Was He a Star in CS:GO? Top Streamer vs. Pro Career - Who is shroud? - CSGO / VALORANT

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Some thoughts on the professional esports career of shroud, one of the biggest streamers in the world.
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[@Heinzworthy]

I remember meeting shroud in Toronto at a faceit lan. He’s just the most laid back casual guy and I think that translated to his gameplay like you mentioned. Successful players have a drive to be the best in the world and shroud never seemed to show those qualities. I haven’t watched or played csgo in years but I’ll never forget how disgusting shrouds aim/movement was. Great video brought back a lot of good memories.

[@jimboc669]

Every time someone brings up Shroud's pro career, I just imagine the cloud9 roster being at a boot camp or practice environment, where everyone is focused and going through drills or tactics or whatever, and then shrouds just sitting there running dailies in wow in between rounds. Imagine being his teammate.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

If it doesn’t impact the practice at all, I don’t see a problem. If it does, then it is a problem.

[@H4FF]

I hate the narrative of Shroud somehow being the greatest in NA CS. People have no idea what they're talking about with regards to the history. All it takes is a look at his stats over the years. He got most of the views for pugstomping, not for his pro performance.but He is the perfect example of missed potential to me. Respect for the streaming grind, but he clearly does not have what it takes to become and remain a high level competitor. Thanks for the content, Thorin.

[@ihateeveryone8161]

That's just it, he had the skill to actually be the best, but he spent that talent in other ways instead of competitive success.

[@emerginggorilla]

Bro so true lmao shrouds time is over, and not just on twitch.

[@zeukri-5464]

@@ihateeveryone8161 he never did,he had the skill to be a good player,but never the best na player.

[@ricksimpson5563]

Sounds like he made a fuck lot of money and you guys are sitting here deskchairing his skill in a game no one cares about

[@NextDoorGuy]

@@ricksimpson5563 did we watch the same video or are you lost on KZbin, cause thats the exact point of the video

[@-crypt0]

Thorin is surely the historian, great asset for the game, as a recommendation, I think adding clips of the events/historical moments that are part of the video would make it such an amazing way to relate to the events etc. Otherwise, top tier, keep at it Thorin

[@waves-]

It’s crazy to me that content this good is free Please keep it free

[@Diego-km2qr]

his sponsors and patreons are keeping it free

[@ur1m]

Another banger from the 'Who is' series.

[@RandomGuy-tc2yf]

The silence is deafening

[@izimon1]

stoic comment andy

[@Smittz]

n0thing was definitely a superstar in 1.6, man had his own peripherals when that wasn't even a thing yet

[@source.mydelusions]

From 19:10 its one of the reasons i watch thorin. Esports is fun but this guy produces so much value bringing motivation topics like that vídeo from "esports is a waste of time"

[@Zorkz]

it baffles me how shahzam made it in valorant because of how shit he was in CS

[@jimboc669]

Almost like it's just an easier version of cs

[@cr3amy479]

All top players are in CS..if t1 cs player start to move to valorent ,would be bad news for lots of valorent players.

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

I absolutely shit on everyone in valorant in any rank until I lost track of new characters and stopped playing. But I can’t break A+ in ESEA.

[@kieran2260]

@@cr3amy479 not true bro, when it comes down to it theyre completely different games. CS is about perfecting an execute, where as valorant is much more unpredictable. some T1 CS players cant adapt to that as well as the ex CS T2 pro's who switched. CS is very straight forward compared to valorant, meaning val demands more iq. the only thing holding valorant back is the maturity of the community, everyones a troll or an edge lord

[@KaiserJusi]

@@kieran2260 i think any T1 CS pro can be one of the best in pro val if they choose to grind it, which means backing out of the pro CS scene. Valorant, to me, is too random, too many angles, maps dont make sense, casual friendly spray/recoil, and somehow players with bad mechanics can get away often compared to CS where bad mechanics are definitely punished. I'd still prefer CS tho, discovering and perfecting nade spots, performing execs, and honing your mechanics to perfection is just sounds better and rewarding.

[@dark_sunset]

@Thooorin it might help your voice to sound better if you turn down your mic recording volume in Windows. It seems to be clipping/distorting sometimes. Idk if you care, just putting that out there

[@smr_0172]

his gain is always so fucking high. and since he's so loud it always clips. should srsly lower it or have a better filter or some shit

[@DaMeLoFeLo]

Came for a essay on shroud, left with my balls 10x heavier from the surprise motivational speech!

[@frog382]

Extremely well put. He is one of the most overrated players because of his habit to go and stream a MM game or some other game full of noobs and shit on everyone.

[@suide3275]

Ah i did hope thoring still had GamerSupps as sponsor

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

Shroud was a star. I don’t believe that is up for debate. What could be up for debate is whether he deserved his celebrity. Scream is similar, he was infamous for is ed shots and every gold nova player in the world with a HS rate about 20% wanted to emulate him, but he’s just an amazing aimer, but not a great CS player. Shroud is in a similar position, all his pugstomp clips on client come off to players that don’t know any better as a more important match than it is. Majority of his clips are just esea pug or mm stomps.

[@beanburritocs]

ScreaM was at times one of the best players in the world - shroud was not

[@touken201]

thank you for the content!

[@MrMatom55]

🤡

[@joao.ribeiro]

cool video as always!

[@MrMatom55]

🤡

[@nykxssss]

i always wondered if he has some kind of script or its all of the dome from the second he introduces his topic. he prob mentioned it somehwere but i only watch a few videos here and there, so might ahve missed it edit: with script i mean he has some pointers on what he wants to talk about at the very least, mby some small lines to not get sidetracked to much.

[@christanweber5581]

Shroud was a star for a short while, but at the end of the day he’s far better at streaming/entertainment. People seem to forget that he had numbers close to ninja for a good while back in the pubg days. And also, one of the best pubg players to exist back in those days.

[@HeadshotaZ731]

15:37 Twistzz?

[@evolvedHE]

Great video ❤️

[@gmnr1336]

I have no nostalgia for shroud at all, I barley watched CSGO during his time, nor do I miss him in competitive CS, but I am grateful. It was because of him many people began to play FPS games in general in NA, and strive to gain aim like the one they saw on their monitors screen, glued to shrouds stream. I’m grateful for all the memories he gave.

[@bon3z810]

He was a god on pugs but on pro? Nah. No hate man I just hate kids talking shroud the best NA player, aimer of all time. Man hasn't won any and also he was never on the hltv top 20. Ever.

[@DREAMWORKERSKY]

WHERE WE DROPPING BOYS

[@mrantsycs]

I got so early to this upload that the quality is 360p. cool

[@Bezmenov93]

Great video.

[@qugo8158]

Shroud had the talent, but he lacked the work ethic and drive to be a true professional

[@finnyyy-]

100% agree i saw comments when he switched to valorant like NA legend has returned. Like what? He was pretty mediocre as a pro player but a great pub stomper

[@maxpower5703]

Good video

[@Miroo777]

360p true fan

[@hyptnotic]

Hey thorin theres no audio in the video just saying

[@ihateeveryone8161]

There very much is audio, your shit is busted.

[@MrMatom55]

Any lip readers?

[@neptunexii8927]

banger

[@julianw5405]

Every once in a while I check in on the KZbin and stop being annoyed that he’s blocked me on twitter

[@tenan757]

Sounds like you’re still a bit emotionally attached, let it go bro

[@F4aXxZ]

defo not mentally ill

[@evanstevens3201]

And you came to his KZbin comments for self gratification

[@CanularRadio]

It's gonna be ok

[@vivekbure98]

Most overrated player ever

[@jeremy5077]

Salt mining I see

[@nogitsune4542]

thorin, please tell me how can u call 2015 fnatic the best cs team ever when 2018 astralis existed?? 2018 astralis was the best team in any esport or sport regardless, of all time with no questions asked. never ever has there been a strech of time where the same team DESTROYED EVERYONE ELSE like Astralis did. Fnatic 2015 u could argue that VP always was just around the corner to be the new n1 team. not with astralis tho the gap between 2018 astralis and the 2nd ranked team in 2018 were galaxies apart. srsly, astralis smoked them 16-5, 16-3 every game...

[@kalisti2323]

'DESTROYED EVERYONE ELSE' 87-0... or, what thorin says, either way, astralis is down the list. They're at the top for many other things, not everything though.

[@VasyaTemSauce]

Re-watch the video. He said Fnatic were the best team in the world/ever in CSGO... AT THE TIME. Meaning at that point in 2015. So obviously that was prior to Astralis 2018 existing lol.

[@w90213kjfdjn]

m4a1s is overpowered and csgo devs don't care about balance therefore it's a waste of time to play csgo.

[@iRiDiKi]

Aren't there clips of shroud cheating while streaming? I remember watching those super sus clips and not understanding why anyone took him seriously ever since. Did enough time pass to where people forgot or is him snapping onto people speedhacking and onto teammates, let alone enemy players not sus anymore?

[@jimboc669]

Not sure if copypasta or just blatant autism

[@ricksimpson5563]

Who even cares lmao. He was a pro player, became a top streamer, and made a fortune. The amount of hate towards this dude just because he got famous for streaming pubg is comical

[@Thooorin]

You cared enough to whine here

[@jimboc669]

The hate is towards the deluded 12 year olds crying that he was the best player during his career, when in reality he was just kinda meh and never lived up to his online hype

[@ricksimpson5563]

@@jimboc669 had enough success for someone to make a whole video about it LOL then whine about caring enough to spend 5 seconds typing a comment. just funny to me. i dont think anyone actually thinks he was the best counterstrike player ever. people just liked watching him pull 50 pieces in pubg matches

[@-sutra]

@@ricksimpson5563 probably best that you don’t comment on things you have no clue about.

[@ricksimpson5563]

@@-sutra hahaha shut up crybaby