War veteran MPs challenge Bloody Sunday prosecution cases in Commons

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@ranoch3696
@ranoch3696 4 жыл бұрын
There is no statute of limitations on murder of civilians
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 3 жыл бұрын
To Tories and Ulster Unionists don't see Irish Roman Catholics as innocent
@barneyrubbles2485
@barneyrubbles2485 2 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE WRITE IN WHAT YOU SAID, I LIVED THERE WHEN IT ALL HAPPENED. THATS WHY I CALLED THATCHER HITLERS DAUGHTER SHE THOUGHT SHE COULD DO WHAT EVER SHE LIKED WRONG.
@jenny5017
@jenny5017 Жыл бұрын
@@RobertK1993 they don’t see us a people never mind innocent
@rhys2091
@rhys2091 Жыл бұрын
@@jenny5017yes I would agree, not animals tho, a lesser people yes, i grew up in the junior orange order, there they are taught the words of Martin Luther, the sovereignty of the Protestant bible, yet when I look through history at the Protestant bible enacted in Ireland I see no thing but massacres, at the same time I can feel for those who we’re settlers here, peasants paid to serve a political cause, who were also met with massacres and sectarian hate, what a justice the GFA has been, an agreement that many on both sides wish to shred
@rhys2091
@rhys2091 Жыл бұрын
@@jenny5017pretty despicable, those at the top of the orange order play blind to the atrocities there members commited, I do not say this out of harm, but many of the members were not involved in sectarian violence, were godly men, who through there teachings thought they were better than others, I am afraid, the orange order from its inception was deeply corrupted from its charter, with many in rural areas disbelieving what the institute had become
@eoghand9656
@eoghand9656 4 жыл бұрын
If they apparently haven’t done anything wrong why are they so against it?
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 3 жыл бұрын
Because they know thier soliders where gulity.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 10 ай бұрын
Duty in challenging circumstances
@fionamurphy352
@fionamurphy352 4 жыл бұрын
13 civilians died they were murdered those responsible deserve to be prosecuted
@simotheirishwolf9560
@simotheirishwolf9560 4 жыл бұрын
The should be tried in the Hague not some sympathetic British Court that wont given them the sentence they deserve
@duckduck168
@duckduck168 3 жыл бұрын
And the Irish killed no civilians? War is hell, end of story.
@72mossy
@72mossy 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the innocent 11 civilians in Ballymurphy as well.
@jeffreyharris3887
@jeffreyharris3887 2 ай бұрын
It was a civil rights march .The result of the incident was young men joining the IRA and 26 years of violence ​@@duckduck168
@davesunderland1026
@davesunderland1026 3 жыл бұрын
Only the guilty are fearful of the truth
@imapotato8010
@imapotato8010 5 жыл бұрын
The law is the law and no one is above it.
@davidi9042
@davidi9042 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently the IRA terrorists are when they aren’t in prison
@pauliewalnuts100
@pauliewalnuts100 Жыл бұрын
When has Brittish law ever been just in Ireland?
@alistairmacarthur5591
@alistairmacarthur5591 4 жыл бұрын
You’ll never beat us 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
@kondor2645
@kondor2645 3 жыл бұрын
And you will never beat us 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@Charlie-ez7yu
@Charlie-ez7yu 3 жыл бұрын
@@kondor2645 imagine defending murderers
@RobertK1993
@RobertK1993 3 жыл бұрын
@@Charlie-ez7yu Ulster Loyalists are hypocrites
@billlyspencer3118
@billlyspencer3118 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Speaker, I am deeply patriotic. I never want to believe anything bad about our country. I never want to call into question the behaviour of our soldiers and our army, who I believe to be the finest in the world. And I have seen for myself the very difficult and dangerous circumstances in which we ask our soldiers to serve. But the conclusions of this report are absolutely clear. There is no doubt, there is nothing equivocal, there are no ambiguities. What happened on Bloody Sunday was both unjustified and unjustifiable. It was wrong. David Cameron PM
@tranquillcash1
@tranquillcash1 4 жыл бұрын
we and all the people of northern Ireland deserve an apology we have been hurt for hundreds of years we need an apology
@72mossy
@72mossy 4 жыл бұрын
British troops like to open fire on Irish people. Being doing it for Centuries. We had two Bloody Sundays in Ireland 1920 and 1972.
@doohani
@doohani Жыл бұрын
It sounds like you are apologetic for your soldier friends. Let NOTHING let away from the fact that they murdered!
@sourcescience
@sourcescience 3 жыл бұрын
Soldier F committed murder and perjury and he ought to serve the appropriate sentence in prison.
@gordonward4184
@gordonward4184 3 жыл бұрын
No wonder ireland fights bk with these knobs in control
@marlianmansion7982
@marlianmansion7982 3 жыл бұрын
The right honerable gentleman does forget that when national security interests collide with moral integrity, We change the Law
@ldunit1903
@ldunit1903 3 жыл бұрын
One should never indulge in ‘but what’s happening to them’ politics in any walk of life. You are taught that whenever a child and told but look at yourself. ‘ did you do wrong?’ We know the British did wrong in Derry. We now know they did wrong in Ballymurphy. Innocent civilians will killed and the truth buried and in fact lies were concocted. This is irrefutable and par for the norm for the British at the time. You claim Ira are terrorists. You are the best of the best and a legitimate army so it is right you be held to account. You shouldn’t act like petty kids complaining about others as an excuse when your conduct falls below the norm. 1000s of Ira men and women went to jail and sometimes wrongly, so why should the British soldiers be exempt. They came in to protect Catholics but quickly turned into a force to suppress Catholics. They never protected people in Catholic neighbourhoods and facilitated the removal of all Catholic’s from predominantly Protestant workplaces. The letters have been handed out, they were negotiated and if you are not happy removed your government. That’s democracy. But to state that despite appalling conduct soldiers should be untouchable is shocking. Remember also The Birmingham Six, Guildford 4, Lee Clegg, Aidan MacAnespie. Also cover ups. We aren’t morons or daft. Our young ones now have legal, medical and aeronautical degrees to name a few. We can recognise what went on and to tell us that it is was ok is trying to put us through supression again albeit mental suppression
@ernestrogen4639
@ernestrogen4639 Жыл бұрын
So you make it look like the IRA are not murderers ask the people of Cluady blown to bits by the IRA bombs. ask the famolies of those brunt to death by IRA fire bombs 100s of other examples.
@maltesetony9030
@maltesetony9030 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dear. 800 years of colonialism has taken its toll, hasn't it?
@dhockedy1273
@dhockedy1273 Жыл бұрын
The Irony of them calling others terrorist
@1976chrisc
@1976chrisc 2 жыл бұрын
It's Derry
@terrorgaming459
@terrorgaming459 4 жыл бұрын
"I completed in several years in northern Ireland" how is this man aloud to work free
@isensiblehumanist993
@isensiblehumanist993 5 жыл бұрын
“Crime is crime is crime”-Margaret Thatcher
@holmenkollen10
@holmenkollen10 4 жыл бұрын
"Idiot is idiot is idiot"- Me
@holmenkollen10
@holmenkollen10 4 жыл бұрын
@DML1888 How could any right minded person take seriously a person who insults those whom every day defend your liberty, no "murders" have been proven but hundreds of atrocities committed by the terrorist cowards of the PIRA and who are known to the authorities are not pursued. If you thing that is a fair way to proceed then that tells me all I need to know about you!
@derps8690
@derps8690 3 жыл бұрын
@@holmenkollen10 tfw the majority of the civilian deaths in northern ireland during the troubles were killed by the loyalist militias who were backed by the british government... yikes bro
@olliegrigg6752
@olliegrigg6752 3 жыл бұрын
@@derps8690 correct, and also the British army were sent into ulster to protect the catholics, not to stop the ira
@irelandscall193
@irelandscall193 5 жыл бұрын
Yellow card lmfao. Killed civies and say they followed the rules.
@pattate9636
@pattate9636 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's a disgrace that these politicians are standing in the way of truth
@gordonward4184
@gordonward4184 3 жыл бұрын
These court cases should not be in British courts the should be tried in the Hague where the rest of the war criminals are tried
@FHIPrincePeter
@FHIPrincePeter 5 жыл бұрын
No Labour ex Service Men or Women ?
@gideonhorwitz9434
@gideonhorwitz9434 4 жыл бұрын
Labor hates Britain so why would it’s members fight and die for it
@leewf79
@leewf79 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Francois a war veteran??! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Territorial Army Mark??
@ernestrogen4639
@ernestrogen4639 Жыл бұрын
The first shots were fired by Martin the IRA leader in the city. Lord Saville did not get the full details of the day as Martin refused to give evidence. The marchers attacked the army. This is the truth blame those who planned the illegal protest on that day not the British army.
@obiwansherlockclousseau5107
@obiwansherlockclousseau5107 Жыл бұрын
Illegal according to who? By what right did the government which the Catholics of the Six Counties were not allowed to participate in give orders to them?
@teamblitz1990
@teamblitz1990 Жыл бұрын
Martin McGuiness did not fire a shot or did the IRA it was the British army who fired first . Soldier F is guilty a British soldier who pulled the trigger and killed the innocent.
@grahamwatts8836
@grahamwatts8836 4 жыл бұрын
If you put the soldiers on trial you need to put the terrorists on trial too, as if you will be able to gain a conviction on them either ie in a court of law with rules of evidence and beyond a reasonable doubt provisions, (do not make the lawyers rich) how about offering more compensation for the people effected, wounded, killed by the terrible events ie Blooding Sunday, bombings on Black Friday.
@orancampbell528
@orancampbell528 4 жыл бұрын
Only 3 soldiers ever convicted for crimes in Northern Ireland, more than 1000 IRA and 500+ Loyalists convicted, I agree with you but it’s a disgrace the Army got away with murder when they were just as bad
@grahamwatts8836
@grahamwatts8836 4 жыл бұрын
@@orancampbell528 Something is very wrong when that can occur ie law and order really broke down poor Irish people
@cfc1523
@cfc1523 3 жыл бұрын
Ha the protesters at Bloody Sunday were protesting laws that allowed Northern Irishman to be imprisoned WITHOUT A TRIAL! A clear and obvious infringement of basic civil rights. Do not forgot that the story of British oppression of Irish peoples goes back hundreds of years before the events on Bloody Sunday. For example, the potato famine, which killed around a MILLION Irish civilians. You might say that a potato blight is no fault of the British government, however the British where exporting huge amounts of grain from Ireland whilst innocent women and children were dying in hovels. It is much more complicated than one massacre and one investigation, it is a lengthy history of oppression.
@roonerz7530
@roonerz7530 2 жыл бұрын
You invaded our country not the other way around
@jucaxpto4173
@jucaxpto4173 17 күн бұрын
Shame on Them !!!
@julien616
@julien616 6 ай бұрын
Some nerves !
@alanthomas2235
@alanthomas2235 4 жыл бұрын
This case will never come to trial god save the queen
@ProfileP246
@ProfileP246 3 жыл бұрын
Aye aye!
@Damon-p9u
@Damon-p9u 10 ай бұрын
@@ProfileP246 To hell with your queen!
@kenmackenzie9385
@kenmackenzie9385 5 жыл бұрын
Just like Brexit a bloody big betrayal and when did you last see a politician in court for doing their job. Wtf is wrong with these people. Dying for your country seems a better outcome than survival in this day and age. Who'd be a service person in 2019, with stuff like this potentially hanging over you.
@LJ-wm1bl
@LJ-wm1bl 4 жыл бұрын
Brave Soldiers
@Charlie-ez7yu
@Charlie-ez7yu 3 жыл бұрын
They were murderers
@Charlie-ez7yu
@Charlie-ez7yu 3 жыл бұрын
Not soldiers
@Birticus2
@Birticus2 3 жыл бұрын
Cowardly murderers
@ProfileP246
@ProfileP246 3 жыл бұрын
@@Charlie-ez7yu He's not talking about the IRA
@Stantheman848
@Stantheman848 3 жыл бұрын
So brave.... shooting children in cold blood
@matthewredman7814
@matthewredman7814 3 жыл бұрын
This was half a century ago let's move on
@danielarcand8772
@danielarcand8772 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t tell if you’re serious or not
@matthewredman7814
@matthewredman7814 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielarcand8772 Pretty serious.
@purehyper164
@purehyper164 2 жыл бұрын
we'll move on when justice is served for the families of the people killed that day
@joshsutcliffe8647
@joshsutcliffe8647 4 жыл бұрын
brtish soldiers serve and protect the country from ira terrorist
@High_rise12
@High_rise12 4 жыл бұрын
Killing innocent people isn't protecting people.
@derps8690
@derps8690 3 жыл бұрын
@notimportant is that why the *BRITISH* enquiry exonerated them?
@derps8690
@derps8690 3 жыл бұрын
@notimportant my goodness, I'm thick... you were calling the brits the terrorists, I thought you were calling the victims ira members... my apologies lad
@cfc1523
@cfc1523 3 жыл бұрын
Did you ever consider that the British ought to be in Britain and not in Ireland. All the IRA really wanted was for the Irish to rule Ireland and not the British.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 10 ай бұрын
Yes law is law but not many placed in a war like our peacekeeping troops. SIMPLE ANSWER..ALL THOSE RELEASED RETURN TO JAIL...until these trials are over
@jamienorris5638
@jamienorris5638 4 жыл бұрын
God bless every British and Unionist Soldier. No Surrender
@High_rise12
@High_rise12 4 жыл бұрын
What about the ones that killed innocent people?
@Mr.Plankton.
@Mr.Plankton. 4 жыл бұрын
@@High_rise12 wasn’t innocent you muppet you think they was shot for no reason and the perpetrators just thought they’d get away with it, the statements claiming the Irish had no weapons came from Irish citizens😂🤣 you all just jump on the bandwagon bcos your dead terrorist supporting friends were murdered
@derps8690
@derps8690 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Plankton. tfw it was a british inquiry that received evidence from the british army that determined that it was an unjust attack... yikes my guy.
@ProfileP246
@ProfileP246 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr.Plankton. Finally someone with a bit of sense!
@Stantheman848
@Stantheman848 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfileP246 sicko ...anyone who defends child killers needs to be investigated.
@Seanpaul22
@Seanpaul22 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha keep crying guys hahahahahaha all these ex solider can keep crying hahahahahahaha
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