WARHAMMER 40K vs STAR WARS: Imperial Guard vs CIS Battle Droids - Men of War: Assault Squad 2

[@zacharyweaver276]

That gunship at the start took a lot more of a beating than I thought it would with three AA tanks focused on it

[@anthonyrodriguez8788]

Well the HMP does have deflector shields. Nothing short of a RPS-6 Rocket Launcher can get through that shield.

[@zacharyweaver276]

@@anthonyrodriguez8788 Yeah but that isn't showcased too well in men of war. Air vehicles get one shot all the time and they don't really dodge either. Basically fast and mobile vehicles aren't showcased well cause they only use their speed to get in range faster instead of racing around the battle field taking pot shots and flanking enemy forces

[@slypask9185]

The difference between CIS and Imperial Guard ? Well, one use disposable units, absolute cannon fodders wich can be considered "mass-produced" and thrown randomly at the ennemy with barely any strategy. The other one use robots.

[@birolaPássaro234]

And we also use guardsmen on an intergalactic scale, no matter how horrible and beautiful your world may be, you will be a guard with a different regiment. 😂

[@kirikamikadzuto2121]

The Imperial Guard doesn't really like to use the tactics of meat assaults, it's just the way the authors show how strong the enemy was. In reality, the guardsmen have been training and studying tactics for several years, and their main force is artillery and armored vehicles (the "Shatterers" alone are worth something, which have seismic shells in their arsenal)

[@zacharyweaver276]

7:00 chad tri-droid firing while flipped upside down

[@ngruiying1311]

Omg I thought it was dead 😂😅

[@inzyniertv9305]

Imperial Guard encounters a remenant of the men of iron

[@ThatGuyOrby]

What people often tend to forget is that for all the memes...the Imperial Guard isn't actually an expendable or poorly trained army that doesn't use tactics. They're just often poorly portrayed and meme'd on to elevate the Space Marines and their high casualty rate is caused by the absurdity of their enemies. The only truly expendable Imperial Guard regiments are the Penal Regiments (like the Last Chancers) and the ones that are unironically just gleefully suicidal (like the Kriegsmen). Conscripts also sort of fall into this group of somewhat expendables. Most Guard Regiments are professional soldiers though and use pretty sound tactics. Saturation artillery, defense in depth, trenches, maneuver warfare with tanks and armored personnel carriers, infiltration, ambush tactics, etc. They'd much rather throw ammunition at the enemy rather than lives in most cases but they tend to not have a choice. Their gear, by our modern standards, is nothing to sniff at either. For all it's derisive nicknames the standard Lasgun packs enough stopping power to shatter reinforced concrete walls, has several hundred shots per charge of its battery pack, said battery pack is so rugged and adaptable that in desperate situations it can be recharged by throwing it into a bonfire, the thing has no recoil because lasers don't have mass to generate recoil, and the thing can fire in full auto. Their standard Flak armor also covers more surface area than our soldiers get today in the real world with protection fit to ward off fragmentation from explosions and small arms fire. Some Guardsmen even get access to heavy Carapace armor which covers the full body and is basically just a step down from Power Armor in protection without the powered aspect. Protects from Lasgun fire, much more protective against concussion and explosions in general, still fails under bolter and plasma fire though. So overall, the Guard is a scary and not really expendable force. They are often mocked for their massive casualty rates but that's because they fight cosmic horrors on the daily with a gun that. while potent. isn't rated to handle a walking biological tank that can eat bolter rounds for breakfast, living green fungus creatures that just spawn more of themselves each time you kill one, space magic, or sentient robots with anti-matter weapons. Or you know...versions of themselves but unironically favored by a god of chaos. They're a good army but they just really have it rough with their circumstances and their PR isn't done many favors by authors constantly undermining known lore about the Guard just to make the Astartes look so much better (which is a lame way to go about it, you don't have to make the average Guardsman look like a toddler to get across the power of a Space Marine).

[@Shadow96545]

It's the same for droids. Although they usually provide humor, b1 droids are physically similar to a human, run, crouch, among others. They are immune to shrapnel, can fight as long as their head and torso are fine, and are not as dumb as one would think, their greatest advantage is that making them is a matter of nothing, and their price is minuscule. On the other hand, the b2 is actually physically a space marine, moving quickly and with overwhelming strength, lifting several tons of weight does not cost them, well armored and armed with cannons. Their strategies are usually the most underestimated, tactical droids proved to be better than organic generals, and super droids are on another level, they are able to calculate all possible results of a battle.

[@gabrielperez6451]

The B1 seeing the "weak astra militarum" of 3 meters (Ogryn) with a shotgun with the diameter to fit his torso and his hardened polymer armor twice as thick as that of the marines charging against him:💀

[@trixoktan4179]

It's funny that people similar thinks about CIS too. Equally inaccurate. But it is mostly thanks to Disney rewritten canon.

[@trixoktan4179]

​@@Shadow96545Space Marine for B2 would be probably to much... Firstly, most of them are bigger than B2. Secondly, Tau tried make their Space Marines version and it didn't end well. But B2 ware mass produced and CIS definitely wouldn't be easy foe.

[@zoren8208]

That musst be just like a mid summer vacation for the Imperial Guard

[@Montyandrew45]

Now this is accurate for 40k vs and Universe. Not a legion of Space Marines but the Imperial Guard fighting

[@kindasupersonic7114]

The losses the Guard would take ... just another tuesday the losses the CIS forces would take ... catastrophic.

[@alannatherson7721]

Not really, the CIS has about as many droids as the Imperium has guardsmen and can produce more of them in a fraction of the time with a quarter of the resources to upkeep. The only reason the Republic didn't drown in an unending tide of battle droids was because Palpatine was running the whole war.

[@mtnn7158]

​@@alannatherson7721 в вахе один мир в порядке добровольного призыва выставил несколько триллионов гвардейцев с снаряжением и техникой......

[@Mad_Shrimp]

​@@mtnn7158несколько триллионов человек - это больше всего населения Империума человечества в целом, вы что-то путаете, мне кажется

[@mtnn7158]

@@Mad_Shrimp это тебе кажется. В книгах несколько триллионов это даже не 1% Ваха как никак про пафас и гиперболизациию.

[@Mad_Shrimp]

@@mtnn7158 понял, нашёл подтверждение ваших слов в интернете

[@TimRobson30]

IT IS THE BANEBLADE!!!

[@codywotring8973]

It was pretty much over when the basilisks moved in. Giving the guard two predators however may have been 3000% overkill

[@michaelmagliocca9387]

Baneblades? Predator is an Astartes tank.

[@stefha6062]

Lets think about the escalation Potential of the 40k Imperium. We havent seen Titans, Elite Guardsmen or Space Marines:) And in Space: „Oh, you have a super Star Destroyer? Say hello to the Emperor Class Battle Ship. And about your Death Star…meet our special Friend Nova Cannon.“

[@Bogosbinded]

There are up to 6 Different Star Wars Super-Star-Destroyers from the Empire which are comparable to the 40k Battlecruisers Executor; Eclipse; Sovereign; Mandator; Bellator and Assertor. All of them are above 5 km in length. But their Weapons just don’t compare, WH40k is on another level. BUT I knwo someone in Star Wars not from Legends, who could be a danger to the 40k Universe. The Final Order… 10 Thousands of Star Destroyers equipped with wmd. A planet gone in just seconds, not even a minute.

[@shadowhunter343]

This feels like it should be a pretty good matchup, both are “quantity has a quality of its own” kind of armies. And tempestas are basically clone troopers in stats.

[@zacharyweaver276]

So hypothetically if the Imperium took over the Star Wars galaxy and didn't just declare all the technology there xenotech and melt it into slag what vehicles or tech do you think they would try to utilize besides the local FTL systems to avoid warp travel

[@lightnihilus]

The main Starwars galaxy of itself is bigger in size compared to the Warhammer 40K galaxy. Their are also 9 other Starwars Galaxies from Starwars Legends. It wouldn't be worth taking the Starwars Galaxy because the Warhammer 40K galaxy would just be taken over

[@zacharyweaver276]

@@lightnihilus Well half the SW galazy I know of isn't even occupied cause of the black holes keeping that evil lady trapped. Also I'm not perfect on my SW legends lore but I only know of there being two galaxies really relevant to the setting that being the main one and the one the Yuuzhanvong came from. For the purpose of this discussion I'm going with just the galaxy containing coruscant

[@LightRevan3]

​@zacharyweaver276 you mean Abeloth the Queen of the Stars/the Bringer of Chaos. While being in the Maw while being surrounded by black holes. And Centerpoint station Their are also 2 other deadly droid machine factions besides the Vong. Their are Starwars Legends videos about that you can watch. Also the main Starwars galaxy has alot of dangerous, powerful, and strange things like the Mggnal Mnggal, Space Wraiths, Starweirds In the unknown regions and in deep space. In the deep core Theirs Antimatter, Matter, Dark Matter and other things Theirs even Otherspace and the Antiforce. Otherspace is the opposite of real space its White instead of Black. It's Hot instead of Cold . And it has Cold AntiStars instead of Hot stars. It also has colored objects. It has Antimatter instead of Matter.

[@lightnihilus]

​@@zacharyweaver276Theirs alot you can learn from Starwars Legends.

[@zacharyweaver276]

@@lightnihilus I know lots of cool stuff

[@Lamentors3Co]

Guard brought the Pain! A Baneblade, Vanquisher, and Hydras!

[@KeyserTheRedBeard]

I hit your thumbs up icon on your segment. Looking forward to see your next video from you. Excellent segment, Iron Gaming 40k. Sustain the very good work.

[@IronGamingChannel]

Thanks!

[@AnthoneAnthone-o4r]

Average day for the imperium of man ahh so peaceful

[@danulogrigoryev2402]

"These tau a little bit different"

[@Blackdeath3227]

1:18 I can’t tell is that a combine in the center of those three guardsmen

[@flandrescarlet8040]

This battle looks like war of humanity against machines from matrix (Spider walkers are the reason)

[@Angelsilhouette]

It feels like you're intentionally fielding a weak droid army against 5k points of imperial armor.

[@Galdenberry_Lamphuck]

Finally the disposable factions meet.

[@ssssss-bc9hn]

По идее против роботов очень сложно воевать, ибо они тупо не способны промахиваться (конечно есть исключения: дым и пр.).

[@TheLucky38_cats]

Просто КНС дали нихуя техники, и им контрить нечем + тупой ии

[@user-Kamoza]

Дроиды модели B1( самые часто встречаемые) те ещё мазилы

[@chornyinegr]

там тупо бот тупит каждый раз, если бы играли бы люди, то тупого стоялово не было бы

[@TheLucky38_cats]

@@chornyinegr Стоялова не было бы...2022-2024 кхекхм

[@EdgeOf1996]

The cannon fodder army vs the cannon fodder army

[@shb200]

Abominable Intelligence !!!!

[@lightnihilus]

For the Separatist alliance

[@trixoktan4179]

How explain CIS to Warhammer40k guys; Imperial Guard in robotized version with few techs looking like Tau's doing. CIS also similar like Tau used allied alien/human forces (but rather didn't brainwashed them).

[@IronGamingChannel]

TAU fleet is much stronger. And super-units like their new mega superior platforms.

[@trixoktan4179]

@@IronGamingChannel But their have similar designs in land vehicles. Except hyperspace drive their technology is inferior to Tau, but still I would risk that is superior to Imperial Guard in 40 millennium. Also Separatist's tactics look like mix of both factions. I mean - I don't see anything what would be better explanation.

[@elmesiasmadeinrusia7878]

Oye porque no haces un VS entre el Leman Russ y un AAT estaría genial

[@lucofparis4819]

I have seen neither super battle droids nor droidekas? Are they unavailable or is there simply a limit you can't cross that forced you to choose between superdroids plus droidekas and commando droids? Also, no droid artillery available either? They might have vaguely looked like a worthy training target if they had access to the fully range of their ground forces.

[@Porkpickle]

40ks gun Calabars are just 10xs bigger, if they didn't build there stuff like bricks they might fair better

[@elmesiasmadeinrusia7878]

Ahora que me pongo a pensar ¿cuanto Daño hace el Tridroide? Osea en los vehículos

[@kusoteitoku1010]

Can you change the Battle ground map? I would like to see a different map 😅

[@IronGamingChannel]

Right now I have only 2 or 3 maps for massive battles like this with SW super units.

[@kusoteitoku1010]

@@IronGamingChannel ah ok,and do you loop these guys? Like, the battle goes on and more troops keep spawning,so...I'm guessing it.

[@Ferrum_]

МОЩЬ 11 СТВОЛОВ

[@AimLikeAstra]

We are his Hammer

[@zmanthemercenary5378]

No way the puny droids could kill a Baneblade.

[@qwickygamingfun171]

Loo star wars unit are ways too much resistante in this mod vs wharammer unit

[@tokabokaroblox1527]

Аххахаах, у них не было шансов))

[@TheLucky38_cats]

потому что им дали нихуя техники

[@Gaster_021]

Interesting 🤔 Quite entertaining

[@majorl33t]

Droid army never used gungan personal energy shield... unless they snuck it in one of those low budget crap cartoon episodes. Add it for balance?

[@IronGamingChannel]

Do you mean those BX droids with shields? Google it. They are lore-accurate.

[@JoysGameRoom]

BX droids used personal shields in the Citadel Resue arc of The Clone Wars. Prison planet so personal shields fit their elite status.

[@acb1511]

Nah, half of the Warhammer tech is WWI-tier, Star Wars dudes are are simply leagues ahead.

[@IronGamingChannel]

Ahaha okay

[@gabrielperez6451]

No, only the empire and orks, and even so the astra militarum has materials that are thousands of times stronger than Steel and weapons that pierce those materials, from WW2 it is only the appearance, because if that were the case, the necrons would be Egyptian skeletons with primitive metals such as copper.

[@acb1511]

@@gabrielperez6451 I meant rhombus shaped tanks, WWI forts etc. Tech design is specially made to be "retro"-futuristic.

[@gabrielperez6451]

@@acb1511 Yes, although the Empire's vehicles do have insufficient or ineffective armor, they can add thicker plates, ceramite composite armor, armor reinforcements on the wheels, etc. the reason for their simple armor is because it allows them to easily fix and customize it. (I'm not talk in English)

[@acb1511]

@@gabrielperez6451 I meant in this case not the armoring but the engine composing, like in Lemann Russ tank.

[@ВерсальГедан]

Мощь 11 стволов как всегда зарешала!

[@Liman-fn7vb]

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