War Correspondent Goes Inside the Mindset of Jan. 6 Insurrectionists | Amanpour and Company

Luke Mogelson has been closely following the social and political upheavals surrounding January 6, both then and now. It’s all explored in his new book, "The Storm Is Here: An American Crucible," and he speaks with Hari Sreenivasan about his findings.
Originally aired on September 27, 2022.
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[@Marychelle]

On April 30, 2020 I told my husband, if they’ll do that at their state capitols, they’ll do it in DC. I’m amazed at how many people, even in hindsight, can’t or won’t see how Trump’s term in office led directly to January 6. Anyone who didn’t see something like this coming long before the election just wasn’t paying attention.

[@proudhammer62]

Yup. I wasn't and still don't pay attention.

[@jojolouis]

@@proudhammer62 your point is?????? is it : I'll support Trump no matter what, so paying attention to anything won't change my stance??????

[@marjorjorietillman856]

This guy is pointing out how this privileged group of White Repugs can occupy the Michigan & the US Capitols, and yet claim they are victims. However, the Black protesters outside the MI Capitol, knew there was no way they would be alive today, if they would’ve occupied the MI state house with open carry rifles, and bring weapons into the US Capitol. Yet the privileged group are told by Trump and others that they are the real victims!

[@Snowshowslow]

Yes... An ocean away, I was extremely anxious in the lead up to Jan 6th (and Jan 20th as well). I was so relieved when DJT was out of the White House without all-out civil war. It's so hard to fathom that people who were in the midst of it didn't see it and sometimes still don't. Information silos are a powerful and scary thing, I suppose...

[@Mt0428]

Yup! I knew the day he got elected that we were in for terrible things to come. I remember crying the day after the election in 2016 because I knew something like this would be the inevitable outcome.

[@lundgrentp]

Bullies are always brave in groups and when they are armed to the teeth. We all must stand up together to these cowards!

[@gordongranger4136]

Are you from a different planet?

[@lindas.martin2806]

It is not happening, as far as I can see. Have you taken any actions, have you heard of any arm of the government doing anything? Gerrymandering will, it seems, will ensure Republican wins, with the “Supreme” court avoiding or blocking efforts to protect democracy.

[@henrimatisse7481]

@@gordongranger4136 he's one of the idiots that say the Dems are pedos. Sheesh

[@robertpiekosz7470]

@@hektik7 See U.S. Rep Matt Gaetz Fl. The Chief Groomer !!

[@lamiagumbo]

@@hektik7 Matt Gaetz, Roy Moore, Jeremy Filbert, Dennis Hastert, Jim Jordan, etc.Not to mention the fact that republicans have decided they have more rights to little girls bodies than they do and have created laws to reflect that. Sounds to me like repubs are just a bunch of groomers.

[@ToddDouglasFox]

These groups are predominantly men who are emotionally and psychologically infantile. They are victims, victims to their own rigid immaturity. Refusing to take responsibility for one’s life as an adult makes it self-fulfilling.

[@kimthomas781]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@LJ-ht4zs]

White men - who feel entitled and their "loss"is that others - are in ascendance - people of color, different religions, women. More women then men attend or graduate from college then men.

[@MultiOhioman]

Agreed!

[@waynenorris5711]

A large amount of cluster b disorder attracted to the same like an identification process using anti-xxx as a fuel similar to mob mentality. Nearly identical to manipulations during world war II.

[@greenbrain8725]

Insightful

[@Flowerhead247]

NO DOUBLE TALK.. JUST CLARITY. THANK YOU‼

[@kevinjenner9502]

Paradoxically, crimes in violation of International Law and the UN Charter... CIA coups removing democratically elected leaders/governments around the world as commissioned by sitting US Presidents. Iran (1953) Guatemala (1954) Congo (1960) Dominican Republic (1961) S. Vietnam (1963) Brazil (1964) Chile (1973) etc..

[@izzitooinsky5708]

Thank you for your courage, clarity and intelligence

[@celestesenters1052]

I commend your courage Also want you to know how important it is for everyone to see and hear this This insanity cannot be tolerated anymore The KKK was demonstrating in downtown Youngstown last week I mean wtf is going on? Lock these terrorists up

[@richietattersall2122]

The KKK is BANNED in Germany, but legal in the United States AFTER they lost in WWII? Try to figure that one.

[@marlenemorrow8942]

My dad is from Youngstown! He served in WWII and risked his life so this country would continue to live in a democracy! Hes passed now but i know if he was alive to see his home town turn on his patriotic service and choose instead to live under a dictatorship would be such a betrayal to him and every single service member who fought for our democracy.. i wonder if the WWII veterans that have most likely passed by now is contributing to so many Americans not having any respect for what our WWII veterans fought for? I grew up in a house where what Hitler did and the complacency of millions of people turning a blind eye to what was happening right in front of their eyes? Are we experiencing the same denial...uninformed...or the hidden "love to hate" syndrome that we are now experiencing in our own country? Are we going to go about our day and if we dont act against these maga people...we are doomed to repeat history? I wonder why these Republicans don't fact check...dont allow any opposition no matter how illogical...how unfounded statements made by the politicians they vote for? Im just sickened by the lack of intelligence these maga people..who are suppose to be religious..dont care about lies being told...sex trafficking charges against their elected politicians...the admitted sexual assaults...the attempted kidnappings' the murder and beatings of police officers..the senseless deaths of those that died while trying to physically harm elected officials and the overthrow of an election? I just cannot understand how they got to the point where none of that matters at all..

[@juanitaross5492]

I'm from Ohio not far from Youngstown. Ohio has become more and more popular with white supremacists Nazi's. Sense Trump became president they have grown in number's. We must call our congressman and women and demand they denounce these anti American evil human beings. Vote blue across the board untill trumpism Is dead and six feet under.

[@hipoman8087]

The kkk is still here. They don’t wear hoods anymore. They call themselves militias

[@richietattersall2122]

@@hipoman8087 "JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US,! JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!, JEWS WILL NOT REPLACE US!"

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Did this guy just say what I heard him say? I agree with him. Make No Mistake, This is the Tim McVeigh Terry Nichols Branch of the Republican Party. This is not a joke.

[@samanthab1923]

This was my first thought when Charlottesville happened! Guns in public & militias? WTH?!

[@henrimatisse7481]

@@samanthab1923 that is when the disciples stepped out of the closet. During the Trump administration.

[@samanthab1923]

@@henrimatisse7481 Scary. When I first moved to PA in 94 there was a case of skinhead brothers who murdered their parents & little brother. Guess where they fled to? Militia in Michigan. Just another world. Neither of us grew up with guns & his dad served in WW2.

[@MyName-pl7zn]

@@samanthab1923 the Michigan militia used to be out in the open but after Oklahoma bombing they went underground but still exist

[@samanthab1923]

@@MyName-pl7zn Makes sense but you would think the FBI would keep an eye n them

[@tomarmstrong1281]

He is correct, I am not an American but job postings have had me living and working in America for extended periods. I could never understand why ordinary Americans are so wedded to guns. As I gained the confidence of the Americans I worked with, I became aware of a visceral hatred of many for the Federal government. There is a strong sense of loss, and grievance and victimhood which is rooted in a sense of promises not being kept. White Americans are brought up have a the sense of privilege, of freedom and that America is the greatest and really does belong to 'me' in the literal sense. But life shows this to be a myth. They are not able to rationally deal with the fact that the American economic system is essentially exploitative and they are regularly exploited. Their attachment to firearms is some sort of comfort blanket and a facile means of clinging to the myth of American freedom. Notice how Trump aligns himself with them by always playing the 'victim' card.

[@bdadolph]

You are making Hilary and 😢 Obama’s point but it was considered unseemly

[@tomarmstrong1281]

@@bdadolph Simply the observations of an unbiased and open minded observer. In addition I saw a beautiful country and met many warm hearted generous natured people. Many of whom needed, and deserved some support. I also realised that despite the proliferation of seemingly well resourced and well attended churches, being in need in America was a tough challenge. Ironically much more than being in need in less wealthy countries. I travel extensively.

[@greenbrain8725]

Insightful.

[@laurie113]

Well said!

[@henrimatisse7481]

I appreciate your comment for it's insight and excellent summation of the problem here. Part of it is that Americans are largely apathetic except for guns, sports and makeup

[@JasonBoyce]

Fantastic interview with Mogelson. He's clear, concise, and really gets to the point.

[@catya3668]

For anyone who's been paying attention, especially in Michigan where the Oklahoma City bombers trained, this is not a surprise at all. It's terrifying.

[@yossarianmnichols9641]

If a person is terrified the Oath Keepers win, just like the Brown Shirts in 1933 Germany. Their primary goal is to intimidate those who disagree with them. Why would you bring an assault rifle to a political protest. You are afraid to argue with people if you are unarmed but if you are with your buddies and guns you feel invincible.

[@RM-xf9gi]

Home grown terrorists

[@samanthab1923]

Right?! Why is this allowed to go on?

[@marilynhoward380]

These groups have no defining goal to their rage. They just get high on the destruction they can cause.

[@ecstanton]

Their goal is destruction of the democratic process

[@billwalsh388]

I guess these people never "pulled themselves up by the bootstraps", and now they're angry about it.

[@freedomofreligion3248]

You nail it.

[@nicklockard]

These people are lazy slobs who are outraged that life isn't on easy mode any longer.

[@karynnmackinnon3975]

It’s so sad that these “victims” cannot see that it’s the party they support that is victimizing them.

[@adamwho9801]

A lot of dancing around the central core of racism in these groups. The police and government are good as long as the oppress the right people.

[@kimthomas781]

Internet comment of the day☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽

[@lisaannpennington3958]

But it's not only racism but also religious bigotry, sexism, classism, general hatred for "The Other"

[@adamwho9801]

@@lisaannpennington3958 They all go hand-in-hand

[@ALL_CAPS__]

Amazing that they like to say "facts don't care about your feelings", when their feelings don't care about the facts, ever.

[@briobarb8525]

Well said, Sir!!!

[@trishayamada807]

It’s willful ignorance, it’s willful “martyrdom”. They are horrible people.

[@paulinskipukprogressive4903]

absolutely incredible interview

[@Peaches328]

Great interview Courageous journalist 👍👍 This channel is one of the very best on line 💗✨

[@margaretsomerville2510]

Appreciate author's analysis of the hypocracies

[@videopyc]

Russian propaganda apparatus has so far achieved many victories in the USA.

[@AdamWestish]

...and their techniques are exactly equal to Putin's.

[@mikehundt4263]

You guys slurp up EVERYTHING that the liberal media serves you, without question. It’s hilarious 😂

[@jojolouis]

There's an underlying, subconscious assumption in American culture imo , fostered constantly by the marketing machine (it sells). "The right to the pursuit of happiness", is translated in many Americans as: " This happiness, fulfillment can only be attained by being rich, outwardly successful". If I'm not then 1) I'm not playing my cards right because I was not given the means to or 2) someone, something, some organization is depriving me of that happiness/well being. Hence that hence of being a victim

[@woodspriteful]

The "it" in "bring it back" always includes patriarchy and racism primarily

[@kimthomas781]

Absolutely correct 🎯

[@catya3668]

Those are GANGs not militias!

[@samanthab1923]

Exactly!

[@danjohnston9037]

SPITE Look at spite as a motivating emotion Anybody else having anything " diminishes " them somehow

[@badomaji]

Envy and greed. They like ranking themselves comparatively to others, too. Ego, status, entitlement - all features of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

[@kimthomas781]

I have an acquaintance here in OKC (republican of course) who is refusing to put up a privacy fence (bad blood between neighbors) because: are you ready for this? Because it would partially benefit them. Sigh…..

[@danjohnston9037]

@@kimthomas781 Sounds familiar. That kind of jerk has always existed, just not all gathered together in ONE political party.

[@LJ-ht4zs]

@@badomaji Interesting, they rallied around trump - the biggest entitled SOB ever, who always screwed the little man, black, Hispanic or white. Those who stormed the Capiitol did so at el Trumpo's clarion call.

[@ALL_CAPS__]

When someone else's equality feels like your oppression, that is the height of privilege. These snowflakes must be defeated!

[@briobarb8525]

Well saidagain!!!

[@bzert281]

Guilty? Who's asking people to feel guilty for slavery? Are you the guilty party, if the previous owner of your house, let it fall apart? No. Are you the party who now has RESPONSIBILITY, for REPAIRING the house? YES. Guilt-for, and responsibility-for, are very different things. We honor those who take responsibility, right?

[@shinyshinythings]

Well said!

[@deverrickholmes3643]

Exactly! No one is asking for anyone to feel guilty. What people want is recognition that what happened in the past has had some impact on the present.

[@WhiteSpatula]

To any conservatives who feel entitled to.. oops.. I mean, born deserving (in the spirit of feigned right-wing concern about semantics).. the right to take pride in the deeds of their ancestors: Don’t forget that you should also feel ashamed of their misdeeds. It might help you convince others that you’re merely hypocrites instead of cherry-picking hypocrites.

[@KatySueWho]

That’s a great point

[@LJ-ht4zs]

Their ancestors were not them - ask them where the parents grandparents or lineage were born. Certainly are not the "Mayflower"group.

[@dsddala467]

It always amazes me, that they can't say: Yes, people in the past were wrong. As if, generations in the past somehow make them wrong now. How fragile your sense of self must be if you can't criticize past generations because you feel you lose something when you do. What a sad life to live.

[@mattcwatkins]

An interesting and pointed analysis that I think hits fairly close to the mark. I've tended to minimize the sense of loss by some as fake or half-baked, but perhaps I'll adjust when I deal with these kinds of folks....which seem to be numerous in my community. It might better help pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of those that want to minimize the slavery part of our past while simultaneously over-venerating the other stuff.

[@gordonadams5891]

Although every state has anti militia laws, these groups are thriving. Why aren't states prosecuting?

[@kimthomas781]

I think it is because the folks in charge secretly hope the militia groups succeed.

[@chaserofthelight1737]

Same reason the Republicans voted against purging the military and police force of racist.

[@samanthab1923]

That’s what I don’t get.

[@andyroo9381]

All of this just, plain scares me. My beautiful country is being torn apart by lies and hate. I, honestly, do not see a way out of this, except for a cataclysmic happening that would bring our country together. This means a world war or an invasion of the USA. It truly hurts me to see my country like this.

[@LJ-ht4zs]

Actually all our wars since WWII created devisions: Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc. A World War would probably entail nuclear weapons would just create total destruction. Bush et al in creating the big lie, forever cemented in my mind that only those, "Dreaming War for Oil" get something out of creating wars - and those who go to them, fight and die, get PTSD.

[@shawnmurray9964]

Me too, but I’m not quite as pessimistic. I’m certain that they are outnumbered, they are just really loud. Loud mouthed & empty handed, and seemingly proud to be. It won’t end well for them.

[@TheMahayanist]

@@shawnmurray9964 They're outnumbered yes, and losing. But that doesn't mean you won't do desperate things when you're losing.

[@alphaomega8373]

Another great guest. I pretty much agree and see similar things.

[@denvergojoe]

Incredible reporting, per usual. Gracias.

[@chrisoffersen]

Is it strange that the “victimhood” grievance is also what animates propaganda in Russia?

[@redbird726]

Fabricated Victimhood. Nailed it.

[@jenniferstone2975]

Excellent interview with a thoughtful, articulate and reasoned person.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Good interview, will check out guest's book.

[@danallyn7]

I looked up the author & title of his book - my library in Denver has it on audio, ebook. Hold on it now!!!

[@laurierosejones9531]

Portland Oregon police were caught conspiring with the proud boys on multiple occasions. Fun times.

[@CaminoAir]

I'm Irish. When I first heard reports of rioting that day (while I was at work) I obviously believed that it would be fairly quickly dealt with (or at least contained). Several hours later, after returning home, I was horrified to see just how much carnage had occurred. America's international reputation has never been so damaged in modern times. The vulnerability of the political and democratic systems were clear. The end result of poor education standards, partisan media, shocking levels of lack of basic integrity, etc. This was the crystalisation of the rot within American society laid bare for the rest of the world to see, whether ally or foe. Republicans need to fully understand this. Corrosion of basic values and competence. Deep concern to The West and a wealth of propaganda to enemies. It's not just the usual accusations of double-standards by a major country like America in foreign affairs, it's the undermining of the core bedrock of competence.

[@ljimlewis]

Look to the GOP for turning the grievances into votes. Odd isn’t it. GOP = The Rich. The Rightwing Christians. The Hardright Intelligentsia. M-16 lookalike gun owners. Bigots. All organized by Republicans. Those fools don’t even know the Rich are screwing them. See, I used to vote GOP. Hell, 3 generations of my immigrants parents, grandparents voted GOP.

[@timyatcak3292]

Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote that is the ONLY method we have to destroy thee CLOWS. get your friend to register and WARN them that they must express themselves NOW, before that right is LOST

[@sarahhopkinsluvscats]

They just want to be mad.

[@mistercohaagen]

Mad and dumb, looking for a fight.

[@allthingswavy6420]

Maybe the most important observation Mogelson makes here is how mutable a strong negative emotional charge (anger, loss of hope, loss of a personal sense of power) is to an equally negative administrative power. Once a person loses control of his or her own emotional awareness and discernment they are much more easily controlled by the emotions of someone else. This principle is the root of all cult and abusive partner practices. We are now seeing this basic principle being played out on a world-level scale :-(.

[@myturn1274]

Why are there people who participated in the insurrection already in jail but trump isn’t? I thought he had been proven to have broken laws, but idk, they keep bringing up more illegal stuff and still, nope, just regular peeps

[@robertcox433]

They have to be real careful about how they approach this particular issue. It’s the Presidential position that must be protected from potential damage. It must be handled in a manner that doesn’t seem to be too partisan and that there’s enough evidence to justify the verdict. And the Presidential seat may have to have the powers and limitations edited and proclaimed for ratification publicly to educate the people. From the President to the clergy of this country; too many assumptions of authority has created misinformation and confusion’s. Such ambiguity lead to conspiracies running amok.

[@choosewisely616]

Because there is just so much junk to sort through. Seems like everything he touched is tainted, faked, falsified, etc. There are so many cases against him, not just Jan 6.

[@greenbrain8725]

I would assume that, in the background, Congress is quietly changing rules to prevent future presidents from shenanigans. In the meantime, for the good of the country, they will let Tisha James take down the Trump crime family for civilian crimes. I hope that at the very least Congress or the DOJ announces that Trump, because of his bad behaviour re Jan 6, is no longer allowed to run for office. I imagine this strategy allows justice without creating further division and harm for the US. I wouldn’t be surprised if the DOJ was expediting the civil lawsuit behind the scenes.

[@lindarichards4408]

As many legals have indicated, usually the prosecutors start at the bottom and work their way up to the big guys....gotta get all those ducks in a row with the solid details.

[@wmgodfrey1770]

Dear A.&Co., Please add subtitles. Especially since this is an important report (e.g., Interview with author who's a top journalist, & a kind of Overview of his rather prescient book). Thx.

[@beverleybarnes5656]

@ Wm Godfrey. To access subtitles, just click on "CC" at top right of the screen. There's also a transcript: click on the video's title and scroll down (below the description).

[@kristibbradshaw]

I never got the memo saying that America wasn’t still great.

[@origmoojazz]

Exceptionally good interview, Thabo you. Looking forward to getting the book

[@kimthomas781]

I think it’s time for me to apply for some part one work at the Oklahoma state election board.

[@sallytomata1]

I have ordered Mogelson's book. Thank you

[@stephaniemerlin1]

That was well worth watching, thank you...

[@clarkpalace]

Seeing the worst, and i assume some of the best, human acts must b a great lesson

[@kristinamelnichenko5775]

Thank you!

[@danielkotorman5780]

trump into jail!

[@804pine]

"It" is fear and despair after 40 plus years of wage stagnation, the gutting of the middle class, jobs being moved to other countries, the homelessness crisis, etc.

[@auntiesocial808]

If you want to understand their anger drive through the “hoods” of places like Pittsburgh, Cleveland and Philadelphia. Their once thriving blue collar jobs, lifestyles, hopes and homes have been abandoned. They feel forgotten.

[@janes7227]

Except studies show that the majority of these hooligans are well off and don't even care about the poor. Like the lady who chartered a private jet to the j6 riots. Even their leader (Trump) is a billionaire who lives in a palace. It's what is known in sociology as "aggrieved privilege" . It's been a pattern in American history since we stole the first acre of land from the Indians.

[@lindamullins1446]

That has happened in WV and many states.

[@dsddala467]

Yes, so it's not minorities--it's corporations. It's always corporations: the disappearance of the middle class, jobs shipped oversees, crappy jobs replacing them with low pay, zero benefits and crappy or unreliable hours. But they would rather blame a human they can see and overpower. They love their violence.

[@Dade333311]

"So foul and fair a day I have not seen"

[@farokudahitam]

They will try again.

[@wookinooki9023]

maybe Lansing was a rehearsal for Jan 6? is there a topless guy with a LOWB (Loyal Order of the Water Buffalos) horned hat?

[@wookinooki9023]

4:30 duh!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@wookinooki9023]

5:45 and they are told that it doesn't matter if they have a clear idea of what "IT" is (in the phrase "Take it back"). They are encouraged to think that having no clear purpose is a good thing, maybe even better than having a clear purpose.

[@wookinooki9023]

15:00 because there's now 2 kinds of police.

[@sylviewalker7560]

Please address Julian Assange persecution and destruction of "speech and access to facts, details and compromised wrongful positions'....please and thank you. These things are connected. Reality is fuzzy for most.

[@LJ-ht4zs]

Also all our pols were against him - male, female, black and white. They don't want Julian Assange to be the hero of the people that he is - they want to portray him as the devil. Previously, The Pentagon Papers showed the USA was involved in a not winnable war it was part of US strategy from Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, Johnson, Nixon etc etc. JFK, after he got enmeshed in Bay of Pigs thanks to CIA - began to realize what was going on in our foreign policy and was thinking of disposing of the CIA and talked about getting out of Vietnam in near future - not only said it in his speeches also was seen in his notes (still exists). Well he was assassinated after this.

[@Dadd00]

The people are victims but they are refusing to look at the real culprits. It is easier to attack other victims to make the ignorant feel vindicated.

[@mandyinseattle]

9:30 What a story, reminiscent of Dr King's powerful, moral movement.

[@highserenity49]

I have been in terror since I saw one of these men carrying a flag on a pipe that had been altered to be able to hide a LONG KNIFE that he could pull out at any time. He was very proud.

[@barbarabarnett9600]

Thank you for just stating facts and reasonable inferences. I am so sobered by the state of the political minority throughout America. They seem to seethe with anger, directed at random.

[@dsddala467]

It's not random, it's self serving as the guest pointed out. They look for easy targets, like that one man-child who called out the BLM protester and said he looked "weak," while the moronic militia man stood their with a riffle and bullet proof vest. That's like telling a squirrel it's weak as you run it over with your car. Definitely not an intellectually or emotional honest idea.

[@louisesumrell6331]

"It" is the position atop the patriarchal dominance hierarchy. They are seeing the assumption of their supremacy eroding, and that scares them deeply. They think that they will do very poorly without the longstanding unearned place at the top... Being "demoted" "down" to the place of people that they have stood on the necks of..."forever", is their worst nightmare.

[@wookinooki9023]

😍😍😍

[@orlandorosajr7344]

My advice is instead of building prisons we should be building mental institutions.😅

[@cherylmccloud8709]

This guy has MASSIVE insight & explains your current "civil war" predicament so eloquently & logicallly! FINALLY put Trump in JAIL/VOTE!🇱🇷

[@sylviewalker7560]

Us...us...its all us. 'We have met the enemy and it is us.' In the mirror our souls, minds and hearts must look.

[@gabriellerose3839]

It goes back to how the GFC was dealt with where people lost their homes and Wall Street was bailed out. Then there was a crash in the manufacturing industry. So who is to blame? Listen to Laurie Anderson’s “Experts”

[@melanifatula9123]

Surely the correct departments are aware of domestic terrorists and their motives. They certainly have they ability and logistics to to at least defend the us constitution. I hope!

[@roberthanks1636]

Lots of insights by Luke Mogelson: right wing anger is deeply held, "nebulous" and "high;y mutable."

[@edwardjones856]

It is the income inequality.

[@laurie113]

And everything being sold to China and Now India.

[@mariaczubernat6634]

That's all about the great replacement theory that they believe to be the truth. They are angry and fearfull which is not a good mix.

[@debraa.155]

When you here stuff over and over and over and backed by politicians...then you group up at these rallies...it makes you a part of something...and you think your group is millions strong...what could go wrong????

[@dustinbasurto7371]

Still surprised people think it was Rosa Parks who was kicked off the bus, she took up the fight for another lady who it really happened to.

[@HighLevelNinja]

Good interview, but I'm quite confused. It was blatantly obvious to me where all this was going back when the Fine People comment happened. It just seems like a seasoned war correspondent would know more than me. Perhaps because I was also monitoring their online presences, and know the history of the various Michigan Militia groups?

[@HighLevelNinja]

And of course KZbin isn't letting me edit this comment. Anywayz. The hypocrisy is going to keep confusing pundits until they realize that it's purposeful gaslighting. When trying to understand and address the pendulus changes in their beliefs, suddenly a lot falls into place when looking at it from the abusers' mentality of confusing the victims. Continuing to address it as if it's hypocrisy, you're a victim.

[@mandyinseattle]

15:34 💯%

[@kdgckg]

Most victimhood cults comes from manipulation of emotions by a cult leader…

[@lyndonbarsten393]

Jason Stanley in his book "How Fascism Works" lays out ten tenets of fascism. I think all ten are discussed in this report.

[@mnemosynevermont5524]

When someone asks "why should I feel guilty," a good answer is: Why DO you feel guilty? Why, when we protest racism, do you you get so worked up about it that you drive for miles to harass us about it? Why CAN'T you ignore us and go on about your life? What's THAT about?

[@ToddDouglasFox]

Give a thumbs up 👍 if you’re sane.

[@mondoenterprises6710]

We've seen what happened in Memphis and we've seen the guy who killed his family in IL.

[@josefk.122]

I wonder if this is the same Luke Mogelson I went to art school with. He was an insanely talented writer and poet....hmmmmmm

[@ruebensfilms]

The lack of objectivity and critical thinking is at the core of their rationality.

[@JaneHallstrom1]

“Feeling something rightfully belonging to them has been taken away” This is the story of the Book of Mormon. The Lamanites hated the Nephites because they thought their rightful position of leadership was taken away. They taught their children to hate and eventually both groups annihilated one another. It’s a cautionary tale for our day. Read The Book of Mormon and abide by its precepts

[@rosemoss9380]

He recognized some of the same people at the Capitol that were in Michigan. I hope he told the FBI...

[@shawnrisley2404]

I fear some distant relatives have these views. I've needed to hear how they have come to these views.

[@mks6148]

These are the same type of people that perpetrated the Tulsa Black Wall Street massacre.

[@clarkpalace]

Aren’t enough views of this vid

[@LMNevada]

Really outstanding thoughts but his hesitation made it hard to hear.

[@gghhiiyy456]

Good one. What is ‘it’? White impunity?

[@taom9004]

In 2016, I was in France getting my library card. The lady who helped me said her 18 year old son stayed up all night watching the US election. When she left for work he was crying. The rest of the free world just doesn't understand it. I'm a Canadian and we are now touched, but not to the same degree, by this victim culture. I think it's the right-wing ecosystem and social media. That's the deciding variable.

[@mariemontgomery8341]

I’m sorry, who is the ‘they’ he is speaking of?

[@uknow1994]

I am sorry you can't glean who the "they" are

[@Patricia-vd9xh]

Mogelson was making an important point about the confrontation in Lansing, and the interviewer just cut him off and moved subject on. So you have decided what is worthy of being heard instead of genuine journalism. Why?

[@we7663]

It is fascinating to see how the victimhood beliefs of the woke left parallel that of the alt-right. We really need a strong, clear thinking moderate movement to demand some sanity.

[@cindyhidalgo4977]

I don't know why I came upon this video. Thank You. I understood what you were saying. It is what my thoughts are exactly. #1 These white people will use whatever they can to stir up hate and anger. # 2 They are very envious of any race other than white. #3 They think that this country only belongs to white people. Yet you don't see too many WHITE people doing the grunt work. Too busy at their hate rallies ,and don't want to do the tough work required to have a good country. They think their job is to just sit back and police the rest of Americans to make sure we are following their ideas ! #3 They want another Civil War. Maybe it all started with their upbringing , the bullies we all knew in school. I see no sign of goodness in their groups. And I suppose that is why we have wars. Goodness fighting Evil .

[@LK-bz9sk]

Meal Team Six

[@apolloskyfacer5842]

Sadly. if the Internet didn't exist. none of this paranoid nonsense would happen.

[@rochellemcdonald9646]

When the protesters were spitting at cops during the "LIBERATE" activities, I was hoping the police had their body cams on and were taking pictures to arrest people later. People are arrested for a lot less. Jan 6 might not have happened, or been as bad.

[@livingintheforest3963]

I am anti-Trump and not part of that group but it is very easy to understand it’s the way of life. People that are white and people that have been here a long time don’t want to see their way of life changed how hard is that to understand I feel the same way and I voted for Biden and Hillary because Trump is so dangerous but I feel the same way I don’t want massive immigration and I don’t want the country to change I’m 60 and I want to ride it out the way I knew it. That’s why I live in the country. We are becoming victims when English is practically a second language and our way of life is being destroyed before our eyes.

[@janicebrowningaquino792]

I want people to wake up. They don’t care if they are being manipulated as long as they are participants in ANY sort of group? If America lost it’s manufacturing economic base it is no one’s fault but our own. We bought into the concept of the ‘service society, using computers, internet, etc. not fighting through our voting to hang on to our manufacturing jobs that essentially made it possible to win WWII. I was raised in the Midwest and witnessed the abandonment of that essentially American idea of a strong middle class based predominantly on our manufacturing capabilities. We elected people who allowed greedy CEOS to move their companies to China where labor was cheep. The excuse was that Americans could afford more if the prices were dropped because production was less expensive. We bought that line and have paid for it ever since. Don’t look to Washington and do the blame game, WE are responsible because we ALLOWED it to happen. We must vote blue to bring it home to the average person and no longer into the pockets of the mega wealthy.

[@ricardodsavant2965]

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