Was Brandon Miller Over Scoot the Right Pick? | The Bill Simmons Podcast

[@zachnantz5304]

Brandon Miller is known to provide shooting for his teammates

[@MrOneanddone91]

Touche

[@blaketindle4703]

😂

[@dracula-oi4uv]

Damn bro you are a serious shot 😂😂😂😂😂

[@MakingMovesMajor]

As if you've never given the wrong person a ride. He made a mistake, get over it. He didn't kill anyone.

[@RealMikeMiller13]

@@MakingMovesMajordoesn’t change the fact that he’s elite at creating shots for others

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

“Charlotte leads the league in defense attorneys at this moment.” 😂😂😂

[@GandalfTheStraight]

Should be an official NBA stat

[@nickhaser221]

Sad but true

[@banditonehundred]

Can’t wait to see Miller and Miles Bridges banging it out there……on the court.

[@bornhunter9137]

Lmao😂

[@MacNif]

Is Bridges no longer suspended?

[@K5Frm750]

@@MacNifshould be back this season

[@blaketindle4703]

Is he still doing the pat down celebration? One thing’s for sure, dude gonna come out guns blazing his rookie year!

[@TSmitty-ec7ll]

You guys still have time to take this back

[@LelanWellz]

Jesus. Finally they got a real camera. This looks great guys. Presentation over everything. Please

[@Naiatelu]

Bill is like MJ, he pocketed the Spotify money. Why spend it on his organisation

[@chillyhwilly380]

Miller was so obvious because teams are so afraid of famous guards. It’s the same reason Phoenix didn’t take trea or Luka cause they feared how booker would feel

[@andrewshandle]

Suns wanted Ayton because they literally didn't have a scouting department and Ayton played at Arizona. Bad ownership is why the Suns took Ayton, not worrying about Booker, who remember hadn't won anything or even been an all-star at that point.

[@TheFilmSpace1]

@@andrewshandleexactly !!! Ayton went to High school in Arizona and played at Arizona. They were taking Ayton regardless

[@TheFilmSpace1]

exactly !!! Ayton went to High school in Arizona and played at Arizona. They were taking Ayton regardless

[@silewis9396]

Meanwhile Booker has a new teammate extremely similar in the shape of Bradley Beal. Frightening.

[@tonydavis9472]

Really, Sun's went to a championship. Where did Dallas or Atlanta go with there teams. Lol, come on what are we talking about. The Sun's still a better team.

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

Bill, please post a video in which you discuss your thoughts on the Porzingis / Marcus Smart trade. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@israelbarnes4704]

Listen to the pod

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

@@israelbarnes4704 - I don’t see it discussed on his podcast anywhere. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@chrischancellor7372]

There's an almost hour long video with Bill and his dad discussing it

[@johnbrowntheprophet]

@@chrischancellor7372 - Yeah, I watched it. I posted this before Bill posted the video. Thanks. 👍🏻

[@chrischancellor7372]

@@johnbrowntheprophet figured that might have been the case. Just wanted to give a heads up.

[@BB-2383]

Brandon Miller getting so much disrespect, just because of who drafted him. This dude is going to prove a lot of people wrong, mark it down. LaMelo and Miller are going to be a nice duo for years to come.

[@ckq]

Brandon Miller is better than Scoot. Scoot had more hype months ago, but it died down after he was mediocre in the G-League. Miller is more of a sure thing - think Paul George who'll most likely be an all-star/all-nba guy. Scoot's athleticism gives him more MVP potential than Miller, but he also might be a bust a la Dennis Smith Jr.

[@genesmith3582]

lmao, you've got zero clue here buddy. Scoot will be the better player.

[@Raydogs]

​@@genesmith3582correct, scoot so far is very similar to Dennis Smith Jr. Hard for stans to understand. We've seen this story over and over in the past

[@theman9048]

​@@Raydogshe is nothing like Dennis Smith Jr. Outside of athletics they don't have the same game

[@genesmith3582]

@@Raydogs stick to Candyland buddy because you know 2 shits about basketball.

[@djchavis4039]

​@@genesmith3582salty much

[@1eastked]

They Nick Smith at 27th this is probably MJ best draft possibly a draft that makes him regret selling the team

[@TheFilmSpace1]

Amari Bailey too

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

It's because he stepped down not being majority owner. Maybe they can have some success now.

[@BrazilianBeast45]

Imagine the blazers missed on Wemby but Scoot turns out to be the GOAT. Oden/Bowie redemption

[@Giorginho]

6'2 guy will never be a GOAT

[@lostyly]

​@@GiorginhoFR especially if he can't shoot a lick

[@mattdeluccia153]

@@GiorginhoPretty sure Hornets & Blazers work out measurements had him at just under 6’4 with a massive wingspan. Not saying Scoot will be the GOAT, but imo much better prospect than Miller

[@mattdeluccia153]

@@lostylyBro his shooting %s were better than LaMelo in Australia.

[@moneyman4740]

Diff is we’ve seen Scoot’s prototype atleast 15 times , Baron Davis , Rose , Russ, Wall, Fox , Ja , Jaden Ivey …… no chance any of them are the GOAT

[@BlindSwami_]

I think Miller is the second best player in this draft. I'm not buying the narrative that Scoot was clearly better and they only picked Miller because of fit.

[@GandalfTheStraight]

Well u better buy into it cuz it’s the truth

[@petourivsbranch5611]

@@GandalfTheStraightlmao

[@solcreatestuff1832]

@@GandalfTheStraight lmao

[@albase9285]

@@GandalfTheStraight Lmao I hope you didn't place any bets in favor of Scoot....you loss this debate clearly!!!

[@RobertKalina99]

Just the small sample I saw of Scoot in summer league, I saw a young Westbrook type of explosiveness with an even better shot, and will probably be an even better teammate. In other words, he’s going to be a great player.

[@andrejones7176]

I like how people are pretending they watched Scoot at all. How many people actually tuned into the 20 Ignite games he played this year? 😂 Same people who don’t even watch NBA games until the playoffs.

[@realsinceday1632]

I kno a lot would have to go right for Charlotte but they have a sneaky good team melo bridges miller and a big in mark Williams with vets like Hayward and rozier obviously they’re not contenders but I think they’re going in the right direction

[@tylersimmons7742]

Melo has to play off ball? Did you not watch any hornets game last year? He’s an amazing passer and averaged 8.5 assists. I think he’s proved all he needs to to show he’s a lead point guard.

[@Raydogs]

​@@latenotice7254you just described the pistons and rockets. Glad you like losing

[@Raydogs]

@@latenotice7254 it's this idea of being athletic wins games similar to rockets and pistons. Yes, if you actually watched the hornets, you would realize that Miles is overrated and so is scoot so I think it's a bad idea. Miles can't play d and not reliable in shooting three. Scoot only played in 20 games last year

[@MeechG]

Miles might be overrated but he definitely played better when Melo got to Charlotte

[@Raydogs]

@@latenotice7254 scoot was primarily guarded by someone about 6 feet or smaller 50 percent of the time, also had his stuff blocked pretty good a few times. Mostly got down hill because his primary defender was not close to NBA draft material. Only played 20 games. If you have that it factor it would show in overall stats. It doesn't just show in 1 game. Being about to do it over more games is more valuable. Miller played in almost 40 games, more than double, meanwhile Scoot couldn't play once he had an injury, but Miller played with an injury. That's proof of who's weak

[@michaelwatkins9479]

Kevin is the same guy that said players like frank nitlakina and killian hayes were going to be good players lol

[@shadow_realm47]

Yup. People don't show up with the receipts. These guys talk like they're knowledgeable but they're just making up stuff.

[@StoneCold70]

I'm so thankful we got him

[@yashaskashyap1542]

Brandon miller has killer instinct. That is something that no one in the draft has, considering his 40 point performance against south carolina

[@Biz613]

Miller is a great shot creator.

[@Somethingsomethingmorbid0]

Needs to work on his delivery though. Often setting up his teammates to shoot in undesirable or dangerous situations

[@Somethingsomethingmorbid0]

You could almost say, deadly situations...

[@tdup191]

​@@Somethingsomethingmorbid0booooooooo 🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅

[@awenner]

I am very confident that Miller will be a good player but im very confident that Scoot will be a great player

[@albase9285]

@awenner still feel the same way??? Or has that assessment reversed??? Lmao Miller looks pretty strong now....hehehe

[@awenner]

@@albase9285 nope nothing has changed thanks for checking in though

[@fredbird7257]

If KOC likes Miller then he’s probably gonna be a bust

[@genesmith3582]

yup, KOC's thing is he's consistently way off.

[@francisayala9310]

Let's not forget that KOC said that Killian Hayes had the potential to be the best player in his draft class. That draft had Anthony Edwards. Let's also not forget his obsession with Mo Bamba.

[@FalseNi9e]

Brandon Miller will be a multiple time All-Star! 💯💯💯 Dame is 100% gone and it's the right decision. Can't build a championship team in 1 off-season. It's never been a realistic option

[@benpaschke9193]

And Scoot will be a multiple time All-NBA! 💯💯💯

[@solcreatestuff1832]

@@benpaschke9193 in the g league 💯💯

[@chadcappadona8520]

He's a deadly shooter i hear

[@thisguy8106]

Scoot is gonna be the next Marcus Smart. He's never gonna be what so many are saying he's gonna be.

[@shadshad2972]

Nope , he’s better the him right now

[@cissem4025]

@@shadshad2972 nah

[@hooligan5381]

This narrative that Scoot is gonna be some Generational Talent needs to stop.

[@anthonyrivera2306]

I feel Scoot is one ACL tear from being a bust, just by the way he plays. Bad 3 point shooter. Nowadays, you need a point guard that shoots the 3 pointer well. Edit: Drafting a 6'2" guard when the last 5 NBA champions have tall lineups baffles me.

[@jacobwilkins8761]

@@anthonyrivera2306 I understand it's not the same situation because Scoot can't shoot, but last year's Finals MVP, who was the best player on four of the last ten title teams, was literally 6' 2".

[@anthonyrivera2306]

@@jacobwilkins8761 If he gets better at shooting from 3, get some towers in the paint.

[@Raydogs]

​@@jacobwilkins8761literally elite shooters in college, if you tell me scoot is an elite shooting prospect I can get on board, but you can't. It's basketball, ultimately no such thing as too little shooting. Curry proved a lot more before getting drafted

[@jacobwilkins8761]

​@@Raydogs I'm not saying Scoot will be as good as Curry, but I was saying that it is factually wrong that you need a guard taller than 6' 2" (or even a tall lineup? Hello, the Warriors?) to win in this league. Curry was also injury-prone and didn't amount to much until his fifth year in the league. Let Scoot be Scoot and find his way. I'm encouraged by his motor. Maybe he's not a winner, but I don't see how Russell Westbrook's career isn't within his grasp assuming his shooting never improves.

[@jameswright3410]

Not only is Scoot the right pick over Miller, Scoot's the right pick over LaMelo.

[@NICEisNICE]

Damn this is stupid...lmao!!!!

[@TheBrooklynthrone]

You sound dumb lmao

[@MerkinMuffly]

Kevin O Clueless has the worst draft takes

[@RKWDBMX]

imagine being drafted to th hornets. prayers up

[@thesnorman5666]

I’m imagining it and it sounds like a sweet payday. I’d be pretty happy.

[@RKWDBMX]

@@thesnorman5666 I have lots of money so I would be sad :(

[@shadow_realm47]

@@RKWDBMX 👀 you have NBA max money bruh? Fr dog?

[@RKWDBMX]

@@shadow_realm47 I shit diamonds

[@glennrichardtrinidad4171]

Being drafted by an nba team with a paycheck like that? How is that not a win?

[@wooskionehundred1788]

Miller screams a superstar!!! Very confident, can shoot, pass, and can create space. 6’8 shooting guard.

[@mathewdavis2427]

Screams solid role player. Scoot screams future HoFer

[@wooskionehundred1788]

@@mathewdavis2427 what about him screams role player?

[@MeechG]

​@@mathewdavis2427a 6'9 player with a jumpshot in todays NBA is more valuable than a 6'2 player with athleticism.

[@erikhug988]

Brandon Miller will be *really* good in a few years. I don’t hesitate to say *great*. I used the poor vocabulary on purpose. I also have a poor vocabulary *but* if he embodies PG’s mindset, it’s more echoing what sounds right. PG and Brandon Miller know what *sounds right* but don’t embody it like a Kobe/Mike/Jimmy. Almost no one does so he’s worth a #2 pick, but he won’t be a regular top 10 player. That’s okay!

[@Enfield14]

This KOC take is going to be so funny in a couple years scoot was the pick 😂 3 level scorer athletic freak

[@andrewshandle]

How is he a three level scorer when he shots 27.5% from 3?

[@jimbaker5110]

How does KOC still have a job?

[@Sirdutcharlesthe63rd]

Y’all dl me p on Okc though. Another big draft: a lot of great players. Kia they have a content superstar and more and more. Look forward to the off-season content.

[@kgosiitsilemodisaesi7580]

The Magic and Larry poster behind Bill 😂😂😂, damn Magic caked up 🤣🤣🤣

[@christophermoody6840]

Brandon Miller is the Keegan Murray of this year's draft... But Scoot Henderson is the next Ja Morant.

[@Raydogs]

You don't watch basketball, Murray different player in college, Morant proven scorer on college, Scoot hasn't proven anything like it. Just choosing random players to fit narrative. Should just say I like scoot but I have no good reason other than what my gut says

[@joeyopinions]

you don’t watch film these bots going crazy

[@MeechG]

Ja was a way better player than Scoot coming into the league. No shots at Scoot

[@albase9285]

Lmao you still feel that way???!!!

[@Bewbscueser]

If I'm Portland I move Lillard and Simons. You make the best deal you can for Dame, my assumption is they'll have their choice of deals either built around an established younger player or pure draft capital and flip Simons to any number of teams needing a shot creator and round out the roster with the best role players you can find. If they're able to just take back expiring contracts to make the money work they are set up with a dynamic young backcourt, a ton of draft capital and crucially flexibility moving forward. The new CBA is going to challenge front offices to turn their rosters over to avoid that punitive second apron. Moving Simons as well as Lillard gives Scoot and Sharpe room to grow without someone like Simons who's priority may very well be getting another huge payday. If Portland keeps Dame I think it's a mistake. The middle course keeps you on the treadmill of too good to get elite talent in the draft but not good enough to compete for a title.

[@andrewshandle]

The Ringer, and Bill in particular, keeps talking about Scoot being this culture changer who only cares about basketball, but there are reports that he coasted all year because he knew he was a top 2 pick...they can't have it both ways. Maybe he'll be good, but from what we know, Scoot's a small guard (6'2"), doesn't defend, can't shoot (eFG% of 45.5 would have been 2nd worst in the NBA last year, only above Killian Hayes, so he's not even "iiffy" as KoC said, he's flat out bad) and coasted most of the year. Scoot feels like the kind of guy that'll be great for a Sports Center highlight or two a game, but when you look at the box score we went 6 for 18 and Portland lost by 10.

[@gallenberger1]

If KOC likes it then you should be worried

[@michaelwatkins9479]

Die hard Charlotte fan my whole life (yeah…I know). I’m cool with Brandon miller, only because we need help at EVERY position. But if we passed on scoot because “we already have a gaurd” is stupid lol. Melos been injured EVERY YEAR since he’s been drafted. Terry rozier is not a point gaurd. Also, we were starting guys like Dennis smith jr, Theo maledon, Bryce mcgowens and even Isaiah Thomas. Anybody who says “Charlotte has lamelo, they don’t need another gaurd”, obviously didn’t watch a single hornets game last year. We had games where we could only dress 8 players. Either way, I’m excited to watch us win 30 games next year lol

[@nook5907]

Charlotte fans are literally Garbage so yo opinion doesn’t matter my boii! I watched multiple games of both an Miller is a better passer, shooter and defender. Scoot averaged 5 assist an 4 TO’s because his dribble is suspect for a franchise PG an he is too small to see over the D. He drives into the defense a lot an that’s in the G league where they not even tryna play D. Bouk goes to the G league an Drops 40 wit ease an can’t earn a rotation spot. Scoot averaged 16 while making all the decisions 😭😭 scoot will be a 6th man he not better the DSJ, Collin sexton , Jordan Clarkson nor RJ Barrett an these are regular NBA guys yet y’all want to draft him over the 6’9” shooter who takes pride in the actual game of basketball. He dropped 40 the day after all that happened with the death so that shows where his head is he also has hit college buzzer beaters but u dumb mfs wanna choose scoot because the media said it to promote the G league. Y’all are clowns an I’m glad y’all bood that man because when he becomes the better player y’all can remember wat the hornets fans does to their players. I watched it with Melo, Miles, Malik Monk an many more. Y’all don’t kno how to appreciate what u have Stfu an watch the games

[@albase9285]

You have a point on the injury history of the Hornets but you damn sure owe Brandon an apology along with all my other Charlotte Fan comtemporaries. smh Brandon ha s been ballin'!!!

[@michaelwatkins9479]

@@albase9285 sure. He’s been balling. But I was right as well. Melos been injured and we have no depth at point guard.

[@justinah7400]

Lillard can take a hike. Scoot is the man who has the it factor and he actually plays defense. Lillard can go somewhere else to be a lazy defender and shoot halfcourt shots with a full shot clock left

[@nahova3167]

Welp😭😭😭

[@WHlSKYtx]

O Max to Dallas 👏🏻

[@jackbombay1423]

If Brandon Miller really said that PG is the GOAT and that he sees Charlotte playing the finals next year, then that´s a HUGE red flag.

[@guanoguy4800]

He must’ve been watching PG during the Indiana vs Miami, one sided rivalry

[@UIMGodzilla]

Miller potential is like 80% of what Tatum is now. Scoot potential is like if prime kemba had Anthony Edwards athleticism

[@shadow_realm47]

Fox with Westbrook vibes. Feel like he's gonna take this personal.

[@andrewshandle]

@@shadow_realm47 it took Fox _six_ years to be good. It was only a year ago when Kings fans were pissed they traded Halliburton and kept Fox, so not sure that's a positive comparison. If it's 2028 and Portland fans are wonder if Scoot can finally put together a good season, then it's a bad pick.

[@nicyee3701]

​@@andrewshandleFox has always been this good. Casuals like you wouldn't know that because his team was lacking. He has been a dog since he had the fro in 2018.

[@andrewshandle]

@@nicyee3701 lol, sure chief. It took him six years to become a league average shooter, and until this season where he was excellent in the 4th Quarter and clutch him, he was one of the worst players in all of basketball during the 4th and clutch. Until this season Fox was a disappointment, arguing otherwise is revisionist history. Any non-casual should know that. Listen, it happens sometimes, most notably Kyle Lowry, but nobody's out here defending the start of Lowry's career saying he was good his first 5 years. If they did, they'd be a clown just like you defending Fox makes you look like a clown.

[@nicyee3701]

@@andrewshandle That doesn't matter though Fox was never bad at shooting compared to Scoot. He was also a great facilitator and had this motor when he was a rookie. Fox was also a dog on defense people he has always been a top 3 player from his draft since he stepped in the league.

[@Ram-zc4fi]

Tempting trade offer: Shaedon Sharpe for Nick Richards

[@Bobbleheads56]

Pretty amazing that these type of guys can get away with murder because they are good at bouncing the basketball

[@myaheadhurts2]

Hey man. He can score too.

[@LukaLegend77]

he didnt kill anyone tho

[@EzMoneyMir]

The media pushed scoot so much that casuals think miller is trash

[@albase9285]

Right!!!! smh

[@andrewshandle]

If Scoot's name wasn't "Scoot" and instead like "Bryan", he'd never have this much hype, but media and fans love them a great story. At some point, what the kid actually did on the court has to matter, and I don't mean cherry picking a few high light plays here and there. In the games he did play, Scoot dominated the ball and shot horribly, didn't defend and ended up with a -2.5 net rating. The idea that he's going to walk in to the NBA and succeed because "he's competitive" is silly, there are thousands of kids who are competitive who don't make it every year, it's because at some point, skill set and actual ability matters.

[@chipbobson992]

“Scoot doesn’t defend” you’re ignorant

[@onemanonevote4223]

😂 yes best pick for fit. But I still think he has some character concerns. Although he won’t faces any charges, it’s a major concern for me. Scoot may become a better player and is a much more likable guy compared to Miller. However, scoot really Hass to be in the correct environment in order to be successful.

[@j-us-t_be-in-g]

Character concerns such as?! Lol. What are these concerns you think he has?!

[@AceManning18]

@@j-us-t_be-in-g nothing major just a small case of (allegedly) providing an unregistered illegal weapon to a teammate to shoot someone with (at the very least providing the transportation to do it) I'm sure it's the white man/medias fault though. Lmao.

[@smokealltheteklesandthechi1906]

​@@j-us-t_be-in-ghe is a fuckin ninja...

[@onemanonevote4223]

@@j-us-t_be-in-g one of his friends murder someone and etc. you should read about it, it’s mess up.

[@onemanonevote4223]

@@smokealltheteklesandthechi1906 Feel better?

[@ZJ-ne9kn]

I would've picked Scoot. Are we just gonna forget about Miller's terrible tourney? Am i the only one who remembers that? 😂

[@biggest_slime6134]

Why he doesn’t even fit wit lamelo their games don’t benefit each other at all both need ball in their hands

[@albase9285]

Doesn't look like the tourney made a difference in Miller's ability to acclaimate to the NBA. He has taken to the league like fish to water. Scoot, not so much...

[@n00utz81]

Yes because they already have someone who plays Scoots position and its a known fact two small guards who dominate the ball aren't winning a championship.

[@prestonjones1415]

But Lamelo is 6'7

[@n00utz81]

@@prestonjones1415 but he plays on the perimeter and isn't physical (shoots way too many ill advised 3's). Maybe if he changes his approach he can use his height to his advantage but he wastes tons of possessions each game trying to be Steph Curry.

[@prestonjones1415]

@@n00utz81 he definitely has flaws. I'm just saying LaMelo isn't a small guard. He could easily slide over to the 2 and it could work if Scoot is that guy. I also have no problem with the miller pick

[@not_stephen_a_smith849]

Strip clubs, guns, legal trouble, second pick over all in the nba draft. Ja and brandon miller … I would not have drafted brandon because character matters

[@Jawnderlust]

The moment KOC stole ownership of the Ringer from Bill.

[@Sirdutcharlesthe63rd]

Portland has 4 legit guard in the backfield. And grant. It’s an interesting team, they could be a reeves and Vamderbilt away and then it’s like holy shit

[@Lebronluver321]

Man as long as they have nurkic they not doing shit, they really dont have enough size to compete love their guards but gotta trade one for a siakam or jarret allen

[@LukaLegend77]

who is the 4th guard?

[@emperorburton]

@@LukaLegend77Lillard, Simons, Sharpe, Henderson

[@LukaLegend77]

@@emperorburton i see sharpe more of a SF especially with another guard added

[@nicyee3701]

Good undersized guards that don't play a lick of D.

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

Thompson twins are going to be better than both Scoot and Miller- book it!!

[@WarrantChen]

Thompson twins are gonna be better than Miller not Scoot though

[@cissem4025]

facts

[@kalhoon44dayinthelife46]

Dame is not being traded

[@bryannixon4297]

Looks like all of us saying Miller is overrated were right.

[@SonnyK248]

I can kind of see this from two perspectives. On the one hand the most valuable thing you can have on your team today to get the best out of your team and your superstar is having starter calibre players who can shoot the lights out. And Miller can probably become a contending team level starter and he can shoot the ball. Jokic and Denver benefit massively from always having MPJ and Murray on the floor because of their lights out shooting. So Miller will be a valuable asset. But on the other hand I can see Scoot becoming a superstar. He could become even better than Miller and Melo and then they will have to think about what could have been.

[@prestonkelly4825]

I don’t see a way how a 6’2 point guard who can’t shoot can be any better than a 6’8 pg who can shoot, and playmake ten times better

[@SonnyK248]

@@prestonkelly4825 I don’t understand the 6’2 thing 😂 he’s not Curry. Dude is built like a tank, is hyper athletic and has a 6’9 wingspan. He’s got a great frame for a modern PG. He’s going to be too athletic and strong to be bullied by other guards three or four inches taller than him and his long arms firstly will make it tough for other guards take advantage of his height and shoot over him and they’ll also give him a very low center of gravity so dribbling past him will be very difficult. Also I have more faith in Scoot improving his shot than I do Melo learning how to play defence 👌

[@prestonkelly4825]

@@SonnyK248 bc no matter how u put it, he’s 6’2. That’s gonna matter when dudes that r just as athletic as him guards him up. Now he is very quick and explosive and has an incredibly fast first step, but he didn’t finish as well in the g-league as I expected him to, I think he’ll improve on that but how much I don’t know. And the reason y that height matters is exactly bc defense. Now I’m not someone who’s gonna say Melo can b a good on ball defender hell no and Scoot has the tools too, but if the person is even 3-4 inches taller (like half the league) and marginally athletic, Scoot gonna be cooked, bc ur either just shooting up over him or taking his ass down to the post and feasting. Now Melo can be a great team defender (already think he’s p good rn as is, decent help guy and clogs up passing lanes well) and I feel like his iq’s higher than Scoots which helps, and even though I do see Scoot improving his shot, I’m just as confident as Melo staying far ahead of him as a playmaker and decision maker, while still being a better shooter and overall scorer, I’m also confident that B Miller will also blossom his creation ability to be a great 2nd option and ball handler alongside Melo bc there’s been heavy flashes and vast improvement throughout his rookie season alone in that department. I think Melo will stay comfortably ahead of Scoot as a better player, but even though I do see him and Miller’s ceiling being very similar (I don’t think either r 1st options on a chip team), I do think Scoot will be more “high regarded”. Like PG and Westbrook

[@SonnyK248]

@@prestonkelly4825 a young Westbrook is a really good comp for Scoot. They are about the same size and are both explosive athletes. But every time someone is compared to Westbrook everyone just assumes that they wont be able to shoot and they wont become a good defender because Westbrook didn't. But Westbrook wasn't incapable of improving these things he just didn't want to. He actually played some really good defense last season as an old man. Also Westbook is one of the greats. I highly doubt Melo will reach the close to the heights that Russ did even though like you said with Scoot, Melo is a better passer and shooter than Russ probably ever was. Melo would literally have to become one of the best players in the league to be on prime Russ' level. Honestly though, when you're the franchise guy on a team, shooting isn't paramount. You can get others to stretch the floor for you. Lebron wasn't the greatest shooter, Luca isn't the greatest shooter. Giannis is a bad shooter. When you're an extremely skilled hyper athletic player like Scoot, that can carry you to stardom. Derrick Rose was another 6'3 guy who dominated the league before he got injured and he didn't have a great shot. He didn't need one.

[@prestonkelly4825]

@@SonnyK248 Westbrook is a better comp, but IMO every time I see him play I just see Steve Francis w a better jumper. I think his Jumper will improve over time, but he’s definitely no D Rose. D Rose had a certain level of finesse and was seemingly able to float like MJ, Scoot doesn’t have that level of athletic ability when it comes to verticality, maybe im biased bc D rose is my fav player ever, but I just don’t see that in him, I see much more of an aggressive Westbrook like athleticism in him. That being said, who said Melo can’t be a top 5 player in this league? You just agreed w me that he has abilities neither Westbrook or Scoot has, granted they’re obviously better defensively but at least Melo has the tools to be a decent defender. Melo is one of the best passer playmakers in the league and he has the talent to be one of the best we’ve ever seen all in a 6’8 frame that isn’t finished growing yet with better shooting touch than both Scoot and Westbrook. Not saying he will be better than Westbrook (even though he’s having better seasons than Westbrook @ his age), but he fs has the talent to be better than him.

[@WarrantChen]

Brandon Miller is at best a Khris Middleton and maybe Jeff Green type of player. Scoot Henderson is more of a Anthony Edwards or when he gets better with his shooting might be donavan Mitchell.

[@albase9285]

Wow Brandon is proving a lot of you all wrong...but we'll see in a couple more years. I hope Scoot doesn't keep having to go to the G-League though. hehehehe

[@WarrantChen]

@@albase9285 This is beginning of the season. Brandon Miller scoring 15 points in eastern conference dude that's khris middleton numbers I didn't say he was a bust, he's khris middleton. Watch Scoot as he develops.

[@TheBrooklynthrone]

@@WarrantChenbro you know it’s the same for miller he has a ceiling too wtf how about you watch miller as he goes do you understand the minute miller develops his handles he will be the reincarnation of Paul George

[@cissem4025]

ant edwards 😂😂

[@AM-yq4pe]

i swearn scoot looks taller than 6 2

[@genesmith3582]

he plays bigger with the long arms and huge hands.

[@josephvanhorn5347]

I know almost nothing about Scoot or Pistol B Miller. Charlotte doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt. They probably screwed up.

[@TRiLLzPaSSioN]

No.

[@hammerdon1962]

They're trying to compare Scoot with Derrick Rose. Personally he reminds me more of Pat Bev.

[@TheFilmSpace1]

KOC said Killian Hayes would be great…….. so now this Miller thing looks bad

[@NiteOwlVibes]

Players with a chip on their shoulder or who think can go number 1 don't exist anymore. That's all just something owners want to hear, almost like an alpha work hard mentality. All players say that shit, none on them mean it, they are told before the draft who the clear #1 favorite is. It's 2023, they don't care about the team, they don't care about the city, they only care about that $$$. And who can blame them?

[@rodneyperry7940]

I have a feeling Dame somehow ends up at the Lakers, even though it makes no financial sense.

[@IndieGamerChick]

I can't believe we're still talking about heigth in the NBA when the Warriors won two rings without a real center. Teams keep making the Finals without "bigs" so can we PLEASE get off this? Even the GMs have gotten it. Tons and tons of bigs went undrafted yesterday. Guys who would have been first rounders a decade ago, if not lottery picks outright.

[@shorewall]

The Nuggets just bullied the Heat in the Finals. The Lakers beat the Warriors. And the Warriors having KD on their team isn't a blueprint to follow.

[@sergeynazaro1768]

Warriors are an OUTLIER they also are bullring around STEPHEN CURRY

[@IndieGamerChick]

@@shorewall We won before and after KD, you know. Granted, we had Bogut the first time, but who was our center for ring #4? Looney? Hah.

[@shadow_realm47]

@@IndieGamerChick both before and after KD the warriors had above average centers, put some respect on Looney's name he had a once in a life time finals run.

[@Samsonmanase]

Scoot is like when bulls drafted Jordan he should’ve been picked

[@andrewshandle]

lol, you're comparing Scoot to MJ? JFC, he isn't _close_ to what Jordan was when drafted.

[@Grimmes12]

Dame for /Harris & Thybule and a 1st Harden signs with Houston

[@exitscreaming4637]

Marion Cobretti

[@nicholasadams5023]

Scoot will be better. People put too much stock in shooting

[@adee1626]

This is the nba man what are you watching.

[@nicholasadams5023]

Jabari Smith was a better shooter than Paolo Banchero. Media projected him to go #1 last year because of shooting. Paolo went number 1 instead and is a way better player regardless of shooting. Like I said people put too much stock in shooting. That’s not the only valuable skill.

[@adee1626]

@@nicholasadams5023 banchero is 6’10 with handles , mid range , post game. Don’t compare that to a guy who is 6’2 who’s whole game is getting to the rim. This isn’t the G league anymore

[@roycedot]

Scoot couldn't co-exist with LaMelo running point. Regardless, hopefully Brandon Miller can break the Hornets lottery draft curse.

[@genesmith3582]

that's why you trade LaMelo, who has injury prone written all over him.

[@nook5907]

@@genesmith3582mf scoot shut his season short cause of injuries plus he doesn’t do nun but dunk so that’s more of an injury risk. All rookies struggle wit injuries those 1st 3 years because their body isn’t adjusted. An u don’t trade melo cause u want scoot 😭😭 that’s how u make the worst decision next to trading Kobe the the lakers because Scoot can’t fw a picture of Melo injured or not I’ll rather have the 1 with the #11 selling nba jersey an #1 shoe sell amongst the rising stars, that’s including Luka and zion both Jordan brand. He is the solo reason why Jordan bought the team for 250,000 an sold it for 3 billion. Melo is the money he has proven his games translates an he’s honestly a top 5 pg in the NBA in jus his 3rd year. How u gone trade him when that’s the whole reason they bought the shares lmao mf Goofy y’all be eating scoot an ain’t even watched him play. Brandon was the better Player, fit, has the higher ceiling an floor. Even if scoot is everything y’all think he is all Brandon has to be is a catch an shoot ball mover who can guard an bow still the right pick, rather have that than a Westbrook which is a horrible comparison because he can’t pass nor rebound as well. He gone average Westbrook TOs tho

[@genesmith3582]

@@nook5907 uh, if we need anyone to write an incoherent book about basketball, we know where to find you. But leave the real basketball analysis to somebody else. Lamelo is a nice offensive player, he's got some large defensive issues and he's not a work ethic, nor weight room guy. He's got questionable ankles and a slim build. It's not that he isn't a stud, it's that Scoot will be better and more durable..... and you can book that.

[@albase9285]

Looks like Miller is currently doing that!!!

[@TheBrooklynthrone]

@@genesmith3582this did not age well lmao

[@87ondabeat42]

When Brandon Miller passes, his teammates always kill women.

[@mattpitman758]

In 5 years, this will be funny, guards are a dime a dozen

[@Parentingautisminnyc]

I would of traded for Zion

[@MakingMovesMajor]

Scoot can't shoot.

[@therockneverstops8261]

The pick was Scoot. Period. Miller may have been a safe pick but they’ll regret it. Scoot will not be picked on with a 6’9 wingspan and built like a tank and ultra competitive. This was Michael Jordan’s last 🖕 draft selection.

[@Mskedu47]

Scoot is like 6 feet tall and can’t shoot, what are we talking about?

[@genesmith3582]

do you actually watch basketball ?

[@theman9048]

He can shoot

[@noamilan5950]

Mike miller> Brandon miller

[@MacNif]

Bates is better than BOTH

[@4ktkaram395]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@HawgJawn]

Why is everyone acting like Miami needs to blow their team apart? They just got to the finals. Dame trade is a trap.

[@stinkyfingers1617]

First byyyyyahhhh

[@WheresWaldo05]

All Brandon can do is shoot. They are the same level defenders when engaged. Scoot is 6'3" not 6'2". But more importantly he has a 6'9" wingspan. So his actual height is irrelevant. Scoot can playmake WAY more than Miller. Scoot improved by 10% from 3 point up to 32%. Really only needs to get up to 36% to be at Ant Edwards level. Oh and btw he does everything Ant can do offensively. But is elite in the mid range and getting to the hoop. Big L by Hornets. Miller has major downside and risk if being a bust. At worst, Scoot is Steve Francis.

[@gc1314]

Franchise

[@andrewshandle]

Scoot shot 27.5% from 3, not 32%. He has an eFG of 45.5% which would have been 2nd last in the NBA last season, the dude flat out cannot shot. You watch a few video clips of him hitting a pull up shot or two and just assume that happens all the time, but in reality he is 6 for 14 a game for his career with -2.5 Net Rating when he's on the court. And you say he's "at worse, Steve Francis", Francis at the same age had a eFG of 58% in college in twice as many games! Year 19 Francis destroys year 19 Scoot. Whatever you think of Miller, he can shoot and defend, so his floor is much higher than Scoot's who might be a total bust if he can't figure out how to shoot even a tiny bit.

[@Hooch_is_crzy]

@@andrewshandle you logic is a bit flawed. Scoot's sample size is hard to determine if he is a bad shooter or not... WE knew Steve Francis was streaky at best.

[@andrewshandle]

@@Hooch_is_crzy So rather than taking into account the 268 shots he took in 2022/23 we should just assume he'll be better? That doesn't make much sense. Doing some checking today, I literally cannot find a single guard drafted in the last decade who shot as poorly as Scoot did this year. Not one. That should at least be a concern. As for Francis, streaky or not, he was a _much_ better shooter than Scoot his one year in college and only took 392 shots, so Scoot took about 70% of the amount of shots. Francis was also above league average year 1 and 2 in the league! Other than both playing guard, they have nothing in common unless Scoot secretly hates Vancouver or something. ;)

[@Hooch_is_crzy]

@@andrewshandle you literally brought up francis... go find stats for him at 17 and 18... go ahead ill wait.

[@stackntax1308]

Show me a muscular PG in nba history that was elite?

[@Ranblv]

vinny microwave johnson baron davis

[@smokealltheteklesandthechi1906]

Derrick rose, Marbury, Westbrook...

[@JalenRawley]

To be fair, it depends on what you mean by muscular, and what you mean by PG: First of all, no guards come into the league built like Karl Malone. Even Karl Malone didnt come into the league built like that. Second, why would you add a ton of muscle and weight when that slows you down? As a young guard, your primary advantage is quickness and speed. You dont want to be frail, but you dont want to be 6'0" 235lbs and can lift a Volkswagon. Third, "point guard" is subjective. Who is the John Stockton of today's NBA? The NBA has been a combo guard league for quite a while now and a lot of shooting guards and point forwards have played the point guard position. Michael Jordan played the point in Chicago, he has muscles, and he's about as elite as your gonna get, right? Deron William's wasn't a lightweight. Baron Davis was beefy as hell and 6'5". Someone mentioned Vinny Johnson, a combo guard, which means you can definitely include Joe Dumars in there. Kidd wasn't weak and was 6'4". Gary Payton was strong. Allen Iverson was 5'10" but strong as hell. And hey, Magic Johnson was 6'9" and wasnt skinny as a rail, and even though he could play any position on the floor, he primarily played at point guard. And what about Lebron? He certainly played some PG over the years. So it's really easy to name a ton of elite players who played the point guard position that weren't tiny, skinny dudes. Your question is just far too broad and vague. You would need to specifically define "muscular" and "point guard", and even then you're just creating arbitrary subjective distinctions that can easily be countered. So what do you really mean? What's the real discussion here?

[@genesmith3582]

Lebron James

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

Wade was a SG but could play the point and he was jacked

[@audoko82]

Brandon Miller is a bust of the decade😂😂😂😂...just watch him play today against the Warrior..

[@TheBrooklynthrone]

this didn’t age well at all

[@XxerikpereyraxX]

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