Steve and Ian go over the Company Hero's and there unique rules, they also cover the character addition that HAS to join them.
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@swogg4586Ай бұрын
If it ain't Vulkan He'stan it ain't right 🙂↔️
@nicholasschian6651Ай бұрын
He was BORN to lead this unit!!
@level9LabАй бұрын
Oh dang ya Vulcan is a superstar here.
@stanberry6798Ай бұрын
I literally ran him in company heroes last night. I agree.
@knoxminis1211Ай бұрын
Same. With him being OC 10 on an objective they can definitely hold a point. It’s a ton of OC with FNPs and good amount of wounds to chew through.
@kyleboulier2272Ай бұрын
My friend plays Salamanders and every game Vulkan will be in this squad and I usually don't even bother to try to kill this unit
@ChadFromSpaceАй бұрын
I like my Company heroes in a tuxedo T-shirt because it says I want to be formal, but I'm here to party. No, but seriously, one of my favorite combos is Company Heroes with Capt. Sicarius and a Lieutenant... in an Impulsor. Sicarius gives everyone scouts, so the impulsor can scout, then it can advance, they can jump out, put a mountain of OC on an obj, AND they can reactive move with Sicarius, so, get back in the impulsor, or move back and prep for charge. LT buffs their shooting and melee a bit, Capt buffs both a bit. Makes them a sort of jack of all trades, super solid utility unit. Also with lethals and fall back and charge with LT. With Sicarius and an LT, you end up with nearly as many attacks as a squad of BGV, but, they all hit on 2s, so it shakes out to about the same. Plus the added benefit of some shooting and 4 wound models. Edit: Just got to the Sicarius part... guess I should have watched the rest of the video before commenting lol
@jprovorse4159Ай бұрын
@@ChadFromSpace always type first, watch later.
@ChadFromSpaceАй бұрын
@@jprovorse4159 lol, absolutely. I like to think that... they read my comment, then they edited and updated the video really quick, so people would think it was their idea! Cause youtube definitely, probably works like that.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
@@ChadFromSpace you guys get it, we film in real time while reading comments and upload just a few seconds before you watch, Id say its difficult, but it not. Steve is a pro.
@ChadFromSpaceАй бұрын
@@hyperspacehobbies hahaha! how else would get such juicy ideas for your content!
@JohnDoe-rp7mfАй бұрын
My favorite was Tycho, giving assault to whole squad in BA detachment allows them to move up board very quickly. And to gives there insane number of attacks some meaning you bring lieutenant for lethal hits
@justinc246Ай бұрын
Love my company heroes. When I first got the codex and the kit they immediately started with Vulkan Hestan. His main benefit of selecting a target wound rerolls for torrent and melta weapons is great hopping out of a redeemer (usually like running at least 2 redeemers and a 10man infernus squad) to flame and melta stuff. Vulkan loves having bodyguards when sitting on a selected objective. This is particularly nice on layouts that let him stand on a side midfield objective while getting los on the center to let your redeemers reroll flamer wounds against targets on the center Weirdly I really liked Calgar in my last tournament in a teams format with company heroes. I ran SM Ironstorm who really loves his extra CP and a spare brawler against the natural expansion midfield objective who is -1 to wound, 2+ 4++. It lets me deathball the rest of my vehicles to hold that “magic triangle “ of objectives with infiltrators on my home objective.
@JawaBobАй бұрын
I was about to add this same comment, their cost to wound count makes them great bodyguards. He'stan is my go too pick as well. Just park him on the center objective surrounded by flamers/meltas and dare them to take it. Great fun!
@justinc246Ай бұрын
@@JawaBob agreed. Though if you're facing an opponent who can't throw a ton of OC out there, and if Vulkan Hestan can peak a second objective from the one he's on, try it since he is way too much OC to often be worth sending anything cheap to skirmish. At 195 that package generally gives great utility to a redeemer / infernus spam list. Bring a couple scouts and an infiltrators squad for objectives and then spend the remaining 1500pts on redeemers, infernus, and inceptors. Quite fun in Firestorm to let you adv and shoot str 7 rerolling redeemer flamers
@DirtyKingKobАй бұрын
Others from Nocturn!! Love it.
@NattoMeisterАй бұрын
I’ve always used Uriel Ventris with these boys.
@brohammerchris9196Ай бұрын
I've used Cato Sicarius with company heros in a WTC tournament. It was amazing for the movement jank! highly recommend!
@qqwadddamage367Ай бұрын
You guys sounded like how I felt this morning 😅 Late night? Great conversation, thanks for upload 👍
@plgibboАй бұрын
I picked up this unit as a cheap way to get ancient, blade guard lieutenant (magnetised shield to backpack), captain, lieutenant. But now planning on using them with calgar or just a captain and going in impulsor to hold a mid board objective.
@wilsimpson9170Ай бұрын
they sound like Custodes' wardens with the tankiness
@DisasterLordАй бұрын
In blood angels they fullfill the role of tanky objective holders, precision makes it really appealing to have a captain and a lieutenant attached to abuse the charge bonus in certain situations
@stanberry6798Ай бұрын
I love them, theyre a swiss army knife among swiss army knives. For 95 points you can do a lot I put vulkan he'stan in there
@TravelingAnvilАй бұрын
Having these guys hold down the on side objective seems like a legit idea. Azrael gives his 4+ invuln to their -1 would and 4 wounds each would be obnoxious to dig through. Maybe an expensive wrapper but Azrael needs to be standing out in the open somewhere.
@piotrjeske4599Ай бұрын
How do you attach Azrael to them though?
@JohnnymarzoАй бұрын
No azreal sadly
@cavedog1989Ай бұрын
But inner circle companions would want azrael more because they dont have a invul.
@timocode2069Ай бұрын
Azrael is a Chapter Master, so he can lead them instead of a Captain
@mateagleeyeАй бұрын
@@timocode2069nah he can’t at the moment rules as written unfortunately. They FAQ’d it that he could a few balance dataslate ago but then the codex disallowed it and they haven’t allowed it again since. It’s arguable that maybe they want the ICCs to fill that role now.
@masterdimsenАй бұрын
I've tried both Cato Sicarius, and Calgar on the heroes. With Sicarius I had them in an impulsor, and moved them up quickly to sit on an objective, it worked very well.
@ravenRedwakeАй бұрын
I used the captain model to make a count as Uriel Ventris because that’s the only way I can deep strike gravis armor (they should be able to go in drop pods)
@danielpaoli1093Ай бұрын
I think they are best in a Blood Angels Detachment. First and foremost +1 atks and S+2 is goming to make even the CCW something to be scared of. They also have a pretty legit stratagem Red Rampage for Lethal & Lance. I would like to say the best option is the Relic Shield Capt (because it has more atks than the Powerfist) because S7 + Lance you should be wounding 95% of all infantry on 2+ plus the once per game +3 atks and Devastating wounds. But i think another good option is Gabriel Seth. Advance and Charge is also good, however i dont think Seth is a Tacticus model so good luck for transportation (drop pod or land raider?)
@JoeyFangazАй бұрын
Cato in squad with scout could help avoid Inpulser tax to get on closest objective worst case.
@williamrincon476Ай бұрын
My favorite was before vect update a Watch master with the tomb of ectoclades, ( gives you reroll to wound on oath for whole army once per battle). So he would be protected by the company heroes and give a vect plus a better oath once per game.
@andreabonavia4163Ай бұрын
hi hello :D, i think a 10men squad of intercessors should be able to be attached to company heroes.. like the art work..banner in the middle, and for example if on objective they get a 5+ fnp..that would be so cool
@level9LabАй бұрын
oh thats a cool Idea
@labbooskil5967Ай бұрын
Uriel's Swords of Calth? 😅
@jprovorse4159Ай бұрын
Cato MF Sicarius and an LT, all in an impulsor
@swogg4586Ай бұрын
Don't Cato's guard count as 2 models which would make this exceed the impulsor's carry capacity?
@jprovorse4159Ай бұрын
@@swogg4586Cato doesn’t have a guard, that’s Marneus.
@swogg4586Ай бұрын
@@jprovorse4159 I declare oopsie daisy, my bad
@level9LabАй бұрын
This MF'r is right!
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
HELL YA, *taps the tank driver on the shoulder* HIT THE GAS we are riding with Cato!
@SanctjudАй бұрын
Auto 6 the Heavy Bolter, I don't think you get the Sustain 2 from that enhancement. It's a modified 6 and not an unmodified 6 to hit.
@thomasboudreau4246Ай бұрын
So I think im gonna try company heroes with a generic captain and I'm vanguard spearhead. -1 to hit, -1 to wound, +1 to the save (being shot outside of 12) use the free strat to sabotage the home objective, then guerilla tactics them out to strat reserve and walk in a table edge for secondaries ect
@AstartespartyАй бұрын
Steve , an Ian are you guys signed up for the league I’m pumped for it registration ends on the 10th
@bigg7379Ай бұрын
Where did you get that awesome sweater Steve? I use the champion as a judiciar for my dark angels personally.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Ya the models can double as so many different characters.
@pwootton24Ай бұрын
I run Company Heroes with Pedro Kantor and a LT.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
+1 attack for the unit is interesting....
@pwootton24Ай бұрын
@@hyperspacehobbies I really hope that they allow Apothecaries to join the Company Heroes unit
@Jason-wh7inАй бұрын
Company heroes is great in ultramarines too. Easy unit to attach ventris to and he’s giving something else deep strike. Marneus calgar is pretty efficient in this unit as well, they have all gladius doctrines built in at once, plus the victrix give them limited invuln and -1 to wound. The victrix and the company champion combine have 16 power sword attacks hitting on 2’s. Calgar adds 6 str8 powerfists and an additional 15 close combat attacks too. The shooting isn’t really the unit’s strength but its ability to take damage and be a distraction.
@RuggedtoasterАй бұрын
Honestly I like the company champion and wish that he was also a character option like the legends “company champion on bike”. +1 on advance and charge and a free heroic intervention would be cool if he could go into a blade guard squad, and he could be an alternate to the lieutenant, giving the blade guard an option to be more defensive or counter character unit
@WaaagghhhАй бұрын
I love the concept, the models, and the rules are decent - BUT what makes me sad is that we get the : Combat hero = amazing Banner = amazing BUT we get the shooters - I'd have loved seeing more of a 'command squad' feel with an Apothecary type hero in there, as then along with the Captain and or Lieutenant, it would have a great feel/vibe that ties in with command squads of old
@THEHOLYCHAINSWORDАй бұрын
I just wished they had more weapon options
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Or if it was 2 heavy bolters and 2 master crafted power swords, and a banner guy. that would be awesome
@michaelmastriano7566Ай бұрын
What about in sons of sanguinius with Gabriel Seth and /or sanguinary priest? Extra melee attacks, plus 2 str, seth gives advance and charge, then the priest gives them ap and a fnp
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Ya seth is Great in this unit, but sadly he locks you out of playing the other awesome characters. it does turn this unit into a close combat powerhouse.
@michaelmastriano7566Ай бұрын
@hyperspacehobbies I'm hoping the codex will allow him to be taken with other BA characters. I don't think any other Ba characters are particularly good tho
@crawbag0311Ай бұрын
What i WAS doing, was running Vulcan in the heroes. A big unit of infernus marines with a captain for the THEN 0 Cp strat close by. Ive done this since pariah and its ok. But now im eyeballing sticking Adrax in the heroes.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
full unit +1 to would and messing with OC is no joke. Adrax is a great choice.
@chrisprime7767Ай бұрын
I never run company heroes. They're just a bit too expensive and dont really have a good use, imo. Theyre 95 pts, when you attach Calgar or Vulkan, theyre close to 200 pts expensive. That's basically a redemptor dread right there. Id rather have a dread then T4 dudes with mediocre dmg output.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
I can see that for sure. but if you are trying to force your opponents to make hard choices this unit can pay off, also they take different types of weapons to take down.
@crazuri2Ай бұрын
Azrael can’t go in that unit right?
@curttaylor2861Ай бұрын
Im more than aware that space marines are juuuuust annoying enough 😜
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Hmmm sounds like you have some experience playing people who are proficient in making space marines annoying *glares at steve*
@Bumbaclart247Ай бұрын
I always run Calgar with them - that unit takes such a beating and can really dish it back out also
@tacotruck4x444Ай бұрын
Same!
@PowaupАй бұрын
Yup it’s the perfect combo imo. They become very dangerous in Melee if you give them Lance. It’s just feels wrong putting Calgar with Eradicators, he wants to be in combat
@level9LabАй бұрын
he is so expensive, but worth it. Ill try it out.
@Bumbaclart247Ай бұрын
@@level9Lab you only want Calgar for combat and they get them there whilst dishing some out. Calgar and aggressors is such a point investment that it’s debilitating if you lose them. Separate the two units and get two strong threats across the board
@chrisprime7767Ай бұрын
Hm, I kinda disagree, which is fine. I just think aggressors (bladeguard and eradicators as well) are fantastic units. If you add calgar to that, it makes them even better. Put a LT or a biologis in and Lethal hits will melt anything. Company heroes are so middle of the road, attaching calgar to it makes them okay, but that's basically it. A little bit of a waste for all of calgars abilities imo.
@nicklauswest9274Ай бұрын
Love these unit deep dives
@owenfarmer2591Ай бұрын
I live this unit, i have run them as a bodyguard for Ventris, a punch unit for the captain with a powerfist and the Honor vehment but I am enjoying them with Calgar atm
@aaronguerretteАй бұрын
I made a "Units I never Take" Black Templars (Rightous Crusaders) 2000pt list and I paired a Marshall (Captain) with a Company of Heros and honestly worked very well in the home objective & was critical in my Win that day.
@huskerdevil24Ай бұрын
DEUS IMPERATOR VULT!
@catherinedalzell3183Ай бұрын
I've done that as well. The captain can give them Crusaders' wrath for 0 CP and then the combat weapons on the shooty guys have -1 AP and four attacks, before you get to the chamption and the marshall. I cleared out hordes of termagaunts with the unit (they came back later, but that's another story).
@Kitbash.CarnageАй бұрын
Nice video lads
@MrTrenttnessАй бұрын
🔥🎸🔥
@JonJacobGameАй бұрын
Sicarius and heros do make a great harassment unit but it's finding a balance in when using them. Vanguard spearhead works well and you can stay out of range and capitalize on the -1 to hit. Fire storm is great when you need a +1 to hit and battle shock. But i find sicarius does better with bigger units hoping in and out of transports. it even better is it an aircraft stormraven.
@antonmorozenko6348Ай бұрын
In Crusade they got some attention, so I want to use them. Thank you for this video)
@nicoleandscottnelson3933Ай бұрын
I have company heroes and 10 on-foot death company inside a land raider
@Morkai77Ай бұрын
Vulkan!
@MG-vk9eyАй бұрын
Vulkan all the way, super hard to remove from an objective
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Totally he will tank hard and out OC most.
@nicholasd7107Ай бұрын
Great vid!
@felixguay6218Ай бұрын
I just thinking, can we put those guys in a dropod ? Is it a good plan ?
@oinkedАй бұрын
Yes, they can go in a drop pod and are the only way you can get a captain attached to a unit in one without having to sacrifice a model from the unit. I've used this to drop a heroes squad and 5man team - like internus or devastators, for solid board control.
@NaddabehtАй бұрын
I’ve never used them, but I’ve always thought of them as a cool combo with Uriel Ventris
@amituna7903Ай бұрын
Surprisingly tough to shift if you pick the right leader for them. Also I've used them once while playing unforgiven task force and they work quite nicely for that because of the ancient
@letsgetit792Ай бұрын
Calgar plus company heroes. Its 16 power sword attacks plus 15 regular combat knives and then calgar swings.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
YA that is truely beefy.
@staceyrob016 күн бұрын
Vulkan He’stan would be good. Question - could you put him in an impulsor with the company heroes? He doesn’t have the tacticus keyword. Does he get the keyword by inheriting from the attached unit?
@icebow2059Ай бұрын
Fun to get these little deep dives!
@ihavebeenblessed-d3vАй бұрын
What have you done? I want to have them now 😭
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
HAHA! all that stock in GW was paying off!!
@paulbalfour9339Ай бұрын
A nice home for Uriel Ventris ?
@tobiasnenseter8044Ай бұрын
Does "forged in fire" work with crits now? Have not played since spring, so not sure about all the updates this summer. But I am pretty sure that forged in fire changes a roll to a 6, meaning it is an modifier, meaning it is not a critical hit. Vulkan Hestan was nice with Company Heroes. Less good now as Faf can no longer use 2 immolation protocols
@JeanParisotАй бұрын
I’m using these guys in my Raven Guard crusade list buffed up with +1 toughness and the -1 to hit from VS detachment and so far they’re pretty promising.
@suleimansufianov5702Ай бұрын
If one add a leutenant with mcpw to Khans company heroes, it is possible to achieve 17 precision lance attacks for 1 cp. I wonder if it is enough to Ghazkul for example.
@ElGordoBanditoАй бұрын
Uriel Ventris likes these guys a lot. They transform him from a character you bring to use a cool ability, into a midfield bully unit that becomes difficult to shift for under 200 points. I’d take them over Bladeguard any day.
@coldsteel.and.courageАй бұрын
Uriel Ventris. He's already in my list and the squad is decently pointed since I already have the captain to slap with them.
@suleimansufianov5702Ай бұрын
I wish i could attach Ragnar Blackmane to them.
@curttaylor2861Ай бұрын
We need hyperspace hobbies merch!
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
im think socks with Ians face on them, and leather jackets, but with Ians face on them, and underwear with Ians fa... Steves face on them.
@curttaylor2861Ай бұрын
@@hyperspacehobbies 10/10 would buy
@matts8023Ай бұрын
BACommander just did a great video on this squad. It is a good looking group.
@PowaupАй бұрын
Would love to hear more about the RTT and how Ian got first
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
I played one of my Daemon lists, Great unclean One, Lord of change and Be'lakor (I just painted him so it was his first time) and a bunch of other smaller units, screamers flamers plague bearers for objective holding and move block. I played against Space Marines, Custodes (why are they so durable) and the Orks with 3x10 man squads of lootas and shock attack guns. It was a great day!
@PowaupАй бұрын
@@hyperspacehobbies sweet! Haven’t played demons in 10th but I imagine they must have a bunch of tricks up their sleeve
@rowanwingedАй бұрын
I like the look of the unit. However, mechanically they don't feel good enough. Probably would have been more fun if they behaved like a character extender like how an ancient or lieutenant behaves. Example: Captain, Company Heros, Bladeguard Captain, Company Heros, Sternguard Could limit them to only joining minimum count squads or only veteran status units. This would make them feel a bit better.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Ya a few people have said this and I agree, It would be awesome to beef up a squad, and now that the transports hold more it could totally work,
@AsgardMedicАй бұрын
You can't take them with Ragnar... WHY??? Also i miss the opportunity to take an "additional bodyguard" unit for the captain, BUT that extra unit is capped at the smaller unit-size. Then it would be fun to use
@catherinedalzell3183Ай бұрын
And you can't take them with Helbrecht either, which is also a shame.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
There are a lot of characters that seem like they should be able to join but cant. Ragnar was a shock for us as well.
@captainsebastianАй бұрын
Ive had great success with a general captain with the Blade Driven Deep from the Raven Guard detachment. Infiltrating onto an objective they are good bullies. Captains -1CP allows for AOC of course. But the Raven strategms are great; a free fall back d6" when charged, give the whole unit percision for 1 cp (with captain devestating wounds ability), and a pick up and redeploy are great!
@JohnnymarzoАй бұрын
I love them in Dark Angels gladius with the cpt. I also run 2x5 dwk and 2x6 ICC + 2 Judy and then plop 1 of each on either sides of the board. I leave the aggressor fire discipline brick behind and then put the company heroes into the middle as bait and pop tactical doctrine turn one so I can squad tactics turn 1 for the full 6". Works almost like cheating haha
@tyhar7493Ай бұрын
I use mine as a home for Uriel Ventris, it's not the optimum choice but with him the melee punch isn't to be sniffed at. The standard melee is 15 attacks off of 3 models! Plus the champion and Ventris take that to 27. If you give them honour the chapter that's not bad punch at all for 5 models. I've been tempted to put a lieutenant in the mix to give them lethal hits but always seems like too much points investment. Mostly use this unit to smack and hold a midfield objective. It's also not bad as bait, as my opponent has to commit some investment to removing them. So I run a bladeguard unit with a Judiciar and put the deepstrike from Ventris onto it. Then I can rapid ingress and set up a possible heroic intervention with the unit, having fights first from the Judiciar.
@g-monk2775Ай бұрын
I have played my last game of 40k. Not enjoying the game. Thank you for your content.
@level9LabАй бұрын
Ah sorry to hear that.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Thats to bad. hopefully you find a game that fits for you and we appreciate all your support.
@TeddybombАй бұрын
i think the problem with K Khan is that you lock yourself out of everything else SM can bring.
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Ya same with Gabreial Seth, White scars need more characters!!!!
@piotrjeske4599Ай бұрын
They don't have bikes , so l am not interested. Now lf GW returned bike command squad with similar/same rules l would be interested. But then GW would have to recreate a biker Khan/Cpt again.
@francoismarion-eu3jqАй бұрын
I like this kit. I used the ancient, converted 3 into bladeguard w 3rd party shields, and kitbashed the captain into an apothecary. They otherwise completely suck imo. Can only attach a captain, and you cant equip them how you want, too many points for what they do.
@chrisprime7767Ай бұрын
100% agree. It's a shame because the models are super cool and the unit is fluffy as hell. They're in the same category as Sternguard imo as far as usefulness goes.
@francoismarion-eu3jqАй бұрын
@@chrisprime7767 i think the sternguard are great if you avoid the combiweapons. My biggest problem there is the limitations on apothecaries and ancients, which should be able to both join the same unit, and should be able to join units with librarians and chaplains. Obviously the choice for sternguard is the librarian in a 10m with 2 heavy bolters, but really... should be able to also attach an ancient and an apothecary.