WARN ZEON XD Winch Installation on Jeep Wrangler JL or Gladiator Rubicon Steel Bumper

[@spazbyt7027]

I knew I was in for a real treat when boxs started getting slammed on the work bench. Thanks for another great video.

[@wayalife]

LOL - Glad you enjoyed it! 😁

[@stuartwilson5634]

Eddie, the manner in which you explain your installs is so instructional and intuitive. Brilliant.

[@wayalife]

Truly humbled that you would say as much and glad to hear you find our videos to be instructional and intuitive 😊

[@plumbline327]

Thank you for including the “struggle-bus” bits. Most videos (of others) usually edit the difficult parts out. I have ‘21 Gladiator Sport with an economy steel bumper from Barricade and economy Harbor Freight 12k winch. As this one wears out and my “Mod money” builds, I will go for the Warn. Thanks again for your fun, educational videos!

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you could appreciate the struggles that are all too real with an install like this.

[@stevestearns7037]

Haven’t had a Jeep since 2006 and miss it everyday. Love the videos and updated Eddie! Just need some new wheeling vids

[@wayalife]

Sorry to hear you no longer have a Jeep but glad that you enjoy our videos none the less. I'll see what we can do about getting more wheeling videos going.

[@KevinSmith-wr1sy]

Masterpiece! This install video is 100x better than any other on KZbin. Just awesome.

[@wayalife]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@northwoodslife5964]

Having done a few winch installs in my aged years. Install the fairlead, and feed the line, BEFORE you install the bumper. I can't tell you how many times I removed the bumper to install the fairlead. Love your content and videos! Great job, Sir!

[@wayalife]

Unfortunately, you cannot install the fairlead first. Doing so would put the bolt heads for the fairlead in between the bumper and the winch plate and that would prevent you from installing the bumper. The bolts NEED to go through the fairlead, facia plate, bumper AND THEN winch plate for a proper installation.

[@ralanspring]

@@wayalife I was wondering the same thing, but forgot about the winch plate and needing to put the bolts through that. Thanks for the explanation.

[@jaimelopezjr9369]

Hey I'm a new watcher! I've just discovered you and watched 2 years of content in like a week😂😂 keep up the good work and the 2 door red jeep jl is my favorite chanel topic!

[@wayalife]

Thanks! Glad you're enjoying the channel.

[@regnar19881]

Thanks for the install video! I'm planning to get this exact same winch over the winter. I just bought the front & rear Maximus-3 recovery loops.

[@wayalife]

Glad we could be of help with our video.

[@helodriver20]

After watching this, I’m so happy our JL X with Extreme Recon came factory with the Warn. It was effortless! Lol.

[@wayalife]

LOL - I guess I missed the part where this looked hard to do. That said, nothing wrong with not having to do it 😎

[@brian2359]

Great video! You need to get some wire and wrap the threads of the bolt and leave a pigtail so you can fish the wire through the hole followed by the bolt. These wire thingys usually come in a trailer hitch install kit where you need to fish a bolt though the frame.

[@wayalife]

Yup, that would do the trick

[@ballze1779]

I like your attention to detail and absolutely enjoy watching your video's.

[@wayalife]

Humbled that you would say as much and glad to hear you enjoy our videos!

[@richardagostino5085]

Been watching since 2011 always great content

[@wayalife]

Thank you, we're happy to hear you still enjoy our videos 😎

[@WreckedBrewery]

Another great video! Thanks for sharing! I recently installed my new bumper and winch on my '24 JLUR. Having the winch definitely helps give some confidence that in the event, you'll be able to help yourself or others out. Cheers!

[@wayalife]

Glad you enjoyed the video

[@alfredneuman1179]

very nice mate! I have my warn for the last 6 month sitting in my garage shelf… when I get around to put it in I will go back to ur vid! Keep it up! added complication is that i also got the warn solenoid… and since i am in Australia and the gladiator is right hand drive, my battery is on the other side of the engine bay… its gonna be fun 😅

[@wayalife]

Oh boy, that would make the install a little tougher for sure but I'm sure you can make it work. Best of luck to you.

[@JeepAndThings]

Thank You so much! When I did my XRC (NIB from 2010 long story) on my 4XE, I ran the power cables over the top of the air filter cover. I love how you covered every step. I'm changing my cables under the front of the airbox if my 21 4XE has room (kinda tight).

[@wayalife]

Glad you found the video helpful!

[@azrwilkinson]

Love that the dog gets involved!

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad that you enjoyed seeing Ripley 😎

[@michaeldriggers474]

You have such great videos, really enjoy all the content

[@wayalife]

Thank you. Glad to hear you enjoy our videos!

[@jrmotorsports5532]

Great timing on this video as I have a winch and plate that I will be installing soon. Much appreciated!

[@wayalife]

Glad I could help!

[@bullwinklejt7072]

Super easy install and very clean look! I’m liking it! 😎

[@wayalife]

Glad you like what you see and yes, install is much easier with this new ZEON XD 👍

[@TwoFeatherChannel]

I agree, I stick with Warn.

[@wayalife]

For more than 20 years now, it's the only brand that I have seen work time and time again. This as opposed to all the other winches out there that I have seen fail time and time again.

[@trynsurviven2440]

Considering what that winch does for you the price isn’t that bad. Thank you for sharing this I found it very interesting.

[@wayalife]

I think so too. Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@mikepierson3097]

Great video guys. Wish my rugged ridge bumper was that easy, looks like Warn did a nice job designing that plate. And, wow, you got the rope in the drum pretty easily! I wonder if they made the slot just a smidge larger? 🤔 Nice job 👍

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you enjoyed the video but no, the slot was just the same size way too small. It was still a pain to get in or at least, in my opinion.

[@w0wsuchdoge]

i've built my JL similar to you guys using these videos. you guys have great taste in jeep parts. i recently adde a LJ to the fleet and would love to see you guys take on a modern TJ or LJ build.

[@wayalife]

Congratulations to you and glad you find our videos to be useful. As far as a TJ or LJ goes, been down that road 20 years ago and bummed that we sold it. Today, people just want way too much money for them but if a good deal comes along, I might consider it again.

[@GisonLee]

Eddie, I think I am going to have to buy the metal bumper from Mopar to install this winch. Great detailed installation. Thank you.

[@wayalife]

Glad to hear we could help out with this video.

[@ranarch]

Always a very interesting informative video. Thank you for posting. I'm looking forward to upgrading my winch!

[@wayalife]

Glad to hear you find our videos to be interesting and informative. I hope you get your winch sooner than later 👍

[@maxvanrunkle1052]

@Wayalife thank you for the super high quality video tutorial!! Very educational. I am a fellow Gladiator owner (2020 model with zero problems) so this is helpful for when (I am late lol) we install a winch on our truck.

[@wayalife]

You're too kind and I'm glad that you find our videos to be educational.

[@kimos_jtfreedom8448]

Awesome install video. One tip would be to remove the bottom clips except the far right and left clips from the grill so it makes removal of the grill much easier for the next time you need to remove the grill.

[@wayalife]

Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@TimChenevert87]

I run a lifted '23 Toyota 4 runner on 33' falkens but still watch you cause you're just that great!

[@wayalife]

LOL - I am truly humbled that you would say as much. And, for whatever it's worth, I got my start in an 88 4Runner way way back in the day. Toyotas are great trucks.

[@TimChenevert87]

@wayalife nice! Yes so far so good 20k miles & nearly paid off. I traded my '18 Jeep JL wrangler last year for it had 60k miles not a single issue. Appreciate you again for all the info on everything.

[@DeanJohnson67]

as someone with one of those cheaper product lines I 100% AGREE with your logic. I only offroad 2 weeks a year and thats on fire roads and some easy trails where winching would be very unlikely. That said I have pulled 2 cars out of the ditch here in Illinois during snowstorms, OH and I use it to pull my boat dock up out of the river in the back yard every october :) so the $600 has been worth it so far ;) ok back to the video ...

[@wayalife]

Awesome and like I say in the video, you should aways do what you think is best with your money and your Jeep 👍

[@martyf663]

Fantastic level of detail....thanks for sharing!

[@wayalife]

Humbled that you would say as much! 😊

[@akbooman]

Very informative! Where was this video when I installed mine on my 21 Gladiator?!! Lol 😂!! Only question is what did you do with the factory wiring you took off the bumper?

[@wayalife]

Sorry, I should have added it in the video but there are holes on the winch plate that you can push the tabs back into. Or, you can just leave it hanging inside the bumper as it's not going anywhere and you can't really see it.

[@ss84human14]

Good install mate, appreciate your how-to demo 👍

[@wayalife]

Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.

[@Good-luck-Jonathan]

When I did my Zion platinum, there was no space as you mentioned. It’s big. They have you grind the corners of frame rails. I went with the Grimm winch play over the Warren one because it was not as bulky and lighter just for preference. I modified the holes to give me some more room to winch to plate a little farther back towards the grill. I changed to the 2024 because I like the way it looked and it has some better spacing to mount the witch so I was able to avoid grinding the frame which I did not want to do with the new grill. It was a snug fit, but it worked.

[@MoviesSam]

I just watched every minute. Great video. Thank you.

[@wayalife]

Happy to hear you enjoyed it 😎

[@romex66]

nice video mate... but i have my 3cents to add :) 1st thing. use impact sockets... 2nd thing. add a cutoff switch for winch. 3rd thing. assemble the part with fairlead and install a rope at the beggining.. its much easier to proceed later :) keep up the good work :)

[@wayalife]

LOL - of course you do. 1st thing, yeah yeah. 2nd thing, I was just trying to show the install like WARN says to do it in THEIR instructions. 3rd thing. You cannot assemble the fairlead first. The bolts NEED to go through the fairlead > facia plate > bumper AND THEN > winch plate. Installing it first would sandwich the fairlead boltheads between the bumper and winch plate (instead of having everything flush against each other) and that would prevent you from properly installing the bumper. As far as the rope goes, it's kind of hard to spool it on the drum without any power. Yeah, it can be done but I didn't think it was such a bad thing that I didn't. But then, that's just me.

[@fwschnaar3179]

As always… And Again # FirstClass 👍💪

[@wayalife]

Glad you enjoyed the video, appreciate the feedback!

[@cvee]

Great video! Also thanks for the SEMA content!

[@wayalife]

Happy to hear you enjoyed both! 😎

[@davidkirschenbaum829]

As always a great video - one note can you replace the screws that held the plate where the winch goes to plug up the “holes” I think it looks a bit better that way if it is possible.

[@wayalife]

Yes, you certainly can .

[@ctascmercdoc]

Just got done doing this on my 2024 Gladiator Rubicon X with steel bumper. Just curious as to why you didn't mount the plate and fairlead to the bumper before installing. I found that way to be wasay easier than cramping my fingers afterwards. As always you guys provide some awesome content! Keep up the awesome work.

[@wayalife]

Installing the fairlead first would put the bolt heads for the fairlead sandwiched in between the bumper and winch plate that would lead to an improper install of the bumper. The bolts NEED to go through the winch plate first > then bumper > facia plate > AND THEN fairlead for a proper installation. If you look carefully at your winch plate or even on this video, you will see that it has holes specifically for these bolts and so that ALL the pieces in question sit flush with one another.

[@ctascmercdoc]

@wayalife Roger that! Did not notice that. My winch plate was open around the fairlead area. Now that I think about it, this would explain why I see some flexing when I cinch in the line. Thank you much for the response!

[@LenSilvester]

To make the fairlead install a little easier on the fingers. Can you take the 4 bottom winch bolts out and the winch can be wiggled around just enough to get your fingers and wrench in easier from the back side. Then realign the 4 bottom bolts and retighten.

[@wayalife]

You can but the amount of space you gain is minimal and you run the risk of the nuts in the base of the winch from falling out in the process. They are infinitely harder to get back in especially with rope on the drum.

[@markfritch4955]

Great vid, enjoy all your stuff. Any reason not to install the front plate before putting the bumper back on? That looked like the hardest part.

[@wayalife]

Installing the fairlead first would put the bolt heads for it sandwiched in between the bumper and the winch plate and that would prevent the bumper from being properly installed. The bolts NEED to go through the winch plate first > then bumper > facia plate > AND THEN fairlead to allow everything to sit flush against each other.

[@markfritch4955]

@ Ah… gotcha. Makes sense.

[@socratesliriano9852]

Great video as always. Question? How come you went for the 10S instead of the 12S on the Gladiator? I thought that for the Gladiator because of the extra weight compared to the JL you need the extra capacity, PS. I finally got my New 2024 JT Rubicon X and installed the Accuair suspension, all thanks to your videos. Again, thank you for the great content which every time I'm doing any mods, I look at your videos first

[@wayalife]

Typically, you want to install a winch that has a capacity roughly double the weight of the vehicle it's being installed on. Even at the high end, that would only be 5k for a Gladiator and so 10k is right for the job. And technically speaking, you could run a smaller winch so long as you make sure to use a snatch block as that will double your pulling power. The biggest problem with a bigger winch is that it's also BIGGER and harder to install, especially in tight spaces like between the frame rails.

[@KarlJames-u7w]

On the fairlead installation. Tack weld the bolts to a screwdriver at an angle. Put bolt in and tighten nut. Then bent screwdriver back and forth until it snapps off.

[@wayalife]

That's a good tip for anyone with a welder.

[@tomf3969]

Great video......the only thing that would make it better is more Ripley!

[@wayalife]

LOL - Happy to hear you enjoy seeing Ripley and glad that you liked the video 😁

[@gilbertferguson1685]

Nice work Eddie you make it look easy. 😎

[@wayalife]

LOL - well, to be fair, I did have a bit of trouble with the fairlead bolts.

[@gilbertferguson1685]

@@wayalife been there, but you hung in.

[@everrolmalcolm2933]

❤ WAYALIFE is a professional 👌 of explaining how to work and installing add ons on your jeeps so easily. 💯👍👍

[@wayalife]

Truly humbled that you would say as much and I'm glad that you find our videos to be helpful 😊

[@markrigney4372]

I realise you're probably sponsored but you should look at the yankum ropes fairlead. You get rid of any metal and just use an eye splice and soft shackle to make connections. If you're connecting to something with sharp corners then use a shackle obviously.

[@wayalife]

LOL - you realize wrong and maybe I'll buy and give them a try in the future. Thanks for the recommendation.

[@markrigney4372]

@ 😆✌🏻👍🏻

[@johnnychun59]

I was thinking that you should have mounted the fairlead on the bumper before installing the bumper on the Jeep. It would've been a lot easier. And then you would've only had to feed the rope through once. 😊

[@wayalife]

LOL - I would have if I could have but unless you know something that I don't, it would be impossible to install the fairlead first. If you did that, the bolt head would sit in between the bumper and winch plate and that would prevent the bumper from being installed.

[@johnnychun59]

@@wayalife 👍 Got it.

[@johnnychun59]

Well I'm glad that I wasn't the only one to make this incorrect observation. 😆 A couple of weeks ago, I mounted my new Superwinch on my LJ. But I just used a winch plate that mounts on top of the factory bumper. So my install was not the same as yours. Still enjoyed the video. 👍

[@willwilliams141]

Thanks for another great video.

[@wayalife]

Glad to hear you enjoyed the video 😎

[@philipllewellyn8930]

Awesome video. Thank you

[@wayalife]

Glad you found it helpful.

[@thebigdog7406]

Awesome video, My only question is in the majority Europe you have to run a front registration plate and I'm not sure how it can be possible using this Winch?

[@wayalife]

As I mention in the video, the winch plate comes with a provision to install a license plate on it.

[@thebigdog7406]

@@wayalife Thank you I must of missed it

[@ArkLeaf73]

Great Video...how much front suspension "sag" do you notice with the winch in the front? did you have to adjust with spacers?

[@wayalife]

Typically, with any winch, you can expect about a 3/4" sag and a set of coil spacers of the same height will correct it. I have not made any corrections or at least, not yet and mainly because I always felt that the EVO coils I have sat a bit too level. As in, I think with a slight rake, my Gladiator looks better.

[@craftyfalcon2024]

Would it have been easier to mount the hitch front plate before installing bumper back on instead of trying to fiddle with it afterwards? Just a thought

[@wayalife]

Installing the fairlead first would put the bolt heads for it sandwiched in between the bumper and the winch plate and that would prevent the bumper from being properly installed. The bolts NEED to go through the winch plate first > then bumper > facia plate > AND THEN fairlead to allow everything to sit flush against each other.

[@boxwell2010]

Doing a frame chop stubby bumper with the Warn M8274 on a jl here in a few days

[@wayalife]

Nice

[@skyepilotte11]

Nice clean install...thx

[@wayalife]

You're very welcome and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!

[@saljablo2767]

Like and a comment before I even watch. Love you guys and your videos.

[@wayalife]

LOL - well, I hope you enjoy it.

[@onebridge7231]

Badlands! 👀

[@wayalife]

LOL - Like I say in the video, AWESOME! You should always do what you think is best with your money and your Jeep 👍

[@martinklaus2203]

You should test Come Up winches. I think you would change your mind.

[@wayalife]

I highlighted Come Up back at the 2017 SEMA Show kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIO1e2OimrBmaLs While they might be fine, I personally prefer to use what I've come to trust and for well over 20 years.

[@bobbyt6360]

Going to be replacing front my bumper and adding a winch. Is there anything I need to add to the front end for strength? 2018 jlu. Thx. You rock! 😎👍🏻🇨🇦

[@wayalife]

Not sure what bumper you're wanting to run but your Jeep should be fine as is.

[@mrjeffry25]

I feel the struggle on the fairlead 😂 I used magnets loos amazing

[@wayalife]

LOL - that's probably the hardest part of the install. Magnets would have been helpful for sure.

[@mrjeffry25]

@@wayalife I did struggle I think you made it in your third try I dropped the bolt like 25 times and in one lost it and had to buy more lol

[@wayalife]

LOL - oh man, I laugh only because I can totally understand.

[@mrjeffry25]

@@wayalifehey let me ask your expert opinion on those adapters for the oil like the famous Baxter Performance where you can use a oil can instead of the media. Have you experienced dry starts i our jeeps? I am new to jeep and indeed I hear those dry starts so I ask since you are so experienced on jeeps. Thanks

[@wayalife]

@@mrjeffry25 My opinion is that if it really was so necessary, Jeep would have put it on at the factory if only to help prevent warranty claims. Me personally, there is just way too much nonsense that's constantly being pushed on social media as being "necessary" and it's a shame that so many people buy into it.

[@shibbyjeep98]

What size, grade, thread pitch are the fairway bolts you used in place of the Warn supplied ones?

[@손정민-v8k]

Awesome Outstanding job thanks

[@wayalife]

Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@obrianmcc]

I've been running Warns VR EVO 10S for about 4 yrs without fail ... my honest question is what's specifically between the two models that I should consider spending the additional $1600.00. Are the Zeon's that more reliable? .... I assume the Zeon has a greater duty cycle than the VR's? ... again I've never had one fail, so it's naturally a harder sell for me vs someone who has had a bad experience with the imported VR.

[@wayalife]

Honestly, I would just keep what you've got especially since it's been working well for you.

[@ponsukpodsuwan]

Thank for your

[@chrisgill7824]

Watching this hits me in my PTSD. I wish I knew how easy it it's to remove the grille that looked like it makes a huge difference. I installed the older 12-S winch on my 24 gladiator about 5 months ago. It was a absolute nightmare by myself. The worst part was putting the bumper back on, somehow the frame rails are just a little bit wider on my Gladiator meaning I had to literally kick the dang thing on. Then those fairlead bolts... My hands are big and that was a nightmare in itself. It's on though and has been used several times, and I wouldn't have another brand. I have the same Factor 55 hook in red, it's great too. The only thing I'd do different is have it installed at a 4x4 shop instead of messing with it myself.

[@wayalife]

Removing the grill is definitely a big help but even with that, a 12k is a bit big for just a Gladiator and I can totally see how you would have had such a problem getting one installed. I feel your pain.

[@halxen]

Great video as always. I have one question and one suggestion if you want to pass it along to anyone you may know at Warn. Is there any practical reason for leaving the zipties installed rather than just cutting them off once you've got it loosely bolted in-place? Warn should laser cut two small holes in the front of the bottom of the plate aligned with the fairlead mounting holes so that you can easily stick a wrench up from the bottom to hold the bolts while you tighten the capnuts.

[@wayalife]

You can cut the zip ties, I just didn't bother. And yes, hole for a wrench would be super nice to have.

[@halxen]

@@wayalife I just rewatched this again and noticed another question; what was the reason/purpose of removing the Christmas tree connections for the fog light cables? and/or was that cable secured some other way or rerouted? I'm assuming the motive was so that the cables weren't sandwiched between the mounting plate and the bumper? I'm planning on getting a Zeon XP 14-S and have been debating on using this mounting plate or the Rockhard4x4 mounting plate for factory steel bumpers. Big thanks for the wealth of info you provide. I'm off to watch the rest of your SEMA coverage.

[@wayalife]

@@halxen I do apologize for not addressing the fog light wiring harness removal. Others have asked about this as well and you are correct, it is to prevent it from getting sandwiched between the winch plate and bumper. The winch plate has holes in it that will allow you to reattach the christmas tree.

[@halxen]

@@wayalife awesome, thanks for the clarification!

[@alderusdmc]

Would it have been possible to attach the fairlead to the bumper before attaching the bumper to the Jeep?

[@EverydayATV]

I was just going to ask the same thing 👍

[@wayalife]

You cannot install the fairlead first. If you did that, the bolt heads would sit in between the bumper and winch plate and that would prevent the bumper from being installed.

[@Bizill75]

Anger issues with all the slammin' of gear. LOL.

[@sergeantram1205]

Sick!

[@wayalife]

LOL - glad you enjoyed the video.

[@saljablo2767]

Never clicked so fast.

[@wayalife]

LOL - I hope you find the video to be informative.

[@pedromassabie3600]

Nice videos, I think that the lead and the plate bracket could have been installed on the bumper before placing the bumper back on. Then you wouldn't need the tiny hands. :)

[@wayalife]

You cannot install the fairlead first. Doing so would put the bolt heads for the fairlead in between the bumper and the winch plate and that would prevent the bumper from being properly installed. The bolts NEED to go through the winch plate first > then bumper > facia plate > AND THEN fairlead to allow everything to sit flush against each other. The line cannot be reeled in unless the winch has power.

[@pedromassabie3600]

@ lol that’s why you do the videos!

[@seanedmunds9219]

Shopping for a winch now for my JL. Is there a reason not to put the face plate and fairlead on the bumper before installing it back to the Jeep?

[@wayalife]

You cannot install the fairlead first. Doing so would put the bolt heads for the fairlead in between the bumper and the winch plate and that would prevent you from installing the bumper. The bolts NEED to go through the fairlead, facia plate, bumper AND THEN winch plate for a proper installation.

[@seanedmunds9219]

@@wayalife thanks for the answer.

[@DaFonse-l6o]

I know this isn’t the best place to ask you this, but the other day the stereo system on my 2019 Jeep Wrangler JL went off and came back on. Normally it does this when I have my phone charging straight from the USB or any of the USBs on the vehicle. So what I do is charge it from my dash cam power plug that has a slot for USB. The dash cam power cable connects to the lighter. So when this happened I quickly got nervous as this is the first time it has done this. Long story short, not long after that I started to get multiple messages: auto park disabled, auto start disabled, service air bags with the air bag red light on, and it keeps saying that the driver’s seat belt is not plugged in when it is. I disconnected both batteries and left it a few minutes disconnected and reconnected it again hoping it will fix the issues and nothing. Have you experienced this before? My Jeep has 59670 miles on it and recently I put in new batteries as the factory battery went bad in mid-20ks and the ones I replaced it with went bad 2 months ago and it always goes bad when the auto start kicks in, which I make it a habit to turn it off whenever I start it. I also want to AutoZone to see if there’s any codes and no, no codes.

[@wayalife]

Please post up this question on wayalife.com

[@apexjeep8861]

25:00 I use a pen magnet or pocket magnet when I’m faced with issues like this I put it on the back of the bolt and push it through with the magnet or have it in the hole waiting for the tip of the bolt to touch the magnet so I can slowly pull it though

[@wayalife]

Yup, lots of ways to make it easier and something I would have done as well had I not gotten it so quickly.

[@nikolayjeep]

Super 🤘👍💪💪💪

[@wayalife]

Thanks! 👍

[@tmar9159]

18:23 What was the purpose of separating the wire from the bumper, by pulling the "Christmas Tree" push tabs? Was that really necessary, and did you just leave that wire loose, or did you re-fasten it?

[@wayalife]

The wire will get in the way of the winch plate and bumper. There are holes on the winch plate that you can resecure the christmas trees into but I didn't really see a need for it as it wasn't dangling down and out of the bumper or anything.

[@EddieSprouse]

Do you ever put a battery disconnect on your winch installs?

[@wayalife]

I do not.

[@Kamchatka_Inside]

Nice 👌🏼🔥

[@wayalife]

Glad you liked it!

[@marcwolfson2179]

why not install the fairling and license plate mount before putting on the bumper back on?

[@wayalife]

Because installing the fairlead first would put the bolt heads for it sandwiched in between the bumper and the winch plate and that would prevent the bumper from being properly installed. The bolts NEED to go through the winch plate first > then bumper > facia plate > AND THEN fairlead to allow everything to sit flush against each other.

[@充电壳]

35:37, when you start using impact, a bolt fall out😂

[@wayalife]

LOL - clearly, I didn't thread that bolt by hand as much as I should have.

[@michaelkimmey8182]

Is there a reason that you didn't attach the fairlead to the bumper before you installed the bumper?

[@wayalife]

You cannot install the fairlead first. Doing so would put the bolt heads for the fairlead in between the bumper and the winch plate and that would prevent you from installing the bumper. The bolts NEED to go through the fairlead > facia plate > bumper AND THEN > winch plate for a proper installation.

[@berkanosowilo3712]

I went with the Superwinch, will it mount to the Warn plate?

[@wayalife]

Yes. With few exceptions, pretty much any winch will bolt up to any winch plate.

[@tfcooks]

WARN ZEON. Take a walk on the wild side. 😉

[@brianhernandez589]

I'm curious. What was the purpose of uncliping the fog light wire loom from the bottom of the bumper? Is it left to just dangle there? You didn't show it being secured in any way. Doesn't that leave it exposed to chafing?

[@wayalife]

I apologize for not showing it on the video but the wiring needed to be disconnected so that it doesn't get smashed in between the bumper and winch plate. There are holes on the winch plate that you can re-plug them into but really, it isn't necessary as the wiring is still tucked up in the bumper and not dangling around.

[@brianhernandez589]

@@wayalife 👍

[@Frostytravels]

do you like Warn? We have an Openroad and love it. Never had a problem, I had a friend who had a problem with his Warn. Tainted me.

[@wayalife]

Like I say in the video, AWESOME! I have no doubts that there are tons of people just like yourself who will swear by what they chose to buy. Me and in the over 25 years of doing this Jeep thing, I have seen way too many non-WARN winches fail and when they were needed the most. I personally cannot say the same about WARN but again, that's just me.

[@Frostytravels]

@@wayalife I agree with you on experience make a difference. I have only owned a Jeep for 2 years and I am the first to admit I went with the cheapest option. I am looking at a Warn now and have friends who really like them. Here in Florida we hardly need much more than a slight pull to get out of most boo boo's. My wife and i do hunt a lot out west and will be taking our Gladiator next year, thus looking at a Warn. Since my first experience with them, may have been just my taking someone's word, I have done quite a bit of research and Warn is indeed the way to go on serious winch needs. Thanks for sharing this video helps me make a tough decision and install tips.

[@LOLewie]

Why wouldn't you install the fairlead before you mounted the bumper???

[@wayalife]

LOL - Why wouldn't you try reading some of the comments before posting up your question??? If you had, you would know that I have already answered this question multiple times and that installing the fairlead first would put the bolt heads for it to be sandwiched in between the bumper and the winch plate and that would prevent the bumper from being properly installed. The bolts NEED to go through the winch plate first > then bumper > facia plate > AND THEN fairlead to allow everything to sit flush against each other.

[@LOLewie]

@@wayalife Gotcha... I wasn't going to read 170 comments.

[@cmh2111]

@@wayalife You might have explained that when you were struggling to get them through the hole. Would have saved you answering so many commenters. But then again comments are good for your ratings.

[@navseal345]

👌

[@edspecht5181]

What happened to the wiring harness that you unclipped before reattaching the bumper?

[@wayalife]

I apologize for not addressing it in the video. There are holes on the winch plate that you can press the christmas tree tabs back into.

[@PaladinJSR]

Why did you connect the winch directly to the battery? I see others connect it to a switch controller or solenoids.

[@wayalife]

I would never pretend to know more that what others you have seen do but this is how WARN says to do it in their instructions and I tend to trust them. I should also note that it's how I've been doing it for well over 20 years now and have never had any problems or issues.

[@sundayjones5785]

Have u ever changed an alternator for a 2018 jeep wrangler 2.0L JL?

[@wayalife]

Sorry, I have not.

[@cmayer26]

Is a 10 k winch enough for a Gladiator?

[@wayalife]

Typically, you just need a winch that is double the weight of your vehicle. So, yes, 10k will be plenty and a snatch block will help even more

[@adamedgar5765]

Why dont winches run the power through a relay and fuse?

[@wayalife]

Because it need direct power from the battery.

[@Joey-PotsandPans]

Is there any reason to connect a cut off switch?

[@wayalife]

You mean other than do what everyone on the internet will tell you? No. In the over 25 years of doing this Jeep thing, I have not seen a need for one but then, what would I know.

[@AriffAffendi]

sweeeettttttt

[@wayalife]

Glad you like what you see 😎

[@dennispeltier6142]

😊😊😊😊😊

[@joeshmoe8952]

Anyone know if those Jk jeeps with LT engines experience any problems? like AFM or DOD issues.

[@wayalife]

I run an LT on my JK and definitely had some problems early on but most of that was a result of a wire that got chaffed. Once fixed, everything has been running good.

[@joeshmoe8952]

@@wayalife That’s great to know, I appreciate the info. Thanks

[@jackbriscoe1504]

Dumb question, has anyone tried putting the fairlead bolts through the plate and holding them in with a bit of duct tape and then putting the bumper and plates on?

[@wayalife]

Not a dumb question but I don't know if you can do it like that. The bolts NEED to go through the fairlead > facia plate > bumper AND THEN > winch plate for a proper install.

[@unmachinist]

surely you could put on the fairlead before you put on the bumper lol

[@wayalife]

LOL - surely, you have never installed this winch on a factory steel bumper using the WARN winch plate. Because if you had, you'd know that installing the fairlead first would put the bolt heads for it sandwiched in between the bumper and the winch plate and that would prevent the bumper from being properly installed. The bolts NEED to go through the winch plate first > then bumper > facia plate > AND THEN fairlead to allow everything to sit flush against each other. But hey, don't let me get in the way of you showing off just how smart you are on the internet 👍

[@LukeEdward]

Whaaaa!!?? No 8274? .. . Kidding.

[@wayalife]

LOL - I actually have an 8074 on my CJ-5, the original WARN winch.

[@Madmike908]

Chrome socket on an impact…

[@wayalife]

LOL - yeah yeah, heresy, I know.