The Real Truth About General Milley's "Treasonous Act"

[@WardCarroll]

NOTE: This subject isn't politics; it's military ethics, something I taught at the Naval Academy for four years. This situation is a lesson for all active duty officers, especially senior ones, and dealing with it is well within the mission of this channel. Also, please watch the entire episode before commenting.

[@jasonlarsen3515]

Sure bro. If you want to pretend to be non political that’s cool I guess. It however is clear to anyone honest regardless of their political position knows you’re dishonest in your position of non political.

[@tobyw9573]

Milley mistook Trump's brinksmanship for insanity, I guess he didn't get it. If Milley thought resignation was proper, then it was right, but air his disagreements beforehand.

[@timbroderick4454]

Whatever brings views good or bad is good for your page, right?

[@whosiewunkle1993]

@@tobyw9573 HA, HA, Ha! Is brinksmanship like "the weave"? Our enemies know all about Trumps "brinksmanship" and will use it to great effect. Donald saying repeatedly that "I am the GOAT" does not make him the greatest of all time. It simply telegraphs the fact that a huge ego is due to reoccupy the White House and is currently open to be stroked.

[@Awesomes007]

@@tobyw9573Trump is incompetent and his “brinksmanship” is blunt bullying.

[@paaat001]

As a former enlisted man, if confronted with some of the same allegations as Milley, I assure you there would be no debate of the consequences. They would be harsh and not favorable to me.

[@phillipdavidhaskett7513]

In what universe would an enlisted man have the phone number of the commander of the PLA? And it would be easy to convene a general court marshal panel from your own platoon.

[@Phoenix-vg8li]

😂

[@paaat001]

@@phillipdavidhaskett7513 It would be a chargeable offense form me to come in contact with any foreign national from an adversarial country and not report it.

[@andrewiglinski148]

Because you’re unqualified to make such high level decisions. That’s like me being mad that I got pulled over for going 90 in a 25 just because I’m a security guard and not a cop.

[@mitch7110]

@@andrewiglinski148 It's unlawful for cops to speed as well in most cases

[@KennethNoel-n2f]

As a retired Navy Captain I appreciate your analysis of the affair of Gen. Milley. I concur that he should have immediately submitted his resignation rather than sitting on it. Whether he should have called the Chinese Chief of Staff: I think than should not have been done. It would be better to have kicked that decision up to the president. I think Gen Milley is guilty of assuming authority not riightly his.

[@msimon6808]

"assuming authority not riightly his" You are too kind.

[@randydanger7992]

That's called treason.

[@MDformernavalperson]

@@randydanger7992 Not so; read the Constitution.

[@joebronxer1204]

@@MDformernavalperson Yeah it is. Read the constitution.

[@dsicario]

And you're keeping in mind the call on January 8th, when the country was trying to recover from the storming of the Capitol? Given the circumstances, it was an acceptable judgement call.

[@TropicalCoder]

You missed the part where Milley wanted to understand "white rage".

[@LRRPFco52]

He was my BC in Korea with 1-506th Infantry. The very first picture is from his time there. He was a careerist, total night and day contrast from the previous BC, LTC Fuller, who was the best BC I ever had hands-down. Col Fuller was a Grenada Ranger with 2-75, had the Grenada-era Scroll, lead by example. Milley always had his finger freshly-licked, testing the air. We could do no wrong up there on the DMZ, because nobody went up there to mess with us. He still was very cautious about his decisions, always calculating and scheming. He had a great early career up through his time in Group, then turned into a careerist politician.

[@Clarkecars]

And BLM burned the church.

[@AreaCode757]

not the Milley I knew or worked with but ok..@ Group I found him to be thoughtful but what your calling career I found to be a skill in covering his people

[@Megatron-wz2pn]

What is that? I see this occasionally online but I don’t understand it. No one has ever explained what it is.

[@VincentNajger1]

@@LRRPFco52 He is the worst kind of military careerist. I'm kinda shocked at Carrol's apologism for that asshole, traitor and self serving prick of a man. I'm also shocked at his TDS. I've been subbed for ages, but Carroll has outed his true colors, so unsubbing because of his shocking inability read the room.

[@Collie1228]

I was a Navy E-5 who served in Vietnam. If I were to discuss anything, and I mean anything, with a Chinese National when on active duty I would have been immediately arrested, tried and sentenced to many years in Federal prison. Milley was lucky.

[@barbmol5664]

The rules are different for top dogs.

[@southtexasprepper1837]

I fully agree with you on this point. Btw, Your KZbin Channel Screen Name is the same as my last name except missing one letter at the end. Amazing. "Subscribed" To Your Channel.

[@jefsel881]

How about hiding stolen classified documents and having secret meets with Putin?

[@TheSwegBucket]

Easing of relations with China should be taken into account here. It's obvious we have much more to gain from talking now than we did back then.

[@JackSquat54]

@@TheSwegBucket Milley did not ease any relations with China. China recognized Milley as the turncoat O'Bomba loyalist he was. Milley was nothing more than a Schizophrenic paranoid spy.

[@manuellabors1265]

Bear in mind that the only reason that we know that Milley phoned his counter part in China, is that he told Robert Woodward, a reporter. What kind of judgement does that reveal.

[@ScrappyXFL]

"is that he told Robert Woodward, a reporter." Cya willie-milley

[@robertchapman6822]

@@manuellabors1265 keep spitballing you’re doing great

[@scottroper9515]

It reveals a political General trying to illegally subvert his Commander and chief by illegally inserting himself into the chain of command.

[@malusignatius]

It means he believes in accountability and transparency, even for himself. Also that he (like many of his predecessors in the Cold War) understood the value of keeping lines of commination open between the US and it's rivals.

[@logman3707]

Back channels between high ranking generals of world powers have been a staple since the cold war, and for the better. Sometimes "we are not going to attack you," is a very important message to get to your counterpart.

[@TheRdwyer]

We have 44 4 star Generals/Admirals. 33 more than WWII when we have 12 million in uniform.

[@danielb7253]

wow...absured....political army now

[@timfronimos459]

WW2 14 million serving 100 generals and admirals 2024 1.4 milion serving 100+ generals and admirals Nuff said

[@Akubra123]

🤣🤣🤣that might be the reason you lost everything you started since WWII, too many chiefs, not enough indians

[@davidjennings4589]

We are overcrewed with brass hats.

[@elisolomon8741]

Too many generals with too few soldiers is a recipe for disaster long before the White House gets involved. I assume that some if not all in this chat are serving or Vets. I am not, to my regret. But I wholeheartedly thank you all for your service. Respect from Australia.

[@GunnersRange]

Respectfully, Sir, when it's all said and done, General Milley still called the his Chinese counterpart and told him "I'll give you a heads-up, if anything is going to happen." Does anyone seriously believe his Chinese counterpart would do the same for us?? At what point does it become treason? As a retired CWO4, if I had done this, they would have dropped the cell key into the Marianas Trench! Is it OK to do this if you have stars on your shoulders, but not the regular riff-raff like me? Semper Fidelis! CWO4 USMCR [Ret] 17 Feb 1969 - 1 Aug 2004

[@johnloy9760]

Marines have better sense!

[@linneys8246]

Thank you for your service and God Bless 😊😊

[@June-tb4vi]

Thank you for your service and sacrifice for our country 🇺🇸🇺🇸 Milley is a traitor... Will always be one! Anyone who calls the enemy of our country to warn them of a incoming attack needs to be court marshalled for it!!

[@ut000bs]

I just realized and am sorry to say that even after 12 years in the Navy (AT1(AW)) I never had the chance to have the honor of saluting a Marine warrant.

[@wynoi_yt]

Don't Generals and Commanders in Chief call each other? That's why a 'red phone' hotline was used in the 1st place. Just a month ago Russia called USA to warn that they launched an ICBM, and avoid any misunderstanding that could cause human extinction.

[@ckreitlein]

I am 28-year retired senior naval officer. I have briefed CNO, SECDEF, and was a naval attaché in Europe . Milley needs a courts martial to either convict him or clear his name. If he were half the man he thinks he is he would reject the pardon and demand a courts martial.

[@stormcop55]

I was in the JAGC of the Navy. The President most certainly could recall him and he could be charged under the UCMJ.

[@Present-Tense]

We have all seen ample evidence that charges do not necessarily result in conviction. What outcome would be likelier?

[@teashea1]

not for treason

[@greggossman492]

@@Present-Tense Not in UCMJ Trial Proceedings. That's a whole different World!

[@stormcop55]

@@Present-Tense that would be the million dollar question!!

[@stormcop55]

@@greggossman492 yes ..... a whole different world entirely!!

[@TobyPitcairn]

Listening to him speak a month ago vs last week tells me all I need to know about what he thinks his future will be. He changed his tune awfully fast after 11/5 just like any politician does when they bet on the wrong horse without the capital to pay the debt. In the coming months we will definitely be seeing more of his name and the names of others for Afghanistan and more.

[@danalexander1960]

and the recently released J6 report where this General ignored an order from the CiC to keep the Capitol safe and use troops but I guess the General thinks he knows best.

[@H1Guard]

Milley "trying not to be political" cracks me up.

[@protorhinocerator142]

I don't have one nice thing to say about him.

[@fgoogleinthea7475]

I had no idea where this video is going - and it went the wrong way.

[@ThatGirl-ku5dq]

@@protorhinocerator142why. Did you serve under him or in the cult? Serious question.

[@ClyDIley]

​@@ThatGirl-ku5dq "in the cult? Serious question." Jesus Christ.... how out of touch do you have to be in order to follow such a maligned comment with "Serious question?" Like, thats a seriously level of pathological narcissism, lady. Milley has self inserted himself into political debates more than all other generals combined, serving and retired. One need only google the topic. What makes your comment all that much worse, is the fact that you accuse the otherside of being a cult, while the very issues Milley is known for being political on, are over his implementation of policy in line with an honest to God cult ideology, that being of Queer Theory and Gender Performativity, which displays all classic characteristics of an honest to God cult ideology. Here's exactly how, and pay close attention to the last point made, bc that point specifically is one Milley's favorite ways he likes getting political..... • The elevation of personal identity to a quasi-sacred status, where challenging an individual's self-identification is treated as a moral offense • Adherents often demand strict adherence to specific terminologies, rejecting even slight deviations as evidence of "transphobia" or "bigotry." • Dismissal of critiques or alternate views as inherently oppressive or invalid without substantive engagement • Clear division between allies and adversaries, with social ostracism imposed on dissenters. • Enforcement of specific language use (e.g., pronouns, neologisms) and retributive measures against non-compliance • Public affirmations of allyship, participation in "awareness" campaigns, and performative declarations of inclusion mirror rituals in cults.

[@Skyblade12]

@@ThatGirl-ku5dqBecause the entire video is an attempt to justify treason. Ward tries to pretend that Milley had a choice between obedience, disobedience with consequences, and resignation. Those would have been honorable routes to take. “Usurping the chain of command to swear fealty to an enemy country” is not one of those choices. Milley wasn’t given an illegal or unjust order that he refused to follow. He swore to serve the enemy, and use his military position to serve the enemy. That is the most basic definition of treason.

[@RodAndrewartha]

Former Australian air force officer here. A remarkable and thought-provoking episode, Ward. Well done, mate. Thanks for what you do with your channel.

[@hldarte]

In all my years of service in the military and the Veterans community I have known and associate with many Flag Officers. I have never thought that a General would directly call an opposing member of a nation without full disclosure to their superiors before (or after). I applaud any man or woman who has become the rank of a Flag Officer, but General Milley has violated his oath of duty (no matter what his personal thoughts were) and should be placed before a board to investigate his actions.

[@ScrappyXFL]

🎯"full disclosure to their superiors before (or after)" is insubordination at the very least, he's not CinC, he doesn't work for the the State Department. That is "aid and comfort", not openly our enemy yet knowingly our enemy. He was in a position to know full well Chyna considers the US to be an enemy. We call it end running, which is by definition insubordination to any direct authority above us. He should be at Ft Lost in the Woods.

[@bogieman101]

@Larry-q4h Does the SECDEF have the authority to approve the actions Milley took with the Chinese?

[@danmoretti8898]

@Larry-q4h Of course not. Neither did Rogan, Andrew Tate, Fuentes, or whatever other source these people get their (mis)information from. It's a firehose of groupthink.

[@gregorylsterkson2684]

You are definitely an advocate for the left. You present a case, not a just one. Disappointed.

[@FxuckSoyboyspiesgoogle]

@@danmoretti8898 Did you ever realize that even MSNBC reported what Miley did as if it was an orange-man-bad act of valor? Anyone with half a brain realizes that calling China before a surprise attack is treason.

[@abbldrs]

He ended up being or acting as a politician something that he said wouldn’t do!

[@BadDadio]

All officers are part politicians

[@skipperclinton1087]

@abbldrs: The "I want to understand white rage" was a DEI political statement. You can't take that out of context! Besides, the retired GO statements on Milley taking calls from Pelosi (political) and the call to the Chinese general were outside his pay grade! He wasn't in Pelosi's chain of command regardless of her standing in Congress. She's only 3rd in line for the acting president after the VP should something happen to the prez, & the Vice prez, in that order!

[@Khronogi]

​@@skipperclinton1087DEI is a good thing. It's to hire competent people who would otherwise be passed over. Do people not understand this?!

[@RoDe]

I'm retired Army, There is NEVER an excuse to privately phone a potential enemy general "in gross insubordination to the acting Commander and Chief" no matter how much one would disagree, and he needs to be held to account! I get tired of political activist judges and military men pretending they stand behind the Constitution, but by their actions, they do not! Reply

[@BadDadio]

@ well said!

[@88azturbo]

And Benedict Arnold had a distinguished military career right up to the point where he... well... didn't.

[@andrewg3238]

From the perspective of the British.......So did Washington.

[@markrogers4983]

@@andrewg3238 I suppose that's true.

[@jamesgunnyreed]

@@andrewg3238 We have not had to worry about what the British thought since the 4th of July 1776

[@Impala-qp9cb]

@@andrewg3238yep. Except the British didn’t elect the monarchy.

[@jimstraba5772]

@@andrewg3238 clever, thought Andy, but we’re Americans so try to follow along or tagalong in your case

[@jimseifert2831]

This is a classic case of the Peter Principle. No doubt Milley was a good soldier, but unfortunately was promoted into a job he was ill prepared for. What would Gen. Milley have done if a staff officer of his had gone to ISIS and said not to worry he would tell them about what the US military was or was not about to do? Seriously Ward, you missed the mark with this one.

[@johnloy9760]

I was thinking The First Normative Principle of Public Administration, adhering to higher authority!

[@andrewiglinski148]

ISIS is a violent terrorist organization, not a global super power with WWIII level consequences.

[@woodstock918]

Miley, like all 4 stars didn’t get there without becoming political. His resignation letter was grandstanding to justify his actions and to distance himself from a superior whom he feared would make a decision that would have caused him discomfort. He should have complied, refused or resigned. He straddled the line by secretly writing a “resigned in protest” letter, published it privately to cloak himself in an aura of righteousness and then continued to function disloyally by opening back channels to the press and at least one foreign government, thereby eroding the authority of his superior, the President. Obey, refuse or resign. Don’t say Yes Sir, salute smartly then backstab. Miley broke the code. He was disloyal. He was a grandstander. Now, like a used Kleenex, he and his self serving opinions are of no moment. All four stars are political. When they start behaving like politicians they should be discarded. Like a used Kleenex, tossed and forgotten. Neither venerated nor persecuted, but consigned to the irrelevant

[@HighFlyer-p8x]

Im sure he saved a copy of it (soft or hard copy), let’s see it.

[@Wyatt_Holiday]

Your comment is perfect.

[@davidwoolsey2300]

Well put!

[@tombombadil8709]

Don't forget that he was a huge supporter of trans insanity in the military. That alone is treasonous.

[@Michael-hg2sq]

I agree, General Milley should have sent his resignation letter in, as soon as he wrote it. You don't talk like a buddy at school Yard to your counterpart in a foreign country just because you don't agree with your President!

[@elizabethclifton4300]

He didn't send it because he knew his thoughts and opinions were garbage. He compared a president who was the least authoritarian of my lifetime with the most authoritarian dictators of the 20th century, and whose actions and motivations were diametrically opposed to the ideologies of these monsters.

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

No one in the comment seems to consider that such communications might be way more common than they believe.

[@CP-tm7be]

When the "disagreement" with your "president" is that you think he's a deranged moron who will launch nukes because "if you have nukes and don't use them, what good are they?", you MAY WANT TO reassure your counterparts that there are cooler heads surrounding him. He probably helped our country far more than is portrayed.

[@Martin-c8f4t]

@@extragoogleaccount6061 Whether it is “common” or not; it is Treasonous.

[@damiangrouse4564]

@@extragoogleaccount6061 doubt it very much

[@christophertheconqueror8751]

To be brief. If a commissioned officer of the armed forces, finds themselves to the point where they have to WRITE a resignation letter, you already resigned in your heart. Hanging in to it doesn't help.

[@thanosperl5451]

Typical generalization and false equivalency argument. Don't blame me...look at them!

[@christophertheconqueror8751]

​@thanosperl5451 there is no argument to be had. You can resign because you suck, or because your boss sucks or because you both suck. The point is if you made it to the point where you typed up your letter you already "rung the bell". Hanging on to it only makes things worse. Go back and read what I actually typed and don't read into it what you want.

[@kshepard52]

It's actually very common.

[@EinKerl3554]

I hoped he wrote it using simple words, since the resignation letter was intended for a POTUS who can barely read at a third grade level.

[@johnmonrow9981]

30 years ago, every 3+ star general signed and submitted an undated resignation letter. Oh how times have changed.

[@carriebutler-sx9kg]

If you warn the enemy of an impending attack from as a general, that is treason. Full stop

[@andrewiglinski148]

Not if the attack is planned to consolidate power for a political party or organization here in the US. This is objective. The pledge directly addresses threats foreign _and domestic_ for a reason.

[@Maddog29]

My problem with him is calling his Chinese counterpart not once but twice and stating what he did to him behind the Presidents back.

[@armygman79]

That could be considered "all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces".

[@lonpfrb]

​@armygman79 How is preventing avoidable conflict with a peer bad for good order and discipline? The audience of political rhetoric is both foreign and domestic, with different consequences typically. Reducing unintended consequences, especially to national security seems like a valuable contribution. Politicians don't know how Generals think, for that you need a General...

[@armygman79]

@lonpfrb what seems sensible might not be lawful. Communicating outside the chain-of-commamd is generally a "no-no", especially when it is to a foreign non-friendly nation. If the general had at least backbriefed POTUS, then maybe some grace. This also doesn't address the issue of belligerent speech towards the office of POTUS. There are devices in place to address issues with leaders at all levels. (Whistle blower laws exist for such a reason. )

[@Khronogi]

​@@armygman79you are essentially arguing that you'd rather we exterminate all life on earth because of a man's title, than to take a sensible action to preserve humanity. That's ridiculous.

[@georgebowen3925]

​@lonpfrb I respect your opinion but I don't share it. The war-deterrence factor of the military is predicated on the belief in the mind of an adversary, that the lethal fighting force of a nation speaks with only one voice. The voice of the President. To have multiple voices decreases the security of our nation by projecting weakness and instability to our adversaries

[@Oregunian]

Milley better not get a jury from the people commenting on this video. Ward shows how officers will twist themselves into pretzels to look out for their own, but once again twist themselves into pretzels go out of their way to destroy a young grunts life.

[@CrackedCandy]

Oh Buddy! He sure did, didnt he.

[@megumin1054]

Yeah officers are scum these days. Senior NCOs too. I have zero faith in them. How much Chinese money did General milley earn selling us out??

[@AdamG.GoNavy.FlyNavy]

@@Oregunian I wouldn’t be so hard on Ward. As a presenter I think he was shooting for neutrality in an attempt not to show favoritism to either side of the story. Difficult as that may be for this subject.

[@ivanbluetarski9071]

@@AdamG.GoNavy.FlyNavy oh yeah about as neutral as cnn and even used the same talking points

[@thefly5568]

I say guilty.

[@rdlynes]

It's funny that General milley narrates the walk to the church as a political event when he was one of the most political generals of our time

[@robhaythorne4464]

I was commissioned in 1968 and spent many years on active duty and in the Army Reseve. My range of experience is from company level to the pentagon and as a civilian advisor to the Secretary of Defense. My last day on active duty was in 2004, when I retired and hung up my spurs as a consultant, too. Throughout all that time I was fortunate to have never met any men as incompetent or disloyal as Mike Milley.

[@Johnoftheshire]

Milley shows his letter of resignation to Bob Woodward, the letter he never submitted. Hmmm…

[@rys3486]

He was covering his ass as he does today.

[@zakobrien8764]

Well Ward, I know you won't do it because of how obvious it is, but it would be amusing to hear how you spin Milley being pardoned today.

[@jguillot72]

Exactly...why pardon someone not charged with a crime? They must think the average person is quite ignorant.

[@stevecovaleski6315]

He won't, ward has shown his true colors... he's a liberal swamp hack. I'll be leaving his channel for good 🇺🇲

[@peggypearlman]

@@jguillot72 They do indeed.

[@MrBumbles2]

pardons are for criminals period, enough said

[@gotchagoing4905]

According to the UCMJ, there is NO PARDONS for treason, and it could mean the death penalty.

[@navret1707]

“Mooch”, I’m a retired Mustang LCDR. Like you, I was a 1320 but never had “legal eagle” as a collateral duty so I guess that makes me a “Sea Lawyer”. I think you brushed over a critical element in the discussion of treason. One of the key elements in the definition is “. . . giving aid and comfort to the enemy.” To me, Milley removed a, potentially, critical piece from the President’s ability to negotiate with the CCP and potentially any other adversary. His actions also undermined the basic tenet of the relationship between the military and the government, that is, he showed that he was willing to undermine the civilian authority. As I remember it, Milley violated at least 5 articles in the UCMJ, from treason down to dereliction of duty. Hypothetically, the CCP threatens to invade Taiwan. Taiwan is an ally of the U.S. and an invasion of it could/would be grounds to declare war. If the bad guys know that they have an in into the President’s decision making authority, the threat of retaliation is removed from the board. Just my thoughts here. This is a situation that requires people higher in the food chain than I. Take care “Mooch”. Fly Navy 🇺🇸

[@citizenchen1700]

Thanks, I am an immigrant from Free Taiwan 45 years ago.

[@jaybleu6169]

Milley didn't say he'd warn China of a counterattack if they launched an attack on us or an ally. He was just assuring them that we weren't about to attack them. If they were nervous enough about that, they may have launched a pre-emptive strike against us, which is what I assume Milley was trying to avoid.

[@avgjoe5969]

@@jaybleu6169 Really? Do you have the transcript? Because if you don't, then that's BS.

[@jaybleu6169]

@ Obviously, I, like everyone else, am basing my thoughts on what's been reported. Maybe it's all a lie, and none of it even happened and they just talked about what they had for breakfast. Maybe the two generals hatched a joint plan for world domination. But we can only go off the information we do have.

[@damiangrouse4564]

@@jaybleu6169 not his job...his job as described in this video was to "advice" the president about the alleged nervousness.

[@trefiesII]

So tell me why, as a four year Naval Academy instructor, do you suppose innocence and "ethical military behavior" would merit a presidential pardon?

[@WardCarroll]

Not my lane.

[@dagneytaggart7707]

​@@WardCarroll Is it your lane to comment on continuing to serve a cognitively incompetent Commander in Chief without comment? Milley participated in and supported the farce.

[@GTGibbs]

I feel you left your lane already Sir. So why not give your take on the question? I’d like to hear your response, as I value your opinions.

[@Alpha_Omega_1541]

Make it clear I’m not taking a side here just pointing out why someone might be preemptively pardoned. If you ask me, the president should not have that kind of power.

[@MrZarono]

@@WardCarroll You're full of 💩

[@dy031101]

I as a Taiwanese am primarily interested in what *_else_* Milley would have told PLA in the event of a conflict, which would almost certainly involve Taiwan. If push came to shove, I could only have prayed that he wasn't in any position to offer what isn't his to give.

[@dy031101]

@tallguy6055 Fair enough.

[@meynardocustodio7150]

YES MILEY DID LIKE TO CALL THE ENEMY

[@meynardocustodio7150]

IT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPERS and he confirmed it

[@Khronogi]

It felt as if he was trying to prevent a nuclear war, thereby doing his duty to protect the people of the united states.

[@douglemay7989]

@@Khronogi MAGAts think that their golden idol can do what he pleases. Morons.

[@Skyblade12]

You laid out that Milley had three honorable actions he could have chosen: Obedience, disobedience with consequences, or resignation. Instead, he chose none of those options. He usurped the chain of command, bypassing not only POTUS, but also SECDEF, to swear fealty to a foreign country. That is treason at the most basic level. It is not a choice that he was allowed to make per the Constitution or any sort of moral law. He invented a fear that did not materialize to justify his own obedience to an enemy power over his own oath and commanding officer. In no world is that action morally justifiable. That you teach ethics and would teach that it is not treason to betray your country to its enemies if you dislike or are afraid of your boss or his decisions is disgusting and terrifying. You have just informed me that you are training our military to believe that they have no obligation to obey their oaths or the Constitution.

[@BrianHoff04]

I missed the parts about swearing fealty. Can you point it out?

[@Skyblade12]

@ “I promise I will tell you if we are going to make any hostile moves to you” is making a promise of loyalty to the enemy nation.

[@zekofirez39]

That’s not at all treason at the most basic level. Classic treason is more like swearing an oath to one country and fighting in its military, then going over to the other side, putting on their uniform, and taking up arms with them against your original country, helping to kill citizens of your original country. That’s quite different than the situation here. Why choose to be so hyperbolic? Obviously it’s not as night and day as Benedict Arnold and cases like it, so no need to portray it as if it is.

[@jasondavidson6744]

Well said and thank you for the brilliant comments!

[@douglemay7989]

He invented nothing. Donald is a mad man.

[@gimpau]

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"

[@ishidan01]

"They say that evil prevails when good men do nothing. What they should say is, evil prevails."

[@SharperthanA]

Hopefully we will stand past this fever dream of a con man.

[@lzcontrol]

@@SharperthanA We need more gay people like you.

[@Skyblade12]

The problem, of course, is that Milley is not a good man. He’s a communist and a traitor. Ward very clearly laid out the options that Milley had that were honorable: obey, disobey, or resign. Instead, he chose to swear fealty to a foreign country.

[@danielbrown9368]

The folks in this comments section are not at that level. But good on you at least.

[@psgusa]

It is very plain that Milley is untrustworthy by his own admission. To have the gall to contact a foreign power to advise them of what the US will or will not do is despicable and disgraceful. If a regular officer or soldier did this he would be arrested and charged. It also seems clear he suffers from TDS.

[@steveshadow]

This General's job was partly to interface with foreign military leaders. Maybe he should have told his boss what he said but it was in his job purview. Yes rank mean you have different responsibilities.

[@jamesbrown5600]

@@steveshadow Only when authorized, not on his own, Milley did not have the legal authority to make either call because neither was authorized by the Commander in Chief.

[@VagabondTexan]

I just read "Operation Pineapple Express" about the largely civilian led effort to get our Afghan allies and their families out of Kabul. Granted it was just one interaction, but the author did not paint Milley in a flattering light.

[@DeathBlossom867]

Milley's guiding principle was always "do nothing, dodge responsibility." His conduct regarding the withdrawal was criminal and shows his true colors but they were always there. It shocks me to this day that he was made CJCS.

[@jaredkronk4614]

That whole thing was so over-hyped. Want to be social media influencers mostly scamming donation money

[@VS24AT]

The evacuation lan was NEVER to abandon the airbase at Bagram much like we still have "vial interests in Syria under rocket attack these days

[@larrylazar8357]

General Milley acted in what he believed were in the best interests of the United States and the world order. I truly hope there are others around with spines who will do what's best for American in a legal mannor.

[@FactCheckerGuy]

@@larrylazar8357 General Milley acted in what he believed were in the best interests of his own political interests. [Fixed it for ya.]

[@corywilhelm9768]

It's very simple...if he doesn't want to obey orders from his boss, then he should have just quit. General Milley is not a General at all. He set a bad example for those who think they can do as they please, even to the detriment of others. NO RETIREMENT.

[@kennethjohnson6619]

Frankly, your analysis is spot on. Miller made a huge mistake in judgment when he chose not to retire. To that point I had no negative reaction to his conduct. Subsequent to deciding not to resign he went south, particularly with his discussions with the lead Chinese general - an action not sanctioned by the CIC. I have huge problems with that - and they imply a general court. However, that has significant logistical problems. Bottom line is that Milley needs to be exposed for his insubordination.

[@kennethjohnson6619]

Damn spell check - it is Milley not Miller.

[@BrianHoff04]

@@kennethjohnson6619 And it seems he has been exposed for what he did. Here we all are, posting about it.

[@bobmiley9587]

@@BrianHoff04 I think he meant exposed, as in a General Court Martial!

[@tobyw9573]

Quite possibly Milley's resignation should be a classified document and stored as such.

[@corynelson8912]

It seems that Milley has some questions to answer... under oath... in front of a jury.

[@basrinak6372]

Having read Eddie Gallagher's book, I take Milley's stance on alleged war crimes with a shaker of salt.

[@jakemurray2635]

Reading Mein Kampf might give you doubts about the nuremburg trials you moron. Read the widely publicised reports about the war crimes, not the damn suspects statement.

[@stupidburp]

Advising and communicating with the Speaker of the House was within the outer boundary of his authority and responsibility. Calling up the leaders of China was allowed by policy to maintain channels of communication. However, asserting intentions and giving promises were inappropriate and could have potentially impacted national security. Some things are best kept secret or ambiguous. That includes some things that could risk war. I disagree with many of President Trump’s calls and comments. So did General Milley. But I would not have told China that we were not going to do what the President was saying. That is undermining the chain of command. Even if I disagree with the decision it still is not the place for a General to make their own policy.

[@timmardon6161]

Remember DJT wanted NG to be on site before the 6th and was refused!??

[@FloridaGuy549]

@@timmardon6161 Yep, recent reports on testimony before Congress leave no doubt that the DOD ignored direct orders...

[@jerryhand8538]

WRONG HIS ONLY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO THE PRESIDENT ! SHE HAS HOUSE COMMITTEE HEARINGS TO COMMUNICATE her questions!

[@hlynnkeith9334]

@stupidburp "Advising and communicating with the Speaker of the House was within the outer boundary of his authority and responsibility." Maybe. Who made the call? If Pelosi called Milley, that is within bound IMO. If Milley called Pelosi, that is insubordination. "Calling up the leaders of China was allowed by policy to maintain channels of communication." No. Milley had nothing to say to General Lee. Milley's statement reflected disunity in the highest commands in the US.

[@CaptainSeamus]

The thing that keeps smacking back is the fact that DJT was the first President in a whole lot of years to NOT start a new conflict... and moreover, wound a few of them down... Not exactly the crazy that Milley and a lot of other people kept presenting him as being... many others in the administrations prior to and after his all are in on warmongering... but we're OK with that??? Seems kinda weird to me to claim DJT is wanting to start stuff, when his actions clearly show the opposite. And Milley (of all people) should have been able to discern that - and probably did, and did appears to have NOT liked the lack of warmongering... just my observation.

[@tenchraven]

Well, my days of taking you seriously just came to screaming end. As a flag officer, you don't get to make "bad calls". And you for damn sure do not contact the leadership of a rival near peer nation and offer to warn them if you are given certain orders. That act made him an intelligence asset of a foreign power, in violation of the law and his oath. Why he did it is irrelevant. He did it. He provided aid to a overtly hostile power. And even if we're not at war with the PRC, we weren't at war with the USSR for decades either, but this would have been treason if the Chairman had called the Soviets and said he warn them if something might happen. Many traitors do so on the theory they are "saving their country", doesn't mean they aren't traitors and oath breakers.

[@tallguy6055]

We had a treaty with the USSR to notify them in advance of our movements and intentions in West Germany, they had monitors in West Germany to ensure we adhered to that treaty. It is called a status of forces treaty. Additionally in an area of high tension or active conflict this is normally done and is called deconflicting at the SecDef and CoJCS levels. So it is not black and white as you frame it. Wether Milley would have followed through on the notification and in what context is another story. I don't think he should have made or taken the calls without briefing someone. I don't see it as a black and white issue though. CoJCS is not a Call of Duty type video game. Your making a judgement call here as are others and nobody has a clue what agreements were in place with PRC between SecDef or CoJCS before those calls were made. Even the video publisher has no clue and is leaping to a conclusion based on what information? SecDef Austin had verbal deconflicting arrangements with PRC in relation to the phone that was used by General Milley. Not mentioned anywhere in this video or so far by anyone in this thread going into hysterics over this.

[@haloguy628]

@@tallguy6055 Deconflicting is a process of the two adversaries agreeing on the method and means of contact approved by both governments. Picking up the phone and calling the enemy without any authorization from your chain of command and deciding to run your own foreign policy without knowledge of anyone else in the government is not deconflicting. That's gross insubornation and possibly espionage under Title 18. Problem with your argument is that you use the good ole liberal but, but, but method to justify your wrong assessment. Behavior of Milley was an issue of black or white since his oath, his position, his authority, his responsibilities and his chain of command were clearly defined.

[@tallguy6055]

@@haloguy628 Your facts are incorrect the call was made by pre-established hotline between US and China. Using the hotline is a pre-estabished process to avoid conflict, in fact it is deconflictimg. On hotlines the call is automatic. One just picks up the phone and a direct call is placed. How can you possibly allege treason if you do not know clearly the facts? Do you know the JCS is an advisory role and Gen Milley was at the top of the advisory chain of command? Past JCS chairman have used the hotline before in a similar manner. Do you know the procedures for using the hotline? Did you know this hotline was established in 2008? Just curious why the phone would be in the Pentagon if they have to first call the White House to use it? Milley's chain of command is not POTUS, it is Secretary of Defense.........believe it or not the calls were authorized by the civilian side, Sorry you were misled.

[@qna95B]

@@tallguy6055 You're understanding of loyalty and duty to nation is incorrect

[@freebuilder007]

@@tallguy6055 Thank you for the clarification.

[@fujiwaramichaelm6686]

Hey, even during those high school days, if we found out our team capt. called up the other school's team capt to assure him he'll tell him what our coach's plan is, OMG!

[@niko7903]

That's not in ANY way analogous.

[@douglemay7989]

Was your coach a traitor, like the orange blob?

[@fujiwaramichaelm6686]

@@douglemay7989 are you sure its orange not reddish yellow?

[@fujiwaramichaelm6686]

@@douglemay7989 how big was your blob?

[@TheMoneyBed]

It's espionage at minimum and treason at worst. Either way his actions are unforgivable and inexcusable.

[@JephN79]

But telling a POW vet "I'm only friends with people who weren't captured" is totally fine?

[@jeromezacks994]

Yes, you get it! Trump's phone calls to Putin, (seven times!), without notifying the President of the United States, is espionage and treason! You are 100% correct. Now, I'm interested to hear your advice concerning what should be done about it.

[@haloguy628]

@@JephN79 Disproven lie. Like a thousand other lies the "anonymous" marxist swine fed to the allied marxist media for now close to nine years.

[@1ask2risk]

Milley was the catalyst for DEI. He talked about politicalization! Wow that is rich. And from a guy who circumvented his CIC, talking to a potential hostile nation.

[@Khronogi]

DEI is hiring competent people who would otherwise be passed over for being apart of marginalized communities. What is wrong with DEI?

[@eriknervik9003]

Another thought about this. Despite the pop history version of the Relief of General MacArthur because he wanted to nuke the Chinese, in reality MacArthur was relieved because he was cooperating with congress in a manner hostile to president Truman, I see no real difference between that and Milley conspiring with Pelosi, other then Milley was largely a failure as a commander and MacArthur is a revered American hero, which makes the failure to relieve Milley worse

[@Redwhiteblue-gr5em]

Excellent point

[@WardCarroll]

So why didn't Trump have the SA to fire him?

[@andrewhefner289]

MacArthur is the most overrated General Officer in our history. As a commander he made two excellent strategic decisions and a fair number of excellent tactical decisions, but the number of terrible decisions made, absolutely dwarf those successes. At best he was a terrible commander with moments of brilliance.

[@Redwhiteblue-gr5em]

@@andrewhefner289 I’m pretty knowledgeable about US military history. I realize he made some mistakes but what are some of his terrible decisions that dwarfs his positive accomplishments??

[@andrewhefner289]

@@Redwhiteblue-gr5em first: from the very beginning of his career he was a political opportunist and egotist which grew to ridiculous proportions towards the end. Second: He surrounded himself with incompetent sycophants who fed him farcical assessments and prevented combat commanders from timely access. Third: He was absolutely incapable of admitting error of even the most petty of instances. All of these combined to lead him to almost losing the Korean war when success was within reach.

[@wbskas]

Milley thinks of himself more highly than he ought......and a disgrace to his rank and his country.

[@stevengunter2171]

He’s part of the reason the military is so jacked up today

[@aaronsinsley8161]

Look it doesn't matter what the political situation is. If he disobeyed a lawful order from the president of the United States he must be legally liable.

[@jimsmith7212]

Yeah, like in WW2 when the Germans and Japanese accused of war crimes said they were just following orders. They got death sentences or prison terms because that's not an excuse.

[@RandallBriggs-s2k]

What exactly was the lawful order that you say he disobeyed?

[@jakemurray2635]

Blind loyalty to a lame duck president on his way out in mere days is something right out of 1945 Germany.

[@douglemay7989]

@@jakemurray2635 Donald wanted to burn the planet down.

[@lonestar3433]

I'm not a Gen. Miley fan, but you have enlightened my thoughts on him. If your great presentation is accurate, my feelings are not as critical. He should have resigned earlier. Thank you and good job!

[@StevenStyczinski-sy8cj]

😳 omg. May rational minds prevail! “A smart man learns from his mistakes, and a wise man learns from other people’s mistakes “.

[@wileycoyote7041]

What's your point?

[@anthonyiocca5683]

@@wileycoyote7041it’s complicated

[@slovokia]

What about the people that are incapable of learning from anyones mistakes or even recognizing / admitting that a mistake was made?

[@anthonyiocca5683]

@@slovokia don’t vote for them, they keep doing the same thing expecting better results…

[@markteague8889]

Experience holds a dear school, and fools will learn by no other.

[@danfreeman9079]

War sucks, don't start them.

[@Collision_9]

Tell that to Russia

[@Collision_9]

Tell that to Russia

[@Collision_9]

Tell that to Russia

[@Catch_The_Irishman]

​@@Collision_9research the maidan coup and then get back to us.

[@Khronogi]

​@@Catch_The_Irishmanthe people of ukraine wanted to escape from russian influence and they did, and after they did russia started the war. This isnt about the US, it's about Russia wanting control.

[@timmahoney9207]

Pardon or no pardon Milley needs to tried for his Treasonous Acts!

[@yiannisyiannaki3874]

Analysis to the point. Well done. You covered all angles. Conclusion... hard to distinguish army code of duty and political conduct.

[@DavidWolfensperger]

I disagree, It is simple, Milley vowed to inform foreign oponents even enemies who were contemplating war against the U.S. if and when any military decisions were made against them. He is a traitor.

[@rdlynes]

My immediate family between four of us serve this nation for 80 years in its military Millie does not represent what I fought for

[@robertbarber4486]

I always had a simple rule, NEVER trust anyone over the rank of O-4, E-6 or CWO-3. Made my life in the military very enjoyable and trouble free.

[@user-qf6yt3id3w]

It's a shame really. Good people ascend the chain of command and get corrupted like H R McMaster. I don't think Milley was a good person though.

[@karlk9316]

Milley lost his way as he rose in rank.

[@billybudd6776]

Lot of truth to that but not always. Two of my best friends were a LCDR that I flew with many times and the CMC that I knew since he was a second class PO. I was a E6

[@gregstreuber]

@@billybudd6776 Lt. Commander is an O-4, he said above O-4.

[@ronaldfharring7326]

Yeah, that sounds like the salty wisdom of a very junior individual who resents the authority of his seniors. Time to find another job.

[@mpennipep]

It was treason. There are 4 stars from desert storm that would hear and probably convict. Sadly, Milley should probably leave the country in shame.

[@garymartin9777]

Article III Section 3 of the US Constitution says otherwise. look it up.

[@VPPAF]

didnt this general tell the press that a drone strike on a innocent man and his children in the last days of the afganhistan war a good job and stopped a attack on the airport before the truth finally came out and he couldnt deny anymore a drone strike that nobody has ever been held to account for

[@Russell_Huston]

YES HE DID!

[@Catch_The_Irishman]

He actually used the term " righteous airstrike"... he is a clown.

[@danmeek928]

Telling a potential enemy that if there’s going to be an attack, I will contact you first, that’s treason

[@Martin-c8f4t]

Absolutely

[@WeAllLaughDownHere-ne2ou]

Preventing likely nuclear WAR is not treason. Especially when the "leader" is a literal Brainlet whose ego is bigger than his IQ. We got Nero steering the boat.

[@RollsCanardly-fv9ks]

Pedojoe was literally shitting his pants and sniffing children. Your TDS is unconvincing and unsupported by facts.

[@jefsel881]

@@WeAllLaughDownHere-ne2ou yep, great point.

[@randallturner9094]

Of course it is. What’s with this guy claiming otherwise? He’s quibbling over whether he’d be charged with something else? The list of charges on Milley would be long as my arm. Unbelievable.

[@YTRocketMan]

In Anton Myrer’s tome “Once an Eagle”, we have the standing analogy for officers that they fall into two categories: They are either a “Damon” or a “Massengale”. The former loves his troops, the latter his career. General Milley falls into one of those categories. It may be clear to some which one.

[@michaelbaja1854]

A presidential pardon does not cover cases of treason, as specified in the U.S. Constitution. The president's pardon power is limited and cannot be used to affect the consequences of impeachment, which includes treason.

[@garymartin9777]

And Article III Section 3 of that same document defines treason in the US. clearly you have never read it.

[@07jayann]

From a civilian, Milley sounds like a drama queen with a king complex.

[@MrBadgas]

Good commentary. I agree he should have resigned when he wrote the letter.

[@DavidSaintloth]

And thus provide a space for the very danger that he saw to our nation being able to complete its will. No, you don't resign. You stay in power, protect the nation and then you take the consequences afterwards. That's what he did and that was the right thing to do. He said it many times. We the military does not take an oath to a president or a or a king. It's to the Constitution and if the president moves in such a way as if he is in violation of that Constitution, it is the obligation of those generals to oppose the will of that President. That's by design. All you guys saying that he's a traitor are just mad that he refused to be a complete puppet to this lunatic that he had as his commander-in-chief.

[@b.w.9244]

All militaries have back channel communications.

[@oldscratch3535]

@@b.w.9244 Ones that circumvent the Commander-in-Chief? 250 years ago he'd have been put to death.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

I have written resignation letters as therapy, I suspect I’m not the only one, but nobody else would see them unless I was in fact planning on not showing up. And I never shared it with anyone other than my boss, why would he share it with others if not to elicit some type of reaction. There’s a scene in Stargate SG-1 where General O’Neill is writing his letter of resignation to General Hammond, the entire episode is focused around that. Then, at the end, he types “never mind” and the letter sits there never to be sent or shown to anyone but us as the onlookers. I swear I’ve done that exact thing.

[@Khronogi]

I think that's what we can all agree upon.

[@roudydog3063]

Any way you look at Millie he was completely out of his position thinking it would be ok to Tip off the Chinese what a self elevated action and "Stupid" one

[@MichaelDewey-n7u]

Milley took a political position opposed to that of the president. That decision cast him in the progressive left. Milley should have retained his honor and resigned as his released letter of resignation states, he didn’t. Milley’s support of social engineering of the military sealed his fate.

[@MichaelDewey-n7u]

Joe Dunford would never have taken a political position period.

[@TexasGI47life]

I love the political grandstanding this guy does in front of the cameras. He talks about how his dad was not allowed to resign at Iwo Jima, even though this chairman wanted to resign before his first year was over. According to Markey Mark, this country does want generals figuring out what orders to follow. It seems to me as a combat vet with four tours in Iraq that the country also does not want American generals more loyal to the Chinese brass than to our commander-in-chief.

[@douglemay7989]

The toddler in chief does not deserve loyalty.

[@chrismaggio7879]

That CinC was voted in by mob mentality and cult of personality almost as a play toy, with not only a lack of military understanding, but a disrespect for you, me, and every other service member (past or present), plus he denigrates and demeans veterans at every turn. His understanding of how and when to use military might is 0. He was a gameshow host, Tex, and a failed businessman with a laundry list of crimes and thievery not to mention a serious racist with a homophobic, antisemitic bent. He hates everyone who can't make him richer or won't bow to his whims. I don't condone fully what Milley did but I do understand/believe he was protecting our country from our own then-current tyrannical moron. I don't believe he (Milley) was at all loyal to the Chinese but was more accurately telling them to stop poking the big orange gorilla because he has no filter or common sense. I do also appreciate that you, me my father, my brother, my grandfather all served to protect our right to agree, disagree, and have the freedom to speak our minds. Be safe, and thank you for your service.

[@jmc0369]

As a retired (Aug1 2006) US Marine infantry man, lifelong libertarian and now political atheist, these comments are a blast to read. Even seeing the leaps of faith taken by the creator of the video is problematic. Gents, the ship is going down. We are being bridged into a new international economic order. The pain is only beginning.

[@keiththompson230]

rather have a president that is already in Putin's pocket and loves money more than country??????

[@TexasGI47life]

@@jmc0369 Thank you for the wonderful things you have done for the country. Stay strong, as people like Keiththompson30 in the thread still suffer from TDS.

[@whiteeagle58]

Lets make one thing clear. The position of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is in fact a Political position, not a military position. A fact that Milley never understood. While wearing the uniform Milley is bound by the military code of ethics and calling the enemy to inform them that you will notify them in advance of any attack I think violates that code of ethics. I would support any effort to have Milley Court Martialed, stripped of his rank and pension.

[@ryansmith7974]

The Russian's call the US when they sent the ICBM into Ukraine "The United States was pre-notified briefly before the launch through Nuclear Risk Reduction channels," spokesman Sabrina Singh told reporters." These calls are made to prevent full on nuclear war.

[@dustydesert1674]

That kind of call is done with the full knowledge of Putin. It was not made in secret with a statement that if it were nuclear some general would try to stop it.

[@whiteeagle58]

@@ryansmith7974 General Milley's position as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff made him a Liaison between the Pentagon and the President. General Milley had no authority to do anything else. There were other people within the White House that were tasked with making that call if it ever needed to be made.

[@carode99705]

@@ryansmith7974 But WHO did that call go to and were there protocols (treaties) in place to demand that they happen? You're confusing multiple apples & oranges situations.

[@DuffyF56]

Milley should be recalled to active duty and charged under the UCMJ Article 134. His actions were detrimental to good order and discipline in the military by setting a precedent that Sr. Officers can take Unilateral Actions without civilian order. He should also be charged in Civilian Court on principle even if a conviction is suspect for treason to again demonstrate that all will be held accountable for their actions.

[@lonpfrb]

Making Accountability Great Again 🇺🇸😡 That's not happening for #45, but he was clear about his love of retribution...

[@Khronogi]

Id argue the moral authority of stopping unjust nuclear war is higher than killing all life on earth because of one man's title.

[@DuffyF56]

@@Khronogi If you served or believed in the Constitution you would understand.

[@douglemay7989]

@@lonpfrb MAGA, when special education gave up.

[@douglemay7989]

@@DuffyF56 I believe in the Constitution. Donald is ineligible for the office that he just stole.

[@lotharvonrichthofen4474]

“…providing aid and comfort to their enemies…” Milley is guilty

[@garymartin9777]

are you aware that SCOTUS has ruled that for constitutional purposes an enemy must be engaged in open hostilities against the US? ISIS is currently an enemy -- China is an adversary. Cold Wars don't count.

[@longtabsigo]

Last parting shot; Milley, while receiving military pay, called a former President, a Fascist! Spoke in derogatory terms and denigrated him calling him an existential threat, it seems to me, if he TRULY meant those words, he would not turn around, just hours after becoming the president elect and say “well, he wasn’t all that bad, he’s kinda a good dude. 🐈

[@proudbirther1998]

Yep! You point out Milley's Hypocrisy.

[@douglemay7989]

Telling the truth is a threat?

[@longtabsigo]

@ what is your factual fact pattern that proves this? Not opinion, but fact patterns with examples of actions.

[@Ballerbandit]

For someone who is so unpolitical and so by the book it sure is not a good look to call your Chinese counterpart behind the acting presidents back no matter who that president might be………Maybe it’s part of understanding that white rage he wants to know so much about.

[@PBAR_B1B]

Unfortunately, retired general/admirals have politicized the military long before then by endorsing presidential candidates of both parties, which in my opinion they should not do.

[@aptasi]

Thanks!

[@kendigjl]

This should be a lesson to all military - you could be ordered to do things that you completely disagree with. If you're given an opportunity to legally walk away, you need to take it.

[@billbubnis3128]

When the title of the video is "The real truth", it makes you wonder if the truth wasnt good enough in the first place and now we have to have the "real" truth now which is usually full of peoples ideas and emotions, instead of the cold hard facts. A court martial will decide his fate.

[@xiaoka]

It’s called editorial license. He has done a series with a similar title. Get over it.

[@billbubnis3128]

@xiaoka and I'm expressing my editorial license by saying, you both suck

[@MitchFlint]

Article II, Section 2: "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, ..." Doesn't that say it all?

[@marky657]

Damn straight it does, enough said.

[@tallguy6055]

Yes it says you do not understand nor have you read the entire Constitution and are just cherry picking to support your point of view. You might want to read seperation of powers and what that means for the "Commander in Chief" title. Secretary of Defense is the person who commands troops via direction of the President. There is no direct from President to uniformed troop command authority...........period.

[@jakemurray2635]

Is blind loyalty to a lame duck president just days from leaving office really the standard of our military? Sounds positively Soviet.

[@adambydand1214]

@@jakemurray2635 It is the role of the military to do as the incumbent Commander in Chief bids. Failure to do so, you have the three options: Follow orders, Refuse orders and have an investigation on if those orders were legal, or resign.

[@bryonslatten3147]

@@jakemurray2635 Milley’s retirement speech was an easy Article 88 Contempt Toward Officials violation.

[@enterone801]

Milley’s resignation letter told me everything I needed to know. It’s a virtue signal top to bottom. He was al a coward for having reservations but then not acting on them, several times. Milley calling the Chinese behind his president’s back was treasonous. He’s a bum and I’m glad he’s out.

[@longtabsigo]

Milley is currently under consideration for having his Special Forces Tab. We cannot abide by an officer who worked as hard as he did to undermine the Civilian Authority over the Military.

[@Kq4hcuDan]

It needs to be stripped, along with his rank stripped back to Sargent. I'm sure all SOF community isn't happy with coward Milley

[@geopolitix7770]

Nice that you're concerned. Sadly you're going to have to abide by much more morally offensive behaviour from the white house. Happy with the new Navy Secretary then? (A florida real estate mogul who's never been to sea or served)

[@geopolitix7770]

​@@Kq4hcuDanmaybe. At least he tried to stand up for their standards and rules when they wanted to court martial those soldiers

[@longtabsigo]

@@geopolitix7770 why would you want to have someone who is already part of the maritime mafia? All you are going to get is “more of the same.” Here is the PERFECT example. I was part of the original team to flesh out the requirements for the new “Littoral Combat Craft.” The plan was to build 500 $1M networked fast attack boats that were either autonomous or minimally manned, essentially disposable, armed boats networked to a mothership or “hub” craft with a few more folks. There were to be boats with torpedoes, bushmasters, dual M2’s, Mark 19’s etc. once proof of concept was completed there would be subsequent buys until every combatant commander had their MTOE filled. What happened when the big blue water navy got hold of the this Brown Water Requirement? 45 $500 LCS’s that suck and can’t fulfill a fraction of the original requirements. THAT’S why you bring in an outsider who isn’t beholden unto ANYONE.

[@longtabsigo]

@ we refer to him as Milley Vanilly

[@dadrocha7741]

"....all men are created equal....". These words are from the Declaration of Independence, NOT the Constitution.

[@20DYNAMITE06]

The Constitution codifies that, which I think was his point.

[@DrunkChristian03]

@@20DYNAMITE06both quote Jesus Christ as we are a Christian founded nation…

[@sgt_loeram1933]

Yeah I’m kinda surprised by this video commentary from Ward, I honestly thought he was better than this

[@NorthSeaWisdom]

Are you 5 years old?

[@dadrocha7741]

@EsotericBreakfastBuffet yes

[@patmancrowley8509]

Ward, was this conversation on Air Force One between the President and General Milley recorded and or transcribed or is this second hand information that cannot be corroborated?

[@steven530x]

It can't be corroborated.

[@mENTALdRIFTER]

@@patmancrowley8509 the selectiveness by which Trumpites determine which uncorroborable information is and is not viable continues to amaze. Reactionaries to the core.

[@Hunter-zp5hd]

Yeah I wanted to know the same thing.

[@foobar3]

​@@mENTALdRIFTER please look up the definition of: uncorroborated. here, I will help you right here: not confirmed or supported by other evidence or information... How is uncorroborated evidence "viable" under any circumstance? It has a high likelihood of being false and is actively filtered out of decision making processes for a reason. I am looking forward for your coherent response.

[@mENTALdRIFTER]

@@foobar3 I thoroughly agree with your petulantly patronizing post that uncorroborated evidence is generally not viable. I would add that this is regardless of the source, and to whom the evidence is beneficial. That last part is the sticking point, and if you were as literate as you think you are while you touch yourself in front of the mirror, you'd notice that the words I used indicate that.

[@danieljohnston5306]

What part of “I will tell you before we do anything “ would NOT be aiding and giving comfort to the enemy??? Tho at this point charging him for treason now would be very stupid. Cancel his clearance, he is no longer a threat. His career is finished.

[@jobs.1518]

Thank you for teaching us about White Rage, General Milley

[@saltdog7585]

"It doesn't matter if you're Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, Jew or choose not to believe. None of that matters.... what matters is we're all Americans." So how did we go from this to the biggest threat to the country is right wing extremists in the military a year later???

[@HighFlyer-p8x]

SENSING SESSIONS

[@jameslowder7682]

The paragraph you cite, that "we are all Americans," is wonderful, but you have to read the entire letter, and thoroughly examine all of Milley's actions and misdeeds. Perhaps you did, and you are questioning the misdeeds?

[@saltdog7585]

@ I am. It's like those things are uttered under political convenience and then abruptly discarded when convenient again.

[@xiaoka]

@@saltdog7585who are you quoting when you’re saying right wing extremism is the biggest threat to the country?

[@Skyblade12]

@@xiaokaMilley.

[@bthe1doright462]

Civilian here - a lot of your other warship content is way over my head. THIS I got 100% and much appreciated covering such an important subject. I cannot imagine how difficult the next four years are going to be for key military posts - leaders - offices - I am relieved to hear of the massive guidelines and rules on the chain of command - -and I so appreciate the incredible service armed forces military give toward the protection of the people of us here in the USA. Much respect and admiration to you for maintaining this channel - - You speak with clarity - respectfulness - even temperance and intelligence that I wish was more prevalent across other aspects of our governmental functionality and moral condition. Best Regards. Thank you.

[@pookatim]

My main takeaway is, if you are correct, we need to fix the situation where a 4 star general can escape a general court martial because there aren't enough military officers who outrank him. That is a major invitation to misconduct by 4 star generals. No one is supposed to be above the law, especially self-serving generals like Milley. BTW-if the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff sending a personal message to the enemy to warn them about America's actions in advance isn't "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" I don't know what is. If not aid and comfort to the enemy what was Milley's purpose for undermining the President?

[@ChevTecGroup]

The officer brotherhood is still strong apparently...

[@nextstardx]

I am concerned over the future of our country.

[@paulmcdowell2345]

This is what happen when a country or empire over reaches.

[@nextstardx]

@@paulmcdowell2345 True. We don't seem to learn from history, in our case the Roman Empire.

[@jessehachey2732]

Judging from the many comments on here, yes y’all are f’ed! US is the global laughingstock.

[@shaughnyventura6000]

Not from the US but I think it's in a healthier place than you all think. The freedom to publically express such diverse opinions gives weight to your First Amendment. Many countries across the globe do not enjoy such freedoms.

[@tomthx5804]

Remember, Milley is the guy who insisted that all service members read books about Karl Marx

[@maitreyabadra2267]

So what?!... Do you want him to insist on not reading any books at all and end up as ignorant as his commander in chief?

[@Wolfsheim23]

People should read a few and learn what is happening around them. Like the Communist Manifest. Take it as a warning.

[@chadparsons50]

​@@maitreyabadra2267idk maybe have them read something instructive and not a time waster?

[@lonpfrb]

Perfectly reasonable if you believe that Marxism is a threat to national security..

[@Khronogi]

Whats wrong with that? Have you read marx?

[@donmarcoalfaro6856]

Thank you that was enjoyable informative thank you very much

[@richardciotti667]

Mark Milley serves as an advisor and does not possess the authority to independently communicate with China. His unauthorized decision to reach out to the Chinese government without proper authorization or informing the president is highly concerning and should be fully investigated. Such unilateral actions must not be repeated. It is illegal for the military to operate without proper oversight, and this behavior cannot be tolerated. Charges should be brought against him, and his pension should be revoked. Allowing this behavior to go unpunished sets a dangerous precedent for future Joint Chiefs of Staff to potentially operate independently from the president.

[@lonpfrb]

The audience of political rhetoric is both foreign and domestic, with different consequences typically. Reducing unintended consequences, especially to national security seems like a valuable contribution. Back channels have existed for a long time, with good reason. Politicians don't know how Generals think, for that you need a General...

[@Khronogi]

You are arguing that you would rather we have a nuclear war than disobey the order of a madman.

[@bleemac7296]

Milley’s initial letter of resignation was more a whiny kids rant than a four star General’s resignation. A simple I resign effective immediately would have done the job without the disrespect…justified or not. Personally, I don’t think Milley is a bad guy, but it’s clear to me he was in over his head for the task at hand, Chairman of the JCS.

[@markb7818]

Again as an overseas observer opening an unauthorised backchannel to the opposition seems in advisable (but according to the definitions provided here doesn’t seem to meet the criteria for Treason). However I’d argue that providing a security guarantee to a significant foreign power that’s unsubstantiated and therefore can’t be relied upon opens up potential ramifications none of us want to contemplate

[@PraiseTheLord95]

Usually Ward I like your content but I cannot agree that a Chairman of the Joint Chiefs can take unilateral action without informing the President of the US. He was compromised and conflicted and should have resigned. He never should have remained in his position. Appreciate your point of view and the fact that defended our country's right to free speech. Thank you for yiur service.

[@MrHalvnir]

He should be charged as a traitor, loose his rank & pension.

[@GentlemanJack295]

A good read for many of you watching would be "Dereliction of Duty: Lyndon Johnson, Robert McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam" by H. R. McMaster.

[@georgesykes394]

@@GentlemanJack295 Another good one is a Bright Shining Lie by Lieutenant Colonel John Paul Vann.

[@MrLJT1]

@@georgesykes394 Agreed. That is a very good book. I think the author is Neil Sheehan though.

[@bobgriffith1810]

Miley probably read it and became the basis in which he would be the one to determine if and when he would obey ,,

[@EranRicos]

Many of the yes, men at call for his trial are too stupid to read

[@georgesykes394]

@MrLJT1 You're 100% correct it is by Nieil Sheehan. But it's about America in Vietnam and Colonel Vann. The made for TV HBO movie wasn't bad also.

[@kenchow6741]

Mutiny Milley should be charged with "Treason".

[@stevehicks8944]

HOW is it “mutiny”? Cite your evidence. Are you absolutely certain that Milley had NOT received orders to make these calls? The Chairman of JCS has TWO immediate superiors: POTUS and SecDef. We know POTUS didn’t issue and order; what about Acting SecDef Christopher Miller?

[@davidcrowdermd2038]

Clearly you don't what treason is.

[@carode99705]

@@davidcrowdermd2038 "Aide and comfort to the enemy". When you're talking about nuclear war and offering to let the opposite side know you're not going to let it happen even if the President ORDERS it to happen then what, exactly would YOU call THAT? Seems like a pretty clear case of treason to me.

[@johnconner4695]

Really good video! I personally think the General Major mistake was working around the President with no communication which actually made it worse then had he spoke his mind with the president. He also showed he didn’t trust his fellow Generals to act in moral standing. Personally he lost my respect when he called a Chinese general without the President and worked around him thus now creating a outside influence that can in the future lead to a actual military coup influenced by a foreign entity. For these reasons alone his rank should be stripped and this needs to be taught.

[@918davisable]

“starting a nuclear war in his last days as president”, sounds really familiar……

[@adambydand1214]

Was about to say, "Isn't that happening right now?!"

[@p0sel2613]

​@@adambydand1214 Is it?

[@douglemay7989]

@@adambydand1214 Turn off Faux News, pal.

[@justinavery8664]

More frustrating are the military members or politicians that sit by and wait so they can cash in on their book deals.

[@elbobcat]

Sounds like Milley was speaking out of both sides of his mouth just to keep the paychecks flowing. It also sounds like Milley didn't want anyone to tell him what to do, but he wanted to be the one to make the important decisions.

[@stevenpace892]

I respect your opinion Ward, however the situation required judgement in my opinion. General Milley could not know what the President's plans were, but on its face he had a reasonable believe that a coupe was in progress. Also, legally treason can only occur in war time. And if there was a war in progress, it was a civil war. In that case his duty to the constitution is pretty clear.