War Thunder: German ground forces Rank II- review and analysis

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[@davasaurthereal4678]

Oxy: This tank is horrible it’s the worst don’t get it it’s terrible. Footage: *Oxy destroying the enemy team and taking over the world with said tank.*

[@Tamburahk]

in realistic mode................ most his kills are just using his 3d camera observation

[@piscessoedroen]

@@Tamburahk that's everyone, besides this review is more focused for rb

[@Tamburahk]

@@piscessoedroen true.......but be so excited he can do so many kills with even bad tanks is stupid when u consider msot of those tanks get advantige of that 3rd person camera :) lot of those tanks behave completely different in SB

[@piscessoedroen]

@@Tamburahk Ok, SB Elitist of course they behave completely different in sb because they're more useful and have a fair advantage in there, while rb/ab everyone gets the luxury of 3rd person peeking, rendering many tactic useless. trust me, getting good k/d ratio per match with shit tanks is easier in sb than rb especially at this tier

[@Tamburahk]

@@piscessoedroen well iam no elitist.......just pointing out being good while using 3rd person camera is not rly much an achievement...........thats what i wanted to say nothing else

[@nitnit_]

Timestamps Sd.Kfz.234/2 - 0:38 Marder III - 3:50 Marder III H - 7:14 8.8 cm Flak 37 Sfl. - 9:20 Pz.III J1 - 14:10 Pz.III L - 18:00 Pz.III M - 20:53 Pz.IV F1 - 22:18 Pz.IV F2 - 25:25 Sd.Kfz. 6/2 - 28:34 StuH 42 G - 31:55 StuG III F - 36:04 StuG III G - 40:01 Sd.Kfz.243/4 [Premium/Gaijin Marketplace] - 42:53 M4 748 (a) [Premium/Hidden] - 43:46 Pz.III N [Premium] - 45:05 Pz.Sfl.Ic [Premium/Pack] - 47:16 15 cm Pz.W.41 [Premium] - 50:16 T-34 747 (r) [Premium] - 54:22 He 111 H-6 [Close Air Support] - 57:30 Bf 110 C-7 [Close Air Support] - 58:00 Bf 110 G-2 [Close Air Support] - 58:20 Hs 129 B-2 [Clsoe Air Support] - 58:50 Hs 129 B-3 [Close Air Support] - 59:17 Me 410 A-1 [Close Air Support] - 59:50 Me 410 A-1/U4 [Close Air Support] - 1:00:09 Bf 110 C-6 [Close Air Support/Premium/Gaijin Marketplace] - 1:00:33 IL-2 (1942) [Close Air Support/Premium] - 1:01:15 Lineups - 1:01:58

[@oxy3185]

Thank you, King

[@andrehashimoto8056]

Well... Imagine when it reaches Soviets or US aircraft..... For their Tiers

[@InitiateDee]

@@andrehashimoto8056 Ohhhh b o y

[@fluffls]

Oxy you should pin this!!!

[@neatnoot214]

@@oxy3185 One thing that I feel might've missed though, is that the Bf 110 C-6 has a full HVAP-T belt, except the belt only fires a tracer every 3rd round, which diminishes the CAS performance it should have, but for a video thats over an hour long? Id be crazy not to love the video just the same. Your videos are always the best :D

[@ashishdeharia9137]

It's funny to see how you guys can see a tank far away 1-pixel-wide. And here I am, i cant see a green tank on a snowy hill

[@nerdomatic2489]

@General McBalls Unfortunately not dead yet, but progressively dying.

[@jdkirgaming5142]

Ashish Deharia There is so many times when I think a rock is a tank and vice versa

[@raoufdhn2856]

@@jdkirgaming5142 lol same 😂

[@tomasaguilar2298]

@@jdkirgaming5142 jajaja the same. When i think its a dead tank or a rock then it kill me in the back 😔🔫

[@stinkymonke3622]

Me playing arcade: i have no such weakness

[@oxy3185]

Couple of bits I got wrong- I mispronounce the 8,8cm Flak truck as '88cm' (Imagine!) The price of the captured IL-2 is 850, not 950, And the price of the Captured T-34 is 2,460, not 2,480

[@jmirsp4z]

i also sometimes "accidentally" get my centimeters wrong...

[@gennehring1]

Great video as always! Fell better!

[@barrackobama5818]

Dont forget about using the Puma in high tier, its all i do now. you can effectively kill Bradley's and Abram's with it using its APCR shell

[@philbob200]

When talking about the German Sherma, all the audio goes to the left Ear, just a heads up.

[@hubertusxvi6877]

88cm canon *German bias*

[@ariefbudi427]

i will make a lineup consist of all "consider" or "avoid" vehicle

[@stupidlogic2987]

I've already done that because I know fuck all about tanks and managed to pick all the shit ones!! Wish this vid had been available a few months ago!

[@rarespetrusamartean5433]

@@stupidlogic2987 man I hated the panzer 3's tho...

[@thegamingfish547]

@@rarespetrusamartean5433 they look really cool tho

[@lukeskywalket2894]

Can't wait for Rank III!

[@PeliSotilas]

@Nein_Nein_Fegelein Tiger H1 is good for it's tier, if you know how to use it.

[@thelaotianaviator]

Nein_Nein_Fegelein No god please no. Not the wehraboos wanting the Tiger E at 5.3. The Tiger E is fine at 5.7. I don’t see why it needs a down tier. It will still get killed by 76mm American shells or a firefly. The SU-85 can kill it too. Besides I will miss bullying Tiger 1s with my T29 and M26 Pershing.

[@yevua5049]

Epic Is-2 commander that's exactly why it would be good to lower the br, it would be more competitive

[@arturwasikiewicz5992]

@Nein_Nein_Fegelein ostwind as Get it? In which reality?

[@reinbeers5322]

@@thelaotianaviator The H1 got lowered to 5.3, where it does much better. No uptier into impenetrable 6.7 tanks and you can actually get a fair fight with Jumbos.

[@chinglegitrdx6135]

The Panzer III M does have a pretty big pro going for it : It looks *g o o d* Oh and it does also have smoke launchers. But the aesthetic are mroe important.

[@lorandsilye1464]

So it's a Vaporwave vehicle? 😀 I like that.

[@jesspayne5548]

Ching LegitRDX I love the look of the pz3 and 4

[@banegas0411]

Pz3s and pz4s are so under armored compared to shermans and shermans get that amazing one axis gyrostabilizer

[@Driver-qt9jh]

I agree, this ismthe only tank I want from the German tech tree, so I can make a 1944 underdog loadout

[@KP3droflxp]

The III L and Ms are basically heavy tanks now with volumetric

[@muziekjes6811]

11:33 Speaking about the 88's time fuse shell, yes, dont use it against air. You can use it to shoot at opentops behind cover! Just rangefind the rock it's behind and shoot right over it, that will hurt a lot. I challenge you to make a video doing just that! Good luck, love your video.

[@beetlejuice9073]

Like that airburst from battlefield

[@thebravegallade731]

well if its a light vehile it will

[@mikhialkalshnikov5573]

I have done this ... the reported me for hacking but I was fine

[@comatose1818]

I find the name "German Sherman" really amusing, it's like a cute nickname for a dog

[@michealschumacher5198]

Herman the german sherman

[@mariebailey4310]

Herman the German Sherman

[@AB-rv2lj]

Herman the German Sherman

[@riko5651]

Herman the German sherman

[@shawn3064]

Herman the German Sherman

[@Beowulf_DW]

About the Panzerwerfer ("Eet Verfs Panzers!") historically, it was meant for and used for massed rocket artillery strikes. In short, it's meant for area bombardment, not precision strikes at close range except as a last resort. So, it is, in fact, working as intended.

[@andrehashimoto8056]

One stupid, but satisfying way to use the FlaK HE.... Enemy behind indestructible cover? He's a milk truck or something really open? Load HE, rangefind a point a little behind or side of cover, fire above the cover, if you aim well enough, the HE will explode close enough to have the shrapnel kill the crew

[@EvoSwatch]

21:15 once in map 'Poland' the side skirts helped me absorb enemy shots though, i dont know how. But i took like 5 shots, and didnt die. Side skirts are pretty useful against weaker HEAT, HE, and enemy aircraft firing rockets, or bombs. But dont expect it will help against KV-2.

[@thebravegallade731]

will help against an HE shot to the side, but not the AC

[@AmazinglyTip]

Lol everything works on the kv 2

[@magicmaninc.5657]

I've shot the KV-2's HE shell at the sideskirts of a StuG, it only tracked it. Can confirm that they do work, sometimes

[@stuglife5514]

@@magicmaninc.5657 did I hear StuG?

[@christophervanoster]

I find when I’m fight Sherman’s with the 105 just turn sideways and suddenly in a panzer 3 N or M you’re invincible. They never load AP, and their HEAT and HE doesn’t do anything because of the skirts. So against the Sherman 105 it’s useful

[@mistapeper1283]

Real life: thicc armour and Thicc gun WT: thicc gun Paper armour

[@teph1256]

no one: gaijin: let's give the best version of a soviet vehicle to germany

[@ParanoidAlaskan]

T-34-57 and T-34-85: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@lorandsilye1464]

Then give the best Panther to the Soviets. Genius.

[@zepetv589]

@@ParanoidAlaskan both of those have crap armor for their BR

[@ParanoidAlaskan]

@@zepetv589 Armor isnt the only metric. The T-34-57 is a little above the captured T-34 and STZ but has an amazing gun with a short reload that makes up for the lack of armor. The 85 also has a way better gun and better mobility. Both of these tanks are much better then the German premium one and STZ. Plus, these tanks are rank 3 so have better SL and RP modifiers and can be used to do special tasks while the German premium and STZ can not.

[@zepetv589]

@@ParanoidAlaskan It's not the only metric but the STZ's gun while inferior can pen most stuff at it's BR without too much issue and has much better post pen damage than the 57, the 85 is 1.3 tiers above the STZ it's gun has to be much better since it's facing Jumbos and Tigers. The last part is not part of the argument, just talking purely about how good they are on their BRs.

[@Zorro9129]

The addition of the MG on top of the Pz. III M improves its viability considerably, you can now engage enemy aircraft and light vehicles!

[@g.williams2047]

Panzer 3M looks amazing, it deserves to be played frequently.

[@spicysaladkid5098]

"I got the flu over the holiday" Hmmm bingeing tea and crumpets are you?? Jokes aside, can't wait to watch this 5 times before you upload another one.

[@howcanyoureadthistheresnop9244]

SpicySaladKid hE hAs cOrOnA oMg

[@thecascadianhiker9465]

"It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea" The most British thing ever said.

[@vaclav_fejt]

I thought that was a common saying. And not just in the English language.

[@ExecutiveGoth]

Václav Fejt it is lol, for example in French you have the same expression

[@andypants1000]

Yeah I'm west canada and we say it a lot.

[@BushcraftEurope]

innit mate ?

[@asteranightshade2981]

It's a really common phrase

[@athiftsabit1208]

Don't say sorry for making a great videos. Long video duration never be a problem, as long as the explanation are detailed like this. I highly appreciate your time and effort for making this series.

[@beneggo8062]

Been waiting for this video for ages thank you Oxy appreciate how much effort you put into these 👍🏻

[@HardyHardyHar]

Its here! I was thinking about when this would release yesterday and i feel a bit psychic.

[@nathanflynn9276]

I've found I can get a full 30second repair off in the stug 42 even when facing constant fire from several tanks

[@destroyerarmor2846]

It's a beast at range and so much satisfying 🤠

[@nathanflynn9276]

The only downside that I've ever had a problem with is reload speed

[@destroyerarmor2846]

@@nathanflynn9276 it doesn't matter when you can bounce so much shots

[@MorningGI0ry]

Buying several pakwagon’s for $25 a pop during operation suffer was the best move I’ve made in war thunder.

[@hrvatskibricks7745]

Remember getting mine for $30 I thought I paid too much!

[@secondsystem5901]

Hello, Oxy! I have two main suggestions: first, in the case of the StuH42 (and other vehicles) I think it may be worth differentiating between "penetration" and "post-penetration damage" instead of the catch-all term "firepower", to make it clearer where strengths and weaknesses lie. Additionally I'd like to point out that while the T-34 747 (r) is pricey in terms of GE it does show up in the warbond shop, which does make it obtainable for "free"; I'm thinking in terms of having playtime in on another nation's tree and earning warbonds from daily missions that way before jumping into Germany. Looking forward to the mid-tier videos, especially since though they are overall quite good I have mixed feelings about the Panthers (especially when having to fight British sabot), and I'm interested in what you have to say about them! Keep up the good work!

[@dunamoose3446]

does the M8A1 show up there too? i want it

[@firecrestlover4546]

8:36 look at the shadow, you will see Hans and Fritz acting like Jesus (levitating)

[@tbird1991]

I seriously can't believe that you only have 20k subscribers for the content you make. There is no other war thunder channel with this level of quality and polish other than maybe the official channel. Seriously man, the quality on these videos is amazing. Keep doing what you are doing, because surely with consistent quality like this, your channel WILL keep growing.

[@tsoares2332]

This is an amazing review! Thank you

[@DaSpineLessFish]

I think you should manually be able to change the timer of the shells with manually adjusting for range. If i set my gun for 1500m then the fuse should set to that range. Using the rangefinder is a pretty dumb way of doing it because it's useless.

[@HectorMendoza-zs6ff]

I feel as many premiums in the could easily be free and also help alleviate many roles that are currently unfulfilled by free tanks

[@cincinnatiking8008]

Thank you for taking the time making this video! This is where I am at with the game right now. It was very helpful on picking which tanks to research!

[@philbob200]

When talking about the German Sherma, all the audio goes to the left Ear, just a heads up.

[@Rothinger]

finally, keep it going, great job

[@musher52]

The skirts on the Pz III M have saved me from artillery shrapnel a couple of times, and they can also help quickly work out which direction you've been shot from if they get destroyed

[@Eonymia]

My left ear enjoyed hearing about the German Sherman

[@xvang9346]

The 2020 German Sherman sales were sold out so fast, glad I got one when only 485 were still left out of 2020

[@its__darkness]

as always great video cant Wait to get to tier 2 kip up the great work and cant wait for the next one

[@miloda_bess]

These videos are really enjoyable. I like how you go into depth with each video and how it best would work for its rank.

[@AryanneHoofler]

54:50 I really like that player took for granted it was a T34 and disregarded the all the signs pointing out as enemy.

[@Alpakinator]

You are right, explosive filler of and APPHE shell contributes to damage in a quite insignificant way except when it's counted in kilograms. Calliber is main factor to post pen damage. 100mm gun with 100g of TNT deals more damage than 90mm gun with 520g of TNT etc. Just the fact that APHE has more than 0g of TNT filler makes it deal it's great damage

[@JonTTu111]

PZ III:s with extra armour are impervous to early MD5 fused shells, because they have like 0.1m fuse delay, so they detonate between extra plate and main armour. I have not played these low tier germans in years, so game mechanics might been changed since then. I took fighting T-34 & KV-1 tanks with J1 model as a challenge. I did learn their weakspots pretty easily and they were easily sent back to gulag. And when I got the extra armor versions, they were kinda trivial to deal.

[@redem_up4534]

when i started playing war thunder this video would have helped me get starter. i remember getting frustrater whit the panzer. GOOD GOD THAT i didn't stop playing war thunder then. whit out my patiens i wouldn't be at 10.0

[@ritutanwer6524]

Yer only at 10.0?? Wut about 10.3?

[@redem_up4534]

@@ritutanwer6524 yeah. The highest br is 10.0 or the leopard 2A4

[@ritutanwer6524]

@@redem_up4534 I was just joking. But there is br 10.3 for some nations. For example the M1A2 for the Americans is at 10.3 and so is the T-80U. Look it up. Still i was only joking. Don't take me seriously. Hehe

[@beanboozlerr]

He forgot one weakness of the 88mm flak, that weakness is the huge ammunition storage box in the back. One shot at that and bam that enemy is really dead

[@soeftjr]

I think that Pz.3 L is a must have medium tank. If you angle your 75mm hull armour it will bounce anything, turret can take quite a bit of a punishment too

[@timmy3822]

Good lord, over an hour!? Oxy you madlad! Low tier Germany is honestly some of the most fun you can have in the game IMO, such a varied selection of vehicles. From open top Marders to the Stugs, Pz.III/IV's, Pumas, Flakbus... Let's not even talk about the various Ju-87;s, Hs-129's, Me-410's etc.

[@MercenaryJedi]

The StuG III F was my favorite vehicle in that tier back when I first started playing War Thunder, in spite of its weaknesses. Not really sure why, but I felt like I did consistently better with that one over the PzIV F2. I actually avoided the StuG III G entirely because it wasn't needed to unlock any other tanks in the tree. In fact, for similar reasons like that I didn't use any other tank destroyer until I got to the IV/70. Of course, I played Arcade back then (Realistic was an exercise in pointlessness), so that might have made the difference.

[@simon6157]

Stug III G is the best German tank destroyer

[@dse763]

"Of course, I played Arcade back then (Realistic was an exercise in pointlessness), so that might have made the difference." It is different : the Panze IV F2 is 3.7 in AB so you can match with the StuG III F.

[@jbperrinnl]

I really like how consistent you are with your notation system. Really good video, useful and informative!

[@PNolandS]

“The Pewma”

[@BruceLee-xy9tc]

Thank god im not the only one

[@MRKnowitallaboutRFOM]

That's how it's pronounced

[@friday3810]

@@MRKnowitallaboutRFOM in german it would be more like "Pooma"

[@julianmorrisco]

Poo-mah just sounds wrong. And if the argument is that’s the way the Germans pronounce it, I expect you say Yag-teager, Leo-pahd, Veer-bell-vind etc etc as well. Which is fine, but I’m ok with people pronouncing words common to both languages in their native language, and outside the USA and Ireland, most people say pew-mah.

[@halolime117]

@@julianmorrisco it is prononced PoohMah. i dont get how in english its pewma, Peumah haha

[@GiskardRevenlov]

Dont forget the puma can be a major nuisance at 7.7 if you get good side shots

[@PLANETRAILROAD]

Drinking game, take a shot every time he says Range

[@blackrifle3742]

I died, thanks a lot

[@TheMadVulpen]

Germany stronk

[@dunamoose3446]

One thing of note with the Marder III, it has smoke shells while the H doesn't. This has saved me more than once, and while it's not a good enough advantage to justify taking it over the H variant, it is good to know.

[@user-jw4fn6fh2x]

Glad you are better. Welcome back.

[@NaviTheSilent]

Waited for a long while, thanks friend I love your content and voice.

[@domesticterrorist7111]

43:45 jesus you scared me when you came around to the left

[@Scongi]

21:18 yeah same I use the pz 4 skirts variant and it rarely saves me but its great against revenge bombs. If they drop the bomb to your side you will suffer less damage/no damage at all. But it really doesnt make any difference in base gameplay.

[@PotatoeJoe69]

The spaced armor on the Pz.III M is much more effective now after the volumetric shell update. It certainly helps against the 105mm dep shermans, which seem to 1 hit kill every single tank with HE

[@thermobollocks]

"The rockets make a cool noise" I'm sold.

[@AFT_05G]

Right now Panzer IV H is at 3.7 and it also received a slight penetration buff few months ago(just like American 76 in 2019) and i’d say it’s kinda overpowered right know especially with add-on tracks.

[@Mr_3raqi]

39:17 that m22 gave me a good laugh 😂😂

[@wordsisnukes]

Your analysis and recommendations are invaluable to new players and refreshing to experienced players.

[@PaulsToolReview]

Panzer III J1 and Panzer III J1 TD are both 2.7 since this video came out and work well in a 2.7 line up with the 2.7 Puma and 2.7 StuH 42 G or even Panzer IV F1 (2.3). Agree that when the Panzer III J1 was at 3.0 it was quickly out classed. The Panzer III L, M, and N make great line up at 3.0 along with a few 2.7 or 3.3 tanks to fill in the ranks if needed. Next great line up is at 4.0 with many captured tanks and Panzer IV H and Gs.

[@CRENOKOGOD]

I agree with the stug3F I used to play it in my 3.3 tanks but it only got me up tiered so I switched to the StuH and I don’t regret it

[@hamaru7642]

It's really weird: The Stug III F is one of my favorite and best tank, but I really struggle with the G variant.

[@Miron_Marnic]

I love all german tank destroyers from armored line.

[@Kottery]

I will never stop being glad that I pushed myself to the point of getting a fever in order to get the money yeeeeaaars ago so that I could buy the German Sherman closed beta pack. One of the best tanks I have on my account. A nifty side effect it used to have is that people would often hold their shot for a split second because there weren't Shermans in every single tech tree once upon a time so that split second would cost everyone their tank.

[@szucsoliverleonard]

The panzer 3m is one of the best tanks you can use in SB if you know how to angle yourself nothing can pen you, i recomend going in brawling and shooting the weakspots of the enemy tanks. i promise you will have great results at the end of the match!

[@bagofsunshine3916]

the *piuma* No oxy, there's no 'i' in there, it's just 'puma'.

[@snowclone5650]

he's from the UK man they just pronounce shit like that to piss us off

[@mashuushiro4267]

peuma

[@JackC92]

P-you-ma

[@nathancomalander4417]

Poo-mah

[@Luredreier]

17:21 I hate that I agree with you on that one... The j1 used to be nice back before the changes to how shells worked... Back then I could take out even shermans and KV-1s reliably in all the tier 2 panzer 3s... Now... Ugh, while still *possible* it's *so* painful... 18:31 A tiny difference in engine to weight ratio I believe? But yeah, the L is definitively a trade off well worth making as the weight is hardly noticeable while the armor definitively is. 20:53 I don't really use them after the shell changes... But before them I used the L for higher br matches and the M for lower br matches where the armor is more reliable and the trade off in weight vs the engine power is worth it. At higher br you're going to be penned anyway so I prefer the L there over the M as I find the mobility more useful in keeping myself alive then the armor there while the armor of the L is still worth it vs the J1. Of course back then the front armor of the L used to be reliable vs the sherman... 21:33 Depends on the br, it's actually *worse* then the L at higher brs in my opinion due to a increase in tanks that don't care about the armor. 24:53 I actually think of it as a long range tank, it *can* beat the Panzer 4 F2 in pen with the best HEAT round at longer ranges at some angles. It's shell is slow though so only useful long range vs stationary targets. 27:00 Well, in my about 5 k games in the Panzer 4 F2 I mostly use it as a semi-short range brawler to be honest. That said, my crews got a free gold star for this tank due to me having played it so much... And I've *also* maxed out things like the driving skill, reload etc... Heck, most of my crew even got maxed out health... (Yes, I know that I'd probably be better off with manual gear changes in terms of efficiency, but given my drivers skills I prefer having less to think about in that regard although I do have a keybind to change that on a moments notice if needed) 29:43 I *really* like it myself. But yeah, it's *definitively* not newbie friendly... That said, it's a fun vehicle to use and to make work. 30:23 Considering that I surprisingly often find myself getting killed after messing up in a real tank with zero kills only to become one of the top 3 players with this thing *not* just using it for ambushing I don't really agree with you on that one... You *can* be aggressive with it at 3.3 and down and do quite well if you know what you're doing. It can be quite a intense experience though. I actually prefer it vs the Whirblewind. (I'm one of those people who prefer the Ostwind over the Whirblewind and just in general like having fewer but bigger caliber guns on my AAs) Regarding your pro vs con thing... Not sure if I'd go *quite* as far as calling the mobility and accuracy *poor* pr say, they're both ok and nothing I find getting in my way. For me it feels way, way, way better then the previous AA, but meh, I think it's a bit of a preference thing... 38:03 I got a lot of use out of it due to the jumboes being 5.0 back in the day (meaning that you could face them at 4.0), and I value mobility over armor most of the time. The StuG III F turns on a dime when you get it up to speed so it's quite fun to just yolo it on city maps, driving full speed into the front line, rounding a corner at full tilt, killing two or three enemies before they're even able to lower their gun enough to hit you, using their team mates as cover etc just being a general pain in the butt. They usually expect a panzer 4 F2 at this br anyway so they're prepared to take out that super dangerous panzer 4 gunner. I prefer it by far over both the 42 and the G personally. But I'm somewhat biased due to quite strongly favoring the 3.3-3.7 br lineups over 4.0 ones due to the match ups... 40:24 "No hit to mobility"... I guess we have different sensitivity to tank weight... For me tanks like the Panzer 3 M and StuG III G are night and day compared to the Panzer 3 L and StuG III F with the lighter variants generally being preferable, especially when facing higher br tanks... Likewise I prefer the Panzer 4 F2 over the Panzer 4 G, J and H even at those brs... (Yes, I *do* notice the higher weight of the G but I don't notice any advantage over the improved armor) The thing I like about the StuG III G isn't so much the armor but it's higher pen, I kind of wish I could get that gun in a StuG III F variant, or possibly some hybrid approach similar to the Panzer 3 L vs the J1 and M.) That said, the StuG III Gs armor is really nice when facing lower br enemies, there the trade off in weight is arguably worth it. I just find the StuG III F more versatile. End of video: Hum, regarding the Panzer 2 H, it got tracks instead of wheels and it's smaller, both of those can be a advantage in rough terrain with lots of rocks to cover behind. As for the planes... I bring a lot more then just 5 crew slots (used golden eagles from the wages you get as login gift on crew spots) so I bring 3 planes not just 1 in tank rb as Germany. But if I where to choose at that br I'd pick the Bf 109 E4 myself. The E4 got better ammo vs planes then the E3 and it can bring bombs without losing any firepower unlike the F variants while also being better at recovering from a steep dive then the F variant when using the flaps, they also allow it to fly slower for more accurate bomb drops, and it tends to surprise enemy planes in a 1 v 1 due to the effectiveness of its flaps. In a 2 v 2 you'd be better off with the F variants, but in a 1 v 1 the E actually does quite well in ground battles, ambushing enemy planes and then dropping bombs on enemy tanks. I can dog fight effectively with it even without dropping my bomb and usually do keep it in most engagement till the fight is over. My other two planes depends on the br, but usually it's the two JU 88s with the heavy fighter variant being replaced by the 110 when fighting at a high enough br for the G variant of the 110 It's a good video, even though I disagree with a lot of what you said. ;-) As for the whole HEAT thing, that's just a preference thing I thing, but I think of them as a long range weapon... But meh...

[@Tweaks____]

War Thunder Jules Verne OMEGALUL

[@SuperiorBrick]

TL;DR

[@konstanow1367]

Oxy: the vehicle is totally useless and you can avoid it. Also him: makes 10 kills with it

[@torlakkarstad4251]

The Pz.III J1 is at 2.7, so it’s like a little more armored Puma without the speed.

[@iemozzomei]

I was wondering where the time went, then I realised the video was an hour long. ...an hour in.

[@jelle_tendon]

2 months later and a ton of these BRs were moved all over the place lol

[@Alpakinator]

T 34 has such great angled armour pentration (better than statcard states) because it fires APHEBC shells. Russian AP(HE)BC shells have the best (among full caliber AP shells) normalization against angled armour, especially overmatched. It's way more capable than APCBC

[@Skyrimfan002]

The Panzer 3 J1 should really be moved down to 2.7. It has nothing exceptional at 3.0, and the Puma is more versatile with the same gun at 2.7. I see no reason how it is 3.0. Also, you know you are playing a good tech tree when even the ones where you say to avoid it, are good tanks. Can we start calling the German Sherman the Hermann Sherman?

[@Gustav_Kuriga]

And it was moved down...

[@lorandsilye1464]

4:55 Just hangin around with my Lil brother here, doing some stuff.

[@FlaminFaux]

I've noticed that, occasionally, in the Pz IIIL and M that, under the right circumstances, Sherman shells will detonate between the spaced armor and body of the tank, leaving you unharmed. Being angled increases this chance a bit. I can't really recreate it in the armor view in the hangar, so take it with a massive grain of salt. Once had a sherman shoot 3 shells into me frontally with none doing any damage while I was trying to hit his weak points. Happened again somewhat recently too, so even after changing how penetration values are calculated it might hold true. I'd also say the speed and mobility of the Pz3's is a plus point. Max speed of about 30 Mph, with averages in the mid 20's across rough terrain is nice. They turn quite responsively, too.

[@OGUrez1997]

T-34 works great in setup with Pz.Bfw IV, churchill III and KV-1B - basically easiest silver grinder in game (but i guess it's rank III spoilers)

[@ZERORPG7]

one hour like one minute better than watching movie

[@bustedparts]

Great breakdown! I am currently working on the German line and this will help out tons!

[@corygibson2678]

who remembers the tank CBT days were the pzIII(MBT)'s add on armor was coded to auto deflect shells and could see reserve tanks? A short but sweet rein of terror matched only by the soviet self-propelled back hole, the t-50.

[@pennsylvaniafellow4409]

Nice, another video from my favorite warthunder KZbinr

[@FlensostensVrede]

Really really really good video! I LOVE this series. Kudos to you!

[@timmy3822]

Also, thanks for the heads up on the Etsy link... I had no idea you had a store just picked up that lovely Javelin poster :).

[@LordDarthHarry]

Just a little thing about your aircraft and lineup suggestions in these videos. You always go with 3 tanks 1 SPAA and 1 Plane. I find that another viable pattern is 2 tanks 1 SPAA 1 Fighter and 1 Bomber/Attacker/Helicopter. This is in a way more SP cost efficient as picking a fighter does not increase the spawn cost of a bomber/attacker and vice versa. Not saying that its always THE BEST way to do it but it would be beneficial to discuss a viable fighter or 2 for lineups on these tiers even if they aren't the optimal CAS options, especially that sometimes the sky needs clearing before you can do CAS. For example in this spread a 109 could be useful as an option. A center-line 250kg bomb is relatively reliable and F2 in particular has the 15mm MG151 which can be used for top attacks against light and medium tanks. On 4.0 the F4 is quite handy as the 20mm is good against planes and if you don't have quite enough to spawn with a bomb you can take 15mm gunpods for free in a pinch and still do some work. Of course, ever since they revamped the spawn costs an all Tank/SPAA lineup is also viable

[@wizord2651]

I definitely was paying attention during the entire video. I was NOT skilling woodcutting in runescape.

[@ChairThrowingTime]

I think the Panzer IV F1 was a very versatile tank as mobile cover. 8/10 games, the enemy were pushed out because they couldn’t aim through the smoke screen in front of them. But logistically, it’s an inherently inferior tank to the F2 variant. I just have fond memories for it. But the heavily under utilized smoke shots make a great shield to deny snipers and long distance fighters.

[@spades7227]

I once had a 150mm SiG bounce of the Pumas tire cap

[@amg_lennart2924]

Btw. RUSSIA has a Rangefinder at 3.3 or something on the 29K thing wich is similar to the Flak

[@julianmorrisco]

No need to apologise. Fantastic as usual.

[@albazar]

excellent video.it was nice to sit and relax with a cuppa and watch it, very entertaining indeed. cheers.

[@sinviper4248]

Another fantastic video! Thank you very much Oxy :)

[@matthieuzglurg6015]

just a little reminder : Stug III F is 3.7 in RB and has no sense in that tech tree. However, don't forget that the Pz IV F2 is 3.7 in AB, so and you can build a lineup at that BR with those two (alongside the Wirblewind)

[@NuggetMaster-zz9ng]

You might want to do a video on most of these tanks again due to the new volumetric rounds.

[@gre3nishsinx0Rgold4]

I would love to see an American tank tree next.. always awesome and well put together videos. Keep up the awesome work.

[@Hernypov]

Usando el pz 4 f2 a medias y largas distancias con los binoculares y teniendo altura, es una joya

[@weithiamneo1442]

@53min You are playing mind games with the ZIS-2 when your Panzer Waffle ran out of rockets

[@szymongorczynski7621]

Could you make a guide on flying aircraft in Tank RB? I just can't do it very well, especially aiming bombs.

[@villepore7013]

You just have to learn how the bombs behave trought trial and error. There is no other way. Every tank rb pilot goes trought it. Practise it in custom battles against bots and in time you will learn it. Before that, be patience, my friend.

[@Snowaxe3D]

After Volumetric update, Panzer 3s, are nothing but Mini Tigers, Angle it and it will bounce the first shot, and Its anti tank gun will take out the enemy's gunner,

[@fulturk4306]

23:50 the Pz.4 got a br reduction, I believe it sits at 2.0 now but rank two and I’ve been using and I love it, I combined it with the sqeezy and that premium autocannon tank..and it’s very good. I also brough a He-112 the one with two cannons and it’s very nice.

[@leftovermakeover2597]

Thanks so much for those awesome guides! Really, really good stuff!

[@MyDarkMe]

Agree on the most things. The Pz2H is a absolute must have imo. I absolutely love it and have it in my line up to 6.7. The only thing the Puma does better, is having some depression. Which is the only flaw it has. The Pz4F1 has some use, as in the short 75mm heat is the best thing to counter the heavy french armour.

[@engage1942]

8:35 that shadow tho 🤭