Was ist die Hydropneumatik?

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@ВадимУфа-у3з
@ВадимУфа-у3з 4 жыл бұрын
Гениальное изобретение,никто не мог с ситроеном конкурировать ,все хваленые мерсы,Ауди и БМВ не могли такого предоставить,честь и хвала французским инженерам за это
@jamespower7130
@jamespower7130 Жыл бұрын
Tout à fait d'accord!! Merci De la part d’ un français ...
@macdieter23558
@macdieter23558 Жыл бұрын
I have so much good and funny memories about the hydropneumatic susension of my late XM! - One day on my way home I came across a street flooding. The fire department stopped all cars and told them to take another route. I just smiled, put the lever at full height, the car lifted up. The fireman´s jaw dropped, then he smiled and waved me through. I reached the other side of the flooding without any problem. - Another day I returned a borrowed trailer to my local hardware store. The man told me I had to wait until a man was available to unhook the trailer. So I took a little ball to unlock the lever, released the electrical connection, extended the third wheel, then I entered the car, lowered the car, drove a few feet forward and lifted the car back up. Another customer who had witnessed the whole thing, looked at his beer bottle, looked at my car, back to the beer bottle, then he threw away the bottle! - When I worked as site supervisor for the german railway I had a deployment to a railway crossing that was located in the middle of a forest. Due to the fact that the forest path was normally used by communal vehicles it was pretty overgrown. The security personnel that were with me had to leave their cars at a parking lot half a mile from the crossing. So I invited them to a ride in my XM. They were astonished when I pulled the lever to full height and the fully occupied car lifted up and glided above the underbrush. Two weeks later two of the security guys had bought Citroens for themselves! A few months later I was located at the railway technical warehouse in our district. A colleague called because he urgently needed some critical things which were pretty heavy. A coworker told me to take the truck to deliver, but that would have meant overtime and that I couldn´t return the truck because the company premises would have been locked up for the weekend. So I suggested to load the whole shipment into my Citroen station wagon. He agreed and told me that after delivering I could drive home. When everything was loaded in, the car looked like the axle wanted to break. I started the engine and after a short moment the car lifted up as if it was completely empty. Jaw drop # 1! I left the premises and drove to the construction site where my colleague waited with his VW LT truck. When I signaled him, he came down to me to help me lift the material onto his truck bed, but I put my lever to full height and the height was nearly level so we only had to shift it horizontally. Jaw drop #2. A nice way to start a weekend! - When I had a deployment to Bremen one day I was very late. My destination was not far from the last exit before the Bremen motorway junction. Dumb as I was I started to overtake another car short before my exit. With high speed I went into the exit, breaking and knowing that the bend got tighter in the end. Due to my experience with cars without hydropneumatique I expected to slide into the embankment and to roll over. But....in the moment the bend started and the car experienced the expected high g-forces, the computer reacted and stiffened the suspension to a racecar-like level which kept me in track and I reached the end of the bend safe and sound. The only thing harmed were my undertrousers! - A funny thing I used to do if I was in a traffic jam. Especially if there were children in the surrounding cars! Having nothing better to do, I started to let the car sink and rise, up and down. Then I watched the children´s excitement flare up, while my mimic pretended to be unaware of the reason for their excitement. Always funny! TL/DR: What a car!
@Kaustubhzombie
@Kaustubhzombie Жыл бұрын
I wish we had them in India.
@Ultimus_Romanorum_V
@Ultimus_Romanorum_V 2 ай бұрын
It's a good history 👍
@ggg2340
@ggg2340 8 жыл бұрын
Absolut genialer Promo-Streifen! 70er pur!
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 10 жыл бұрын
It is a shame that it never caught on. In every respect, comfort, safety, roadholding, the hydropneumatic suspension was by far surperior to everything else. I had two cars with the system and it proved to be very reliable, only slightly more cost of maintenance than normal suspension. Citroën does not do hydropneumatics anymore (hardly) because it was too expensive to make. Unfounded conservatism and financial thinking eventually killed a far superior system. A shame.
@oliverlucas5932
@oliverlucas5932 10 жыл бұрын
So true that. I still have a GSA. My brother had a light 16, numerous Ds and Cxs and GSs. My son also has had GSs and CXs. His last GS he turbo charged. Alas someone run into him and wrecked it.. They are the best car ever made. Though they had rotten stupid carburettors and the interior was poorly made. But they were popular enough in France I think.
@Sherukka
@Sherukka 9 жыл бұрын
Ronald de Rooij Maintenance is cheaper with nowadays hydropneumatic suspension than traditional thanks to that they are more reliable and need very seldom any maintenance (I know some 2008 C5 models came with bad parts but that is no more and not the fault of the system).
@Wok_Agenda
@Wok_Agenda 5 жыл бұрын
The whole world goes backwards these days so does technology
@gustavgnoettgen
@gustavgnoettgen 5 жыл бұрын
@@Wok_Agenda just like the Roman empire: first the big thing and stuff, progress everywhere - and then decadence, mistrust and then destabilization, and finally collapse. Better teach your children russian and chinese... 😐
@bangerbangerbro
@bangerbangerbro 4 жыл бұрын
Hydrolastic and hydragas are much simpler (I don't really know the details of how the Citroen system works) and work very well despite having a few disadvantages.
@raoulduke6043
@raoulduke6043 4 жыл бұрын
9:52 : "Oh, I feel already better! Thanks Citroen!"
@zolleegaspar8073
@zolleegaspar8073 3 жыл бұрын
Hidropneumatic Citroëns forever!🥰🇨🇵
@citroendrivervorever1148
@citroendrivervorever1148 9 жыл бұрын
Das Fahrgefühl von meinem damaligen GSA vermisse ich wohl , bis ich sterbe . Das war einmalig .
@gustavgnoettgen
@gustavgnoettgen 5 жыл бұрын
CX Break hier 😢
@cavallierbus7337
@cavallierbus7337 10 жыл бұрын
A SHAME THAT THE DS5 DOESN'T HAVE THIS KIND OF SUSPENSION AND COSTS MORE THAN C5.
@Pingu1302
@Pingu1302 4 жыл бұрын
Sehr schöner Beitrag. Vielen Dank fürs hochladen.
@raulamorena697
@raulamorena697 3 жыл бұрын
Andrés Citroen!!!!!! Un adelantado visionario y fantastico ingeniero no del siglo 20 si no del 22
@phsieben
@phsieben 6 жыл бұрын
Was für ein süßes Filmchen. :-)
@WIDUCKELGMBH
@WIDUCKELGMBH 8 жыл бұрын
Als ich las, dass die HP definitiv stirbt, hatte ich tatsächlich Tränen in den Augen. Denn die HP war eben typisch Citroën und ein Brückenschlag zwischen den goldenen Citroënzeiten und der Gegenwart. Ich freue mich auf den Sommer, wenn ich wieder BX fahren kann🤗.
@citroendrivervorever1148
@citroendrivervorever1148 7 жыл бұрын
Paul Philipp Hedderich nicht nur Du bist traurig darüber . Mein ältester wird in wenigen Wochen 18 und sich einen BX 19 TZi zugelegt und mein jüngster hat letztes Jahr noch mehr Glück gehabt und sich schonmal einen GSA Pallas vom Konfageld günstig gekauft und trocken eingelagert . Wir alle können es nicht verstehen , wie man so ein geniales Federungssystem als Autohersteller langsam eingehen lassen kann . Das war doch ua. mal das , was einen Citroen so besonders machte .
@outdoorheiko
@outdoorheiko 5 жыл бұрын
@@citroendrivervorever1148 , hatte früher auch einen GSA Pallas. Es war das genialste überhaupt mit dem Federungssystem. Es ruft auch bei mir Unverständnis hervor, das HP eingestampft zu haben.
@citroendrivervorever1148
@citroendrivervorever1148 5 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorheiko , mittlerweile hat mein Jüngster den Führerschein mit 17 ( begleitendes Fahren ) , der GSA sieht aus , wie neu und er ist in den letzten drei Monaten fast 5000km gefahren . Er liebt dieses Auto sehr und möchte nichts anderes mehr fahren . Den BX hat er von seinem Bruder für eine schmale Mark übernommen und steht in auch gutem Zustand in der Scheune.
@outdoorheiko
@outdoorheiko 5 жыл бұрын
@@citroendrivervorever1148 , coole Sache super. Finde ich gut wenn junge Leute sich für ältere Modelle interessieren.
@joshua.s.s
@joshua.s.s 3 жыл бұрын
Ich bin jetzt auch fast 19 und möchte mir als ersten Wagen unbedingt einen mit hydropneumatischer Federung kaufen, denke da an einen BX
@patrikkurmann7571
@patrikkurmann7571 11 жыл бұрын
Soooo guet !! Einfach und logisch !!
@finompunci5375
@finompunci5375 3 жыл бұрын
My C5 soo proud😘
@attilahorvatth7469
@attilahorvatth7469 3 жыл бұрын
Definitivly the best cars.Especially the XM
@ColonelAaron
@ColonelAaron 11 жыл бұрын
Auch im Jahre 2013 warten wir noch geduldig darauf, dass sich unser Citroen nach dem Start aufbockt, um den vollen Komfort genießen zu können, die die Hydropneumatik ermöglicht.
@beamerdiesel5348
@beamerdiesel5348 3 жыл бұрын
Ich vermisse die Hydropneumatik, schade das diese nicht mehr Gebaurt wird, Unser Xantia von 1997 hatte eine bequemere Federung als ein heutiger a6 Allroad mit Luftfederung!! Zu dem Konnte man den Xanta das Doppelt höher legen und Tieferlegen als mit der Normalen Luftfederung.
@nunojosedias6526
@nunojosedias6526 3 жыл бұрын
Ja das ist immer ein geiles Erlebnis mit der Hydropneumatik ... 😁😁
@michaelkuntner
@michaelkuntner 6 жыл бұрын
Tolles System, dass man uns leider heute vorenthält. Übrigens, die Hintergrundmusik der 70er kann einen epileptischen Anfall auslösen! ;-)
@blaucherfuchs1784
@blaucherfuchs1784 Жыл бұрын
The mistake of the current Citroen is to remove their legendary hydraulic suspension. Without that, it's not the same Citroen anymore. This is not the future I wanted to see in him. Andre Citroen is even more so.. I'm crying. Sedan, station wagon. Where is it all? Where are the hydraulics? Nowhere.. nowhere else.. now cardboard boxes will go and are not needed by anyone. The real and best Citroen will be in my heart forever, and in the past❤💔
@jamespower7130
@jamespower7130 Жыл бұрын
Vive l’ inventivité de nos ingénieurs français !!
@aviatorsbh
@aviatorsbh 11 жыл бұрын
1:27 "Ich komm dann morgen zurück zum Zahlen" Welche Werkstatt ist heute noch so vertrauensselig!?
@andreasm7490
@andreasm7490 5 жыл бұрын
So geschickt beim Xantia 👌❤
@jeremy-fu7un
@jeremy-fu7un 6 жыл бұрын
bien sur maintenant en 2018 à part les tapes culs modernes ont est plus capables de sortir des voitures avec un tel degré de confort de suspension,
@xm222
@xm222 4 жыл бұрын
Unique car and an interesting movie 👍🍾
@robertwa1975
@robertwa1975 11 жыл бұрын
Der Traction Avant war ab etwa 1954 optional mit einer Hydropneumatik zu haben, die aber nur an der Hinterachse Verwendung fand!
@johnnyhallyday8686
@johnnyhallyday8686 5 жыл бұрын
@the Game, Review and Reallife Channel Doch.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 3 жыл бұрын
@the Game, Review and Reallife Channel der Traction 15 six wahr mit hintere hydraupneumatische federung von 1954 bis 1956 gebaut, und genannt 15Six H
@beamboy07
@beamboy07 Жыл бұрын
Well done to these people who record this potentially lost footage
@mpctcfd1933
@mpctcfd1933 4 жыл бұрын
Dommage que se soit en allemand pour la question technique. J’aime bien le changement de roue et rouler sur 3 roues ! Merci
@davidcuadrado8429
@davidcuadrado8429 4 жыл бұрын
Vous aimez Citroën '. Moi aussi'.. 🇨🇵
@Dag-qe1vz
@Dag-qe1vz 4 жыл бұрын
Good job Citroen
@ademir-gutoenando5725
@ademir-gutoenando5725 4 жыл бұрын
Tenho um C5 exclusive 2010 com 85.000 km rodados , é meu xodó.
@rallyivan1234
@rallyivan1234 10 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a Mustang, Camaro or GTO doing this :3
@michodm26
@michodm26 5 жыл бұрын
Aguante Ayudin trucho jaja
@MrManniG
@MrManniG 12 жыл бұрын
Interesanter weise ist das wagen mit herkömmlicher Federung ein Tracion Avant (ich wies nich ob ich es richtig geschrieben habe), jedenfalls finde ich es vardammt fair von Citroen kein produktionsfremdes Fahrzeug zur demonstration des Komfortverlustes durch eine herkömmliche Federung gegenüber einer Hydropneumatik heranzusiehen. (PS: ich selbst fahre einen Peugeot, aber ein Freund von mir hatte bis vor Kurtzem einen C5 mit Hydropneumatik, musste ihn aber leider wegen des Spritverbrauchs abgeben)
@maxvall250
@maxvall250 10 жыл бұрын
klikkapo: the song name is: Jean Pierre Decerf - On the tenters
@gtm_1131
@gtm_1131 9 жыл бұрын
Anyone knows what the music that starts at 7:20 is called?
@pallasathena55
@pallasathena55 6 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find out?
@gtm_1131
@gtm_1131 3 ай бұрын
@@pallasathena55 I did, "On The Tenters" by Jean Pierre Decerf and Gerard Zajd
@HinnSara
@HinnSara 12 жыл бұрын
No Citroen cx, gx, and traction avant appeared in the video...
@JeanPierreDelaitre-gv6mq
@JeanPierreDelaitre-gv6mq Жыл бұрын
Je trouve très étonnant de voir tant d étrangers apprécier les anciennes voitures françaises. Pendant très longtemps, elles étaient considérées comme les pires véhicules au monde (moches et de mauvaises qualité surtout chez les anglophones (french bashing).
@moisesmonteiro4822
@moisesmonteiro4822 5 жыл бұрын
fantastico, deveria ser assim para todas suspensões nos carros do Brasil
@HoracioTempesta
@HoracioTempesta 12 жыл бұрын
12:25 12:28 ......it´s so cuuuute XD
@antonioliguori9906
@antonioliguori9906 2 жыл бұрын
Alla citroen forse hanno dimenticato che sospensioni usavano, anzi, togliamo il forse....la mia C3 è completamente differente dalla Xantia di mia cugina. Potrebbero essere proposte almeno a richiesta !
@carstenweiland7896
@carstenweiland7896 5 жыл бұрын
Habe vor kurzen einen C6 gekauft, es ist eine Schande, dass Citroen mit dieser Federung nicht mehr Erfolg hatte!
@ehcnjq
@ehcnjq 5 жыл бұрын
Citroen hatte diesen Erfolg!!! Das sieht man daren, dass heutige Nobelmarken (von Audi bis Rolls) dieses System abgekupfert haben, seit das Patent ausgelaufen ist! Davor haben sie es beschimpft ... weil sie (außer Rolls) die Patentgebühren nicht zahlen wollten!!!
@aaaabababa
@aaaabababa 5 жыл бұрын
@@ehcnjq Bei Mercedes ja das selbe, der W116 und W126 hatte Hydropneumatik als Topmodel, beim W123 war es meine ich auch eine Option.
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 3 жыл бұрын
@@ehcnjq Nein Es gab nie ein Audi mit hydraupneumatic, aber Rolls Royce undMercedes Benz ja
@ehcnjq
@ehcnjq 3 жыл бұрын
@@leneanderthalien Mein Fehler, Audi hatte "nur" mit Luftfederung herumexperimentiert ...
@alirezaamini2892
@alirezaamini2892 5 жыл бұрын
The video was old but it's useful
@sfjoos
@sfjoos 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. But don't tell Torsten Dupke this was a Video. He blamed me in public for calling it Video instead of a Film 🎥😅
@Pfirtzer
@Pfirtzer 8 жыл бұрын
Diese Promo erinnert an die 70ér Pornofilme, die Stimmen und alles um her um..
@WIDUCKELGMBH
@WIDUCKELGMBH 8 жыл бұрын
Pfirtzer das stimmt wohl, doch das mit Abstand pornöseste in dem Video ist ab Minute 10:08 der regattablaue CX GTi mit der schwarzweißen Lederausstattung🤗.
@vegetarierfurtierschutz8931
@vegetarierfurtierschutz8931 4 жыл бұрын
Perfekte Federung! Aber für die heutige Zeit leider zu teuer in der Produktion.
@erebostd
@erebostd 4 жыл бұрын
Mercedes bietet vergleichbares an.
@sfjoos
@sfjoos 4 жыл бұрын
Meint zumindest Peugeot. Tatsächlich wären viele Kunden bereit, für das Komfortplus 2-3000€ Aufpreis zu bezahlen, was die Sache auch wirtschaftlich machen würde. Mercedes und Co. legen für deren Luftfederoption auch nicht drauf! Im Gegenteil könnte man diese sehr wohl auch im kleineren Segment (Golf-Klasse) als Extra anbieten. Dann hätte man wieder einen GS ☺️ Die OEM sind einfach generell normiert 😣
@Wasmachineman
@Wasmachineman 11 жыл бұрын
LOL @ END! 'In case of an emergency, you can also ride on three wheels.'
@srfrg9707
@srfrg9707 5 жыл бұрын
That's no joke. i remember thad day in my dad's DS when one wheel blow out on the highway. We didn't realise it until another driver drove his car next to ours and tried to explain us that we where driving on 3 wheels by doing signs. My dad stopped on the sideroad and was amazed to see that one of the wheels was just totaly flat. Changing wheel was also painless and quick with the hydopneumatic system.
@MrManniG
@MrManniG 12 жыл бұрын
Ich weis, ich hab schon einen: aber das ist genial: Ich komm dann morgen zurück zum zahlen... OK, da bekommen sie dann auch ihr hinterrad wieder...
@clemensJB
@clemensJB 5 жыл бұрын
Eigentlich bin ich überzeugter Opelfahrer aber das ist wirklich nicht schlecht. Könnte man so was nicht in einen Opel einbauen?
@aaaabababa
@aaaabababa 5 жыл бұрын
Können schon, nur kann man sich dann grad einen Citroen Kaufen, kommt Billiger und wäre auch besser im gesamtpaket.
@macdieter23558
@macdieter23558 Жыл бұрын
So was gibt´s nur in wirklich guten Autos!
@nw8000
@nw8000 12 жыл бұрын
SO is that a DS?
@gozinatorrorlandozimbana2716
@gozinatorrorlandozimbana2716 5 жыл бұрын
No it's a GS
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 3 жыл бұрын
The DS (launch in 1955) is much older as the GS (1970)
@wane.v577
@wane.v577 3 жыл бұрын
تحياتي من الجزائر ،ابحث عن انثى للحب والصداقة ،
@lakkal5778
@lakkal5778 3 жыл бұрын
Τα καλύτερα αυτοκίνητα στον κόσμο!!DS GSA CX XM XANTIA C5 C6
@winterpower
@winterpower 3 жыл бұрын
♥️
@civertron9784
@civertron9784 3 жыл бұрын
I ended with my eyes burned.
@LUIZINHO16V
@LUIZINHO16V 5 жыл бұрын
Citroen German ??
@sjb2471
@sjb2471 3 жыл бұрын
No, French. The film is in German though
@TheLuckymoon
@TheLuckymoon 11 жыл бұрын
Sehr bequem
@lucasmancini2
@lucasmancini2 3 жыл бұрын
Wiso trifft man solche systeme heute nicht mehr an?
@K0nst4nt1n96
@K0nst4nt1n96 3 жыл бұрын
Ähnliche Systeme wie ABC oder Magic Ride bei Mercedes oder die Hydropneumatik bei Rolls Royce von Citroen gibt es doch noch. Ist halt ziemlich teuer und wenn der Druckgenerator kaputt geht hast du ein Problem.
@citroendrivervorever1148
@citroendrivervorever1148 3 жыл бұрын
@@K0nst4nt1n96 mag sein , daß die Luftfedersysteme ähnlich funktionieren, aber das typische wiegende Fahrgefühl, wie es der GSA , der CX und die DS rüberbrachten , ist dort ehr nicht vorhanden , sondern diese Autos fahren sich ehr deutsch straffer . Bin selbst auch schon mit großen Audis und Mercedessen gefahren . Auf jeden Fall besser , als das was man heute sonst so bekommt, aber eben nicht dieses völlig entkoppelte Schwebegefühl , wie ich es aus unserem GSA und CX kenne , welche bei uns ein noch hoffentlich langes Leben führen.
@jean-yveslg719
@jean-yveslg719 3 жыл бұрын
@@citroendrivervorever1148 Das neue system in die DS7 mit Kamera "ACTIV SCAN" ist leider nicht so gut . Vielleicht lohnt es sich zu probieren.
@karinstorer7095
@karinstorer7095 5 жыл бұрын
Hydrpneumatic basic Feserung up and down at a feather elastic can level streetcompfort out.K
@karinstorer7095
@karinstorer7095 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry Federung K
@nicdig6686
@nicdig6686 3 жыл бұрын
Geniale ,peccato che oggi siano catenacci
@krishnavideosgalerry
@krishnavideosgalerry 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha sippp 👍👍👍
@MG-qi6zq
@MG-qi6zq 5 жыл бұрын
Quand c'est les allemands qui parlent de la GS, bizarrement on l'a trouve intéressante 😂
@claudedjawoye6345
@claudedjawoye6345 5 жыл бұрын
?
@leneanderthalien
@leneanderthalien 3 жыл бұрын
la GS était une excellente auto, hélas avec une médiocre finition, car pour compenser le surcoût de la suspension, ils ont gratté un peu partout pour rester compétitifs par rapport aux autres constructeurs...
@MRoh79
@MRoh79 4 жыл бұрын
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@konradm.4724
@konradm.4724 10 жыл бұрын
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@davideroccolaviola 4 жыл бұрын
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