War Thunder: Ground Update - More Passed to Developers in January 2025

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

Good old Benelux stuff turning up again

[@akshaffy8839]

cokerill back but will it be forget for 2025 rthen maybe accpted in 2026 maybe

[@imbad385]

I know this is off topic but it seems like the steam negative reviews are going to pop off soon after gaijin’s bad decisions yesterday. We hit triple the average today and lowered the recent rating from very positive to mixed

[@AadityaReddy-x5l]

I hope that it gets added to Germany. It makes no sense to be in BeNeLux, since Germany has the Boxer MGS already and the vehicle is also on a German chassis. As a German main, I want some unique tech since at this point there is no point in playing German top tier, or mid tier for that point. Tiger 1 AND Tiger 2 are in different TT's. Panther is in a different TT too. Leopard 1 and all Leo 2 variants aside from prototype variants (PT to T matching) are in other TT's. Our top tier air is a copy paste of Russia and slight modifications to US and GB vehicles.

[@georgivanev7466]

Passed to developers means literally nothing. There are vehicles that have been passed like 7 years ago and never made it to the game.

[@oz314]

I've rewatched some of the old suggestion videos you made and it baffles me how some of the vehicles mentioned from the past 4 years havent been added

[@erjarmo9573]

so france could have gotten an actual "unique" tank instead of copy paste trash :(

[@gunsblazing4509]

Well of course, Gaijin loves to choose copy paste stuff that has the most obvious unique alternatives.

[@erjarmo9573]

@@gunsblazing4509 its very sad and if they actually add unique stuff it will be in an one time event or premium

[@gunsblazing4509]

@erjarmo9573 To be fair then, you can't get mad at them for adding a copy paste in the battle pass if you don't want the unique alternative to also be a one-time event. Personally, I don't mind unique vehicles in events, but then again I also have the time to grind a majority of them and money available to fill in the gaps, so my opinion may be different than some.

[@erjarmo9573]

@@gunsblazing4509 ONE TIME events are horrible in my opinnion i personally would like to play fun stuff like the sturmtiger and theres some usefull tanks as one time events or premiums like sweden not having a heavy tank i understand the kungstiger being an event vehicle but then they dont give sweden an actual heavy tank instead make the kv-1 a premium for no good reason the finnish stug would have been an understandable and an "unique" premium whit its cement armor and logs

[@erjarmo9573]

@@gunsblazing4509 also i wouldnt honestly mind event vehicles being copy paste trash if they added unique vehicles in the tech trees

[@Sayle_24]

what the belgian sub tree really needs is the T13 and T14 tankette jokes aside a ACEC cobra , with it's shiton of available turrets would be cool as hell there's also the SIBMAS , the FN4RM 62F armored car and the BDX

[@JaykeBlayde]

Oh a 25mm cannon on a Pbv box for Sweden? That'll probably be BR 9.3

[@thibaultdesjardins4819]

10.3 if it’s stabilized 😂

[@iboopy.1]

I would love to see a Challenger 1 with the Falcon turret from jordan

[@Anthony-whoop-whoop]

Agreed

[@BugattiONE666]

Passed to Developer: When a kid passes a piece of artwork to their parent, who says "thanks" and then promptly bins it

[@Hosenfuhrer]

8:21 You know what that gap between the turret and the hull reminds me of? T-34-85, and it's a vertical flat (though round) plate. An obvious weak spot. Then again, it's a Leopard 1A5 hull, which is a weak spot by itself.

[@ottaviobasques]

There are many less known tanks out there I'd love to see in game. For example, the 1970s modernized Stuarts of Brazil with 90mm guns, the X1 series.

[@DenverFannin]

Still don't understand why the Leclerc don't have the f2 apfsds.

[@xvenomx7788]

Really hoping for the Eitan APC for Israel to fill that missing light tank gap

[@razegusty6810]

It was passed to the devs 2 months ago

[@rojevil2829]

we first need an spaa.

[@LeopardTeam123]

Just add the python 3 spaa first

[@richardcreasey9319]

Imagine having the ability to modernize and improve the T-72, and only settling on the firepower and not the engine, or the transmission, or the gun depression, or the turret-ejection button, or literally anything else that's wrong with it. And I understand: if it aint broke, don't fix it, but come on. Surely you could do more to improve on the T-72's 52 year-old design?

[@9Achaemenid]

It's been lots of empty promises 🙂

[@hitomaru12]

I would love a 105mm M47 in the French tree. The M47 is just a solid platform.

[@theonlyllen]

man ive been waiting for the m47 to be implemented to the french tree, the pattons are just nice looking tanks and would like to have a chance to play them without having to grind the entire us line. Ive played the m48 in the chinese line and what a beaut. Hope these tanks gets implemented

[@Jinkuzu]

Add STRV 2000 for Sweden.

[@Kawaii_Boy3]

Its was not even in metal, just paper and mock-up

[@gunsblazing4509]

@@Kawaii_Boy3 It's still a tangible vehicle, not just some theoretical paper one. I know I'd be down for it.

[@Jinkuzu]

@@Kawaii_Boy3 So? Hasnt stopped gajin before and would be nice then sweden being leos only at top yier

[@Arbeam_wt]

"Only leos" lmfao did you forget the cv90120 and cv90mkiv​

[@Jinkuzu]

@@Arbeam_wt Yeah cause I am gona run the MKIV at 12.0 no. it's staying on the 10.7 line up. Also I got 4 leos 1 T80 and one CV90120. yeah its majority Leos dosent help we also got the 2a4s

[@wastelander89]

I hope America adds the m10 booker light tank

[@Arbeam_wt]

It was JUST introduced it's not getting added

[@dawson9652]

Lol that 105 M47 would have been better than the M46 we got in this new battlepass

[@StealthySpace7]

Posting this again for some more feedback from players: Gaijin can solve the AA/CAS issue with the following implementation Basically, because some countries are running out of anti-aircraft to add as they shifted doctrine to fighters as air defense over traditional ground based surface to air missiles, it will become more and more necessary to have fighters in the air specifically outfitted to deal with enemy CAS. By reducing the spawn point cost of a fighter to that of a medium or maybe heavy tank for aircraft with pure air to air loadouts, no rockets, no bombs, not even ground belts in their guns, you incentivize many things First, more fighter support to help take the load off the poor dudes getting shrecked in the ADATS or similar SAM. Basically, unless you have the 12NM range of the Pantsir, jets that spawn 10NM from the battlefield can rifle every single missile off and RTB before they ever hit the 6NM max range of the ADATS (who is radar is not sophisticated enough to even detect those weapons for targeting) Second, he incentivize people playing AA. Even though the whole point of bringing fighters in is because AA is insufficient, an increase in air presence would still lead to more potential rewards (sidenote, the rewards for shooting down aircraft should be increased, and a reward should be given for shooting down munitions such as bombs and missiles which protects teammates) Third, you are also reducing the number of CAS platforms as unlike area realistic battles, ground realistic battles do not allow players to change loadouts after they have initially spawned an aircraft. So devoting your F-15E or F-16C to air to air completely removes it from being able to be used with bombs and rockets later.

[@Wangle-e5v]

People have been saying this for years. Everyone cries when they see "planes should cost less spawn points" An F15E with 8 amraams should cost the same as a pantsir to spawn, since that is how America handles its anti-air irl. Either way, there are some shorad systems America could get. Slammram-er for example. Is a humvee with amraam missiles that have extended range to 20km. It's not a pantsir, but it would be better than the adats.

[@StealthySpace7]

@ it still suffers from the issue the ADATS suffers from: it would struggle to counter munitions. An Su-34 can have AGM's off the rails in under 5 seconds and dive down to avoid SAMs. Without a jet to chase it, it has free kills still. The Pantsir's radar detects and can track bombs and missiles which makes it easy to shoot them down and defend your team

[@AjEdw]

Great, but what about low tier?

[@StealthySpace7]

@ CAS isn't as big of an issue at low tier. I did some math and took notes on average CAS kills in a few dozen battles and high tier CAS is responsible for sometimes more than half of the total kills for a team But the number is almost always a minimum of 10 kills

[@ssgllc7007]

@@StealthySpace7 it sounds like a good idea, but I do agree with the other guy, That if you are playing a nation that deals with enemy aircraft with friendly aircraft IRL, then it should get the spawn points of an SPAA (given that it strictly has air to air loadout). The only nation that I think should be excluded from this… Is obviously Russia. It still feels like trying to work around the problem instead of addressing it though… and the problem is the pansir. If it wasn’t obliterating NATO aircraft in general, and had a reasonable range (and radar) similar to every other SPAA, Then NATO planes could focus on countering cas at a distance from the battlefield, And anyone wanting to ground pound would still have to focus SPAA first, or spawn a fighter to take care of the counter CAS-ers. Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the Maps in ground rb A 40 km x 40 km square…. With a 36 km circle dead smack in the middle of that square that is a Killzone for the pansir. Seems ridiculous.

[@InternetLaser]

two completely wasted "passed to devs" for France in a row.

[@stijnjanssens571]

man I hope we see the leo 1 cockerlill... they did the BeNeLux ground tree dirty man..

[@frogdog5604]

Just play italy for a 105 M47. its the best in the game for M47's

[@Unreasonable_Gaming]

When abrams l55?

[@MaxiFloof]

this might sound stupid, is the T72 not just a TURMS????

[@TheEuropeanCanadian]

no

[@G_Man_2077]

The T-72AV TURMS-T is a variant of the T-72

[@MaxiFloof]

@G_Man_2077 haha I know that, I meant it seems like the one in the video seems like it's just a copy and paste turms with kontact 5

[@MaxiFloof]

In terms of gameplay I'm talking about

[@Arbeam_wt]

​@@MaxiFloof with your logic every t72 is a turms with different armor

[@FRFFW]

Oh hell yeah

[@vethenoir]

still no t-72m1m in sight 💔💔

[@IsaacRennie]

Why cant the british get the belgian leopard :(

[@Anthony-whoop-whoop]

Because there's no reason for them too

[@MrGrim2u1987]

Yes, there is, because they always get shat on . Mosquito is dogshit. 5 .3. The weakest ww2 lineup in the game. AA for Britain is aub par. Their top tiers do not have the actual real-life armour. The list goes on. Naval, they are weaker the most.

[@Arbeam_wt]

I like how the belgian leopard has nothing to do with any of the reasons you mentioned ​

[@Arbeam_wt]

​also British aa being subpar does not call for a leopard to be added to britain you dunce

[@IsaacRennie]

​@@Arbeam_wt The british and Belgians have been historical allies for over 100 years more so than the french

[@SamEichers]

Are you color blind? Or do you just like the different colors for enemy's and teammates?

[@Iden_in_the_Rain]

Certain colorblind settings are better in terms of contrast, and for some games it provides an outright advantage (in Battlefront II, the due- type of colorblind settings let you see outlines of traps in an otherwise near pitch black forest)

[@BewBuh]

Pass the Leclerc XLR to the devs, It's an up armourd Leclerc with a trophy APS on it. Every tank that has been passed so far have been been super lame and boring af low tier turds of tanks.

[@SupremoDrafter]

You sure it got trophy ?

[@BewBuh]

@@SupremoDrafter From everything I've read on it, from what I read about it it had a hard kill APS. Maybe not the trophy exactly but still. It would be better than all these lame ass low tier slop being added

[@unepersonne3320]

@@BewBuh the hard kill aps is still under testing and its not trophy but a french made one

[@TheAgileEagle.]

Full of garbage or copy paste vehicles nothing fun or new

[@gunsblazing4509]

Maybe you're just not into late mid tier and modern stuff, but these are all quite unique compared to what we have been getting lately.

[@geldoncupi1]

They never give Germany even its own tanks, not to think treatments like France , Sweden, Italy, Britain, China. These nations always had some crappy tank production, but they ended having the best other nations tanks, German , American, Russian. Now because of this shit, they are better than original nation tank production itself. Ridiculous

[@Anthony-whoop-whoop]

Ur essentially complaining about Germany not being good enough, then comparing it to France, Italy, and Britain... I take it you haven't played any of the minor nations in the game. Or you just have a massive skill issue.

[@akaira700]

Germany tanks are completely fine what's bs is every nation in the game except Great Britain, Sweden and Germany and obviously Russia don't even get a f16 (Russia don't need a sub tree ) but France get two even tho it doesn't even need a f16 at all if we're gonna talk about unfair

[@moery2435]

@@akaira700 What? That doesn't matter that much, look at Italy and China instead...