Warlord Games Epic Battles Waterloo British & French Starter Big Unboxing

[@Rusty_Gold85]

I can imagine Rory McCann/Sandor Clegane"The Hound " playing the Sous Leuitenant Legros bashing his way through into the Farm Gate of Hougomount in my Peter Jackson Waterloo movie hehe

[@MiniatureRealms]

😂 That would be perfect 👌

[@miketike3246]

Folks, just want to mention - after getting the Civil War epic scale mega-bundle and painting it all up, I can tell you that you don't need to be afraid of this scale! The value in these starter boxes in astonishing. I got the $264 pre-order last year for Civil War and the box was SO huge and has SO many sprues. 3,000 infantry on 30 sprues. Just fantastic! And the fact that it's multi-basing means you can paint units faster in an assembly line fashion. And they cram a surprising amount of detail into this small of a scale.

[@cloaker2829]

how long did it take to paint?

[@miketike3246]

@@cloaker2829 A few months working on it a couple hours a day...

[@mattcappelli5822]

I couldn’t be more excited for a release. This is exactly what I want from an entry into Napoleonics. The feeing of heavy blocks of infantry matching with batteries of cannon and squadrons of cavalry... oh, my. I’m perfectly fine that one has to use a little imagination because every figure isn’t necessarily exactly the correct unit/uniform, etc. I don’t care! I just hope I’ll have the intestinal fortitude to paint this stuff up. I did preorder both starters.

[@MiniatureRealms]

You’ve described exactly what makes this scale so good. It is a lot to paint, but I’m just going to take it battalion at a time, brigade at a time, then small games can be played, that always makes me want to paint more, and so on and so on etc

[@Buzzard9499]

I was literally just thinking the exact same thing

[@miketike3246]

The ranked up strips and Citadel Contrasts are the perfect combination for painting masses of infantry and cavalry in this scale. Just give everything a white or a light gray primer coat and they're ready for the Contrasts. Also, remember that The Army Painter will be releasing their Speedpaints in March. The reviews I've seen so far have been overwhelmingly positive. Definitely check out that paint range if you invest in any of these massive starter sets!

[@MiniatureRealms]

Can’t wait to try out Army Painter Speed Paint.

[@ratelmike8825]

Lucky man Stuart and well deserved looking forward to watch this in full a bit later and give it my full attention.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you 😊

[@greywulfslair]

Thank you so much for posting this. Very excited about these sets, and really impressed by how they've done the rulebook. Feared it would be cut down or half-baked and it looks neither. Very, very well done. Looing forward to seeing the scenarios in more depth. Thank you again!

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you for watching 😊 The rulebook is great, I’m really very impressed. I did a 20 min video just on it today, will be out Sunday or Monday evening.

[@ScottMalthouse]

Agreed, it looks great. My French are coming at the end of the month.

[@wayoutwest7]

loving these videos. the painting guides you are putting out are going to be a huge help when I eventually dive in.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you, so glad you’re enjoying them and finding the useful too. 😊

[@5p3cu10]

You get some amount of miniatures in this box. I know scale is not 28mm but there is no way someone can open one of these boxes and not feel like good value for money. Great look-in!

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you. Yep loads of value, when you consider the RRP of a Brigade box of 3 sprues is £25, 16 sprues for £90 is amazing, the with independent stores doing them for £71 it’s just incredible value.

[@davekitcat8061]

Happy 100th offering! That was very enjoyable, thanks. I watched it over my late lunch break today and the Warlord email for the Highlanders and Old Guard has just dropped into my inbox so time to have a look at those.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you Dave, glad you enjoyed it 😊

[@MrBluetiger65]

I picked up both the British and French starter sets from my local game shop on Sunday. I can’t wait to start in this.

[@MiniatureRealms]

That’s awesome, enjoy getting started.

[@ratelmike8825]

Brilliant video, as always, and the section on the book was just terrific to see the effort Warlords have taken to modify the book to Epic...Please definitely go into detail of the book after youve had a chance to check that out in more detail. Terrific work you are doing here Stuart and thank you so much

[@MiniatureRealms]

I’ve got a 20 min video looking closer at the booked recorded and edited, should be out Sunday/Monday evening. 🙂

[@ratelmike8825]

@Miniature Realms excellent. Look forward to that one as well as more painting tutorials.

[@mcpanzer4637]

I though I'd leave a nasty comment about the Imperial Guard painting (/s) 43:05! Then I realized this was an excellent review, and I appreciate the time you put into it.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you, and well done for making that far in, it’s much longer than I wanted it to be 😂

[@miketike3246]

What's interesting about the 95th Rifles is that even though they're famous for being skirmishers, they are nevertheless a "linear" unit. That is, they would still form up in close line and volley fire along with the ordinary foot regiments. At Waterloo, they may have even thrown out their OWN skirmishers from their own ranks like a usual line unit would. I personally like the choice Warlord made of having them in line. They help to bulk out what you get in the smaller, individual brigade boxes they sell. I would most likely just get a couple dozen metal 95th Rifle minis. from another manufacturer and base those as skirmishers.

[@MiniatureRealms]

I don’t hate them being on the sprue, I get why they did it, and they have some good alternative uses. I’ll have to see how many skirmishing ones I need, I’m basing my Skirmishers 4 to a stand, so I might get enough from a couple of sets of Highlanders, but grabbing some from MiniFigs could also be an option.

[@miketike3246]

@@MiniatureRealms Sounds like a good plan. Oh, you actually answered a question that I asked myself this afternoon but wasn't sure...Minifigs 15mm? I've never owned any of their minis. so I wasn't sure how close they would be to Epic scale Waterloo. I guess with Epic scale being 13.5mm, you could go in either direction. Like Kallistra 12mm for Civil War, or 15mm for Waterloo. I was wondering, do you tend to like adding other figure ranges to Epic scale that are slightly larger or slightly smaller? I was really happy with Kallistra, they were pretty close to Epic scale.

[@MiniatureRealms]

I’ve got some MiniFigs mounted Generals and personalities, I think I compare them to epic in Vlog number one. I think the infantry are slightly larger, but as Skirmishers it won’t be far off.

[@miketike3246]

Oh, excellent! I missed that video, will check it out. Thanks!

[@willnixon9570]

ive watched ALL of your previous painting tutorials base on this new scale, and in tend to use them! but i would really like to see how you attempt the flags!!!

[@MiniatureRealms]

Wow thank you for watching. I briefly cover them in P2 of the British Infantry tutorial, but I may well do a separate video in the future.

[@DarkAutumnScribe]

Somehow I missed this. Reading up in it all now. Nice video. Thank you!

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you for watching 😊

[@aledroberts6580]

Great video and looking forward to my French starter box to arrive. Think the amount of figures in each starter set will be keeping us all busy for quite a while :)

[@MiniatureRealms]

Oh god yes, I have extra as well, I’ll be painting these for a long time 🤣

[@krnbrls742]

Oh yes Merci

[@MiniatureRealms]

I’m afraid it won’t let me add subtitles, I could only do this manually now, which sadly isn’t an option. Have you tried selecting subtitles and changing the language yourself, this is normally an option as KZbin auto generates subtitles.

[@Splodge542]

The advantage I see with it is the scale. If you have a ground scale to start off with then, at this scale, you can get more of the battlefield onto your available table top space. The massed look is important. There were lots of cavalry in Europe. This meant that, in open terrain, massed formations were needed. John Stallard is right on this in my opinion.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yep absolutely, I think it’s all about the concept of ‘visuals on the table’.

[@grahamfennell7081]

Thanks didn't know about tomorrow's release will get my order in

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yeah it was announced on their Blog, but I think many people would have missed it.

[@MichaelAinge]

Great video. Super impatient now

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you, and I can totally empathise, I’ve been very lucky to get all I have so far, but I’m also really looking forward to seeing everyone else’s stuff/painting/thoughts etc. can’t wait for the group to be full of peoples pictures.

[@mannschaftvonarschloch1214]

Exclusive models are a scourge. I got into Victory at Sea and ended up quitting when I found out that I couldn't have USS Arizona because I didn't know the game existed at the time the ship was being used as bait to get people to preorder.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yeah that’s rough, I’m glad the ones for these are no real in game purpose, so they’re more for collectors etc

[@ArchangelMiniatureGaming]

Fiiiinally had some extra scratch after an abysmal winter to pick up the british starter! Hopefully next month, i'll have enough for the french box, and some of the highlanders and old guard! Super excited, and cannot wait for mine to show up!

[@MiniatureRealms]

That’s awesome, glad to hear you’re going to have your hands on some soon.

[@MartynBalmbra]

Much like yourself I'm really liking this release, only recently got into it. I have a collection of 28mm Napoleonics but loving the mass look of the brigades in this scale (and the price compared to metals). Keep up the great work with the videos, i have a few to catch up on.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you 😊

[@squigs1917]

Excellent review, reaffirmed my decision to buy into this just got to be patient now and wait for my order

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you Graham, hopefully you’re package arrives very soon.

[@guillermosanchez9989]

This scale if way more appropiate for napoleonic wars than 28mm. 28mm is fine for WW2 games such as Bolt Action where combat was more micro-tactics on platoon levels.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yep couldn’t agree more, for rank and flank it’s perfect.

[@shadowcat3163]

Have a few thousand Mini Fig/Old Glory/TTG figs so while the Cav interests me not sure on the infantry until I get a sample sprue in the mag next month to compare. Cav are a tad small but not bad from what I have seen so far, and the arty pieces are much larger than Mini Figs. With the wide variety of different uniforms stacked with so many different nations they would have been better off getting closer to other lines for the cross over sales. Biggest concern is the price spike for the boxed sets. A single army box is MUCH more expensive than the original Civ War release that had 50% more sprues (Price has increased like 30% since then). So metal are still competitive in pricing and easier to dial in specific units. Sprues run roughly $10 USD each vs ordering Old Glory here at about $10.50 USD each for a single unit. Core box sets have all the extras so you save a bit and get extras but the kicker boxes are closer to matching price points. Issue is the sculpts for metal are more detailed and mixed in poses. All that being said I am looking hard at the light Cav boxes right now. Still worth looking into and it will help revitalize a dying era of wargaming.

[@MiniatureRealms]

That’s really interesting, I’ve not gone and done a huge price comparison, but I’m pretty sure they work out cheaper than most 15/18mm ranges in metal over here. Independent stores help the price as well, the cheapest is around £71 for a starter, so around $96 for 16 sprues. I get what you mean about the ACW comparison, though it’s much more expensive now compared to when I bought it. RRP£112 now Vs RRP£90 for Waterloo. That’s £4.67 Vs £5.63 a sprue, so Napoleonic is definitely more expensive. Aside from future small bits like Generals, it will all be plastic though, so the future releases are still a bit cheaper than the Zouaves etc. I’m with you though, if you can get a metal army that your happy with cheaper then I don’t blame you. Im assuming that $10.50 Old Glory unit isn’t 80-100 figures, and gun and a mounted officer though? I know it’s hard to compare individually cast 15mm infantry to strips, but personally I’d factor that into the cost. But I guess in game terms of ‘a complete unit’ I know where you’re coming from.

[@shadowcat3163]

@@MiniatureRealms rules I use a unit is 6 stands of 4 figs (Napoleons Battles), it also works out for Black Powder. While they have 80 to 100 figs on a sprue that is still 1 unit and extras. Once I get my hands on the Feb Magazine and the Infantry sprue will look and see if I can break them up into NB units. Even if I lose 20 or 30% of the figs I could still get 2 full units out of a sprue plus officer and arty. Cav are 1 for 1 so a no brainer if you want simple figs. Things will all depend on how close they are to the figs I have now. If they had not doubled the price of sprues across the board the last few years would be more likely to jump in full tilt. BA sprues used to be $6 and you could get them when they were on sale for half price around Christmas. Now they are closer to $10 a sprue and there was not the traditional half off sale this year. I do commission work and would bulk up on infantry around then for later in the year. This year I saved a hundred or more by not having that option I guess.

[@lowercentenary]

Great value for money at around 35 bucks. Not like other rippoff games charging you 150 for unpainted minis

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yep these are pretty good value, think these starter sets are a. It more though, not sure what they currently are in dollars.

[@vondorffy7123]

Thanks for the unboxing! I look forward to the report on the rulebook!

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you for watching, rulebook video will be out this evening. 🙂

[@vondorffy7123]

@@MiniatureRealms I'll stock up on my beverage of choice! :-)

[@MiniatureRealms]

😂 It’s only 20 mins this time, so a probably only one beverage required.

[@ShakosAndSprues]

As always a cracking and through unboxing video Stuart, look forward to your upcoming project blogs and progress. Agree that it would be fantastic to see a combined starter set too, something around the £50~ mark with a few infantry and a cavalry sprue per side with the new rulebook would be an exceptionally good entry into the period and the blackpowder rulesystem. Nice to see the rulebook is an actual bespoke one as described and not the standard A5 book, I think this will help new players a lot. If I had one concern with it it would be that it could introduce a bit of a "you have to have this size base" approach to the rules and introduce a bit of the rigid interpretation you see in the likes of GW games but I'd hope if the rest of the text remains as is the readers would continue to view it as a guideline for gentlemanly discussion and interpretation for an incredibly flexible game system. All round a fantastic release and I look forward to seeing where it goes, still have more than enough 28mm minis to crack on with for my prussian army but I'm sure ill get around to this oneday.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you James. You make some good points on the flexibility of the base sizes and interpretation, I’m pretty sure it’s not worded in quite such an open way as the standard rules, but I don’t think their intention was anything more than it making more sense in relation to the product in the box. Luckily I think it’s pretty well imbedded in the historical Wargaming scene that we all ‘use what miniatures we like’ and ‘base them how we want to’, some newer players might not get that at first, but not to their detriment I don’t think. I’ve just recorded a 20 deeper delve into the book, will be out Sunday/Monday at some point. I’m really impressed with all they managed to squeeze in, it’s a very ‘complete’ product.

[@grahamfennell7081]

Hopefully mine will arrive soon can't wait to get goings

[@MiniatureRealms]

Fingers crossed, shouldn’t be too long now I don’t think.

[@joken-actual]

A good update just before release which helps with the pre-planning. I agree, a starter box with two sides ready to play is the way I’d have preferred Warlord to have gone but I’ve bought both Army boxes as you have. Having played a few games of ACW Epic I think my collections will stop at the 16 regiment size (Wilson’s Creek scenario) as any more and they’re just not going to get used. I bought a Union brigade boxes which I’ve sold on because I just don’t need that many. As I use 3 bases to a battalion/regiment these starters are pretty much the full army for me and I’ll probably get the four highland regiments I need (5th Brigade 73rd, 8th Bde 79th and 9th Bde 42nd + 92nd) from the Highland Brigade box. I’ll have enough skirmish rifles and like your suggestion of painting some as redcoats for mixed order markers for the line regiments. I think all I need then are both sides generals and some limbers (they may be controversial?) and I think I’ll be done?

[@MiniatureRealms]

Totally agree on the numbers, I probably have too much of both periods now. Not sure I’m ready to sell stuff on, but I plan to build both collections slowly, building playable armies knowing I have the resources to add more units as and when the whim takes me. They’ve been quite quiet on the generals and other bits, I’m assuming it’s the one thing they’re holding back as a bit of a surprise, as it seems not having at least a Wellington & Napoleon available in the ‘second wave’ today is a bit odd, still I have my Minifigs waiting in reserve should they not turn up.

[@Edward-Plantagenet]

@@MiniatureRealms Yeah I'm really hoping they will do a characters set, suitable figures at least for Napoleon, New, Soult along with Wellington, Picton and Uxbridge etc. Not seen the included rule book yet (hoping you will do a video on that) so I can't quite fathom how the brigade commander figures are used. Normally in BP it's one commander to a brigade of 4-6 battalions but I see the Highlander and Guard have 3 in each, effectively 1 per battalion? I'm guessing either they've tweaked the rules slightly or they are just being generous giving more than you need. You could always trim the infantry sprue a bit and have a mounted colonel in with one battalion I suppose, or even keep the spare commanders for use as division / corps commanders.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yep I’m pretty sure commanders will happen, not sure when though, hopefully not too long. The officers on the sprue are very much designed to be used as brigade commanders, just in the normal Black Powder way, you just get extra because of the sprue design. Like you’ve said they can be used as mounted colonels with a little conversion. My fist command stand has two on a circular base, and I’ve converted one to look different (head swap with the Infantry officer and repositioned arm). I show them in my project vlogs on this game I think.

[@williamscottshelton945]

i got the mega bundle that was my X mas present for myself i love it! i can use the terrain for just about any miniature game i have including the ACW epic game!

[@MiniatureRealms]

They’re great sets, and the terrain is very versatile, I’ve been using it for 15mm WW2 as well.

[@jamjar3451]

This is very awesome video. I can't wait for wave 2. I'm getting very excited about my order coming. This will be a very awesome project for me to do, which I'm looking forward to. French wave 2 for me to start. Super spicy. 🌶🌶🌶🌶🦕

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thanks mate, exciting times, hopefully your order arrives soon so you can get cracking.

[@BRUSHFORSOUL]

Cool boxs!

[@MiniatureRealms]

🙂

[@buckospiffle594]

Interesting comment regarding Minifig compatibility. Would that be the really old first edition (castings came in strips) second edition (finished circa 1993 and the moulds sadly lost) or the current 3rd edition from Caliver books (ghastly imho)? The size and bulk of the figures increased with each edition. I have large 2nd edition collections and struggle to find anything to match. The Naismith 15mm were very small and may be compatible. Many thanks for your information and effort with these videos, cheers.

[@MiniatureRealms]

I have a few mounded officers/generals from the Caliver books, and they match very well (I’m personally only looking for the odd alternative General etc, not worried about the infantry, I really like the strips). They’re not the best sculpts, but that’s the kind of size. I don’t know much about the range, seems pretty old, so figured they may have been an older range re-released. I’m no expert I’m afraid, this is me getting back into Napoleonics, last time was 6mm Heroics & Ros in the 90s 😂.

[@Rusty_Gold85]

Thanks for the Unboxing . Could the 95TH be used as the 52nd Oxfordshire Light sans bayonets ? And someone explain to me what is the reason they went with 10 figs per stick and 80 figs per Regiment on 4 stands . As they come out I wish to buy the command sticks separately to thin down the size of the regiment for more and larger Corps

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yep I think the Rifles will paint up very nicely as any stovepipe wearing British (and Portuguese) troops. The bayonets are too long, but I don’t think that will matter too much once on the table. They could be trimmed, not sure if that would make the whole rifle look too short though. But I’m definitely going to be painting some of mine as Portuguese, and may well as redcoats too.

[@sgt.oddball7556]

Awesome stuff, Looking forward to getting stuck into this range myself. Plan on doing peninsular war, hoping white/mismatched trousers + more arid looking bases will be enough for people to overlook the shakos. Riflemen in line won't be much use to me. haven't seen the sprues in person yet but reckon I could cut out a few individuals from each strip and combine those with the individual riflemen from 2 boxes of highlanders to effectively double up on skirmishing rifle bases, hoping to get 18 all together, 9 95th and 9 60th, that way I can run them in units of 3 or 4. Would be interested to know if you think this would be feasible, having seen the strips in person. If my maths is correct, I would only need to cut out 3 riflemen from each strip in the starter box, 60 total + the 48 skirmishers from the 2 boxes of highlanders. enough for 18 bases of 6. Hopefully we see a peninsular war sprue sometime in the future as well, stovepipe line + skirmishing light company would be very nice.

[@MiniatureRealms]

I think just the way you paint them will have a huge effect, especially at this scale. I’m going to play around with a Stovepipe conversion, at least with one regiment, but can’t see me doing loads, especially if it takes ages. I hope we will see a Peninsular Brigade box one day, I’d certainly buy loads. As for the the Riflemen, I’ve seen them painted as Stovepipe troops, looks pretty convincing, and I can see some use as Portuguese regiments as well, so maybe that will be if use in your Peninsula project. As for cutting the strips, some will cut better than others, you will definitely lose some shoulders and elbows, you can either green stuff these back or just smooth off and hide them with paint. I’m going to use only 4 skirmishing rifles to a base, so they will go a bit further. I did it with the test stands I did for Voltigeurs and I think it looks good.

[@StormofSteelWargaming]

Great video, very comprehensive.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you 😊 Probably a bit too long because of it, but I didn’t want to do two videos.

[@Lee0568]

I build scale model aircraft and armour,mainly 1/48 and 32nd state we call the river counters.but this has really catch my attention,especially as I'm reading the Waterloo companion by mark Adkin

[@MiniatureRealms]

I really want to get that book, just so expensive everywhere.

[@Lee0568]

@@MiniatureRealms My wife had a fit when she saw how much it was,but when I showed her the ebay price,her reaction was 🤬🤬🤬,I have the Trafalgar edition as well.some great colour plates of the soldiers too.

[@Lee0568]

@@MiniatureRealms As you said,the only difference between the 95th Rifles and the 2nd KGL is the water canteen which has the initials KGL and what battalion they are. KGL 2LB love your channel,will be investing into the Waterloo box sets, Used to use the old airfix waterloo miniatures back in the 70's and 80's

[@MiniatureRealms]

I’m glad you’re enjoying the channel. I definitely get the feel from those old Airfix sets, I played with them as a kid, but never gamed with them.

[@Lee0568]

@@MiniatureRealms I had an amazing history teacher at school,he was an ex Staffordshire regiment intelligence officer,and fluent Russian linguist,we started with waterloo and then progressed onto the English civil war.we then progressed onto WWII board games,Battle of Britain,battle of the bulge.

[@Napoleon2513]

Question: do you pop those pieces out of the mold, put them on their base, and they are good to go? (Without painting)

[@MiniatureRealms]

They come on a frame/sprue, you use a pair of small clippers to remove them gently, then attach to bases. Some hobbyists like to paint their miniatures before playing, but you can just play with them as they are.

[@hissycatbuilds]

Great video, give me a good idea of what I get if I decide to dive in. =)

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you

[@danielrodriguezgallardo1770]

What other brands would match these? I guess Pendraken might be a good match for cavalry and commanders. What do you think? Would you make a video about matching this range?

[@MiniatureRealms]

Pendraken are very small is comparison, very much true 10mm, much shorter and slighter. These are smaller than most modern 15mm/18mm, though they scale quite well against from of them older more ‘true’ 15mm ranges. I’ve only had personal experiences with MiniFigs, the range currently on sale by Caliver Games in the UK looks to work quite well, I’ve got a few mounted officers/generals to boost my command and provide some variety. I have a series of project Vlog videos on the channel for this, in Vlog 1 I show some comparisons with the mounted officer packs. I can’t link it I’m afraid for KZbin will delete my comment, but if you’re on Facebook, search for ‘Warlord Games Epic Battles Napoleonic’ group, I set it up a month a couple of months back, there’s some other examples of chat about this there. I think only yesterday did someone share examples of a full infantry regiment of MiniFigs Prussians based up like Epic. I think there are a couple of other ranges that might be close in scale, but wouldn’t want to recommend anything I hadn’t seen myself. Hope this helps.

[@Jammybee]

I'm surprised they didn't reduce the distances/ranges in this bespoke epic book. I agree on the British infantry frame, would have preferred skirmishing light infantry like the French and a separate product for riflemen.

[@Jammybee]

Don't get me wrong though, I'm super looking forward to this.

[@MiniatureRealms]

They have provided changing distances as an optional rule, so it’s there. I think for me a lot of that depends on game and table size, if I’m playing a divisional game on a 6x4 then I’m likely to reduce ranges, if it’s a huge multiplayer game on a massive table I may well leave as normal, otherwise the game might take too long. Easy to change to suit needs as per game I’d same.

[@Jammybee]

@@MiniatureRealms That's cool, I always played BP with smaller figs on a 6x4 and everything halved (except command).

[@MiniatureRealms]

I’ve played around with half or cm, not sure which I prefer best. In some situations it feels perfect, sometimes ranges can feel a little short in cm.

[@Jammybee]

@@MiniatureRealms Half because using cm is heresy.

[@warpaint9385]

If I didn’t have any Napoleonic’s I’d buy these however I have plenty of 28mm and still a lot of those to paint.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Haha totally understand that, I bought loads of 28mm but realised I was never going to paint the kind of numbers I wanted in that scale - luckily for me this came along as a perfect solution.

[@Edward-Plantagenet]

Brilliant video. Subscribed. Amongst others, I had Waterloo armies using AB figures before I emigrated 10 years ago, sold them or gave them away (talk about big mistake). I am just about to take the plunge again into Naps and have even had a partial AB French order arrive. Now this WL release has come along and I hit the brakes. I was dubious at first but the sheer amount of figures and variety in these boxes (esp now the Highlanders and Guard have come out) is staggering and, as I'm very much more into playing than painting these days, these will be fine using Contrasts and highlights as your other vids show. Just a BIT concerned at the basing sizes given an infantry battalion in line would be the standard BP 24cm. The biggest tables we can use in reality are 6x4 so we try to use 40mm bases (x4) for infantry battalions or even 30mm (x4) for 7 Years War. Might need some care depending on how I decide to trim these. A 30mm base is ideal, just cut the infantry in half, but likely can fit only 2 cavalry on a 30mm base, might look a bit sparse. 40mm is ideal, 3 cavalry per base (x4) but the infantry would likely have a 2mm gap each end and those 4mm between the bases in line. Not a show stopper and probably the preferred option given the benefit of denser looking cavalry regiments with 12 vs 8. Just ordered the British and French starters along with the now up for pre-order Guard and Highlander boxes. Can't wait!

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you again 😊 The frontage is definitely something to consider, I remember that being a big discussion point in the community when Epic ACW was released last year. At the time I thought it was a bit of an oversight, but I didn’t really fully get what they were trying to achieve I don’t think until I watched some interviews about this release. The visual spectacle of the large unit was the main goal, with the obvious benefits of being able to cheaply build big armies, and some benefit from scale. This doesn’t really solve the issue of unit frontage on a 6x4 though, but that’s easily solved by just using less stands of models on smaller tables, or like you’re planning reducing base sizes in the first instance. You won’t have any issues with the Cav, they’re all individual models, and it sounds like you’re on the right track. 3 will fit nicely on a 30x30, I’m actually increasing my cavalry base sizes from 60x20 to 60x30, quite a few people are doing this as with the 20mm depth the models overhang a little. I’m not worried by the 60mm per stand for Cav, I’ll just reduce the stands if needed. For Infantry you will find you can cut the strips in half, but they will require a decent about of fixing up afterwards. The models aren’t just touching each other, they’re sculpted very much as one in some places, so you will be resculpting arms and cartridge pouches etc. just bear that in mind. I’m just going to adjust the number of stands I use per regiment in some instances, mostly dependant on scenario and table size.

[@Edward-Plantagenet]

@@MiniatureRealms Ah right! Thanks for that. Didn’t realise the figures were touching, I’ll have to look more closely. Easy to get carried away in the enthusiasm! I suppose we could fudge the mechanics we use in the other rule sets and use the standard size bases but only for lines but it will sure take out the visual appeal if we can’t show March and Attack Column. Kinda destroys the concept really. 6cm bases though I think will be very difficult on a 6x4. We also play Bataille Empire and in 15mm 6cm is WAY too big.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yep for most rule sets it’s much too large. If you can get hold of the next issue of Wargames Illustrated, it has a free sprue that you could try cutting the strips down and see how it works out.

[@Edward-Plantagenet]

@@MiniatureRealms I’m in SE Asia so getting WI won’t be easy LOL. No matter, I’ll take a close up look at all the infantry sprues, work out where they need to be cut and if it’s feasible. Using fewer bases for smaller games is possible but with just one or two bases to a battalion you lose the option to depict formations other than line. I’ll give it some thought. Thanks for flagging it though, I’d totally missed that.

[@MiniatureRealms]

If you’d like some close up pictures of the frames etc, message me on Facebook/Instagram/Twitter/email etc, all the details are in the video description. Happy to take some very close up pictures of the sprue for you you if it helps.

[@I_Don_t_want_a_handle]

Any idea why the British pack comes with la Belle Alliance? An odd choice given the French get the Decoster house.

[@MiniatureRealms]

I can only guess that they wanted to provide a smaller scenery piece with each starter, maybe with those being the only suitable sized ones. I guess they decided to go with them that way around because Wellington and Blücher met at La Belle Alliance and Napoleon used Decoster (or at least near it) as his HQ later in the battle.

[@Totabient]

Fantastic video, very interested on this. How about table size? how big the table should be to play 2-3 players?

[@MiniatureRealms]

It really depends on the size of game you’re wanting to play, rather than the number of players. You could play a very basic game on a 4x4, but it would be only a brigade or so a side. With a 6x4 you could fit a divisional sized game, and squeeze on more if needed. For larger games an 8x4, or even 8x6/13x6 would be fantastic.

[@NSYresearch]

" People who don't like [95th Rifles] them" .... Martin " little green barstewards " 7th Son.

[@MiniatureRealms]

😂🤣🤣

[@suburbiapheonix7960]

I am jealous. I have the deluxe of both on order which has wiped me out for a fair while cash wise. I will pick up Scots and Guards further into the year when funds allow. It has dawned on me what a great deal of work I have put on myself paint wise however so I think vanishing from the world for a few months might be the option I take. I think the biggest challenge will be research of the various regiments and colours involved as I still find the period challenging for that reason alone. I do live in hope of a powder and shot ECW outing for this scale later down the road. Just for now though I am making my postie nervous haunting my front door in hopes of a large box.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yep I think you will have more than enough to keep you going for a long while, and to keep you busy until you’re ready to buy the second wave. I share with you the challenges of research, I’ve got quite a few books (but they cost too), and the internet helps a lot, but I still find things I can’t easily find decent references of. I can’t link it or KZbin will auto delete the comment, but there’s a great 100 days uniform resource, but it’s all in French, so you will have to work through that. Search ‘centjours mont saint jean uniformes’. Hope your package arrives safely soon.

[@suburbiapheonix7960]

@@MiniatureRealms That was a great tip off! Thanks for the recommendation as it fills a lot of uniform gaps. Sadly still waiting for my order to be despatched. I did note that the pre order for the new boxes is until April which is quite some wait. Despite some small cost savings I am now thinking that I will wait until they are released and the first rush over as it looks like my pre order this time around will be sent after the boxed sets are released to the shops.

[@MiniatureRealms]

That’s not a bad plan. I remember my Epic ACW starter shipped on its release day (a Saturday) last year, and didn’t arrive until the Tuesday or Wednesday. They ship the overseas orders first, furthest away like Aus and US, then EU, then UK last. The idea I think is to get as many sets in peoples hands as close to release as possible. Of course there’s so many factors involved though, in the Facebook group we have for it there’s people in the US, EU and even UK with theirs already, but looks like most UK orders are still to ship. Not sure where you’re based.

[@suburbiapheonix7960]

@@MiniatureRealms I am based in the West Midlands UK. I try to make a watch list of all the unboxing videos for painting and builds but I will not indulge until the product is in my hands. This mainly because it fees like I have got the fun out of the product well before getting it. The preorder system only makes this worse. There is for me also another factor which Kickstarter is the worst offender of. When you buy anything you are excited and fired up about it. However if that product takes 3 months or more can you stay that interested? In the case of Kickstarter we are talking years in some cases. Anyone who has gotten involved with Kingdom Death knows what I am taking about. I find these two factors are now killing the hobby for me sadly so I am trying to avoid any more until my extensive stash is addressed a bit. I know if I pre order or 'invest' in Kickstarter when the item arrives it will go into storage and not to the table.

[@MiniatureRealms]

Couldn’t agree more on Kickstarters, I tend not to do them anymore. I get why companies the size of Warlord do pre-orders, they do build excitement (though I know for some it doesn’t work), but they also help give them an idea of demand ahead of sales I guess.

[@ramongraf1714]

Nice video, love to see more coverage on Epic Waterloo, the new Highlander’s look pristine for sure as well. Do you have any recommendations for matching terrain pieces? I plan to do some Land/Naval battles by adding Black Seas ships but for the land I need some more scenery:)

[@MiniatureRealms]

What sort of terrain do you prefer? Sarissa Precision have made the mdf scenery in the starter sets, and also the other bits you can order from Warlord. They usually add them all to their own website too after release, they did so with the ACW release, and added loads more afterwards as well. 4ground have a good range of 15mm terrain, but there’s loads more out there. I love Geek Villian mats as well.

[@ramongraf1714]

@@MiniatureRealms definitely picking up 1 or 2 geekvillain mats they look pristine!

[@MiniatureRealms]

I love them, some of my favourite hobby purchases.

[@peatmoss4946]

better nice to play french indian war...and french vs red coats in northern america

[@MiniatureRealms]

They would be cool releases in the future.

[@JABEXE]

Bit of an odd question, but does anybody know if these will be shipped in the same coloured plastic (i.e red/blue) or if that's just preview plastic. Can't wait to play and half tempted to get them set up ready to battle prior to painting if they are red/blue

[@MiniatureRealms]

Yes they’re in red and blue coloured plastic specifically for that reason, a homage to the old Airfix sets.

[@JABEXE]

@@MiniatureRealms fantastic news! Loving the vlog series! 😊

[@MiniatureRealms]

Thank you 😊

[@roguetrooper5401]

Damn that's a lot of plastic should keep you going for a little while

[@MiniatureRealms]

😂 yup it certainly will. I have so much stuff to keep me going that I need a super power that means I can pause time for everything else except me I my office, I’d get so much done.

[@packersfanforlife7903]

I like this new release however I still find it hard to justify £25 per brigade. If they released seperate command strips so we coul make 4 Regiments out of a box as opposed to only 3 then I don't see how it'll be great value and cheaper than say 10mm as my planned Napoleonics 10mm project has x8 regiments with 18 men per regiment coming at £24. So for me 10mm even in metal is still better value. All be it these are very tempting. If they released extra command strips on a separate sprue I would be massively tempted and have 3 stands per regiment. However as it is at the moment I don't see that they're better value for the size my project currently is. In my AWI I have x32 regiments planned for both British and American each not including Hessian and French all at 10mm and looking as the entire project at about £400 to £500 for everything. The British Regiments have 24 men, 16 line and then 4 light and 4 gren. So the British Army in my AWI can have 32 Regiments along with 8 light batt of 16 men each and 8 gren batt of 16 men each too. Bringing just the British foot troops alone at fielding 48 regiments/battalions all in 10mm. My AWI project however is a love of mine and I'm intending on doing a full AWI North American Campaign including the West Indies hence so many Regiments. I figured due to the fact the AWI is my most loved period, that should be the one I invest most of my money/time into. If they released an AWI version of these Epic Battles I would seriously consider them however as the AWI you can get away with fewer regiments. For Napoleonics though 3 regiments per brigade here on a 6x4 table, most you can get on a table is about 9 total. I prefer battles going into the teens to 20s for regiments on the table!

[@MiniatureRealms]

I get where you’re coming from, when comparing with 10mm, it’s likely that 10mm armies may be cheaper. I think this is much better compared to 15mm in scale and price, but I get that you like/have 10mm. It’s worth noting that the price ‘per sprue’ (or 3 sprues for a brigade box) is much lower if you get a starter set, you get 10 sprues of infantry and 6 cavalry I think for £90, so that’s just over £5 a sprue Vs just over £8 in the brigade boxes. It might also be worth looking at independent retailers, the starter boxes at around £70, or £20 for the brigade boxes (around £4-7 a sprue). It still doesn’t compare to your 10mm regiments, but that’s with 80 men not 18, so it’s going to be more. I guess if you work out the price per miniature the Epic would be very cheap. Not sure if they will do command strips, but MiniFigs are pretty close, so you could potentially look at buying some command and doing conversions. Either way, two pretty good options for affordable armies. I think more the point would be if you wanted to play 20 regiment games as you’ve said on a 6x4, that’s not going to work with Epic, you either need a bigger table or maybe 10 or 6mm. I personally really like the look of 60-80 men in a battalion, if Epic hadn’t come out I was going to use 10mm Pendraken, but I was planning on using lots more than 18/24 models per battalion, that’s just a shrunk 28mm look to me, but I can’t argue it’s practical for collecting and playing big games. I’ve settled for Divisional level games on a 6x4, saving the bigger ones for when I can get together with others and use a big table somewhere. Best of luck with whatever you decide 🙂 Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@packersfanforlife7903]

@@MiniatureRealms I love it and I must admit I would be tempted. And get that in terms of 15mm & 28mm they're definitely good value indeed. Compared to 10mm for the same amount of men they would be too. However I think I'm more of a, this stand represents 60 men with 4 figures haha. For small maybe little battles within big battles, i.e. Hougoumont, these are perfect and I would happily do that. Sadly I'm a sucker for epic battles where for me Hougoumont would be a small part of the battlefield. Believe me, if they release individual sprues with extra command and flank companies... I may be swayed easily as they do look amazing and I do really like them. I've spent the last two nights figuring out how I could utilise them. However for now I still plan on 10mm with less men. If the AWI comes out next... then my plans may be halted however I think the next release shall be Napoleonics Penninsular.

[@MiniatureRealms]

I think if they do Peninsula it would just be a British Brigade box, doubt they’d do more for now. I think the next ‘Epic Battles’ release in terms of a new big box rather than additional wave for this, may well be another system and not just Black Powder period, maybe something using Pike and Shot or Hail Caesar. I’d like Epic ECW.

[@packersfanforlife7903]

@@MiniatureRealms I think ECW is a great shout. Maybe eventually War of the Roses however I wait, like the Continentals did on 25th December 1776 with baited breath, hoping the morrow brings a AWI release.

[@markwarne893]

How long do you think it will take you to paint one of the armies?

[@MiniatureRealms]

I’ve honestly no idea. It will definitely be my main focus for a while, but I have other project I want to keep chipping away on, no least to make sure the channel continues to produce content for them as well. Then I have a 2yr old and a 7yr old, superb killers of hobby time (not that I’d have it any other way).

[@markwarne893]

@@MiniatureRealms Sounds as if you are going to be a bit busy. My projects are on hold at the moment due to a kitchen refit going on at home at the moment for the next six weeks. Fingers crossed I will be able to start up again next week for some priming and base coating of at least one unit

[@MiniatureRealms]

Oh that sounds like a pain, lovely to have the new kitchen, but it’s the worst room be without full use of for a while, you end up with stuff everywhere. Hope it all goes smoothly and you’re back to hobby as usual soon.

[@markwarne893]

@@MiniatureRealms tell me about it, stuff everywhere and the ceiling down ready for the plaster on Monday. At least it will give me some time to re-organise my painting station and write down the paints I want to use for batch painting :-)

[@peatmoss4946]

drool

[@MiniatureRealms]

😊

[@bickercity6392]

Extremely jealous.

[@MiniatureRealms]

😊 I’m extremely excited 😂

[@thomaswallace7577]

Is the only way to get the rules is by buying the starter sets?

[@MiniatureRealms]

Right now I think it’s the only way of getting this revised ‘Epic Napoleonic’ version, not sure if they will become available in the future though. I think there will be loads available on eBay soon though, so many people buying multiple starters.

[@thomaswallace7577]

@@MiniatureRealms thank you. I can't afford the get the starter sets. But I could get the 2 £25 Brigades to start me off. It's a bit of a let down that there's no two player starter or the rule book on its own.

[@MiniatureRealms]

I’d have liked to see a 2 player starter, I think if we did though it would probably be £90-100 anyway, just with a split of forces. Would be really cool to see the book on its own, I’m not sure they sell any off their small A5 editions for any system on their own right now, so I’m not sure we will see it. Hopefully you can grab one off someone who has more than they need.

[@thomaswallace7577]

@@MiniatureRealms just a quick update. They have kindly sorted out the problem for me. The staff was great.

[@MiniatureRealms]

That’s awesome news, and doesn’t surprise me either from my dealings with them.

[@CassyCat4]

I thought the French all carried white flags

[@MiniatureRealms]

😂 Only at the end when the Prussians arrived and the Imperial Guard failed.

[@lexchaotica190]

No Prussians or Dutch ?

[@MiniatureRealms]

Not in the British and French starters no, Prussians coming in a future release (no date yet but some 3D images on the Warlord Blog), Dutch and Belgians can be covered by painting the British and French models as them, uniforms very similar, especially at this scale.

[@burgdush1]

Why is Wellsley's title used but not the Emperors?, normal English xenophobia? :D

[@MiniatureRealms]

😂

[@zaynevanday142]

I hate the scale

[@MiniatureRealms]

Probably not one for you then 😂, plenty of others out there.

[@marianovaliente2103]

Amigos estos juegos de estrategia no los hay aqui en españa.como se pueden conseguir por internet?? En waterloo yo haria como hizo napoleon atacar Hougoumont en el flanco derecho de wellington lanzando 3 regimientos de infantería francesa 2 de infanteria ligera y uno de infantería de línea apoyando el ataque con la artillería y obuses franceses.4 baterias al menos.presionar ahi para que wellington se vea obligado a llevar refuerzos debilitando el centro. Y entonces atacar con el cuerpo de ejército de d'erlon apoyado por un fuerte bombardeo de la artilleria y la caballeria pesada detrás para explotar el exito de la infantería y romper el centro aliado.la caballeria ligera que ataque por los flancos.no olvideis atacar la haya santa en el centro.hay que tomarlo como sea!!! En el flanco izquierdo de wellington mantener el 4 cuerpo de ejército de Lobau y la guardia imperial que esta en reserva que lo apuntale y entre en plancenoit para contener a los prusianos. Podeis usar la joven guardia y la guardia media.la vieja guardia en reserva para explotar el exito en el centro aliado y acabar de rematarlo y destruirlo.dejar parte de la caballería en reserva.la de la guardia imperial que es de elite.por si hay problemas para utilizarla contra los prusianos.es lo que yo haria y me tiene dado buenos resultados.....

[@MiniatureRealms]

I think Warlord Games should ship directly to Spain, though I’m sure there will be EU stockists which might be easier. Maybe Tabletopper.nl? I know they are a large store and stock a wide range of games.

[@krnbrls742]

Ecrivez aussi en FRANÇAIS merci

[@MiniatureRealms]

You would like Warlord Games to do a French Rulebook, or you would like me to add French subtitles?