WARRIOR in Burning Crusade Classic: Is It Any Better Now?

[@tailez606]

Timestamps! A bit late, but better than never! 0:00 Intro 2:00 Warrior Overview 3:40 What's New? 5:42 Leveling 6:40 PVE - Overview 8:42 PVE - Fury 10:31 PVE - Arms 12:45 PVE - Protection 15:30 PVP - Arms 18:15 Tier Gear 19:57 Is It Any Better?

[@JGuz40]

A real hero thank you

[@herrmannnachnahme9456]

20:11 THE MACRO

[@WillEmmo]

thanks again so much! I totally forgot to go back and do the others ones, actual goldfish tier brain here

[@Adroyo]

Gj

[@mikcon63]

I haven't watched the video yet. I predict this is a 22 minute and 21 second warrior main emotional support video.

[@theoneandonlyAeth]

Warrior main? You mean soon to be hunter/warlock mains?

[@JarrodShadowsonng]

@@theoneandonlyAeth I for one welcome the simpler life of spamming shadow bolt from a distance ☺️

[@Tooxie11]

Warriors will be completely fine in PvE and great in PvP. Y'all just salty

[@theoneandonlyAeth]

@@Tooxie11 Oh they'll be fine, there just won't be room for many in a raid and currently they're the most played class by a huge margin.

[@Tooxie11]

@@theoneandonlyAeth sure.. but that goes for rogue and mage too. I don't really understand the warrior hate when A. Rogues may not even get a single raid spot and B. Mages go from 5 or 6 to 1 as well.

[@EdBurke37]

Man I can't WAIT for the "Is It Any Better: Death Knight" come Wreath Classic. That class really came up from nothing!

[@spegmatica]

The expansion could’ve been renamed wrath of dk. If they don’t do some hard fix on them when/if it goes into wrath or everyone with the prior knowledge is simply going to reroll. I know my arse will be

[@--46200]

I'm 100% rerolling just cause my main on retail is DK

[@EdBurke37]

@@--46200 I love DKs but my Wrath memories are all tired up with my Prot Paladin.

[@krexolsen3692]

DK is so good in wrath, it is my main on any private servers

[@cristhianmlr]

Wreat?

[@shadowhisper070]

0:41 top right corner there's a little guy peeping

[@drainzs]

wow

[@hado33_]

I think TBC will surprise us, we are 100% going to see 25 man melee cleave comps from some of the speed run guilds, they have been talking about this on their streams and in their discords.

[@gishathosaurus6828]

Merciless and Vengeful look so fucking badass on the warrior...

[@FionaCannon]

Thanks for these videos WillE! They've been super interesting and informative, plus something to absorb while we all wait patiently for a release date!

[@Demondog62]

Warrior: “no more play?”

[@Wepospalient]

Warrior: From main to pvp alt, that's how TBC launch will go for me.

[@tynao2029]

once warrior crafts deep thunder/stormherald its very fun to roam around with epic flying and gank people. Of course everyone will have epic flying now because no gold squish

[@esaesaeesaesa]

Pretty much the same for me. Maybe by tier 6 some of us manage to lobby a raiding spot as fury warrior. On launch I don't expect to see that many fury warriors due to high supply of players.

[@brandonlindley8697]

Warrior: From main to main to main, not stopping till I kill LK

[@robbruh1661]

hope u go tank then lol

[@brandonlindley8697]

@@robbruh1661 nah I'm dpsing all the way through. Of course for dungeons I will tank, I'm not a "LF1M tank Brd hoj&sgc res" warrior ya know

[@linkerss]

with you brother

[@gintamah]

Same, brother

[@skankhunt446]

@@robbruh1661 Good guilds will stack furys in tbc and in wotlk :D

[@ChillnkillGaming]

great video! Personally planning on making lionheart versus the mace. With seal twisting still in the game, Turbo clean looks like a whole lot of fun! See yall in tbc!

[@wkndwarrior3532]

Im thinking of doing the same...sword still viable for Arena!

[@wisniamw]

Great video man, one thing you are missing from PvP part of the video that I found is sometimes important: each PvP set have some bonuses on gloves towards certain spells, like reducing cast time etc

[@ephemispriest8069]

You're going to need to do priest at some point gnome.

[@xxFairestxx]

Something has to be last. Cmon man don’t be daft.

[@goldenmemes51]

Priest and warlock when

[@WillEmmo]

Soonish™

[@jeroenvanduijn2680]

bald man was summoned.

[@cristhianmlr]

Summoner was balded.

[@MyTomServo]

Fury really likes mace smithing for dragonstrike also... your video showed the fury warrior using it but it wasn't flat out said lol

[@Tagadarealty]

Furry warrior are so useless in TBC...

[@JI-yd6fb]

@@Tagadarealty what about now

[@Tagadarealty]

@@JI-yd6fb It was ironic, I've played warrior for 15y...

[@bisalissy3846]

"I got that makro that makes Mr. Kitty go BRRR!" - Summary of the TBC PvE Meta

[@xLarsson1996x]

Been a warr tank my whole WoW life (16 years) and been eager to get back to the full prot meta, even did the Rank 14 grind as impale prot which worked exceptionally well tbh. Now guild wants me to to go arms for TBC. Almost lost interest for the game completly, only log in cause of friends within the guild. I have barely no excitement going for TBC. Good video Willie, those sweeping strikes rotations may be what keeps me playing the game. Looking forward to the next video.

[@Zinkx.]

so does that mean you have another prot war tank??

[@wisniamw]

so you losed interest becouse people asked you to go arms or what

[@xLarsson1996x]

@@Zinkx. Yes I do :P The second one I use only if my main already is saved for a raid.

[@xLarsson1996x]

@@wisniamw Pretty much. I've never found any long term enjoyment as DPS in previous expansions. You charge in and smash buttons, try to do bigger crits than before. Tanking brings so much more to the table and challenges you in a whole different way. The responsibility of tanking excites me and how a tank can turn the table of a fight/encounter.

[@wisniamw]

@@xLarsson1996x tbh you could describe like that most of games (smashig buttons), I know tactics for DPS come to live really at the cata exp. But I get it about responsibility, that make much more sense :)

[@fdajax5107]

What's the combo he used at 10:45?

[@SirSpycrab]

im so happy i discovered this channel for myself, your videos are nice and clear cut

[@Nastruuuuu]

YESSSSS priest next?:^)

[@ephemispriest8069]

He better not gloss over smite after all this other shit.

[@GamingDualities]

@@ephemispriest8069 or the power of Night elf priest. Star shard and ellune's grace can be used in shadowform

[@1un4cy]

Mana battery and aoe? yes

[@lexif.8609]

Rofl, that excellent transition, I pressed like immediately.

[@axuh382]

In a few months: [World] [Furywarmainforlyfe]: LFM GRUUL'S LAIR DST RES 1/25

[@RealLazy00]

I always loved the playstyle of 2h dps. Even 2h fury was more than acceptable in Classic. Now I get sweeping strikes, sword spec, and a half second Slam. TBC is gonna be hella fun for me!

[@KaeptnBolle]

Swordspec is not the way to go. Skill 40 points into fury and you will love it much more. You can also use Landsouls spreadsheet for more info.

[@DriftNick]

@@KaeptnBolle You would be going arms if you want to play 2h in TBC and get a raid spot.

[@Poillip]

I like how honest this is, while still trying to alleviate the super negative hype warriors are getting.

[@daskaliber]

11:47 what ability is he using can anyone explain? he is facing 4 mobs but there are like 12 yellow damage numbers going up in one or two globals. how did each mob get hit 3 times by a special attack? what attacks are these?

[@Iranex1]

He popped Sweeping Strikes and most likely used Whirlwind. SS makes any instance of a melee hit also duplicate to nearby mobs, and WW hits every mob once. So WW ends up hitting every mob like 5 times each because each hit is spread over all the mobs. SS is a very fun ability lol

[@Bitznobobs]

Hey Willie. My main is prot, 2nd MT in my guild, not full t3 yet though since i feel like its kind of a threat loss, forced to wearing most of the ”threat” gear like girdle of the mentor etc. My question to you though is, do you think the dreadnaught set will be used all the way to 70? maybe even pre raid bis? i only got 6 pieces of the set but maybe i should get my hands on the full set then? considering of how good it is as mitigation gear. Or will it be replaced by dungeon gear super quick?

[@Guildelin]

I love as he said "king of the meter" and he shows a tree druid

[@videos8159]

For people who watch it now a year after tbc launched: they are still rly good tanks. Much easier to heal compared to paladins. Trust me I should know as a raidhealer

[@ELiAdaKInq95]

Ok those slowmo whirlwind crits really conviced me to go warrior :D

[@TheAckeePlant]

Holy fuck WillE at 97k, I remember when I subbed at 41k not too long ago!!

[@647586]

It's clear to me you in fact know how to transition to the actual video perfectly

[@FIASCOGAMING]

Minor note on the PvP spec- you should probably swap out 1 point of 2h weapon specialization into blood frenzy. 2% damage increase while deep wounds is active (should be active a vast majority of the time you're on a target) is more beneficial. You will be using 1H+Shield a lot of the time vs rogues and other melee trains on you and in 3s/5s where you will probably have at least 1 physical damage partner.

[@FiftyKcal]

Great video mate! Can't wait for the Priest one :)

[@SaarimaaSauli]

There is going to be insane competition on cloth and mail gear if people go with the class stacking. Should be very easy to gear up your warrior in the future, if you get a dps spot. I think the "problem" is that Warrior just scales most from gear and stats, so with the removal of world buffs and all the potions you could have, they take the biggest impact.

[@samuelcastillo8725]

Just brilliant. INCREDIBLE VIDEO MAN. Keep it up!!!!

[@NextG666]

Damn that gnome was hard to find this time. I had to slow down the video to 0.5 and suffer through Willie's drunken voice during the entire intro to spot it.

[@Oberon621]

liked and subbed for that transition

[@oinchadoomandwolfboy]

Have you tried picking up Mace Specialization? That chance for +7 rage every hit seems to increase your dps overtime. You don’t get Rampage, but the class also feels better to play. I want to hear your opinion on the matter. I don’t play warrior at all but I’ve seen someone talk about it in a video.

[@Harok9]

What was this website where u could check the population on the servers.

[@olivermohos5940]

What passive makes you retain 25 rage upon stance switch not just 15?

[@smiIingman]

While i love warrior and smashing things with a beefy 2Hander i never really got good with warrior in Wrath, i doubt i'll be any good in BC with it. I'll probably either go with my mage or level a paladin.

[@littleDainolf]

Prot leveling is the real deal. You have talents to reduce rage cost of all offensive skills and devestate damage is flat and only scales with half weapon damage. Therefore a good weapon is not needed. Proc weapons are pretty useful.

[@DreadGroove]

Having skipped classic but being curious about tbc, I kinda fancy going arms warrior pve. I wonder how much that will gimp me.

[@SurvivalGames1]

slam warrior, its nice with a sword, i played it some years ago on a private server

[@jesse-got-dolphins-into-heaven]

i never parse for poo and im almost bis for fury, i did not even know what it was until late p3. i do enjoy piercing howl too, i use it on gluth to keep my pali threat tank alive from the trash skelies, im trying to get my 8/9 of t3 so i can tank in tbc.

[@peterkent6250]

@wille your comments on taking DW over rampage and the reasoning was spot on :D no one uses rampage and its only part 2 !

[@maximeforest6052]

I love these little skits

[@Mike-vs1gf]

I'd say they are pretty clearly better in PvP. The way the talents get rearranged, which willi commented as odd for the sweeping / death wish swap, are actually the dream for arms pvp. You net death wish, 10 seconds off of intercept, tons of rage from second wind while being kited, and 15% stun resist from iron will. Plus spell reflect... TBC truly perfects classic arms warrior for pvp, and without these talent changes, it would definitely be a lot worse. Also, i think resil just helps them in general since they are always taking damage.

[@tynao2029]

yeh, and you can actually have a very good chance to win fight vs. Mage in TBC, as opposed to classic where even a lower geared mage can totally destroy pretty much any warrior. Getting a the Stormherald and stacking it with mace spec is also key for arms warrior. Warriors get improved survivability, anti CC, tuns of big 4-5 second stuns and rage generation

[@MewcePewpz]

great content as always, thanks for your work!

[@JayceWasHereMC]

Love what you do man!

[@TheJer0s]

so if I play warr wanting to both pve and pvp arena, I could go with arms specc and what bs specialization?

[@djackd]

i hear all these warnings about raid spots and being less good but i cant help but feel drawn to level a warrior, even if a main rogue has so much room for pvp shenanigans

[@DavidM-hz6rd]

Wow those tier set bonuses are pretty terrible.... Regarding slam, does anyone know if will no longer reset swing timer in TBC? Otherwise it would be kind of crap, even with the new talent change...it's one of the main reasons we don't use it while leveling in classic.

[@DriftNick]

It still resets swing timer in TBC, the only change is damage doesn't push back the cast.

[@sperwergames9370]

Shield slam after block proc. Tier 5 ain't that bad.

[@crazyredweazel]

"since when does a class gets to be the best for an entire duration of a game" maaaaaggeeee

[@kallmannkallmann]

In sunwell No proper guild use mage for more then buff/food dispenser...

[@seanwilliams7655]

@@kallmannkallmann mages during SW are still not terrible. It's not like they're boomkin level bad. Also, that's one raid compared to the entire life of the game. That's probably one of the only times in the game where somebody might serious think "nah, I don't want a mage here". If I could only play one Class from Classic to Wrath, it would be mage.

[@altf4gaming637]

Warlocks have been OP for FAAAAAAAAR longer than mages.

[@skankhunt446]

@@altf4gaming637 but warlocks are shit in tbc

[@BuzzzdLightyear]

That transition after the first scene lol

[@Troopertroll]

0:29 "Warlock 10k Shadowbolt Crits" ©️

[@markbay9275]

The intro is fucking gold, man.

[@quinn562]

Although I like T4 and T6 over T5, all the warrior sets out of BC are iconic af

[@raylador1900]

All the PvE wars outr here crying while I'm just hyped about arms arena.

[@VoermanIdiot]

Unless they have changed numbers around a whole lot, Prot PvP is definitely a thing in TBC. Shield Slam hits like a truck with PvP gear when you've finally gotten a few stacks from Devastate on them. Maybe it was just a thing in a few patches, but I very much vividly remember facing a LOT of prot warriors in Arena, and played one for a long time myself.

[@DriftNick]

If you are facing a lot of prot warriors in TBC arena you are playing at 1600 rating.

[@dontberash]

I needed this video.

[@erejnion]

Is the place WillE is hidden any better now? Yes, yes it is.

[@caseirl]

Currently trying to decide if I should stick with the tauren war, or main the human for tbc... hmm. Stay horde for the imbalance meta or stay alliance to actually be able to BG for tokens =/

[@johanlangstone3344]

Same! Leveling pally atm, might rock the tauren for broken pvp tho

[@JoshLineberry]

I think I'll be swapping to alliance tbh.

[@caseirl]

@@JoshLineberry yeah im torn.. people i played with quit anyway. think i might wait and see how bad the "meta" actually becomes for the game

[@whattheegad]

If you're not going to talk about Warglaives in the Rogue or Warrior sections, maybe you should do a separate video talking about them. Not sure how long that would be, but it'd be nice to do a compare/contrast thing.

[@Malinkadink]

Very few people will have them as the drop rate is pretty low though way more will have them in classic TBC vs retail because illidan will be on farm as soon as BT is opened. That said its rogue prio, rogues best spec for pve and pvp both use swords while you bring 1 arms warrior for pve and they also want to play arms in pvp so glaives dont make sense for them. Yes if there's a fury warrior they'd want glaives, but its better on a rogue so unless the rogues already have them in the guild you'd be dumb to give them to any warrior first.

[@NormFC]

Did you change how you do your sound?

[@anon7661]

Been waiting for this bad boy of a video

[@poppy1x3]

Another thing to add: Warrior tanks will be great at holding 1 target, however the issue will be trying to tank more than 2 targets. You have zero AoE threat generation, thunderclap and cleave are capped so especially paladin tanks will outshine by far. Impossible to hold threat from a seeding warlock.

[@tynao2029]

yeh, warrior tank is basically nonexistent past Kara unfortuntately. The biggest part other than lack of AoE threat is the lack of dmg. Over the course of a fight any Druid or Pally tank will do 3-4x more damage than same GS prot warrior in the same fight

[@niki75]

Man oh man oh man oh man. I cant wait to get curbchecked by Stunherald warriors in BG's. Such skill

[@PsyrenXY]

The hunter using their sword as a gun made my soul leave my body

[@nadnerb117]

spot on voicework, WillE

[@devonchafe2764]

Loving this series, super excited for classic tbc! Now that the pleasantries are out of the way, bald man react when????

[@devonchafe2764]

Well that didn't take very long

[@bjornvahlberg3474]

Spellreflect at alar made me top dmg dealer as tank. You can instakill the pheonix adds in last phase

[@alexmoosmann89]

Here I am 9 hours after the release of the vid and I didnt make it through the intro yet cause i couldn't find the gnome. I hate you xD Nvm got it

[@keyblades2]

It feels like we just got TBC classic. Time flies friends. CHERISH IT

[@mannyjimenez72]

See WillE vid, immediately click :)

[@scottglajch1555]

The biggest nerf to warriors? That not once was the word "zug" in this video :-)

[@oreledoria2537]

Would fury protection be a good way to level? Maybe arms? Or just straight protection?

[@Ghalion666]

I don't remember spell reflect ever preventing any damage from raid bosses. It would always fail to reflect AND do full damage to you. Heck I don't think it worked on many 5 man bosses either. Was really disappointing

[@MW-ty5zw]

Illidari Council's Judgement would like a word,.

[@deuxexkane2659]

I'm looking forward to go back to sword n' board , intervene and devastate. Just as in Classic , I will keep it my alt and leave the raiding at the beginning to my warlock... Until some tank quits and it's my time to shine!

[@vaughan3974]

played tbc hours on ends, can comfortably say prot warriors are by far the best pve tanks, period.

[@HolyHole01]

Can't wait a priest video :)

[@shinon748]

Illidan Sheer for warriors? Paladin: say hello to Holy Shield.

[@milanvukic6881]

Paladin tanking ilidan ahhahahah nice one dude

[@milanvukic6881]

Shity trash tanking class on tbc

[@naquan59]

3:00 well not really willy but real vanilla rogues did better then warriors for like 60% of vanilla. it wasn't until late aq40 where fury was buffed to being the best melee dps.

[@spencerkimble3824]

Technically, enhancement shamans with the rend world buff and dragon slayer benefit more than any other class.

[@peterkent6250]

plot twist, warriors are regular top dps in tbc now because theory craft and fight set up.

[@gnarrlly]

been waiting on this gem, thank you wille

[@maapaa2010]

Yo WILLE quality of your vids is so high now. Guess you have an editor on tap now lol ;)

[@andrewshandle]

Blizzard needs to change the charge animation to the buggy Intervene animation in this video. ;)

[@maskedbandit9990]

Warrior didnt drop a bunch of spots, everyone else just caught up

[@Nelorose]

Nice avi

[@Degeneracy420]

Sounds like debuff bitch talk

[@salt_vendor_bill1624]

The salt is real. Enjoy being shit for a year.

[@keenzo1998]

Nah it does way less damage now lol

[@zwojack7285]

Copium

[@krunyec]

I just played on a private TBC server just to play warrior. Because as I remembered they were top notch. But I had to find out the real truth, that noone needs a fury dps, literally noone. They get better by the end of the content, but early on you will be a lonely warrior if you are not a guild main tank...

[@Halfgnomen]

Imagine chasing parses instead of memes

[@gamersrevenge6528]

Can't wait for the hunter one

[@Llando]

Wait wtf?!? that night elf warrior with white hair looks exactly like me !

[@herdent1957]

Amazing intro :D

[@pwnocchio2954]

we use a new client. maybe because of this it will work overall a little bit better for melee dps?

[@domagojskalec4377]

Last time I was this early Warrior was still good

[@landofsyn2980]

They are top!! Remember play a class now for a top class in wotlk ;) lol

[@Bigginzz]

@@landofsyn2980 how good is dps warrior in lk?

[@varro3847]

@@Bigginzz With ICC/RS gear, pretty crazy with Armor Penetration.

[@PsyrenXY]

@WillE to transition from the bit to the video proper, maybe a quick catchphrase soundbite from the game, like Taliesin and Evitel's "Knowledge is Power" from Khadgar. Grab a voice line from Classic WoW and trademark that shit

[@CMorpheus59]

3:01 *laughs in Warlocks*

[@ffarkasm]

Either the *tooltip* of talent or the debuff of *Blood Frenzy* is wrong. The talent says _increases all melee damage_ while the debuff says _increases all physical damage_ . Even in Vanilla-Classic many players use these interchangeably which is a big mistake. For instance retri paladins cause significant part of their damage as melee but not physical with seals while hunters cause physical damage, but not melee. Which is the correct one? I bet the right is the debuff tooltip, not the talent. Can you confirm it?

[@cgirl111]

Run to the tank has been raiding (or dungeon) 101 for 21 years since EQ launched. How can people in this game still screw this up?

[@geoffreybentley5619]

Rampage will never be taken