Warriors & Kings | Senator Josh Hawley | EP 361

Ep. 361
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Missouri senator Josh Hawley discuss his new book, “Manhood,” and break down the importance and depth of the biblical ideals that have shaped society - and particularly the west - in a historically unprecedented manner.
Josh Hawley is a constitutional lawyer, the U.S. Senator for Missouri, and the bestselling author of “The Tyranny of Big Tech.” His newest publication, “Manhood: The Masculine Virtues America Needs,” is available now and seeks to defend the positive and necessary attributes of masculinity across leadership, governance, and the everyday structure of American life. Men of character are needed for a civilization to thrive, and today's America, the west, has openly sought to destroy the foundational and biblical principles that create them.
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(0:00) Coming up
(0:14) Intro
(1:08) Illustrative stories
(5:15) The motivation to write Manhood.
(8:03) Maternal and paternal tendencies
(11:27) The burning bush, rowing, what manifests to you
(14:45) Responsibility, meaning, mentorship
(17:08) The most powerful thing in life
(18:08) Sacrifice and hedonism
{20:28) When we come to master ourselves
(21:36) Games, pharaoh, and ordered unity
(23:45) Foundational morality in the biblical tradition
(28:03) Replacement for the central unifying narrative
(31:30) Our tradition, and why not to leave it behind
(33:17) The historic argument, the 1619 project, Wilbur Wilburforce
(36:17) The obligation of the Brits, raising the world
(38:07) Breaking the hierarchy of gods, mirrored messages
(42:19) Genesis, order from chaos
(44:08) When you remove biblical ideals
(45:10) The four horsemen of atheism, Sam Harris
(47:07) Unmoored rationality, worship of the whim
(48:22) French revolutionaries and the enlightenment
(50:37) Presuppositions in science
(52:38) Standards of truth
(54:20) The Tower of Babel, worshiping the tools
(57:34) You can rationalize anything
(59:08) DeWaal, social darwinism
(1:01:10) Rats and play, working toward future interactions
(1:05:21) Have we done better in the wake of deified science?
(1:07:37) Contrasting Epicurus
(1:08:45) Something the postmodernists got right, the drifter
(1:11:03) The detriment of pornography
(1:13:18) Harrowing statistics
(1:14:31) Male motivators in the workplace
(1:16:04) Overt demoralization
(1:18:21) Subordinating intellect to whim
(1:20:15) There is no self there, identity and gratification
(1:21:43) Where the Right goes wrong, vision and consumerism
(1:22:39) Training games, iterative trading
(1:25:34) Neoliberalism
(1:26:11) Don’t subordinate the long term to the short term
(1:29:03) Setting virtue, rules and ideal roles
(1:32:20) Sustaining meaning, adopting responsibility
(1:35:19) Your efforts can last
(1:36:10) The reality of abdicating biblical ideals
(1:40:08) God as a positive animating spirit
(1:42:31) Hardships have meaning into eternity
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[@megofiachra3247]

Hawley is an example of the type of people that should be elected to office: student of history, thoughtful, courageous.

[@MO_91185c]

Isn't it baffling that here we have two of the biggest brains of our times talking on the radio entertaining and informing and America has who they have as the ultimate leaders of that country. Isn't that phenomena worthy of a study or is it too random to be able to pin down.

[@frankstallone3864]

He's a thinly veiled wasp Christian Nationalist who is out of touch with the real world.

[@outshout1054]

​@@MO_91185c my suspicion is that it is a reflexion of the voting populis. If you vote for who makes you feel good you don't get leaders who tell the truth. When the majority prefer comfort to practicality then competence is sacrificed to nice sounding falsehood.

[@BidenIsKing]

I would say the opposite! He is a war monger just like Bush, Obama and Biden. Sending our tax dollars overseas to pay for the death of Ukrainians and Russians. Pure Evil!

[@dubinator9838]

Yeah example of an Insurrectionist

[@stevemattero1471]

I doubt that any other US representative would be able to carry on a conversation with Dr. Peterson about the Enlightenment and the evolution of Western thought like this... Sen. Hawley is in a league of his own

[@bobtaylor170]

Senator J.D. Vance, of Ohio, who was a Rhodes scholar, as I think Hawley was. We probably have some others but they're not coming to mind.

[@braelinsdad]

Senator Mike Lee from Utah

[@chrischristenson4547]

I would add former senator Ben Sasse. I would greatly like to see a conversation between Jordan and Ben

[@sandeakilpatrick2386]

Wrong! Hawley isn't the first politician he has talked to. Senator Mike Lee was amazing when he was on discussing Ukraine with Peterson.

[@edselsugay4768]

Agreed 💯 truly a unique leader-not just politically, but also philosophically.

[@dtps_champion6016]

Wife left me after almost 13 years. I'm single and have not resorted to porn once. I feel like this is one of the best decisions I've ever made. Pray for me.

[@alexhuffvn]

I'm praying for healing and continued strength. Keep fighting the good fight brother!

[@aavila1206]

Stay strong 💪🏽

[@jamesflynn4741]

Prayed for you just now. If she returns to you, I hope you both are blessed. If not, know that Life still has deep joy to offer you. I know- my wife and I separated years ago. God’s Will be done

[@DrOldhen]

If you have seen the Woke ideology you actually have seen porn. Sorry to break that to you but remember if you have seen the smoke you already know the stench of the fire and will avoid it sooner.

[@jasonclarke7557]

'resorted to porn'! hahaha, that's hilarious! dude, you're unbalanced. go 'resort' for a while. de-stress. don't take this anxiety out into the dating market, or you're going to freak some people out. the thing you are proud of, is embarrassing.

[@maggiealbritton8741]

Jordan and Josh having striking similarities to each other! I admire and respect both of them for their values and the way they communicate and inspire millions of people!

[@lokorobot3693]

Not a good thing!

[@ClaritySinger]

Mom of five sons here. Agree. Thankful for good men who uphold good values and inspire good character we can respect like Senator Josh Hawley.

[@little_wonderer9290]

Five boys! I can tell you're a wonderful and understanding mother.

[@hansvanniekerk768]

SHUT UP Jordan Peterson !!! Let Josh answer or FINISH a sentence, a paragraph, a thought, without you jumping in EVERY TIME !!! Damn it.. ....

[@daltanionwaves]

​@@hansvanniekerk768 While you're not wrong, you are obviously a slave to your emotions. But at least you're smart enough to seek solutions to your own problems. But not quite smart enough to not seek out pointless conflict.

[@stonerawks9882]

​@@daltanionwaves This is just what happens when you're particularly enthusiastic or passionate about certain topics. Jordan isn't perfect, but I'm sure he doesn't want to interrupt with the intention to prevent him from expressing himself. I see both of them shine in a very good light in this discussion.

[@travisgrider8770]

I previously lived a selfish life a had 4 children with three different women. My life crashed hard for awhile it was very eye opening how horrible I had been. I found Jordan Peterson at that time and the advice has allowed me to fix so much of life. Thank God for you Dr. Peterson.

[@claudiap.6838]

Did you decide to leave all the 3 women or did they all leave you?

[@raewise6345]

He has helped SO many of us. He will never know. Just by following the high standards he has set for himself and sharing them with the world. Life changing 🌟❤️

[@416cubes4]

Good for you brother.

[@mightyfloppers7527]

Well done, I wish you success and wisdom.

[@pulpficti]

I was in a really dark space also. And I realized, just like you, that as bad as I'm feeling right now, there are at least transpeople that I can make feel worse. It's just human nature.

[@christinawilson7312]

My husband of 23+ years has repeatedly said “En-Courage, do not Dis-Courage.” -when dealing with his Work Crew, His Children…(the wife may be a whole other sort🫣🤭🙄🥰😇)… I am very Proud of My husband Mr. Wilson for becoming such an inspirationtional Father figure in Our Community. A lot of kids look 👀 up to him for his kind words & advice. 🌟🎶💋💓I Am Blessed☺️

[@gerrylarson3675]

Too have a bride who holds me up. It is VERY inspirational. Pat yourself on the back, a little, please and thank you.

[@mR-dc4oq]

Thank you for sharing this. What a good philosophy.

[@lauraroberts2250]

It's wonderful to listen to these conversations. So much good sense to pass on to loved ones. Thank you, Dr Peterson.

[@jasonclarke7557]

for sure! share this around, make sure everyone you interact with on a daily basis knows you're a fringe lunatic. you owe full disclosure to them.

[@RevTheHermit]

​@@jasonclarke7557it's great stuff, I agree.

[@stephanlittger9471]

Two allegedly grown men who anchor their lives around an imaginary creature in the sky. in fact, they never grew up. what follows is a deeply immature, immoral worldview akin to the egocentrism of a child... and a direct line to supporting the moral deprivation of President 45.

[@bungalowmo]

@@jasonclarke7557 If you actually listened to this, you would see how silly your comment is.

[@jasonclarke7557]

@@bungalowmo so, translation, 'if you absorbed the same material that brainwashed all of us, you'd be brainwashed too'. hard pass. sorry about your brain.

[@marie-louiseleroux828]

Success is not built on success. It's built on failure,, It's built on frustration. it's built on fear that you have to overcome... I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life....

[@flashwashington2735]

Amen. God bless.

[@Murphator]

And also with you....

[@flashwashington2735]

You mean to say, lots and lots of failure. Come-on. Say it. SAY IT!!!😉😉🤠🤔🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 God bless.

[@Fredrik10]

What do you consider to be "successfull"? And who decides what success means? Wealth, status, facade, your fitness level, your pb in bench press, title on your business card, your office, your car, your furniture, your vacations etc.. For most people sucess is tied to what big corporations over many decades has convinced us is important. Things, things, gadgets and more things. Materialism. Build something, sell enough products, buy things, be happy. Today its all about discipline, working all the time, working out, cold baths, meditation, hyper efficiency, productivity.. Everyone should ideally be their own boss. create something (doesent matter what it is and if people actually need it. If it sells its golden) and strive for even more productivity, money, status, fame the next day. Why? What is it all really for (satisfy our delusions and ego.. who said that?) Whats the end goal for us humans? Why are we here? To watch important and deep shows like ex on the beach and the Kardashians? To own the best car? The best villa? Whats the meaning of this absurd human existence? To use and drain every last natural resource on this planet, just so we all can have the newest and best thing? Then what? When there is no moder nature left.. Go to another planet and do the exact same thing? And then what? Why?

[@awakened9796]

I hope you are 2

[@Linglefamily]

Josh Hawley gives me HOPE! Thank you, Missouri voters. Politicians on both sides seem to be a pathetic lot!

[@jayroo10]

I love it when he unleashes onto those lunatics at hearings lol

[@lisawhitley1518]

Josh Hawley must be our President someday!

[@foxtrotjulietbravo5536]

@@lisawhitley1518 - "We're in heated agreement!" said Josh Hawley. This conversation between Dr. Peterson and Sen. Hawley is so excellent.

[@Petestanton]

Hawley s Democratic opponent is an actual man

[@josuaavock7061]

Indeed, he is an excellent candidate for POTUS.

[@Mary-gg9mj]

Dr Peterson I gave your book 12 Rules to my liberal grandson. At Christmas I witnessed his gifting the same book to his younger brother. His brother had already purchased it. I cried a lot. Your books/philosophy changed both amazing, smart young men for the better. I just want to say thank you. You and your family are amazing. I hope I get to see you in person one day to say thanks. For now this will have to suffice. God bless.

[@ravenmasters2467]

Thats a beautiful little story and a huge tribute to JBP. Thank you for sharing it.

[@brianjohnston2897]

A wonderful insightful discussion between two deep thoughtful and humble men. Thank you so much both of you. Watching from Birmingham UK Brian

[@mR-dc4oq]

I have never thought of JP as humble. Solid- yes. Humble? Not the first thing I think of. He’s a bit rancorous if you ask me but a man of incredible depth. A beautiful man to hear.

[@quantumnews2465]

Josh is my senator here in SE Missouri and i am vert proud of him. He actually knows exactly how tondo his job. If everyone in Congress was like him we might not be in the situation we are in today.

[@valley5617]

I’m in KC area of the show me state and he has certainly shown everyone how to do it.

[@rcasey9004]

Thank you for electing him! I’m in PA…sorry about Fetterman 😢

[@DrOldhen]

I'm in Truman Lake aria. I stepped out of a religious cult to see not just the truth but reality. I have followed politics but now will emerge as best I can. Sharpening my gut instinct here in Missouri where my fellow humans have already chosen Mr. Hawley to represent me.

[@narcopolo4464]

Imagine that everyone was - and then imagine what kind of person it would take to corrupt such establishment. Must be a terrible kind of person or worse..... Sad truth of the matter is that it is what it is just because of such people being in position of power enabling them to corrupt a d take advantage of the system for pure selfish interesting. They didn't have to outsmart the idiots congress consists of today, they are the ones who put them there in the first place after winning the battle against people like this brilliant senator.

[@wisdomasculture3173]

I'd love to see him president in the future

[@Milestonemonger]

As a woman, I'll take brute masculinity over weakness any day.

[@jeremesmith9266]

Amen sister

[@rosalapeligrosarojas2063]

Me too

[@lourdesvelasco9319]

Thank you Dr.Petterson for having Senator Hawley in your show.He is just a delight in the conservative movement.

[@Gerrly]

Wow. Never heard of Josh Hawley before this. Huge fan. Definitely reading his book.

[@fullmoon1072]

I just bought his book. Woman here. Miss true masculine men.

[@emmap1159]

You should listen to Josh Hawley in congressional hearings. He's brilliant.

[@ravenmasters2467]

like @emmap1159 i also am familiar with Josh from congressional hearings and have enormous respect for him. He practices what he preaches and is just as intelligent, passionate and principled in those hearings as he is here. well worth watching anytime you come across them.

[@bobbyshaftoe45]

How deeply full of logic and meaning! Easily one of the best discussions i have ever heard. Well done.

[@hansvanniekerk768]

SHUT UP Jordan Peterson !!! Let Josh answer or FINISH a sentence, a paragraph, a thought, without you jumping in EVERY TIME !!! Damn it.. ....

[@Freedom17762]

Thank you so much Jordan and Josh. This is a conversation that men and honestly women need to hear. I needed to hear this and it really hit home for me. I desperately want a wife and kids but I have totally given up and make zero effort to date or even make advances at women. I think access to porn and living a selfish lifestyle has put me in this position. I am going to church now and making major lifestyle changes to get me out of this rut, hopefully before it’s to late.

[@paulas3897]

As a woman, I agree with you. I also wish you well in your endeavors. Nothing worth having is easily obtained but keep at it and the reward will come and be sweeter because of the battle.

[@PantheraOnca60]

Just keep the faith, keep your eye on the sparrow, and keep up the good work. Concentrate on your life as your mission and you will attract the right sort of woman. You'll do this.

[@Freedom17762]

@@PantheraOnca60 thanks for the words of encouragement. It’s definitely not easy breaking bad habits but I’m not giving up. Life is to shore to wander aimlessly.

[@ChaniJRandazzo]

@@Freedom17762 Too short and too precious. Your ancestors strove too hard and overcame far too much to have everything they fought for end here with you. And for what?

[@Freedom17762]

@@paulas3897 thanks Paula. I totally agree sometimes learning the hard way is the best way to learn.

[@paigeawin]

Josh Hawley is one of the best examples of what a man is! I'm very impressed that he himself humbly recognizes that, accepts it as his responsibility and is able to uplift other men who are willing, to stand strong in their natural masculinity and leadership.

[@lokorobot3693]

You read his tweets?

[@grammjam]

Gross

[@zhshsG7]

As a 31 year old male, this episode motivates me a lot.

[@alexandermcclain5561]

Love when the two of you work together. Hawley makes me proud to be from Missouri.

[@seabreeze8467]

You should be. I wish he was my State's Senator. I really admire him. I'm glad he wrote the book. I've got 3 boys and I'll be buying his book.

[@mrc1a]

I voted for him too. Glad Mccaskill is out.

[@oseiadomako6057]

My admiration for Honorable Josh Hawley has skyrocketed 😊

[@wisdomasculture3173]

Same, I love himm

[@alexhuffvn]

Praise God for Senator Hawley preaching the Gospel to Dr. Peterson and his large audience. Accepting personal responsibility will give you purpose and meaning in this life, and accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior will give you purpose and meaning for eternity!

[@AmericanSnowWolf]

This is one of my favorite conversations thus far. Abundant blessings and gratitude to you both for your courage, voice of truth, and personal conviction. 🙏🏼♥🇺🇸

[@Jamy528]

Absolutely! 👏💜

[@AngeredYeti]

As someone that usually just sees the craziness in the US political system, it is reassuring and encouraging to see a man like Senator Hawley. Thank you JP for your time in talking to this gentleman. Much love from Alberta to both of you.

[@kimbowen5552]

Ditto from Texas

[@southboundguitar]

A "man?" Baaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! If that's our "men," we're fucked.

[@jorgeenchilada]

you mean as someone who sees the craziness, and continues to see it in Hawley.

[@thurzaheim]

Missouri is so blessed to have a senator like Hawley! We have suffered for years with ours here in California, which I'm very sorry to have to say!

[@RealBadDaddy]

I would still pay attention to how he voted and votes on certain issues. Some people talk out both side of their mouths. Not saying he does. But I’m going too pay closer attention on what he does now.

[@foxtrotjulietbravo5536]

But Missouri was ignored studiously by the senator before him, Claire McCaskill. Good thing she no longer had a Missouri address last time she tried to run for re-election. That was a great opening for Josh's election to that office. He's about 40x smarter than she is and easily 100x more moral.

[@SnekoftheOzarks]

No, we're not, and this is coming from someone right of center. Hawley effectively abandoned the people of Missouri to reinforce his federal career. Leapt from office to office in the state government, leaving half-finished projects or massive messes for his successors to clean up. Campaigned on not being a career politician, but until his senate seat, but rarely stayed in a position long enough to do anything more than chase a headline. He talks a big game and tries to stick his nose into any argument he can, looking for a camera, but the second no one is looking he's only working for himself. For a man preaching about responsibility, he sure did shirk a lot of his responsibility to Missouri. Hawley is a silver tongued snake looking for his next meal, nothing more.

[@valley5617]

@@SnekoftheOzarks you complained about his history. What are you upset about that he’s done in the senate. I’ve been thrilled that we got rid of mccaskill. Akin could have won except for the fact that republicans eat their own. Claire’s whole campaign was reels of GOP attacking him.

[@onehundredpercentmaxnochil9720]

I'm proud to be a Missourian because of people like Senator Hawley. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@bungalowmo]

He is certainly an asset to the Senate, as well as the human race

[@thomasplante6012]

What an amazing conversation. So much respect for this man and his vision for our future. God bless you Sir.

[@elvisfifo]

I'm always impressed with anyone able to keep up with Dr. Peterson's thoughts!

[@Alan_Edwards]

Here here

[@biancavonmuhlendorf2608]

no problem

[@Alan_Edwards]

@@DandelionScribe I don't think you know very much about Jordan. You should do more research. He has a complete series non the bible. I am pretty sure he believes in god but does have his own perspective on religion. As do I. There are many levels and ways to believe in god.

[@cloudfromthelandofro5738]

​@@DandelionScribe Jordan has said several times how he has known God throughout his life, particularly in recent years. And that helped him overcome several difficulties. I can understand that you do not like his exposition, but he uses abstractions to make the speech more digestible even to those who are not believers. Because the ultimate goal is to build moral values. Whether a person believes in god or not, the ethical and moral concepts that the Bible contains are undeniable.

[@Thepunished12]

​​​@@DandelionScribe He never says he does not believe. Only he has no idea what to believe specifically. He makes the best case for the existence of God I've ever heard. He has stated multiple times that he feels its no ones right to ask that question of anyone. Who are you to even attempt to convey who or what God is with your words type attitude. Your comment is exactly why he doesn't attempt to explain his belief. You wouldn't understand. You already misunderstood so much.

[@flamingphoenix824]

I am simply so filled with joy to immerse my mind with this wisdom on a beautiful morning. Have a good day everyone!

[@RealBadDaddy]

You too

[@NLCOMBOPK]

Two of my favorite people discussing critical topics.. God speed to both of you and all the men out there suffering silently.

[@NDNNDeNd]

“Heavy Lies the Crown” Once more, thank you Dr. Peterson. This listen was very much educational to ears of the many. & eye opening to the world I’d bet. 🔥🙌

[@perandersson4528]

I'm still a virgin, and I am not ashamed. I only study, work, and do nothing else, and I am happy!

[@user-ry6kv8de3b]

How old are you?

[@dianeleone1634]

Two very thoughtful, interesting & insightful men conveying their own journey in this life:::::: Thank you Dr Peterson & Senator Josh Hawley for sharing your time in this podcast💜💙💚💕

[@servantofYeshuaAdonaiEchadYHWH]

He has nothing to do with being or hating but He is absolutely correct. History sadly repeats itself and yes agree with you 💯. Please forgive me for checking this out. 10/16/17 Lost the love of my life and life stopped with her. Only Yeshua HaMashiach Jesus Messiah. Love God love all people. Amen and also you have such an amazing beautiful house as well.

[@daphnekaburara9663]

What I'm even more concerned about is that there are hardly any male teachers in the early formation years for our sons in schools today. How do you tackle that? I absolutely enjoyed this conversation! 🙌 Senator Hawley, you have my deepest respect! J.P, thankyou again. It is always an absolute pleasure to listen in.🙏

[@kendrickmiller2339]

Thank you guys for having this conversation. It is one that is very needed. I get the privilege of being a Chaplain with the Colorado department of corrections. I work with young men aged 17-25 and they desperately need to hear a message of responsibility. Jordan, lately I have been using Understand myself to help the young guys discover their personalities. It is really rewarding to see the light bulb come on for them as they begin to understand why they do the things that they do. Keep up the good work Brother.

[@samanthamccallister2677]

From Missouri! Thank God for Josh Hawley! It's so great to have representation you can agree with! God bless!

[@DontcallmeaCuck]

Ask Josh about the J6 political prisoners . Phony

[@peterbenoit5886]

@@DontcallmeaCuck Agree with your sentiment. But...he will still lie - they ALL do! - because we have no accountability. Rome reputedly fell due to lead poisoning; we are modern men and we have more insidious poisons with names like misinformation, disinformation, and logical fallacy.

[@brentanthony6038]

This conversation really resonated with me, a struggling father of 2 young boys. I feel alone so often and rarely hear encouragement from anyone. I found myself reflecting that maybe my efforts for my sons haven't been as bad as I've self reflected. Thank you kindly for the enlightened, a funny choice of words I know given the topics discussed, conversation.

[@little_wonderer9290]

The fact you're making an effort is worth so much. Too many dads just don't. I am so proud of you even if no one else is.

[@hmitchell9759]

You are your own worst critic bro

[@kaseyliudahl]

😅

[@hansvanniekerk768]

SHUT UP Jordan Peterson !!! Let Josh answer or FINISH a sentence, a paragraph, a thought, without you jumping in EVERY TIME !!! Damn it.. ....

[@svetavinogradova4243]

Raise them and find a young wife, she will love your dear y

[@villelaurzua371]

Thank you Senator Harley and Dr. Peterson. I love your talks - I pray that more men hear this message.

[@robadams1506]

Since I watched this video for the 4th time I am reading scriptures differently. I see responsibility in every book. Wow! what an eye opener. Thank you.

[@autumnleaves2766]

Another excellent discussion. A former neighbour of mine told me how his very intelligent son and friends resented the anti-male indoctrination that one particular teacher was subjecting them to. The boys would write what they thought the teacher wanted to read, the groupthink in other words, whilst secretly despising it. I do worry that at a later date this generation of young men will lash out in anger, women being the usual easy targets. Violence against women seems to get worse. Too much early exposure to pornography does a huge amount of damage. The dating landscape is bleak for older adults too. Trust between men and women has broken down, just as we have lost trust in our leaders and public officials. Use of social media shortens people's attention spans too.

[@GoAwayNow-iz3du]

And generations of evil men have brought this about through abusing the gentler nature of women & now men are shocked, SHOCKED to finally find out that there are at least 3 generations of women who completely despise men & for very good reason - men are selfish & don't care about who they use up or how many lives they destroy on their neverending quest to gratify their own perverted desires. Men are an absolute plague on the Earth at this point & the only way back is by men themselves. Men have to put in the effort before women as a collective, will ever trust them again & not want to do an equal amount of damage in return to them. So suck it up boys & fix yourselves instead of blaming all the world's problems on women when it's men who do 99% of the physical, emotional & spiritual damage to society - especially their own kids.

[@wendellbabin6457]

Don't confuse hating women with hating "woke zealot with different sex organs than mine". And NEVER forget all the "Man Hating" in opposite (armed) camp as well. HA.

[@the2ndcoming135]

Exactly. It’s quite clear now there’s an attempt to put proverbial dog collars on males. Especially, if you’re heterosexual.

[@Snake-filledChimp]

Man, Senator Hawley and JP are on point. I hear that Senator Fetterman (D-PA) is a really sharp guy, too. JP, you should invite him on for a 2 hour podcast on a complex subject.

[@johnzielinski9951]

Lol!

[@vemarj2802]

😂 lol Good one

[@thurzaheim]

Oh, that's low....😅

[@paulas3897]

Oh God…please no!😳🤯😂

[@PantheraOnca60]

😂

[@Cmtb125]

What an AMAZING conversation , by two AMAZING men. Thank you. Both of you.

[@nickacca]

Jordan don't cut people off when they are talking about the suicide of their best friend. Loved this interview. Keep it up !

[@lucillesimmons3204]

Josh Hawley is good people. I'll pick up the book on the weekend Senator Hawley.

[@cindyjean3208]

I’m so glad I saw this… Sent it to my son.. young men need to see/ hear intelligent noble conversation… It’s also good for ladies to see as well.. By beholding, we become changed… I choose Jesus… and His ways.. Blessed be the name of the Lord

[@flashwashington2735]

Amen. God bless.

[@jeffweatherby5279]

Anyone who can competently spar with the good Doctor is someone to take seriously.

[@mariojorge9529]

This one was very interesting. Thank you, Dr. Peterson! God bless you, senator Hawley, your families and audience.

[@srqjim6381]

Excellent discussion. I just ordered your book for my 15-year-old grandson. I may send a copy to my son too!

[@DrOldhen]

You just must sit and read it together and debate it with one another

[@christineladd152]

What a joy to watch great minds converse about life and meaning!

[@markgivens3225]

42!

[@RSBloc]

Lol you need to value your opinion more,these two men just talking they own opinions

[@hoosierdaddy2308]

It's sad that we have to have someone even say this, but it is necessary ❤. Josh is very articulate. I watched him many times on KZbin question Bidens picks for cabinet offices and question the FBI. Great guy it seems. ❤

[@valley5617]

Yeah, I’m 67 and this is how we were raised. As people became more secular they lost it. Focus on self leads to despair.

[@bobtaylor170]

​@@valley5617 truer words have never been said. For the last day or so I've been trying to get through to a young person about this.

[@the2ndcoming135]

After while you start noticing that something is missing. Like, where the hell is everybody?🤔

[@Anakynblade88]

It is always amazing to listen to any conversation that dr. Jordan has. Thank you .

[@stormj5527]

Wonderful to hear from Senator Hawley. Hes in a class of his own against the tide in DC. May all parents listen to this and encourage our young adults not to avoid suffering and distractions, for true leaders are called to encourage others and find meaning in their lives in the process. Signed a mom

[@EhrhardRyan]

​@@marz9676 How did you find this channel? Much less thus episode? Obviously, this is not for you. Why do you insist on trolling?

[@little_wonderer9290]

@@marz9676 You need to quit watching TV.

[@little_wonderer9290]

@@marz9676 You need to separate "Christianity" from American Republicanism.

[@stormj5527]

The children need strong fathers Hawley is a role model.

[@stormj5527]

Father protect your children

[@tinytim71301]

One of the best in the Senate. Big love and respect from Louisiana.

[@gregorywitcher5618]

⚜️Who DAT?! ⚜️

[@itsbaxter2]

What a profound discussion between two very intelligent people. Pleasure to watch!

[@trivers94]

I have a new found respect for Senator Hawley. Good to see we have some ethical leaders in this country. Thank you Dr. Peterson. Great conversation as always

[@vinceviselli3805]

i truly believe Josh hawley could become a future president.......this man has fought for the middle class, so impressed with him.

[@didi4192]

I love that Senator Hawley stands throughout the interview, physically showing his strength, endurance and discipline.

[@hamandchees3]

He's clearly sitting on a stool

[@joshfrench6426]

Lol what?

[@moniquemcgriskin652]

I don't know if I have enough room in my head for how much my brain has expanded just listening to this conversation. Absolutely fascinating.

[@chrisbonvino3067]

This was one of the best exchanges I've ever listened to. Thank you Dr. Peterson and Sen. Hawley.

[@lindasteinbrenner8065]

So impressed with Senator Hawley. And as always Dr. Peterson.

[@Joshuarcade]

Where could a single dad solely raising 2 daughters begin Dr Peterson?

[@CC-xn5xi]

God bless you. Recognize that each female is her own unique person. Femininity expresses itself in an infinitely wide range of thoughts, feelings, behaviours. Nurture. Encourage. Raise them to say no and to protect themselves. Respect their physical privacy at all times.

[@interstellarreaper8]

Most important conversation I’ve heard in months, thank you to you both. Please do this again with the senator

[@thedon978]

Senator Hawley is no politician. He has all the makings of a great statesman. He gives us hope that not all is lost. Bravo!

[@debbielwilliamson8546]

An excellent conversation. Thank you both for sharing your thoughts with us.

[@patrickpaez]

Very appreciative of the senator coming out to the Dr.’s lecture.

[@karenbanta1353]

Thank you, Senator Holly! Thank you for representing Missouri well, we are thankful for you. I am looking forward to getting your book for my son's. ❤

[@conniefoxx9813]

I feel like Dr. Peterson really enjoys and is excited by having another man that can speak with him at his level of thought and knowledge. Josh, you are as impressive as hell to keep up with Dr. Peterson.

[@kimbowen5552]

Great respect for Senator Hawley. Thoroughly impressed. Enjoyed this!

[@rosalapeligrosarojas2063]

That was the most amazing talk i've listened to in quite a while... Bravo! Thanks!

[@letitiafullofjoy]

The humble spirit of Sen J. Hawley in this video is amiable.

[@sharpatite4684]

Dr. Peterson, and Senator Hawley Part 2, please! Encore!!

[@clayjeffries3901]

Mr. Peterson, you are my intelectual hero. I like your jacket too.

[@Alexander-cf6oi]

Amazing podcast! Much respect to both Jordan and Josh. This talk was extremely helpful

[@mbcraig2]

Most of us have suffered immeasurably since covid. I am encouraged by this conversation especially the end where they talk about suffering. Many people have lost family members and even young ones. This is trauma. Perhaps things will get worse than they are now. Turn to God as Sen. Hawley says, and find purpose in this struggle.

[@efrainrodriguezortiz477]

Listening to this conversation was really a dessert of knowledge and the truth that we need more true men and without fear of what they will say. Thank you both for this space.❤

[@karenmickow3716]

I am so in tune w/both of you ! I am a woman & I have lost a son , I have a wonderful son & a wonderful daughter ! My daughter has 3 sons & a daughter ! My son has a daughter & my daughter-law (his wife) is religious like I am ! My son who died had 3 children 2 daughters & a son ! Listening to you will helps me w/speaking to them ! They truly respect me & I Love ❤️ what you talked about , it was so inspirational ! Thank You & God 🙏🇺🇸 Bless both of you !

[@annbrucepineda8093]

Two of my favorite leaders.

[@sansalou8692]

Love these two men! What a wonderful discussion. Everyone should listen to this.

[@AD-mq8ny]

Two of my favorites. Glad to see this collaboration.

[@joan3891]

Decent men such as these, say and do decent things, and fight the good fight. You’re both helping to make men decent again. Bless you both and thank you.

[@lewispolden]

Hawley is a star. Love the guy

[@KGTNT978]

Great interview. Keep sharing your knowledge and beliefs in our beloved man. We need our men to lead. Love you both. 🙏❤️🕊️

[@bibirolo4252]

Thank you both from me a woman and many others like me. What you’re doing for me affects us directly in more positive ways than one!

[@sophiestephens5811]

As a Missourian I love this interview!

[@by7810]

Love from Florida to both these men! So great to watch them on their perspective missions collide for our indulgent viewing. 🍻💘🙏🏻 Happy Memorial Day.

[@foxtrotjulietbravo5536]

Get this BY - As we were leaving Missouri we voted for Josh Hawley for U.S. Senate and were registered to vote in southwest Florida when Byron Donalds was first running for Congress. Then, my husband's job required us to move to Clearwater where, this last Nov., we voted for rising star Anna Paulina Luna for Congress and the reelection of Gov. Ron DeSantis. But, by the time one reaches our age we have learned how to research candidates. But Florida has excellent resources for researching candidates.

[@by7810]

I always know exactly who I'm voting for. That is one's responsibility before casting a ballot.

[@blokclok]

A second Jordan Peterson - the more the merrier...👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@angelcandelaria6728]

What he says at the end needs an entire episode. The biggest issue with the religious people who don’t study is that which he speaks on at the end. So many people love to say “The end is coming” “i am Chosen” “you have to do what i do or else…” etc etc His breakdown is great. He is absolutely right. So many people are looking for meaning through tragic events and loss and don’t even see themselves doing it…

[@cowboytroy3033]

These two gentlemen are true stalwarts of society..God bless them both

[@prycelessly]

I must say, Dr. Peterson, you look particularly dapper in this episode!! Kudos to your dresser, be it you, your wife, daughter, paid pro, or combo of folks. I've shared this visual with my husband to inspire his sartorial splendor. Ps., This program, like all your conversations/lectures, was interesting, too.

[@gregorywitcher5618]

He’s been wearing the jeans and white button down and hunting jacket for a good long while now. Makes him very Northern Albertan. His dad is/was a marksman shooter.

[@kimpreslar303]

This conversation was deeply fantastic and needed. Thank you both!

[@chaoticchaos894]

Hawley is one of my favorite people in our government 🙏 if only all the other members were like him our government would be in great shape!

[@doylepatterson3459]

Josh, I'm glad you're "born again" and very patient. I look forward to meeting you in eternity. It's going to be great!!

[@lucasjharr6]

Jordan B Peterson rules the planet. Thanks doc!

[@dillonsnyder1172]

This discussion has been inspiring and helpful, gentlemen. So much is immediately practical as a man looking to start a family.

[@George_Philip_Podcasts]

Dr. always deliver what we need the most, Thank you Mentor and the entire team Jordan Peterson

[@rup1u5]

"funs"?

[@George_Philip_Podcasts]

@@rup1u5 Corrected sir, give subscription

[@sweebos]

Very excited to dive into this discussion. Thank you gentlemen.

[@foxxxychanda]

I am so grateful that my state has the honor of being represented by such an intelligent, moral, and brave man like Josh Hawley. Americans need men like him representing all our states and this country would be in a much better place.

[@teresakoziel3011]

Very good discussion. Jordan Peterson and Josh Hawley are my kind of people. 👌

[@dougg1075]

Haven’t seen my mom since I was twelve and never knew my father. Raised by my sister and other families when times got tough , I graduated high school and got my own place , bought my first car ( rode the bus through my senior year when friends couldn’t get me). Now married twenty years and have my own business. Not bragging here, just saying no matter what your situation the world is what you make it. Jesus is the truth and the life! Believe it

[@mbcraig2]

Wonderful story that encourages others!

[@ltracy100]

Wow, you are an inspiration, great job and thanks for the example!

[@candiwelsh5524]

I so love and respect senator Hawley!!❤