Steve goes over his tactics and a few awesome stories of when he went 4-1 in a 34 person 2 day tournament with the underdog detachment. His Imperial Fists Anvil Siege force.
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@DogmeatDied989Ай бұрын
My 7 year old roots for Steve when he plays 40K in 40 minutes
@LamentableDatasmithАй бұрын
So do I 🥲
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Hmm it does really rely on the added toughness of Gravis and the character inclusion of Gravis characters. That being said anything is possible.
@RuggedtoasterАй бұрын
Honestly good for Steve, it’s nice to hear a good story about Anvil siege force winning big.
@Sonof_DRN2004Ай бұрын
I use it all the time. Heavy intercessors, Sternguard, Hellblasters are insane in Anvil.
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
They are! It's a much better Detachment than people give it credit for!
@nathangontarz4127Ай бұрын
I can really appreciate someone playing a non-Meta list really well. It's good for the game to have diverse lists and different looks out there
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
It really is! It felt good to have the practice and creative thinking pay off!
@im_flatАй бұрын
@@spacemarinesteve6057What difficulties did you encounter with your list? Do you think you’ll be making any changes to shore them up?
@roguesaber247Ай бұрын
Im so happy to see steve doing well😢 trully the year of steve is coming ❤
@mrpicklesfulАй бұрын
I proclaim this: THE SUMMER OF STEVE
@cameronwoods-reynolds4793Ай бұрын
Hyperspace Hobbies back in action! Great video, congrats on 4-1 Steve!
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
It was so awesome!
@nicklauswest9274Ай бұрын
Sternguard could make a good impact with that group.
@Sonof_DRN2004Ай бұрын
Exactly, Using No threat too great for free with a Captain. And then also using battle drill recall is insane against monsters and vehicles. Making a Redemptor dreadnought the Oath target any monster or vehicle, it will be deleted with rapid fire range and without moving. you’re shooting, 24 attacks, 5+ sustained hits, wounding on 5+ rerolling. 6s are devs.
@daviddefalco4190Ай бұрын
Honestly, after watching Steve and Taks game on Play On it really got me wanting to try Anvil Siege. It's awesome to hear that it did well outside of a more casual environment too.
@clydepworrel1Ай бұрын
When I played Star Wars CCG my friend and I were in our teens so we had no cards, and would spend hours trying to find the off meta (didn't know that was the term at the time) plays utilizing the cards we had on hand. We would usually find something, and hilariously the next tourney they would usually errata our decks because they were seen as unfair. Finding the hidden sauce of the game has always had a soft spot for me. Way to take it to the meta Steve. You the man
@kylesteinhauser25358 күн бұрын
It’s the best part by far of builder games whether it’s miniatures or cards
@chrisprime7767Ай бұрын
This reminds me of one of my best friends, he runs the Black Spear Task Force and runs Indomitor killteams, so Gravis dudes all over the place. I'll send him this as a inspiration.
@XHobbiesPrimeАй бұрын
I was thinking that Black Spear Task Force and Heavy Intercessors and Indomitor killteams could so some serious damage.
@BadmanOfBanterburyАй бұрын
I run a similar core in my lists usually. 2 10 man blocks of heavy intercessors, one with garadon, one with a captain with architect of war (ignores cover). Adding captains to the heavy intercessor squads kinda helps them out with their issue of not being a massive threat in melee, too. Then, I like to throw another captain into a sternguard squad in a transport, for the 2cp re-roll wounds stratagem. Captain spam, in general is just great for the anvil siege force. Good stuff, Steve. There is great honour in sticking to your guns and saying "screw the meta!"
@Youschnoob649Ай бұрын
5-0 in our hearts! The people’s champion! Love it. Will be waiting to see if you’ve made this list meta now lol
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
Hahahaha, Damn that would be awesome
@Spandau-FiletАй бұрын
Great news to hear Steve. May The Summer of Steve provide you with further notches of victory!
@stanberry679829 күн бұрын
I love watching Steve, he seems like such a fun guy. And as someone who loves the imperial fists. I appreciate this video. He's given me a lot to think about. Though I think I'll run eliminator instead of eradicators
@Arizonafox0925Ай бұрын
Finally, anvil siege getting some recognition. I have received so much flak for running it even though I definitely have a good win rate with it. If you just accept that you're gonna burn your first turn by taking advantage of the assault weapons, you end up having a pretty smooth turn 3,4, and 5. Throw in some supplementary units to cover the holes in mobility, and your gravy.
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
It totally does work! People give it a bad review because it isn't easy. You have to think it through
@austibonАй бұрын
This is very similar to my casual Anvil Siege Force list, if I get some inceptors I might try this out in tournament!
@WashingtonSanchezАй бұрын
Channeling Valrak with IF
@jprovorse415924 күн бұрын
Ooowee boys… I ran my version of this, 2. Repulsors full of educators with tor and captain, 2 10 man heavy ints.. against a really aggressive space wolf army.. and it was too much for him. Victory for the gravis fists!!
@eltrowel29 күн бұрын
This is awesome. I haven't heard anyone talk about this! Very creative army construction.
@misterzealous8696Ай бұрын
I truly hate dealing with good Space Marine players because they just have all the toys and I am a simple Necron player, but Steve's excitement playing with his toys is infectious. It makes me almost root for the Space Marines. CURSE YOU STEVE!
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@Tankshock55Ай бұрын
The year of Steve plus 6 continues. Long may Steve reign.
@gigiwillliams47817 күн бұрын
This story and list is making me wanna build anvil space marines now
@lucasharsh1396Ай бұрын
I love listening to you guys. Great content. Make them longer for while we're painting.
@linkdancer3890Ай бұрын
Dorn would be proud lad
@Fire_bellied_Newt_SorcererАй бұрын
Love to see Steve win!
@chrischris1315Ай бұрын
My cousin ran Anvil Seige Force as his Crusade army at the start of the year. It was awesome, that +1 to wound on Hellblasters was lethal. Great to see Steve having some fun taking a none meta detachment and list!
@nelson5898Ай бұрын
Well done Steve
@comeonnodont5569Ай бұрын
Congrats on the 4-1!
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@enoontnatropmi7174Ай бұрын
Go Steve! Love the lists, love the energy! Go Steve!
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
GO IMPERIAL FISTS!
@paulbalfour9339Ай бұрын
This is great, as always guys! It’s food for thought and I’m glad you made a ‘bad’ detachment work in a tournament. As a casual space marine player, I’ve never tried this one. I tend to think alot of casual players, like myself, are overly influenced by pro players. If they say an army, a detachment or a unit is dead majority of players at a local level will drop them. What I’ve only just come to understand is that these guys are talking about the top 5% of players.
@Chames222Ай бұрын
gratz Steve! love the off meta stuff! keep it comin
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Thanks!
@LordBenjaminSaltАй бұрын
Heavy intercessors are possibly my favourite Space Marine infantry models in production, and usually people just say they're overpriced garbage; it's nice to know they can be used effectively 😅
@chunky078Ай бұрын
Love Gravis and would love to add Tor to my collection. Looks like I know what I need to do.
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
YES YOU DO!
@thekrispiestkreme560922 күн бұрын
Steve is the reason they made the leadership changes in the new update: a conspiracy theory
@snowbjorneАй бұрын
Good work Steve! Fun list
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
It's so much fun!!
@adammotterАй бұрын
Was great to see this list in action on Play On. So many channels playing Ultramarines/Gladius, so it was a breath of fresh air (on top of the amusingly bad rolls)
Ай бұрын
Dude... That's awesome!
@curttaylor286129 күн бұрын
Definitely played against the Anvil Siege Force, Mr. Garadon has opened just about every vehicle I have!
@hyperspacehobbies28 күн бұрын
He is sooo nasty if used right!
@pwootton24Ай бұрын
Punch up! Get it?! Cuz they’re imperial fists?!
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
You got it!
@chrisprime7767Ай бұрын
Congrats! Anvil Siege has fantastic strats and enhancements, nothing you should sleep on. I feel like all the marine Detachments are all traps in a way lol.
@cullenasaro2229Ай бұрын
I am legit starting an imperial fists army and am hellbent on using the siege force. The fact that this video dropped for me feels INSANELY targeted lol. I couldn’t find anything on this detachment.
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
Play it!!!! Live the Siege Force!!!
@cullenasaro2229Ай бұрын
@@spacemarinesteve6057 STEVE! You know it. In fact a lot of what you said in the video is the same route I was going with my list. I’m glad to hear it’s working out. The only thing I am curious about is how you delt with action based secondaries. I was thinking about throwing in scouts if needed.
@kylesteinhauser25358 күн бұрын
Summer of Steve baby
@mkminiaturesstudio6106Ай бұрын
Awesome man congrats!
@chrisattwood5930Ай бұрын
Great video! Glade to hear of your success
@JohnnymarzoАй бұрын
Hellblasters are elite in this detachment
@johncolvin275426 күн бұрын
4 n 1 speaks for itself, well done steve!
@dcb976Ай бұрын
Doing the Astartes proud, congrats!
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
I am real proud!
@Sir_Prize427Ай бұрын
Well done, glad I'm not the only anvil appreciator.
@Kalopsia666Ай бұрын
I’m playing 40K at a relatively small game store and we HAVE to play on a 3 x 3 table. That’s just my reality for now. So I played a couple games using Gladius Task Force, but kept coming up short. Next game I’m going Anvil, because the small table size lends itself to just sitting still and firebombing everything.
@angelmartinez4603Ай бұрын
Good shit Steve!!!
@shawnmcbride221Ай бұрын
Next challenge for steve is to make 1st company task force good
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
Oh my.... well... guess I have to now
@plgibboАй бұрын
Love it. Inspirational mate, this is what 40k and the new detachments are all about! Or at least should be. Leading the charge steve style!
@MrZhaolongsunАй бұрын
This is a fantastic news, I love anvil of siege detachment!!
@damage3418Ай бұрын
Good job
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
Thnx
@suleimansufianov5702Ай бұрын
Great story, i am with you Steve, with my CoR SW!
@mathourston979Ай бұрын
Congrats Steve! Well thought out and executed. Deserving of the 4&1. I'd love to see you have another go at the Salamanders' Firestorm detachment and really give them a solid playthough like you have done with the Anvil SF.
@Rasmus.ElnegaardАй бұрын
This is epic! Love that you found a way to make what seemed to be a weak detachment work. I almost want to try it cause gravis marines are cool, but it seems Tor Garadon is pretty vital and I dont play Imperial Fists, so I guess i am out of luck here 😅
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
You can totally make it work with some other stuff. Ultramarines can get is almost the same with a sub in for Calgar
@Rasmus.ElnegaardАй бұрын
@@spacemarinesteve6057 calgar would be a great substitute, but I play Dark Angels, so I am limited to a generic Gravis Captain. The models is cool, but it does not punch as hard as the other two.
@codyott1982Ай бұрын
Happy to Steve win. Everytime I've seen him play my faction of choice on 40k in 40min, he loses and it hurts my soul, and makes me angry. That isn't to say I don't like Steve. I think he's an awesome person.
@ceegronleeАй бұрын
I saved this list in my app
@scottamelvilleАй бұрын
My SM list is about half this anvil list. I've tried anvil once against Genestealers but i'll need to give it another go
@MrJDMBenjiАй бұрын
This makes me want to get into space marines 😲
@jamessouth243Ай бұрын
The reason I only play space marines 🐐
@seanfitzy2256Ай бұрын
Punches up :) pun intended? haha
@jaanoseestiАй бұрын
Well done Steve, using that strat for out-of-phase movement is awesome! Do you think that there may be life in a Vanguard Spear detachment with Shrike, instead of ultramarines, using similar tactics to move phobos units away from charges to nab objectives?
@ThingoftheDeep1Ай бұрын
Ian! Steve! Care to riff on a sportsmanship dilemma I recently faced at my local game store? I play gladius SM and I was playing a game against a hypercrypt Necron player. Long edge deployment, and I went first. My 10 man brick of Hellblasters with LT and fire discipline got a good enough advance to get an angle on one of his units of Skorpekh destroyers and picked up the whole unit (but left the Lord), my lancer and predator annihiltor also teamed up and, to a wound, killed his doomsday ark, and my redeemer vroomed across no man’s land, dumped its load of terminators, and picked up another squad of skorpekh destroyers on its own. The guy still had a ton of warriors, a monolith in deep strike, and the nightbringer, but started complaining about how my list was OP and there was no counter to it and the game was over and how could I even have fun playing such an unfun list, and he said we should just pick up and be done. I tried to say we could play it out, but he was adamant he wanted to be done so I started putting away my models. All the while he kept complaining how Hellblasters are OP and there was nothing he could do. Just as I was putting away my last squad, he suddenly asked if I was sure I didn’t want to rerack. At that point I was pretty annoyed at his complaining and that he had waited until I was done packing up to change his mind about a rerack, so I said no. Anyway, is there any better way to handle that kind of situation? Do I need to feel bad about ultimately leaving? Thank you for coming to my ted talk. Stoked to hear about Steve’s anvil weekend!!!!
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Its a hard one, sounds like you did to him what he was hoping to do to you. Sometimes you can loose in deployment and it sounds like they just didn't think about how to take an alpha strike 1st turn, like you had set up. Maybe suggest a strategy to help him. like hiding his units in a more defensive position so they are less targetable or just outflanking them if there is a for sure turn 1 threat they cant deal with. And also sometimes people are in bad moods and cant be helped. I think you did the right thing. Avoided confrontation, no need to add salt to the wound ( necron don't rust but you get it). Let the guy chill. Replay him another day when he cools off, hopefully the dust has settled. Also Hellblasters can feel OP when shooting at there optimal target. But I don't think they can actually fall into that category. Sounds like you just counter deployed and had the positioning to make the most of your stuff. well done.
@nicholasschian6651Ай бұрын
Sometimes you get lucky. Sounds like he may have 'mis-deployed' a lot of his stuff to be able to get those angles? I mean, if you put your stuff in the open and lose first turn, and get blown out. It's not your fault as the first player. He also gets a 'redeploy of a few units right?' I'm guessing that he wasn't using his own rules properly. Losing 500pts'ish on Turn 1 is really tough. But not insurmountable. He drops down the Monolith, and picks up your Hellblasters (230+95 = 325), he's back in it. Plus once he starts removing some of your more deadly threats, his Reanmiation Protocols become a bigger thorn in your side. He could totally have played it out. I think you were in the right continuing to pack up and leave. I'd usually just say something like, "I've only allotted enough time for one game today. After set up and turn 1, I don't have time to start another today." Straight and to the point.
@nickc9210Ай бұрын
Have never looked at tor garadon datasheet. What a beat stick!!!!
@nicholasschian6651Ай бұрын
The dude is absolute HOUSE vs. Monsters/Vehicles. If this were the WWE he'd be suplex'ing tanks, and Atomic Throwing them across the table. Pretty much any vehicle he touches is reduced to rubble in a matter of seconds. Ignores Cover is basically saying +1AP....since let's face it, everyone has cover, ALL the time!
@nickc9210Ай бұрын
@nicholasschian6651 I honestly get cover most of the time without even trying XD
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
And Tor deals with ALL OF IT! it's wild
@nickc9210Ай бұрын
@spacemarinesteve6057 he is kill on site in my book haha
@tommyg8570Ай бұрын
First time warhammerer here. I have started an imperial fists army simply beacause yellow is my fav colour. I have been planning something similar to this list. I was thinking about Tor+10 heavy ints. I'm guessing the land raider crusader transports the aggressors with the captain and biologis, which I also thought about. Having another two 5 man squads was also in my plans. However I was thinking one of them being regular intercessors instead? What do you think about the following ideas? - Hellblasters in a drop pod, instead of Inceptors. - Baliistus dreadnaught instead of predator. - Bladeguard veterans instead of scouts. Congrats on this sweet army.
@znalniaskasАй бұрын
Great video! Have you tried Tor Garadon with 3 Eradicators? Him also getting full re-rolls seems nice. I guess that's the nice thing, you can always switch the unit that he joins depending on the match-up.
@davey_lad_3978Ай бұрын
Please play this list on play on tabletop! Congrats Steve, well chuffed for you
@raphaellavallee7076Ай бұрын
Nice vidéo! Thx I think ill give it a try for my next crusade… whould you think adding hellblaster with azrael could be great … i only have 10 heavy intercessor right now as I play DA :)
@AstartespartyАй бұрын
Ian it’s not the summer , … Steve is life , Steve is the church of faith , Steve is everything , Steve is what we breath , steve should be the war cry of all chapters an legions …. Steve is the Steviest cal Steve . 😂🎉 my brain hurts from that . Imagine torgardon if you could put him in blood Angel detachment lmao
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Don't you mean Tor Garasteve? also I didn't get your donation to the Church of Steventology this month... that's the deal, loosing your faith?
@callumglover8413Ай бұрын
I love the list! Any chance we’ll see it on a play on video soon? Edit: it appears we already have
@DaveMcMuffinАй бұрын
I love my fists in anvil. The list I play is similar
@Rexir2Ай бұрын
Tbph, my mechanized gladius deathwatch list could function decently in anvil; lots of heavy weapons, a couple of whirlwinds and rhinos & razorbacks to carry all those marines to where they need to go
@KurtzeTubeАй бұрын
I Absolutely LOVE the concept. Heavy intercessos and gravis in general is my flavour of power armor. How do you feel about this list with Calgar instead of Garadon? Cheers!
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
Calgar instead also works!
@yvesledauphin1220Ай бұрын
I would like to see a video about the gladiators because I don't know if they are really used competitively.
@jprovorse4159Ай бұрын
🎉🎉🎉
@spacemarinesteve6057Ай бұрын
Woo hoo!
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
YEAAAAAAAAAA!
@XHobbiesPrimeАй бұрын
#TeamAnvilSiegeForce #TeamGravis
@LordOfBalIsАй бұрын
damn i wish you had some pics to show from the game :(
@tobiastrapp705027 күн бұрын
Nice one! Do you think you could play some hellblasters too?
@rickdriver0Ай бұрын
I'm curious as to what Steve lost against and how? I find the lessons learnt really interesting 🤘🏻
@smudge5Ай бұрын
So cool Steve. You're up there as on of my fave YT 40k stars!! I'm not a massive gravis fan. But love the humble intersessor and sternguard. How would you approach anvil with T4 stuff?! 🤘🏻
@chrisprime7767Ай бұрын
I was looking at it too, I figured hellblasters with maybe librarians attached to them would be cool.
@smudge5Ай бұрын
@@chrisprime7767 good shout! Some Invuln toughness with a big shooter. Might be worth a play! Hellblasters/Assault Intersessor No mans push maybe. The better combat Sternguard/Librarian could work too if they are designed to get closer. Anvil is the only ine I've not tried!
@chrisprime7767Ай бұрын
@@smudge5I was also looking at drop pods to get dudes in position, could be worth a look, for that turn 1 deep strike and then be stationary for the game
@smudge5Ай бұрын
@@chrisprime7767 nice! Would love to run a Drop Pod. I've seen a 10 man Sternguard with hq work well. Hellblasters obviously. Unfortunately heavy buff wouldn't work as disembark counts as movement? But rule of cool is so there for a pod.
@chrisprime7767Ай бұрын
@@smudge5oh yeah, the heavy buff wouldn't come in effect, it would just be a way to get guys in position, on objectives and such. Otherwise they have to run all the way through no man's land to get somewhere. Transports overall might do the trick 🤷♂️
@qqwadddamage367Ай бұрын
Steve fan in the HOUSE!!! Steve, can you let me know the rationale behind the Boltstorm Gauntlets instead of the Flamestorm Gauntlets? I think I am missing how these fit in. Thanks!!
@iikkakangas2586Ай бұрын
well you dont get sustains on 5+ with flames
@codyott1982Ай бұрын
Blood angels detachment is the best loyalist detachment. Despite what everyone says, melee is op this edition, but it is harder to run.
@SchmuvnessАй бұрын
Cool list, Steve! It'd be nice if you could tell us more about how to play that list and what you think you would change if anything going forward into pariah nexus. Will you continue playing ASF? When will you give the other cool detachments a whirl? #makefirestormgreatagain
@nicholasschian6651Ай бұрын
Firestorm is GREAT! AT least in Leviathan Mission Pack. I've had a great success with it. 13-2 at tournaments (although one 2-1 finish was 'technically Gladius pre-codex). I'm a little worried about Pariah Nexus though, as I don't usually have the room for Battleline, and unsure what to cut to make some of those missions work. Time will tell though. I'm also a little miffed about Renegade Raiders for CSM, and Bringers of Flame for Sisters basically just copying the FAF ruleset and making it 'better' in just about every way. Hoping for a slight re-write in the June Dataslate.
@Schmuvness23 күн бұрын
@@nicholasschian6651 So, how do you feel about the June Dataslate? What does your list look like atm and how might it change with the new rulese/balance?
@nicholasschian665123 күн бұрын
@@Schmuvness basically eating the points increase on the Redeemer and making the other one an OG Raider (+25/-20). About even….not much changes.
@tyleraddison9062Ай бұрын
do you think this list could work in generic space marines? since my custom space marine chapter is mostly gravis focus and ive been eyeing up anvil but i havent pulled the trigger on it yet
@JohnnymarzoАй бұрын
Also Stevey my boy why the plasma on the rep ex?
@chronos6706Ай бұрын
Haven't started the vid yet but if it's not crimson fists ill be upset
@lambey6113Ай бұрын
Where’s the astral claws at?!
@DaPaleOrkАй бұрын
Please can we see this list played on play on. Would love to see it
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
You can there is a similar list Steve Plays VS Taks White Scars. not 100% the same but close.
@nicholasschian6651Ай бұрын
@@hyperspacehobbies I believe that one is ~1,500 pts. So just short some stuff. He's missing a Repex, Predator, and I think another 5-man Hvy Intercessor squad. which is about 450pts.
@ares5273Ай бұрын
Why the Macro Plasma on the executioner over the anti tank shot
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Its Just what we had laying around.
@nicholasschian6651Ай бұрын
Macro-Plasma is still great on the Repex. HLD already having Heavy, means that IF it stays still it's usually 2's and 2's into a vehicle. So about 1.4 Successes (Hit/Wound). But Macro -Plasma does more to elites (which is kind of where Gravis struggles a bit more, as they have the higher strength/damage to punch through them easier).
@pwootton24Ай бұрын
Would you consider Anvil Siege Force if you weren’t running Gravis? I’m thinking of running Crimson Fists in either Gladius or Anvil.
@XHobbiesPrimeАй бұрын
I think the reason the Gravis works so well is because they are so hard to shift off an objective. You need units who can take and hold objectives, withstand enemy firepower and make use of that +1 to hit and wound once they are on an objective. Terminator and Centurions are really tough but don't have the Heavy profile you want for their range weapons.
@jamesloder865227 күн бұрын
So... would you like to tell us where you usually put the characters and who goes in the transports???
@RFischerАй бұрын
Which GT Steve?
@robertsurtees2667Ай бұрын
Wouldn't Calgar, and Ventris add more value than tor Garadon in anvil siege force?
@hyperspacehobbiesАй бұрын
Those characters are super awesome yes. But theres something to be said about imperial fist Tor Garadon playing his own detachment.
@jeffreyhenton2595Ай бұрын
Nerds
@ManamindEUАй бұрын
Lol and here i am at this moment painting my first boys yellow becouse i wanted to play a meme chapter with the marines from the Levia set and my Chrismas box of IF. ähh call me meta chaser XD
@ironhidehbi9145Ай бұрын
Just getting into warhammer and went with ultra marines and wondered if you play the anvil siege force detachment? If so any recommendations?
@Adamantos-EleanАй бұрын
Seems like a nice guy, he should lose some weight it would be healthy for him.