country. Americans deserve better!
@SalahUddinRubel-s3q
@SalahUddinRubel-s3q 2 ай бұрын
Love you American
@rodmanser7573
@rodmanser7573 2 ай бұрын
lame propaganda WP - no one listens to you anymore - they are tired of your gas lighting nonsense
@trevinoclark824
@trevinoclark824 2 ай бұрын
11:55 the issue with this is Tim said he was in China in April but a fact it was in August. so this is really irrelevant
@ironbug9924
@ironbug9924 2 ай бұрын
No, it shows he is a liar like when he lied about being in war.
@phamngocthuy1990
@phamngocthuy1990 2 ай бұрын
Trump , Ivanka have many many companies in china Look ! Everything Trump is a online salesman
@K.L.M.Online
@K.L.M.Online 2 ай бұрын
@ironbug9924 Stop it. Get out of your basement and go outside.
@spicewood7790
@spicewood7790 2 ай бұрын
The events of the Chinese pro-democracy movement were WAY MORE than just a one day event. It continued throughout that summer which Walz originally meant to say. He went to China during that summer, and no, Tim wasn’t in Tiananmen Square, it was used as a reference to the event that cracked down on the pro-democracy movement.
@sportsfreak33393
@sportsfreak33393 2 ай бұрын
Im normally the person who shakes my head at comments that start "the mainstream media..." However, in this case, the media coverage of this debate is a large part why candidates do not address policy, and they focus on personality. This applies to mainstream, local, late night shows, and youtube pundits. This debate was very in the details about policy, and as you mentioned, both sides were very agreeable, and cordial. However most pundits have said that this debate was boring, that candidates did not want to make news, and that the debate wasnt impactful.
@sportsfreak33393
@sportsfreak33393 2 ай бұрын
That being said, after the first 90s clip this video did a decent job of addressing the policy that came up.
@PrettyGoodLookin
@PrettyGoodLookin 2 ай бұрын
" Christ have mercy "...makes no sense.
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