Warhammer 40k The List that Won Adepticon!

[@DefaultProphet]

Bulbasaur fucking owns bro

[@strawberrypuddin8919]

He is a pimp

[@tros5447]

Tetra's full rerolls to hit for marking is very strong.

[@FirstLegion123]

Great video gents! Your videos keep getting better every week!

[@hyperspacehobbies]

Thank you very much.

[@Tyke-Myson]

In the battle between Crisis and Inceptors, Inceptors are doing the same thing but for fewer points and normally just as well. The only real difference is that one is a known entity, and the other is an army that for most of indexhammer has been largely ignored.

[@skyeranger]

This sounds like an Eldar list, just way more tough. Bulbasaur would beat it easily though.

[@RettMesser]

Eldar would likely be stronger. Bikes for suits, wave serpents for devilfish, fire dragons for breachers, Wraithnights for Riptides, fireprisms for sky rays, etc etc

[@JRFO292]

Sooo in the shooting edition the shooting faction wins? 😲 WOW 😳

[@desertzombie]

I cant wait for the new codex. I'm glad no more triple CIB. I thought it was kind of stupid. When Ian or Mike comes over to game, I'll shoot you a msg and invite you over as well

[@hyperspacehobbies]

Oh 4 player game? Mike will probably play Tau as well haha--Ian

[@desertzombie]

@hyperspacehobbies8400 T'au vs all the heathens

[@pathartley1430]

I subscribed hoping to be the 4,000. Oh well keep up the good content!!

[@KeithMel1]

Nice video

[@spacemarinesteve6057]

Thank you!

[@hyperspacehobbies]

Thank you!!

[@Stillfrosty_Gaming]

Had to pour one out for Cyclonic Ion Blasters at Adepticon before they go the way of the Dodo. I'm already trying out new concepts as soon as the codex actually drops because there's a lot of spicy options.

[@Stillfrosty_Gaming]

I'd also highly suggest looking at Justin Cooks list. He was in the top 5 and when the codex does drop, this will be the future of Tau. He has been playing this version of Tau since the beginning of 10th.

[@admiralkun8996]

Piranhas are used to get in the oppents face turn one for movement blocking or to value trading with the seeker missiles and fusion gun

[@nathangontarz4127]

When will the Tau Codex actually drop?

[@Stillfrosty_Gaming]

Probably May

[@crawbag0311]

My sagitaur cries at the devilfish cost. Also had a maxed out unit of suits and commander with cyclic, drop an full unit of wardens with trajann with everything possible popped. Didn't matter. They got picked up. Ridiculous.

[@Optionvideo209]

To think deathwing was written along side the devilfish at the time! Those dudes never even met each other let alone compared notes.

[@chrisprime7767]

Everyone complaining about the Tau suit changes, show them this list. Nasty crap.

[@owensmith2995]

I think cyclic ions leaving suits was a good choice for the balance of the game, but losing 1 hard point, losing duplicates drones, losing support system choices leaving only one variant with an invul just feels bad. At their points they will still be good, just seems like an unnecessary change. Cyclics was the real offender idk why the rest of the unit had to be punished for it.

[@hyperspacehobbies]

@@owensmith2995 Yes the output loss and durability loss has a lot of people questioning the crisis suits, I just hope that everything else that the new detachments and starts allow them to do makes up for it. Also the points are a lot less which makes more sense. but maybe that allows for more toys on the table that shore up the lack of damage output?

[@owensmith2995]

@@hyperspacehobbies for sure! I have no doubt that crisis suits will still see plenty of play and if they stay at their current points they will be very viable although I would like to see the fireknife suits drop about 15 points. Im just sad to see so many options go. Crisis suits used to be our factions customization queens, didn’t matter if it was viable or not you could build them pretty much however you want thematically or gameplay wise and run them wysiwyg on the table. Now their choices are very very binary or even non existent. For instance the sun forge suits don’t even have options at all except do you want a marker drone on one model. I understand cyclics leaving the game, it’s a good move and needed to happen, it just feels bad having our customization queens lose what made them unique due to the sins of the cyclic ion blaster

[@hyperspacehobbies]

@@owensmith2995 I feel that. Big time.

[@drtwbuyer]

damn tau

[@RettMesser]

Crying about devilfish while the waveserpent exists. Lol.

[@jprovorse4159]

Boom first

[@spacemarinesteve6057]

First!!!

[@hyperspacehobbies]

Your faster than a Devilfish!

[@willmitchell3962]

Something worth mentioning is that luck is really heavily involved with the cyclic spam. Unless you're running horde infantry and aren't pushing them to need to shoot the hazardous profile, they're going to blow themselves up with 3 hazardous rolls per suit per salvo. Or at least, they should. If they roll hot, that one blob is going to be a nightmare. If they roll really poorly, >1/4 of their army could vanish without you doing anything. As a gameplay concept it's funny, but for competitive purposes I'm glad the unit is going away.

[@hyperspacehobbies]

hmmmm yes this is something that could cripple them for sure. The firepower is just so gross I bet most of the time they don't even overcharge with that many shots, and on some turns it having sustained 1-2 it might be enough to avoid overcharge.

[@Stillfrosty_Gaming]

When playing against Daemons, I lost 4 crisis suits in one shooting activation in game #7. It was hilarious.

[@Stillfrosty_Gaming]

​@@hyperspacehobbiesovercharging is magical.

[@willmitchell3962]

​@@hyperspacehobbies Especially with tetras giving rerolls I agree, I think it just depended on what you had to shoot at. The increased str, AP, and damage (7/-1/1 -> 8/-2/2) was pretty substantial though. Like you guys said, very little is going to survive 22 shots of that second profile with sustained 2, and the Coldstar turned that on for them turn 2. I think when the unit was a thing the average was 2 suits lost per salvo, but more or less was a lot of firepower that either went off or stayed on the board.

[@masonawsome5]

As a Tau player, you are throwing so much dice that luck has little to no effect. It is also completely unnecessary to even overcharge the cyclics and risk the suits. Luckily i just got my codex and will no longer have to own 120 dice just to run crisis suits