WAPO columnist: Men are 'lost'

People "are seeing their male friends and loved ones struggle, look for direction and not know where to find it," says the Washington Post's Christine Emba. Scott Galloway adds, "Sex and companionship are huge motivators, and guardrails, for young men." The two join CNN's Michael Smerconish to discuss Emba's WaPo article. #CNN #News

[@NoSenatorson]

Young men already know what’s waiting for them at the end of getting educated, climbing the corporate ladder, working the long hours, asking for a date, marriage, and children. It’s being awarded with divorce, abandonment, parental alienation, and various forms of legal wealth extraction. Many older men around them are broken, lonely, and filled with regret. Can we blame them for checking out?

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

And getting beat up media for being heterosexual men. Only gays trans victims, people of colour and women

[@kamivenus753]

Yes! Weak lol

[@TheAlfredPlatform]

Correction: it's straight men that are complaining because us gays are doing lovely. The problem is yall need to change your definition of masculinity to catch up because yall are losing big time. In the past, we just received privileges because we were men but no more.

[@asparrow9876]

​@@kamivenus753thank you for reinforcing my decision to be ruthless and live like no woman matters. People like you created men like me, and you will definitely regret it, but we won't.

[@MohamedAhmed-ms9eu]

That's what no one talks about. The reason why men in the past like our granddads were motivated to work as they kept the fruits of their labour - money, house, and children. Now the man works for everything while the woman is the one who keeps it. I read a divorce case in the newspaper. This woman divorced her husband and the judge gave her alimony (£1000 a month) and all the money in the man's savings account (£250,000), the family home too but the husband kept his business. A few years later she takes him back to court demanding he double the alimony to £2000 a month because she lost the 250,000 in a property investment and is now "broke". The judge agreed. She took her ex-husband's money, blew it, and came back for more. Btw, by the time she came back for more money, he was already re-married.

[@PapaFranku-qe2sc]

I’m not ‘lost’. I have never been so aware in my lifetime.

[@testingoyay4648]

statistics my dear fellow...

[@vincemack2042]

​@@testingoyay4648Statistics is saying what? That we should want a wage that we aren't claiming we want ourselves? And solely because WOMEN desire men who make more money? Feminism dear fellow, feminism. Get with it.

[@PapaFranku-qe2sc]

@@TheBite2010 I don’t think so. Thanks for the offer though.

[@obsidianjane4413]

...and narcissistic.

[@Greendollar640]

@@vincemack2042perhaps you should stop being so lazy and go to college. Men want to blame feminism for their laziness 😂

[@qadr_]

Men are not lost. The entire society is lost.

[@Recuper8]

❤

[@happilydivorced3235]

Not when women are going to therapy, healing from traumatic experiences caused by men and forming their own communities to support each other. What are men doing to help each other?

[@aidanmurray7319]

@@happilydivorced3235Women are insane. Look at SSRI rates and explain to me how women are doing well.

[@jordanjohnson9866]

Nah. /

[@adrianbundy3249]

It seems most of the time voices have come out to build those voices to support men, even for the mundane things like family court equality there's camps of women who call them sexist and campaign against them because they can't stand the idea of men getting help.

[@varinder006]

This is the era when “Men actually woken up not lost”

[@daniella8400]

Yeah waking up and but suicide and DV rates are increased

[@stefanoputignano1555]

@@daniella8400tend to happen when you wake up and see just how screwed and abused you are. Some fold and decide to sleep forever in the hope of going back to the dreams when someone actually see them as more than resource

[@daniella8400]

@@stefanoputignano1555 or just weak… suicide is for weak men!

[@1love847]

@@stefanoputignano1555 So you can't compete in the world anymore, not with LGBT or women. That has to be rough. I feel your pain.

[@stefanoputignano1555]

@@1love847 I honestly cannot see if you are sarcastic or honest

[@ninjetti9898]

American society: men we don’t need you anymore for anything, your services are no longer required thank you. American military: why is nobody signing up, I don’t get it, our number are down 30% CAll of Duty online: our numbers are through the roof thank you men!

[@jameskillu9171]

mote women should sign in

[@ninjetti9898]

@@jameskillu9171 I blame xbox and ps5 for the fall of western civilization

[@nickt463]

​@@ninjetti9898 I prefer to blame social media and religion

[@ninjetti9898]

@@nickt463 religion, at least my religion encourages community and preservation of life, not isolation and suicide

[@nickt463]

@@ninjetti9898 really? all i ever hear is how Christians want the world to end already so they can go to heaven. To me that sounds like a dangerous and stupid belief.

[@sensorycircuits1338]

Houses start at half a million dollars. Divorce settlements start at 40%. Wages have stagnated. Perhaps it's less about feelings and more about $$$.

[@LyonHeart888]

I know right. 🔥🤦🏾‍♂️🔥

[@hmq9052]

Years ago men lived in a shack with 8 kids and were happy

[@armaantoor6773]

Most women being whores is also the issue

[@benjaminhenderson5025]

Sssshhhhh. You cant say that part out loud.

[@cstuartdc]

@@armaantoor6773 the pill did make women more sexually promiscuous. It started out as a way for a married couple to not have 8 babies (called family planning). A monogamous wife (at least on appearance) would take it. Then we gave it to 16 year old girls Last week it’s now over the counter. This isn’t to blame young women…they’re just trying to figure things out at age 16 but yeah racking up a high body count on 3-5% of men isn’t going to bode well on this issue. It’s good to see men not apologizing for wanting what they want and passing on what they don’t want

[@hybridPeople358]

I was at the gym minding my own business. Young lady asked me to move so she can work out. She accused me of being toxic and a creep. Thank you GOD I'm off the market.

[@crazyzombie9720]

Gym girls are the worst. They’ll falsely accuse you of anything.

[@SAMack-xd2fn]

You should have reported her. The rule works both ways 😊

[@dumkaisachakal6341]

This is why we need Men Only Gyms.

[@hybridPeople358]

@@dumkaisachakal6341 women will go crazy if we do.

[@dumkaisachakal6341]

@@hybridPeople358 not our problem

[@SR-lz7kl]

America is finished for families

[@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN]

Not for the Mexicans. This country will be at least 60% Latino in the next 10 years. Sad, but true.

[@walterwhite1]

25 million illegal Mexicans cross the border in 2023. Don’t worry they’re having babies at a record rate

[@ball3677]

​@@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN How is it "sad" that there will be many latinos?

[@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN]

@@ball3677 Because I happen to be one of the many Americans who don't want more illegals in this country. Is that a hard concept for you? First world countries without borders are always destined to fail.

[@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN]

@ball3677 And I'm not saying it's just Mexicans coming here, but they are the majority.

[@itssoaztek4592]

I am not lost. Just mentally exhausted by the excessive perpetual stupidity showcased in the media most of the time.

[@Durktoomany]

Talk!!! Especially once again hearing from a woman what a man no a good man is 😂

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

Yea

[@Getloose360]

Thank you! OP

[@Getloose360]

​@@Durktoomanyit's ridiculous levels of foolishness.

[@Tony-lk6sn]

I think ignorance has a lot to do with it. I don't think any of these people on CNN know what's going on in the real world.

[@miam1074]

After the war, families were able to not only survive, but thrive on a single income, could purchase a house, support the wife and the kids went to school and had a good education. Now, you can not buy a house on 2 salaries and many are getting barely enough money to survive on, and rent something out. This model of the ever increasing greed of capitalism is not sustainable. There is a general sense of hopelessness. And the list is long why.

[@Kittykat5kits]

That model only worked so long as women were fine with being unpaid labor in the home.

[@janewright315]

​@truthhurts9246 if you want to cook and clean sh*t all your life no one is stopping you. Stop shoveling that nonsense down everyone else's throat.

[@anacc3257]

Is it only a capitalist problem? Seems like you're missing something since the time you're describing was a time when capitalism was in place and it was probably even more unregulated than now. There's something more to it.

[@miam1074]

@@truthhurts9246 look around in the US, and tell me that rabid capitalism is forking for you all

[@civilization57]

Contractor and real estate developer here: The problem isn't greed. Market forces determine my prices. The problem is big gov't: tons of fees, taxes and restrictions. Plus gov't zoning makes it almost impossible to find buildable sites. Finally, people want big, elaborate houses. If they were content with 2 bd/1 bath condos, those would be affordable.

[@hiddenname9809]

CNN: Men bad Men checks out. CNN: Men are lost.

[@aquariuswagewar7658]

😂😂😭😭😭 I feel bad for you guys 🥲

[@BigSnipp]

@@aquariuswagewar7658 CNN said men are bad? lol Liar.

[@thesavoyard]

What is completely missing from the conversation is misandry. It is a feedback loop, and feminine toxicity is causing a lot of gender strife. But we still aren't to the point where we can have an honest and frank conversation.

[@sayitaintso7544]

Just knowing 70-80% of women initiate divorce and often take the kids is leaving America in a bind. Single moms raising kids is surely an underlying factor. Dads need to be in the home like they were before the 60s or 70s

[@thesavoyard]

@@sayitaintso7544 I had a feminist sociology professor. The biggest shock I got is when she said if we want to fix America we need to end no-fault divorce. Single parent households are the leading cause of poverty, crime and poor school performance.

[@steven-napoleonwilliams1422]

Spot on @thesavoyard

[@JohnBoyed-fo6fm]

This is mostly propaganda for CNN telling half truths I can't believe women and older men are trying to blame young men who wants to be liberated who wants to be financially free who wants to live life for themselves I can't believe CNN is blaming them for the collapsing of society what a joke man have not changed women have men are just adapting to The New Normal I know plenty of young men who are hustling working and saving money for themselves and are are not looking for a wife or kid egalitarianism failed men it tricked us into believing that the world and women could help us with our problems but the truth is women and the world don't care about our problems and that's the truth. Women were given their liberation/ freedom men had to fight for theirs and still be hold to a standard that's some bs. The powers that be need to allow me to be free we live in a different generation now men shouldn't have to be the Disposable sex anymore. CNN are just mad men are being smart and waking up. Tell me all the men in the comment section would you rather be free live life provide for yourself or work 80 hours a week slaving for a woman and some kids that only love you under conditions? I rather be free. Financially free or broken free but I'm not trying to be no traditional man in this day and age he|| naw.

[@JohnBoyed-fo6fm]

@@lovealwayswins748 no such thing

[@scottr.heffner9078]

Imagine if a man wrote an article about how women are lost and then tried to tell them how to fix it. It wouldn’t be hard to find an angle, maybe around Instagram, social media or online dating. Focusing just on men’s issues without acknowledging the larger social issues around online behaviors from both sexes is myopic, particularly around demonization of masculinity. If we were talking about women, we’d be talking about how we should help them not how they should help themselves.

[@englewoodmusic]

Yes to this.

[@punchthem4582]

Maybe propaganda tv CNN should hire Dylan Mulvaney to instruct woman how to be woman and makeup tips? LOL

[@GentlemanJack705]

Agree.

[@sar4806]

Double standards work in favor of the historically oppressed. Men bad, women good is how these narratives are.

[@geleanora1]

Women have always had to help themselves and build things for themselves what are you even talking about? Men didn’t get women any of the advancement they have now.

[@hayaq9991]

As a black women, i knew there was going to be a negative effect on the constant “post” of WW complain about men harassing them when they honestly wanted to get to know them… i never felt that way.. i love when men came up to me or shoot their shot.. even if i said no, both parties always walked away laughing.. we dont have to disrespect men bc he approached you until there is a real threat

[@williamparrish2436]

BW are WAY more hostile than WW. Nice try, but black men have watched Kevin Samuels videos. The cat is out of the bag, there are no more illusions. You can't blame WW for BW singlehood.

[@bpric13]

Thank you for your honesty! I've always approached more black women because they're more open and friendly to men than WW!

[@aaronfreeman5865]

I've been single for 2 years and won't make the first move anymore because I'm tired of everything being my fault or I'm coming to them trying to sell myself. I'm 5'11, 175 lbs, have 2 jobs and run my own little company. The best thing I did with my life a straight white male in America is pull out of the society as much as possible. I'm tired racist shit being thrown at me. White privilege, feminization of poverty, affirmative action. I've been denied college scholarships, business loans and housing because of my race and sex. As a message from most men with jobs and lives to women. It isn't our fucking job to initiate, we aren't anymore. If you want a man. Don't stare or laugh because you think he's cute. Be an adult and ask him out. No successful man will ask a woman out these days because it will lead to his ruin. You wanted all the benefits and you got them. Try shooting your own shot. Stop being a child.

[@billgreen1861]

​@@aaronfreeman5865 Amen, to all that ! 💯👍

[@williamparrish2436]

@@aaronfreeman5865 "I've been denied college scholarships, business loans and housing" Really? I find it hard to believe you know why you were denied a college scholarship. How did you get that info? Business loans? Aren't they based on credit? And housing? Really? Where were you trying to move where they said "Sorry Sir, we know about you people and your rap loving, chicken eating ways!" Nope, not buying it. I'm sure you may have seen some commercials or T.V. shows that made white men look dumb. But don't extrapolate that to a life filled with struggle lol🤣🤣🤣

[@32afsdf]

Men aren’t lost. The world just doesn’t care about the average everyday man. Unless a man is doing exceptional in the world, or are lgbtq. they are ignored and not appreciated.

[@rantanamo]

Do you really need that validation as a grown man?

[@sorvex9]

@@rantanamoAll People need validation

[@user-xu6bv7yh2j]

why should the world? does the world care about an average woman? how can you be this thick?

[@Scar-jg4bn]

Nah, the world doesn't care about gay men either. We get h8 from the left and the right now.

[@thenakedeve]

Men are literally at the top of the social food chain, the problem is they can’t stand that they aren’t being centered anymore.

[@MajesticOak]

The average man cannot sustain himself by pure moral virtue alone, and society has done its best to dismantle all worldly forms of motivations.

[@janicetitano1387]

What the heck does that mean?

[@MajesticOak]

@@janicetitano1387 Back in the past, society/civilization/governments/whathaveyou push various immaterial incentives, be it afterlife (religions), the greater good (various ideologies), etc. to motivate men/males to put forth their max effort regardless of their returns in the physical world. The modern secular liberal culture has dismantled/shamed most of those reasons in order to fight the most heinous of evils (and it's true, behind the biggest atrocities of human history are full of "nice guys" and "good men" who simply "followed orders" in order to fulfill their social obligations and otherworldly rewards). But in uprooting the root of such evils, modern culture has also took out the motivations for people to want to do more than the bare minimum. Thus the question going forward is: "how can society foster people to put forth their max without having it promptly get hijacked"?

[@janicetitano1387]

@@MajesticOak ok lot's of flowery words here from your post that are circular and non-sensical. Specifically, who puts forth "their max"? Who, what, how is that max hijacked? Give us Sesame Street language because I'm pretty sure no one is impressed with the la-de-da hyperbole in your post. Especially overly educated me.

[@MajesticOak]

@@janicetitano1387 Fine. In simple terms: in the past, the church/mosque/synagogue/temple promise great afterlife for good works on earth. Governments/societies promised a better future for being productive. The same words were used by bad religions and governments to get good people to do bad things. Now we tell people to not listen to those lies so that they don't follow those bad people, but with that they don't have anyone to follow and motive.

[@denisefreeman2123]

Until we take responsibility for ourselves and stop wallowing in victimhood, nothing will change for us.

[@AnthonyJasi]

Remember reading this the other day and am paraphrasing here “When Men are dealing with problems, Society asks them to change. When Women are dealing with problems, we ask Society to change”.

[@emilyfeagin2673]

Not quite. Society wasn’t working for women, so we changed it You can’t try to make an entire gender a per many underclass an expect good results

[@formula112967]

@@emilyfeagin2673 underclass? lol....your joking, right? women had it made back in the day, staying home, while men went out and busted their butts.....women were, and still are, the most protected species on the planet.

[@simpbeforeusleep]

@@emilyfeagin2673society was geared towards women and children and still mostly is wtf are you talking about?

[@sebsebski2829]

@@emilyfeagin2673 I think not dying in wars and taking care of children is much better than working 60 hours a week in demanding physical work and then dying in trenches somewhere in Asia. But hey, sure, society never worked for women, absolutely.

[@Spaceguy]

yup

[@Sw1shersplitter]

Social media has screwed with the fabric of socializing, people’s ability to communicate, people’s expectations on the opposite sex driven by social media and dating apps, poor economic structure and corporate greed has driven us all (excuse the term): limp and jaded. Peoples moral compass has gotten lost in the fight for attention seeking and social media fame.. I’m a male, was a student for 8 years and went to higher Ed teaching and noticed unmistakably since phones have taken its grip, Friends students and people have gotten to be dry, lack personality and drive, but constantly pushing their faces into the very things that renders them socially impotent. I could go on.. it’s lonely to say the least…

[@simulationkoyo]

the problem is that parents are no longer dying. Healthcare is so advanced that it keeps your parents living until 80+ yrs old which is your entire lifetime, when in the past it used to be 60+. No longer do youth inherit from parents to grow their own lives and families, and the old will continue hoarding wealth and property land which drives the prices of everything and cost of living up.

[@simulationkoyo]

the problem is making vaccines to protect the old and the weak. Diseases exist for a reason, to curb overpopulation and ageing population which drives humanity to the brink of extinction.

[@armaantoor6773]

Most women being whores is also the issue

[@TheGeosto]

⁠@@simulationkoyo thanks for your trenchant analysis. In my entire life, I never once planned on receiving an inheritance. Personally I plan to leave my money to the animal shelter.

[@oldcrowtj4937]

Liberalism arises from weakness and delusion. Liberalism is perpetrated, promulgated and perpetuated by the weak anddelusional. Liberalism is weakness that ultimately leads to RUIN.

[@AA-wg5up]

They mostly misdiagnose the problem by framing it as males being “lost”, like the problem would be fixed if we just wised up or were taught how to be. Notice how women’s - and everyone else’s- issues are always framed as systemic problems with society being unfair to them, but for men, it’s not society’s fault, it’s men being “lost”. Actually society systematically oppresses males, other than the very successful few at the very top. Just 3 points (out of many others) will prove it: 1) Men are the vast majority of workplace injuries and fatalities. All the dirty, dangerous, exposed-to-the-weather, physically demanding jobs are 99% male. When did you last see a female plumber? Look around you. Everything was built, installed, maintained and repaired by men. Look at all the workmen on building sites or roadwork construction you usually walk or drive past not giving a thought to, then imagine you were an alien just arrived on earth wondering who the slaves were: you’d have to conclude it’s men! We’re dying working these dangerous jobs, yet you only ever hear about the so called “pay gap” with women supposedly earning less - even though when adjusted for hours worked, overtime, seniority, time taken (or not taken) off work, danger, etc it vanishes. But the majority of men lead these hard-working but unnoticed lives while being told we’re privileged! We do the jobs that women turn their noses up at, but women just see the wealthy men at the apex and think the grass is greener for all men, while the rest of us don’t even enter their calculations. Well it’s wrong. Instead of this constant bogus push to raise women’s wages in boardrooms and corporate suites where they’re already well-off, there should be a push to raise wages for real working blue collar men, and better healthcare and insurance for all our workplace injuries. 2) Divorce law: massively abusive of men, especially fathers. So many men end up with their children effectively and kidnapped out of their lives by the mother with the backing of the state. On top of child support, why does alimony even exist? - the woman should get a job and provide for herself - become an apprentice plumber if you’ve never had to work before. So many men end up homeless because on top of (mostly fair - except where paternity fraud occurs) child support and mostly unfair asset division, so much of what they earn is gifted by the state, in the form of alimony, to the woman who divorced him. 80 to 90% of divorces are initiated by women. Young men see this, and know that getting involved in a relationship with a woman is dangerous. Paternity fraud should be a crime. According to all studies, around 10% of men and children who think they’re biologically related as parent and child are not. The studies are there - go look it up. And 10% is not just how many women cheat, it’s how many cheat, plus get pregnant, plus lie to a man to defraud him into raising the offspring of another, like cuckoo birds do. Such fraud and abuse of men should be a serious criminal offence. What is more important than family? Yet family law abuses men - and in this case even rich men: Paul McCartney of the Beatles was married to Linda McCartney for 4 years, but had to pay her (in US $) $48.7 million!!! That’s $34,000 per day for every day they were married, with her living a life of luxury in his mansions! How many Beatles songs did she perform? Can anyone give any rational reason she deserved that much money???? You can’t, because there isn’t one! It’s sheer madness. How about a man permanently maimed in a workplace accident? - does he get $34,000 per day? No, so why does a gold digger wife who divorces a rich man? But Paul McCartney could take the hit. We should be considering all the men impoverished or made homeless by women who society for inexplicable reasons deems entitled to so much of the man she divorced’s assets and income. And once you’re made broke like that, good luck attracting another woman - you KNOW how women are about a man’s money. 3) Education - boys used to outperform girls at school by 15%. This was declared a crisis and the education system was overhauled to better suit the learning style of girls. It overshot, and now girls outperform boys by 17% - that’s 2% more than what was deemed a crisis and action taken for when girls were disadvantaged. But now boys are disadvantaged nothing is being done. The school system should be overhauled to improve outcomes for boys by providing teaching that meets their learning style and needs, to bring their results up to the same as the girls (without overshooting the other way again). Summary: Society, in education, work and family, is systematically oppressing (the vast majority of) males, while telling us we’re privileged, deserve nothing, and are guilty, bad and wrong just for being born our gender/sex. But somehow these “experts” - especially the woman - show no idea about the systemic oppression and instead call us “lost”? We’re not lost, we’re systemically oppressed. Remove the oppression and we won’t be “lost” anymore.

[@hillarybm92]

Why shouldn't society try to have men outdo women in education? This would allow more marriages because women only want to marry men who are better and smarter than them, so the more men there are who are richer and smarter than women the more men and women can get married and have happy families.

[@redbaron07]

@@hillarybm92 Or, perhaps normalize women wanting to marry men of character who e.g. have a trade and not a BS college degree?

[@cezarypruszkowski9523]

Well written, well written 👏

[@knuke9596]

Great points. The MSM will ignore this while still pushing all this women's empowerment BS and gender confusion. Then wonder why men are checking out.

[@interestingtimes6242]

Should be top comment. 👏👏👏

[@Dexion845]

The headline "Men are Lost" is already a non-starter but they don't see the problem with that.

[@NoobSaibot3heGhost]

Keep walking away and don’t look back

[@theblessed1635]

So true they talk at men instead of to us.

[@AnthonyLauder]

The whole assumption that young men are "lost" ignores the reality that they have found the most rational path for themselves: avoid women and marriage due to the culture of toxic feminism making it masochistic, and don't be ambitious and loyal at work since your employer likely sees you as a disposable expense rather than an asset.

[@e113jelly6]

This is how we women feel

[@ot23234]

@@e113jelly6 Women feel they need to avoid relationships due to toxic feminism? Women rarely stop being loyal and ambitious at work due to being a disposable expense. This is why every profession women enter in large numbers has a massive drop in average pay. WRE applies to jobs, too.

[@beibotanov]

@@e113jelly6 how's that? Cherished by everyone, having all the sex you can swallow, easy mode life from start to end

[@user-xu6bv7yh2j]

@@e113jelly6 yes - never marry

[@dw9679]

It's also challenging to find women with integrity. This is why I gave up 5 years ago and I have spent that time improving myself, and living a much happier yet lonelier life. It wasn't meant to happen for me, that's okay.

[@neondystopian]

Modern women seem to be allergic to integrity and modesty.

[@mosijahi3096]

What do you mean by integrity?

[@neondystopian]

@@mosijahi3096 Integrity noun Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code. The state of being unimpaired; soundness. The quality or condition of being whole or undivided; completeness.

[@mosijahi3096]

@@neondystopian thanks for the text book definition, so you really think women don’t have integrity?

[@InappropriateFab]

😅😅😅😅😅

[@floshi6519]

CNN : "Men are into a huge crisis" Women : It's a men's fault!

[@emilyfeagin2673]

That’s because it is Either lead, follow or get the heck out of the way

[@radiantveggies9348]

​@@emilyfeagin2673the problem is that we are not taking into account that women are not earning their ways in society today through merit, but rather taking opportunities from men who actually deserve it and would do more good with it. Diversity quotas are terrible for societies

[@ELIZABETHTORRES-em3kx]

😂😂 totally 😂😊

[@ot23234]

@@emilyfeagin2673 I agree that it is men's fault for allowing feminism to exist.

[@wiseguy240Winston]

​@@emilyfeagin2673 We can always force things to go back to how they were 4 u women if u want that so badly

[@mickcrovo5238]

We have betrayed our young men.

[@Spaceguy]

Yeah i'm 21 and already have had 3 jobs and saving as much as a can and still can't really afford to move out comfortably. Along with having no one to share my income with whats the point of college? Family is dead and relationships are dead. i don't want the fancy cars i just want love.

[@user-ry2qs7xf9k]

@@Spaceguy you want love or someone to help you?

[@Spaceguy]

@@user-ry2qs7xf9k Maybe you're on to something. I've always been a "Lone wolf" and was not helped a lot growing up and felt isolated so that's probably not good for finding relationships since i already have that "It's me against the world" and only me mentality. Honestly idk what i want.

[@user-ry2qs7xf9k]

@@Spaceguy most people I've met who say they're tired of being alone and want love,in reality they just want someone to help them:to spend time with him,split rent...which is better than being alone but it's not true love

[@Spaceguy]

@@user-ry2qs7xf9k Nah i would pay the bills tbh i'm more old school like that lol

[@rixx46]

I am widowed and have not had to date since the late 70s! I wouldn’t know how to navigate the world of singles today and I don’t know how anyone does. It all seems to be “friends with benefits“ and easy, relaxed, sexual encounters without any sort of Commitment or suggestion of a relationship. I’m not saying we didn’t hook up back in the Ice Age but today it seems like it’s unusual for two people to have an actual relationship. I hope we return to a time when intimacy was part of a developing promise of companionship, and not just scratching each others itches.

[@jeff3388]

Not saying your like this but even though I’d like a long term relationship/family I know I’m hesitant because sooo many good men in my family have been destroyed by petty selfish women who they thought loved them. Men fall in love so easily then once your married your wife makes you a slave and the second she gets tired of your flaws and finds a better alternative she’s gone, with your kids, your money, everything. If you try to fight it she accuses you of anything and everything and your guilt is assumed. My own parents stayed together which is rare and I love them both for that. But even my mother threatened divorce because she was in a mood, I told her if she did that I’d never speak to her again, and she didn’t do that again. My dads not perfect but neither is she, nobody is and we should know that before we get married. I think women are less selective these days because divorce is so easy and incentivized. If it doesn’t work out they know they can bleed them dry and find someone else, then repeat, and nobody will ever say they did anything wrong. So now I’m the one who needs to be selective, and women aren’t used to/expecting that. They can be insecure too and if you don’t want to instantly jump their bones but instead get to know them, they freak out or assume your gay or impotent or something. Casual hookups are easier than ever, but having been in a long term relationship, they don’t interest me as much anymore. (After a few beers, different story). Also the age thing is confusing. 18-20yr old women can be attracted to older guys. But if a guy in his mid 20s likes a girl who’s 18, he’s a creep? Like wtf. My parents are 10yrs apart (dads older) and nobody had a problem then (mom was 20 when they met). So in short, ya, I agree. Dating is fucked

[@cheezykrafts8134]

Trying to get a date to even show up, let alone one with a relationship agenda, is pulling teeth. All men want is a hookup. A friend with benefits is even difficult because men get so weird about emotions and sex. Like they think I can't separate the two so they get weird and do it for me, dysfunctionally. Oh, do I sound like that wall of text above me except the roles are reversed? Probably because he's ranting about a stereotype that everyone experiences. Mom threatened divorce cause of a mood? Oh my. I got my leg dislocated "because of a mood." Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them. Guy above would do well to learn this.

[@jeff3388]

@cheezykrafts8134 so you were abused, and that really sucks. Cause now you're afraid of men and don't trust them. Understandable. But that causes any guy looking for a relationship who has two brain cells to steer clear right away. Why would I want anything to do with a woman who is afraid of me by default? How could I trust someone who doesnt trust me? So, no suprise the only ones showing interest are just there for hookups. And "friends with benefits" is always dysfunctional, if you're actually friends that is. Someone always catches feelings, or worries the other is catching feelings when they're just using them for sex.

[@mattyo5022]

​@@cheezykrafts8134huh? I agree maybe some of his stuff sounded a littleee exaggerated but he made a lot of good points. You obviously are just as bias. The problem now is women only want to date 20% of the male population. So the other 80% are just average guys that may have loving hearts and want to have a life and family with you but they're seen as "untouchable and "undesirable." And then one key point you're missing(or maybe you're not)is women have the ULTIMATE power. The power of reproduction. Without women, men's genes die. Women select who lives and dies in a biological sense. Who to breed with and who dies off. Men have their ways and many are scum that I call out daily on behalf of what they do to women. However. Women can ruin men and also take them out of the gene pool. Men don't have that power over women. And financially they don't have near as much power anymore. It's 51-49% now in favor of women being the higher earners and much more college graduates. So you take the factors I mentioned, along with women now becoming the wealthier gender, there is a reason men are concerned and depressed about future prospects and the future of Western civilization in general. Women like yourself act like men are purely reactionary and unrarional, when they have a legitimate right to feel that way. Women can feel however they want and nobody tells them not to. In fact, society encourages it. I just don't think the gaslighting is necessary on your end. It only leads to more grievance and anger.

[@formula112967]

@@cheezykrafts8134 If you want a guy that will show up for a date, or not use you for sex, you should change your dating strategy and try dating men that aren't in the top 10% of money earners.....you women love to share those guys.

[@threeone6012]

The ruling class finally convinced men to completely check out of society. Good luck getting them back.

[@skulay]

Men are not lost, They QUIT!

[@HonkHonkler]

Yep

[@RachelKagiorgis1111]

You give up too easy. Laziness.

[@HonkHonkler]

@@RachelKagiorgis1111 People like you are not worth it.

[@user-ry2qs7xf9k]

you can't quit,it's impossible

[@RachelKagiorgis1111]

We need a draft. They've been spoiled for so long, and it's absolutely ruined young men.

[@HonkHonkler]

Lost? No, just chilling.

[@RedH3]

Comfy

[@FriendlyDarkwraith]

Wait until they realize that men who can't find a mate also don't have a reason to find a job.

[@jurassicthunder]

​@@FriendlyDarkwraithand a reason to fight wars.

[@KikisBabySensory.]

DONT ACT LIKE YOU CARE ABOUT MEN CNN

[@1love847]

THey don't and women don't either. You had your reign of terror, violence, domination and it's over. The age of reckoning and awakening is here for everyone you shat on. Deal with it!

[@jurassicthunder]

of course they don't. "men are lost, women most affected"

[@BigSnipp]

What is 'MEN CNN'?

[@kimmanning2913]

"If we're gonna raise better men then we need to be better men." Scott Galloway They cut the clip...smh

[@simpbeforeusleep]

Being called toxic by these normies is a badge of honor at his point

[@gospelmusicmix]

I think a big part of the problem is what we in psychology call cognitive dissonance (mixed or confusing messages). For example, people are often told to "Be yourself" or "Be authentic". The problem with that is if a man does or says something that is considered inappropriate he may be chastised. For example, if a man says, "I want a woman who can cook", some women may be bothered by that statement even though he is simply saying what he wants. To be fair, women also deal with similar challenges. For example, if a woman says, "I want a man who is in a good place financially and can provide", that might cause some people to see her as a gold digger. How should we deal with these inconsistencies? I recommend the book Don't Be Yourself: Be A Better Person by David Ross

[@niamarielove]

Very valid point. It's unfortunate that no one has commented on this.

[@themore-you-know]

The gaslighting against men is on a scale unmatched, though. Very few men would chastise a decent woman for wanting a man "who is financially stable and can provide" if that expectation is aligned with reality (say: expecting 50,000$/year). But if a man makes a very small demand that is by far easier and more attainable than beating the median salary (by definition: being above 50% of men), such as "don't be a wh*re, don't post indecent pictures, don't stuff your face, and cook", then a massive wave of women feel entitled to label that demand as misogynistic. That described gaslighting is at the very core of the modern problem: men are held to their ultra traditional role (must compete over at least 30-50% of people), whereas women are free from any accountability to their own traditional role (including the most basics that are basically "control basic urges a little").

[@renjia3504]

​@@themore-you-knowproblem is not even 50k is enough

[@emilyfeagin2673]

Would you have a problem with a woman who said “ I want someone to fix my car” We should be more to our partners than the jobs we can perform

[@themore-you-know]

@@emilyfeagin2673, there's no problem with that statement, if the ask is more mutual, such as... "Hon, can you try to fix the car? I'll get started cooking dinner." The societal problem is: women are frequently making themselves useless to men. Increasingly large portions of women favor working for a different man than their husband, developing skills that are useful to other men than their family and husband, spending money on other men's business interests than their own family, and sleeping with other men when they're young and pretty than sleeping with their long life husband and partner. Being a partner is a job and duty. Feminism has convinced you otherwise: it convinces women that women have no responsibilities, and need no exchange. Unsurprisingly, there is a rise in the number of men dropping out of a system where they're ask to maintain their responsibilities while women don't.

[@jordanrapport7562]

I feel lucky to know who I am, but she is not wrong about direction. Professionally I feel forced in a direction that will bring me money but not happiness, and the amount of money will never be enough to keep up with cost of living and inflation. Having a a family is not currently affordable for most people.

[@hmq9052]

It never was.

[@neondystopian]

It's not affordable in the West.

[@neondystopian]

​@@hmq9052it certainly was but that time has long passed. Pretending it never existed does make it easier, though.

[@hmq9052]

@@neondystopian It existed briefly. For about 20 years between 1955 and 1975. Before that life was a struggle and people were happy and had plenty of kids. Sometimes 8 or 9, 3 of which died at birth. Your struggles do not match theirs.

[@neondystopian]

@@hmq9052 the struggles are the same. We just put a modern coat of paint on it.

[@giordanobruno1333]

Imagine how you would roast a man if he penned an article on how women are “lost”.

[@stanbyme7874]

We’ve always been lost. We’re aware that we are commodities from a young age. We’re bought/sold/beaten/killed by Men just because we’re female.

[@giordanobruno1333]

@@stanbyme7874 that’s why you need men.

[@giordanobruno1333]

@@stanbyme7874 go tell your grandmother that she was “lost”.

[@stanbyme7874]

To protect us from…men??

[@ecurewitz]

@@giordanobruno1333t’s why we don’t need men

[@emrek99205]

Once the sexual harassment issue hit the workplace I was totally apprehensive about complimenting a woman anywhere about anything. If I tell her that she is smart will it be seen that I like f**king smart women and I'm trying to get in her pants? If I give her advice on how to impress a boss when asking for a raise am I playing wingman to get my boss laid? So I would just nod and look away from female coworkers. Pretend they didn't exist because I didn't want to lose my job if they took friendliness as something else. Yet at the same time, women don't approach men in ANY circumstance. So I ended up being alone 95% of my adult life. I can count on one hand the combined number of years I've been in a relationship.

[@dancesinboxers]

I know what you mean. Don't give up. I didn't and won't.

[@Lil08103]

there is an underlying premise in your description that you expected/ had hoped to meet a woman at work. while this does happen, i don't think this is the norm today and work isn't meant to be tinder. so i'm not understanding the suggestion that your experiences with female coworkers resulted in you being single. 🤔 i personally would never want to date someone i worked with--maybe if it was a large company and she worked in a completely different area--so that wouldn't factor into any potential lack of success for me. are you active? do you have friends? hobbies? are you engaged in anything like church or clubs? that's where you'd meet a woman. but work is a no-no for me but i guess it can depend on your generation.

[@maxstrike3022]

​@@Lil08103it's always fun to hear women tell men where they should be looking for women, but if you do the same to women they'll call you a misogynist. Thanks for showing why men are checking out.

[@Lil08103]

@@maxstrike3022 sir you're projecting your bitterness onto me and making assumptions. i'm a man and i was moreso asking a question than telling him what to do. if you want to check out, then check out. but own your decision and stop blaming others for your unhappiness.

[@maxstrike3022]

@@Lil08103 Never said I was unhappy or bitter, did I? Way to put words in my mouth. You may be a man, but you definitely speak like a woman, further proving how society is femininizing men.

[@colestaples2010]

I’m not lost, I’ve accepted my reality

[@HistoryLover99]

Per the CDC, currently more than 1 in 10 boys have had an intellectual disability, autism spectrum disorder or another developmental delay. This is often accompanied by social skill and executive functioning deficits. This crisis, which started being recognized in the late 1980s and has only gotten statistically worse since then, could be one of the contributing factors for why so many young men "are lost".

[@alexmuenster2102]

>>Per the CDC, currently more than 1 in 10 boys have had an intellectual disability, autism spectrum disorder or another developmental delay.

[@tomdolan9761]

The CDC? Oh problem solved if those idiots are on the job. Understand how they publish and why. Some grad student cooks up a paper with little research based on personal bias slapping their logo on it and puts it out as though they’re authoritative.

[@slackerman9758]

Not sure if it explains why it has been getting so much more worse recently, alone anyways.

[@user-xu6bv7yh2j]

microplastics in the environment plus a mental merge with tech

[@AroundTheBest]

I have not had sex in 7 years. This is not for a lack of trying. I've swiped on nearly 100,000 female profiles over the last 3 years. Women have become incredibly picky and it's becoming abundantly clear that working full time is pointless for me if I'm not going to have a family.

[@dusklvr]

Yep women don't want random penises inside them. We want commitment, love, and all of the good stuff that comes with that. Women are not here for your sexual pleasure. Every woman I know it's worked her butt off and been treated like crap her whole life. We're done.

[@yeslooksmatter]

Yea man. Don’t work hard for a system that won’t reward you for your efforts. The only leverage we have is our labor, but AI will see to it that we lose that soon. Good luck on your journey. I’m in a similar boat. 7 year drought as well despite being productive and well groomed.

[@theknightandthebishop]

Women can get slammed by an unlimited supply of dudes out of their league. There is nothing any man “can do about it”. Just step away from the table & let these broads self-destruct.

[@niamarielove]

I'm really trying to understand why lack of sex is a bad thing.

[@theknightandthebishop]

@@yeslooksmatter get passport. Get out of the U.S.A.

[@wendellwadewilliams1]

This is definitely something that needs to be addressed. The evidence is undeniable. Great Interview.

[@bucklaughlin906]

Read the book or watch the movie “Fight Club.” Spoiler alert: it’s not really about fighting. One memorable scene: “I see in the fight club the strongest and smartest men who've ever lived. I see all this potential and I see squandering. God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables, slaves with white collars, advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need. We're the middle children of the history man, no purpose or place, we have no Great war, no Great depression, our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives, we've been all raised by television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars, but we won't and we're slowly learning that fact. and we're very very pissed off.” A purpose and a place.

[@lennard5393]

Will it be the meta verse? or something else something to conquer.

[@IvanMrsicStudio]

@@lennard5393 I don't think strapping on VR goggles and living in an artificial world is what men want to "conquer." The more technology advances and people are glued to screens and sitting around at home, the more I want to be outside in the real world. I'd rather be a firefighter, an outdoorsman, an arborist/lumberjack... ANYTHING but some idiot sitting on the couch and getting fat while living in Mark Zuckerberg's digital dystopia.

[@reedsreptiles4268]

​space and how humans will find their place in the universe moving forward. right now we're stupid and think paper and destruction is most important and getting our way

[@Elemblue2]

When I was a kid I watched fight club 1000 times. Then I got up, And walked through the ocean of bs life tries to throw in your way like I had been immunized to it, towards my goals. It just rolled off me. Fight club is an education, and an introduction, to the invisible things in life that hold you down. Rage is the answer. Watch fight club, and understand it. I have human rights values at my core, and it doesnt seem to conflict with caring about the rights of men, women, or society. Because it doesnt.

[@masterchinese28]

I'm an American expat who has been living overseas for 26 years. I actually have little idea of what the dating life is like in the US. I do know that I've had multiple classmates and people from my hometown randomly contact me out of the blue and ask me about overseas women. Some are quite specific asking what I thought about women from X country vs women from Y country. Some of these people, this is literally the first time that I've communicated with them in 30 years. It just makes me wonder why they feel they need to look elsewhere to find love.

[@Guitarooster52]

What I’m seeing in the younger men is that they are feeling abused by women. They don’t like the attitude of North American women who discriminate based on expectations of huge income. They are looking elsewhere hoping to find a little respect and less attitude.

[@briannec2016]

I guarantee the "men" complaining about this might have a membership to Hustler's University.

[@crazyzombie9720]

@@Guitarooster52 The passport bros

[@anacc3257]

These male related issues are not unique to the US. It's a more broad pattern seen in most of europe and the western world as a whole.

[@mariapilarme]

Interesting, they may feel inferior? As women are more and more educated in uS. They are looking for traditional roles? I went to University and my ex couldn’t not take that , he never went to University but told his friends he did all my papers and test at the University. Of course we are not together, very difficult to find a ignorant woman like his mother.

[@giordanobruno1333]

Always makes me laugh when a woman tries to tell men what makes a “good man” and then complains when men tell her what they view as a “good woman”

[@p.h.3987]

You really do not get it. Do you.

[@FantasticOtto]

@@p.h.3987Considering you have nothing to back up your comment with, I’d say neither do you.

[@redspiralray2880]

​@@p.h.3987A comma should come after the word it, followed by a question mark at the end. That would be the grammatically proper way to phrase your sentence.

[@giordanobruno1333]

@@p.h.3987 that’s just your toxic femininity talking. Your misandry is showing.

[@giordanobruno1333]

@@p.h.3987 I understand your 23 year old son you didn’t want. I understand him more than you

[@grantmelcher6865]

I personally wouldn't lump Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson together.

[@Take_Me_Back_To_The_1980s]

The Leftoids label all men who speak to younger men and encourage them to be positive about their role in the world as 'toxic' - they literally portray Peterson as a Nazi - then ask why young men are in crisis 🤡

[@NealX_Gaming]

It's not really a crisis of masculinity so much as it is a crisis of the pocketbook. The underlying issue is people can't make enough to have a decent life, whether they find a mate or not.

[@hmq9052]

Years ago people had no money and 7 kids. 3 of which probably died. And you think you have problems

[@mhmoreofficial]

So far in today's western world and from what I've understand within the view of the mainstream media (and far left ideology) it's okay for a man to be a woman and a woman to take the role of a man in the traditional sense (1950's roles, as the breadwinner or head of household), but when a man wants to adamantly take this role it's toxic masculinity. It's also acceptable for women to sleep around, but it's toxic masculinity when a man sleeps around even though its 10x harder for the average man to have several sexual partners than it is for an average woman. Everything is backwards now in this regard. Men are praised for calling themselves and acting as women, but are seen as toxic/insecure if they act dominant, independent, overtly confident, etc. Whereas women are praised for taking the role as a dominant and independent figure, but when they express adhering to the traditional values of the 1950's woman they are seen as anti-progressive and/or slaves to an old system. In summary, today, women can be 1950's men, but men are vilified if they do so. Men can be women(maybe even the 1950's traditional women's role) but women are vilified for wanting to be a 1950's woman. Men are vilified for sleeping around, but women are praised for it, even though in the end 90% of the time women have the final say with intercourse presently....and women can get sexual partners 10x easier. There is no logic to societal structure that was adhered to for a reason, which is another lengthy discussion for another time. You're right in that it's definitely harder to make a living and support a family or even yourself, but not addressing the attack on 1950's valued role for both genders is being blind. Especially the role of men and their masculinity.

[@benjaminhenderson5025]

Or maybe men are living in a society that EXPECTS a 50s level of material support todays men simply cannot provide, and our society judges them harshly for failing to meet that standard.

[@MrWaterbugdesign]

Or we've defined "decent life" has unobtainable. I'm 66. I've lived on $600/mo for 15 years. Own my house, retired 21 years ago at 45. I'm very happy. But I think most Americans would consider my life as horrible. I walk almost everywhere. I don't have a $75k car. I haven't eaten in a restaurant, gotten takeout or been to a movie in more than 5 years. I buy my clothes at 2nd hand shops. I don't see "masculinity" as something you get from money or is something requiring validation from others.

[@Cockmonging]

@@zeroclutterartanddesign9637 are you seriously comparing human society to nature?

[@a.deen.7842]

Here’s a revelation for her, men have always watched porn. They are not lost, they are fed up. Is that so hard to grasp? Or are you intentionally not wanting to face reality?

[@chucky187]

Capitalistic greed is the issue. Jobs don't provide the basics so, how can most young men afford to start a family when they can't provide for themselves.

[@quitaulla1569]

What about women? They have been taking care of themselves AND their kids and with lower wages. And men cannot even take care of themselves nowadays.😬😬

[@hmq9052]

Have you read any history books? Men used to earn a pittance and have 8 kids

[@homerkenobi1914]

@@quitaulla1569How is engaging in literal whataboutism helpful? Yes, women have done that; I was raised by a single mom and am grateful and blessed by it. But a suck it up buttercup attitude won’t work.

[@armaantoor6773]

Most women being whores is also the issue

[@armaantoor6773]

@@quitaulla1569 Most women being whores is also the issue

[@stevenpeluso7670]

Life is what you make it, and what we don't need is some miserable a-hole telling us how to live our lives in some perfect harmony.

[@emilyfeagin2673]

Brilliant! Best comment on the thread!

[@YTLuc]

7:41 _"The greatest innovation in history wasn't the computer chip. It wasn't the iPhone. It was the middle class. And the thing that gave birth to the middle class was 7 million men returning from war [WWII], who were given jobs and money and low interest loans. And quite frankly, demonstrated the heroics, and the economic security to be very attractive to a lot of women, and we had the baby boom. And the inspiration and the formation of the greatest entity of good in the history of mankind...the American Middle Class."_ - *Scott Galloway*

[@davidhaynes3126]

Fortunately, I have not been one of these Men for a long time. But having worked my way out of these issues I have built a life of Family, Love, Economic Freedom and stability I understand the issue very well. Men need mentorship, Frank discussion and help.

[@maarifa4772]

Most of the human beings need mentor.

[@davidhaynes3126]

@@maarifa4772 100%

[@janicetitano1387]

Most mature comment, thank you.

[@mfit7110]

@@maarifa4772women do have mentors. It’s called Men. They just don’t want to listen.

[@williamkinkade2538]

I'm mentorless....

[@robdawson5835]

Imagine seeing the headline women are lost 😂

[@janicetitano1387]

Would love to read about that! Oh wait, it's a headline that has been headlined a bizzillion times. Yet, we women are very good at becoming un-lost. Do you have anything new and interesting to share? New is the operative word, thank you.

[@InappropriateFab]

Men have been telling women how to live since the dawn of time.

[@uzaidgurjee4798]

@@janicetitano1387show me one article that says women are lost

[@emilyfeagin2673]

We don’t get lost. We know how to use the map app on our phone.

[@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN]

It should be a headline.

[@woodlandhamilton4348]

Thank you for enlightening us about my issues today as a young man. 🙂

[@awatson8683]

When she brought Jordan Peterson I was done. So we bash the Men who have become targets in an effort to address the very issue they’re touching on!!! She a hardline feminist .

[@knuke9596]

Notice they never call out how women and the push for women's "empowerment" contributes to this crisis.

[@sebsebski2829]

Yes, she wants to put men in slavery because they are afraid of the revolution.

[@BigSnipp]

No, you missed the point.

[@ilikedabeans9971]

And WAPO shares a part of the blame as much as they don't want to admit it.

[@nymike06]

Exactly!

[@rncgsu]

More men should write pregnancy a d motherhood books. I am sure the women would appreciate that.

[@janicetitano1387]

Why not? Sure! Bring it on.

[@nahma233]

There's still plenty of men who are OB/GYNs. Plenty of pregnancy and pediatric books are written by men. I don't understand your comment

[@nymike06]

lol

[@InappropriateFab]

You mean more than the literally thousands of such books men have already written?

[@tlhomponkwe5229]

😂😂😂

[@TheIanant]

This is a PG sanitized version of this issue. It took a while but men of all ages finally came around to the realization that society’s idea of a “good man” is one to use and abuse, then kick to the curb, if so desired, to put it frankly. The focus is never on what is good for the male but rather what can you extract from him. Namely, his labor and his life’s worth. Women, the state, the courts, nobody ever has the welfare of men in mind or ever did, if the truth be told. If you think people in general are not that brutal, calculating, and exploitive, then go play by their rules. Go try to be a good man. You'll soon see that even if you’re dumb enough to go seeking their validation, with a probability that is no better than a toss of a coin, you can wind up losing the better part of what you’ve worked all your life to achieve in divorce/family court.

[@prussiansocietyofamerica]

100% True! You hit the nail on the head here, because this is exactly what these people DO NOT UNDERSTAND. If a Man tries to be a good man or do all the right things, he will not only find nothing works in his favor, but he will also be ruthlessly punished and abused for it. It's a suckers game. Real Men don't go to college or work 9-5 jobs, get married or concern themselves with being a part of this system and the daily grind. That's what's reserved for slaves.

[@Elemblue2]

This is a really jaded version of what I said: As a man, no one but your family care about you by default, unless they can use you. Women can create people. That is intrinsically useful to the species, and everyone knows it. But as a man, you are ignored until you make yourself useful. Your also the sacrificial part of society, dont try to deny it. This creates a natural pressure to do something when your a man. Ive never really thought of the genders as seperate. Ive thought of them as an arbitrary half of the population subject to different pressures, and therfor different results. Its not society. Your set up from birth to be in that situation. Dont resent reality. Just do your best to be happy in it. Its not evil, its pressure. My point is that yes all people want is to extract thing from you. But if you can make yourself compitant and functional, you can build, say, a group of people who actually care and appreciate you. I dont know what that could be called, but would probably be nice to have. I bet they might consider your welfare relevant too.

[@Rob-uv6fb]

Marry an asian woman. Or just not a WW from the US. You're welcome.

[@neondystopian]

One huge problem I have with this is the constant bickering about men keeping their emotions inside. The ability to remain stoic and internalize your emotions while not losing control is a trait that should be praised and promoted. We're not women. We don't need to air out our emotions to process them. Some of us might need to do a better job of communicating our emotions, sure, but the trait is a feature, not a bug.

[@mosijahi3096]

This is part of the issue with men , this particular why we are where we are today.

[@neondystopian]

@@mosijahi3096 it's the lack of understanding why we are this way. Society is gynocentric now, and women have always struggled with this particular trait of men. Without it, a man simply isn't a man. They might be male, but they're not a man. It is a misunderstood masculine trait that isn't actually a negative.

[@neondystopian]

@@mosijahi3096 remember, if you can successfully internalize your emotions and remain calm, you will always be superior to those who cannot, at least in specific situations where such a trait would be necessary or preferable.

[@mosijahi3096]

@@neondystopian who made the concept of what man- male mean. I think men might want to address their unnecessary violent tendencies, wars, slavery overwhelmingly domestic violence, rape and the list goes on.

[@neondystopian]

@@mosijahi3096 maybe your the problem. Have you considered that? Maybe because people like you correlate those terrible things to masculinity. There's been just as many queens as there has been kings, friend.

[@jkenneth4986]

Work enough to retire in another country. You be much better off as a men.

[@janicetitano1387]

Good plan. I as a woman subscribe to the same plan. I too think I would be better off.

[@smeekle2000]

A woman who thinks she knows how to help young men. This is a joke.

[@ramencurry6672]

Well she’s smarter than you

[@00Daddy]

​@@ramencurry6672i what aspects bashing men all day moreover she work at cnn we piss on cnn intelligence

[@thenakedeve]

Women see the problems men refuse to acknowledge.

[@andrerussell5130]

​@@ramencurry6672🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@farmcat3198]

This is an important topic. Thank you for bringing it up and discussing it.

[@garythomas3150]

“It feels like people were waiting for someone to finally say it?” I think what you might have meant to say was, “It feels like people were waiting for someone to say it that wasn’t a conservative, who has been saying it for years.”

[@johndiss]

This identity politics has been promoted by the conservatives for awhile. While criticizing identity politics. I'm skeptical of black women embracing white male identity politics. The crisis of white men not getting laid seems to be the last thing she should worry about. The only contributing factor to the failures of men I heard them cite is the upward mobility of women. First, if a man can only be attractive to a desperate woman, that's pathetic. Second, that suggests this is class or culture struggle. Men are failing because women are succeeding through preferential treatment. The fact is the white men are experiencing a taste of what women or minorities went through for generations. The fact that black men were always criticized for being unsuccessful and now white men are criticizing women and minorities for white mens' failures is ridiculous.

[@garythomas3150]

@@johndiss We all know all white men are evil.

[@quanbrooklynkid7776]

​@@johndissdamn

[@nathanolson3135]

@@johndisscouldn’t have said it better , like with all things in this country unless a Yt person is experiencing that problem than it normally doesn’t exit .

[@Deetroiter]

How does the WAPO columnist know what a man is?

[@nymike06]

Exactly! The Washington Compost is a woke joke newspaper

[@wecanalldobetter]

This is one of the most amazing interviews I've watched in ages. Thanks Michael.

[@JonathanSterlingUSA]

Mark 10:6-9... "But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female. Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate." The problem is obvious.

[@mitchpeter5718]

Wow it’s not like Jordan Patterson hasn’t been talking about this for the past 7 years!! It’s nice to live in a bubble!! 🙄🙄🙄

[@jamessmith-pb8ly]

Professor David Buss and Professor Jordan Peterson have covered this for many many years. The leftwing media is just now starting to talk about it

[@valkimura1053]

@@jamessmith-pb8ly Years after so many did the groundwork and mainstream news wouldn't cover them.

[@user-xp5id1kh4r]

@@JonathanSterlingUSA what's the obvious problem?

[@62Cristoforo]

After the war a single income family almost always meant the father was the bread winner. Today, that dynamic has reversed, and it’s single mothers who head families.

[@user-td9pg2vg8p]

The world is upside-down when the hen crows and the rooster cackles!

[@anacc3257]

Good on CNN and WP for raising an issue that they not only have ignored for a long time, they've arguably contributed to it.

[@phillippac.7469]

It's like women's liberation and feminizing men was a bad idea...who knew?😅

[@xvi1128]

Incel spotted.

[@notsodelusional]

@@phillippac.7469 I don't think you understand what women's liberation means.

[@Mike-ye8qv]

​@notsodelusional actually I think he does, it's liberals who can't define a women lol

[@phillippac.7469]

@notsodelusional no, I fully understand it. Just because I might have differing views from you, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. Thanks for your comment, my friend

[@outsidethematrix593]

The world we live in has been built on motivated men. They took the motivation away and men saw that the world is just using them. We've woken up.

[@thatenglishteacher]

This has been out there and talked about for years by those of us who work with young people. It just wasn’t acceptable.

[@Elemblue2]

Ive been hearing the education system doesnt care about boys, and shuns them from alot of teachers lately. Any merit to that?

[@EnronnSierra]

I lived with a female roommate and the fact that she was just a roommate yet extremely overbearing and needy gave me insight about a lot of women in society today. Thank goodness I'm a happy single, gay, working class man, independent and enjoying my life everyday.

[@CanalTremocos]

This is the life.

[@zimladyj84]

Lol😂

[@steverusso177]

MGTOW brother

[@janicetitano1387]

Yes because you judge all women in the world based on your perceived personal experience. So insightful and thoughtful NOT. But self absorbed non thinking person you are, YES.

[@rogerbrownreacts8528]

It comes down to use rather than coexistence and respect. That is because of the culture since the 90s.

[@djjeeveslarue3499]

What about 45 year old men, no kids, wife is dead.. like myself. Moving back in with my mom this summer. Don't get me started on the dating. Trash. Absolute trash candidates for a partner.

[@kin-of-orakio]

Hey now, there are plenty of hyper-masculine single mothers with body counts into the triple digits to choose from! You don't want one of those? /s

[@djjeeveslarue3499]

@@kin-of-orakio they don't want me either..

[@johnnyBrwn]

I find this comedic. Why would she be able to render insight on this issue? The last person I'd want to procure insight from.

[@Lonelyweirdo96]

Oh NOW we’re concerned about the health of young men🙄our mental health is a joke when it's convenient

[@LK_Ireland]

We been saying it, but have been shut down continually!

[@dougjones1074]

Yeah they're so selective we get to support about half their children through public assistance

[@emilyfeagin2673]

And that is the woman’s fault because….?

[@ivaniveljic9701]

Love how the left ignored or was openly hostile towards Jordan Peterson when he was talking about these exact same statistics... In my opinion these statistics undermines a lot of concepts, ideas and theories coming from the left

[@MohamedAhmed-ms9eu]

The left believes men are privileged and run society so these statics absolutely smacked them in the face. How can a woman say she is more oppressed than men when men have shorter lives and get longer prison sentences for committing the same crimes? They can't so they brush it under the carpet or deflect.

[@emilyfeagin2673]

That’s because he is a misogynist creep Disliking women and expecting them to be less than won’t solve any problems

[@chipsdad5861]

Women accuse men of being creepy, women accuse men of also sorts of horrible things. Women for decades have told men to get lost and now they are upset when women cannot find men.

[@TaraZsun]

lol i dont think women are upset about finding men. I think men are upset that women are not looking for them.

[@janicetitano1387]

@@TaraZsun Well said! Could not agree more!

[@chipsdad5861]

@@TaraZsun You are wrong, There is a whole community called MGTOW. Look it up. Men are just avoiding the whole idea of have to take care of a wife and kids and just focusing on there own interest. In the age of the internet every woman wants a top 5 percent guy 6 figures, 6 pack abs, and six foot tall. There is a small percentage of men that are doing really well with women but not many men are committing to any one woman. The internet spauned the LEVEL UP dating practice for women so women always feel there is a better guy available. You should do some research men are actively checking out of the CARING FOR society. Women are on their own and most of them are exhausted but it is to late.

[@chipsdad5861]

@@TaraZsun You should ask yourself an honest question. What do women do to advance a mans station in life? Men don't marry women for money. That is what women do. Women don't enhance and mans station.

[@crazyzombie9720]

@@TaraZsun You do realize more and more men are walking away from dating, right?

[@JohnnyPeacenic]

I was talking about this 20 years ago and my father was talking about it 40 years ago. This all began when middle class jobs went to other countries it began when the United States was sold.

[@ivannano]

It was more than 20 years. This started in the 80s with Reagan's trickle-down garbage. That moved trillions of dollars out of the middle class and into the hands of the uber wealthy.

[@scottankers6690]

there is a skilled labor shortage in the country. There are opportunities to be had. I don't think that many young people believe work in itself is a virtue and expect every job to be like a rock star and therefore avoid it.

[@phillyphil1513]

When Work Disappears, Author William Wilson, Published 1996 (ie, 27 years ago).

[@user-ry2qs7xf9k]

the US was not sold ,it got richer

[@ot23234]

@@scottankers6690 The shortage is made-up. No one is trying to train up or hire Americans, they hire H1b due to being far cheaper even if Americans are available.

[@tokitobe2450]

I've always liked Christine Emba's articles. As a subscriber to WaPo with no particular interest in the individual writers, Christine's writing stood out. The fashion, food and politics writing is good as well, thoughtful. WaPo is far more worthwhile reading than the NYTimes and has been for some time now.

[@Mel_ilm]

Thank you so much. This is crucial.

[@stevenhuffman9032]

Are you kidding me? Y’all are acting like this is a new idea. Jordan Peterson has been talking about this issue for years. Have these people been living in a cave? Welcome to the party. You’re ten years late.

[@nymike06]

Exactly!

[@redcomet0079]

Women posting private text conversations, demanding money just to speak to them & constantly degrading men who haven’t even done anything sure doesn’t help either

[@stanbyme7874]

So the dating life of a female? I started dating in 70’s so no text. But the expectation of sex because you bought me dinner? I smiled at you so that means I sent "signal" I want you to follow me. I wore a skirt so I deserve to be called a slut. I say no so I’m an ugly lesbian. Essentially the tables are turning. Woman have been struggling for years.

[@redcomet0079]

@@stanbyme7874 I never said anything about expectations. Stop projecting & gaslighting

[@briannec2016]

​@@redcomet0079 It's true though, women have experienced this crap for FOREVER.

[@stanbyme7874]

Pot. Kettle. Your entire comment was meant to gaslight. No debate.

[@redcomet0079]

@@stanbyme7874 your attempts to white knight are sad

[@awworrell]

It's nice to see some talk is happening on this though I wish it were a long form interview.

[@dpc316]

Love it, we need more of these discussions and point out the obvious. These difficult conversations need to happen ! Friends, Family and Community factor needs to be established for these relationships.

[@beatler11]

its over, Roman empire so will we. Lock and load.

[@Ornament_1]

What this woman talking about? Men are not lost a number of men are having standards.

[@NoobSaibot3heGhost]

We refuse to take used goods

[@terryharker6726]

What about all the supertramp's and the female opportunist gold diggers. The list goes on and on and on. don't run down man never run down man the day the women take power is the day when mankind is over and done with. It is written

[@DeeLynn]

The economy is terrible, but we have had decades of decline in wages that would allow our sons to leave home and provide for themselves and a family. Don't blame their lack of sex on woman's autonomy from WW2 era gender expectations when no capitalist society is working very hard on giving worker's dignity. You know what else those soldiers had coming home? Productive unions winning wages to push families into the middle class. Right now the 1 percent has everything and private failures are made public ones by banks, utilities, companies to big to fail.

[@LyonHeart888]

🔥💯🔥

[@williamparrish2436]

Wrong. For most of human history men have been dirt poor. And they didn't reproduce. Nothing has really changed. But the numbers are lower. Why? Because women have changed.

[@BigSnipp]

The economy is great now.

[@tomdolan9761]

It isn’t lack of socialization or global warming that has men avoiding relationships. It’s toxic femininity and a family court system which overwhelmingly rules against them when faced with a dissolution of relationships.

[@whafrog]

Had to pause the video to read the article...really well done, nuanced and tries to grapple with the complexities. One facet missing I believe is that, unfortunately, the loudest voices of feminism seem to believe that men are a) a problem; b) should be treated as "women in training". Men and women (and, I have to assume, every other element of the spectrum) have different needs and these need to be accommodated for everyone. Another facet is how much time young men spend in front of a screen rather than in mixed groups where nobody has a phone and they have to interact...aka basic socialization...it's the only way to learn, make mistakes, recover, and grow. I'm convinced my son grew up "normally male"...that is, confidently masculine while able to treat women with respect and dignity...at least in part because we did not have a TV in the house, and we did not give him a computer or cell phone until his late teens. It meant he spent his time outside with other friends, which were a mixed group, of course getting into the usual "trouble", but learning the essential social skills that serve him well today.

[@janicetitano1387]

Men are their own problem. Meanwhile, women are moving on and advancing. Without men. Men, get yourself involved in the rest of the human race...women and be active in what is important to us. Amazing how your whoa is me life will turn around.

[@brittanyjohnson375]

Both men and women should be respecting each other with the same exact respect to each other. That's one of the biggest issues both women and men have.

[@jodypalmer4506]

Lol - well, men ARE the ones with the problem. So, yeah, they are the problem. If they want to solve their problem, they need to conform to what women want. WE aren't he ones crying about loneliness. WE don't need to do anything. This is an "epidemic of lonely men" not an epidemic of lonely women. And by lonely, the talking heads apparently just mean men who are put out that they can't ejaculate on or in women. Poor fellas. What a crisis.

[@BlownMacTruck]

LOL, the loudest voices of feminism? Come on now. You can't just toss a straw man out there like that and not provide facts or data that support that statement.

[@TheKingOfHalo]

The traditional motivation for men to succeed is no longer there. Houses are too expensive, raising children is too expensive, and there's always some sort of crisis which discourages couples from having children in general.

[@kin-of-orakio]

Plus women are now cheating on men in relationships at higher rates. It's not worth the risk for most self-aware men.

[@adude661]

What I do not understand is WFT are 5 women giving their opinion about "valid" masculine role models. That is up to MEN to decide.

[@jamessmith-pb8ly]

Professor David Buss and Professor Jordan Peterson have covered this for many many years. The leftwing media is just now starting to talk about it

[@marybarnwell4156]

This has been happening since the late 1980s. And it is absolutely true.

[@lrwsf1]

Earlier than that. I saw men of my dad’s generation who lost their way before the late 80’s and it’s been a ripple effect ever since.

[@giordanobruno1333]

@@lrwsf1 going their own way is not necessarily “lost” Stop insulting men and they might give you some of their time.

[@theprimateconnection]

exactly when divorce laws and all the feminist laws were coming out. birth control, hypergamy, body counts etc etc but hey its a young mens fault. what a joke

[@NapkinNexter]

I feel it really got back in the 2008 crisis because the government hurt the economy by lifting gambling bans on banks, which caused massive economic shockwaves and since then, housing is becoming more unaffordable. Everybody was happy before that.

[@lrwsf1]

@@giordanobruno1333 I’m not interested in the time of a stupid man who doesn’t understand or can’t take accountability for what you nuts have done.

[@BlackManSideProfile]

Both of these speakers fail to point out the neoliberal tendencies to not pay men and the promotion of boss bitch feminism which makes many women insufferable.

[@1love847]

lol. Wow, your mind must be an insufferable place to live. Look in the mirror and take resposnibility for your life and watch the whole world change before you. This is why women do better. Men wine and complain.. Just admit you can't compete with us. End of story!

[@rantanamo]

You are exactly who they are talking about

[@NoobSaibot3heGhost]

You are exactly who we are staying away from

[@SAMack-xd2fn]

I thougt #metoo taught men to leave women alone. Ladies, you asked for this..enjoy your life with cats!!😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marakima]

How can men be called lost, when they are the of the sex that provides about 95% of people's most urgent needs: shelter, food, water, heat. Men are just fine as they are.

[@mycat2230]

Salient point, if we are talking about basic survival. Men are lost (in general) in the modern trajectory of current trends in egalitarian society.

[@anacc3257]

Being productive and successful from a societal perspective doesn't mean that they're satisfied in life or that they aren't lost, as statistics do show

[@janicetitano1387]

95% Impressive statistic. Please, provide evidence.

[@marakima]

@@janicetitano1387 KZbin doesn't want to add other link replies it seems, but from same website: 94% construction workers male, 89% water operators male, 73% farm workers male. So, off a bit for water and farm, but for heat and shelter, nearly spot-on.

[@Nirobiscloset10]

No they arent... can't hide it. Males are miserable without women. And women are bitter without men..

[@johnnynephrite6147]

Ive been predicting this for well over a decade. Yeh sure, if you're handsome, famous, rich or successful, you're still doing well. But if you're anything else, you're suffering from the socially oppressive system of promoting females in all aspects of life. For men, this is a winner take all, bully the lesser, condemn the weak society to begin with. Pile on the concept of lets promote women and girls ahead of boys and men at all cost and of course you have boys and men adrift, depressed and detached.

[@user-fed-yum]

You have described the patriarchy. Sorry for your loss.

[@johnnynephrite6147]

@@user-fed-yum you're in denial. this is a toxic society full of toxic people. you're one of them.

[@GotoHere]

You certainly are in intolerable stereotyping hypocrite woke leftist.

[@Kittykat5kits]

Lol. Trying to blame women because they won’t accept men for being a**holes.

[@donotpursuelubu9179]

​@@user-fed-yumtwo wrongs don't make a right.

[@GenXJay670]

Henry Thoreu has never been more correct: "Men lead lives of quiet desperation".

[@robertwguthrie3935]

Thanks for an erudite take on matters to soothe the effects of all the madness. 🤔

[@ignaciofuentes2642]

Women these days are dating each other more than they are dating men.

[@janicetitano1387]

Really? And how do you know that?

[@noneoftheabove5816]

This is the low energy boomer that said "you should be out of the house all the time except for sleep" 😂

[@olivur_1459]

Not a bad saying

[@emilyfeagin2673]

I’m another low energy boomer. But in a way he is right I make more money when I leave the house, I find more opportunity when I leave the house

[@giordanobruno1333]

If you want men to come back onto the plantation, a good start would be getting rid of the Family Courts. There are zero benefits for men in marriage when the woman is rewarded for breaking the contract. I as a man can only dream of a day where I have the same and equal reproductive and parental rights as a woman

[@janicetitano1387]

Please, no thank you. Stay off the plantation (whatever that is). We've got this.

[@giordanobruno1333]

@@janicetitano1387 according to the video you don’t.

[@kin-of-orakio]

It's pure delusion that "they got this."

[@Yomel123]

@@giordanobruno1333 uh women got this. Men do not

[@giordanobruno1333]

@@Yomel123 according to the woman in the video, women do not “got this”. So when are you going to start laying bricks? You got it. Get your ass to work.

[@legalmemories]

Great interview and discussion

[@veritewahreit6297]

putting jordan peterson an andrew tate in the same category is highly misleading.