WAS JESUS LITERALLY RESURRECTED!? Sam Harris vs Jordan Peterson

[@Pangburn]

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[@cgjgujkui]

Jordan keeps his beliefs ambiguous because his business model relies on it

[@ROVA00]

Exactly. The rambling is simply a way to avoid the hard questions. He won’t sell many more books if he admits he doesn’t know or can’t explain it.

[@chupapi-o5u]

Yea he's an obvious grifter when richard dawkins asked him for the 10th time if jesus resurrected from the dead, jordan just went silent for 10 seconds. He's not even hiding it

[@miquelr2353]

Im not a fan but thats a dumb claim. You can clearly see that money is not his priority

[@timbuthfer901]

So true

[@Walker_8_8]

@@miquelr2353 no, his priority is ego, money is just the icing on the cake.

[@Satanic-Zen]

“If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.” ― Albert Einstein

[@nickj8906]

problem solved!👍

[@Bearzo23]

Agreed

[@chrisgraham2904]

LOL Now explain it to the six year old without lying to them.

[@Satanic-Zen]

@@chrisgraham2904 Try to find a six year old that's going to listen to someone for "40 hours" 🤣🤣🤣

[@toma3447]

Disagree. Big difference in life span.

[@TRUECRIMEADDICTTT]

Even after 40 hours, Peterson would still be sitting there, not knowing anything.

[@Bearzo23]

Nor making sense

[@iirostark]

Ah yes, 40 hours of talking in circles and not arriving to any actual conclusions is just what we need😂

[@wushu297]

Fire is a predator!

[@C0urne]

Jon Snowing away...

[@colinjava8447]

I can do it in 1 second........ "No", that's 144,000 times quicker than JP.

[@Erlaxis]

Jordan acting like the unsolved dogmas of primitive humans are unsolved because they are so deep and mysterious. 🤣

[@capatheist]

That makes absolutely no sense… How do you “solve a dogma” That’s not even how words work…

[@murakawa-san2279]

“He’s such a bitch!” -Bart Simpson

[@Meekman94]

@@capatheistmakes sense to me and 53 other people. Doctrine is another word for dogma. One could say that Christian doctrines are unsolved. Or one could not.

[@Dionysus3883]

That’s Jordan’s biggest issue, I think. He’s so bound up in his ego that he can’t help but inject deep and abiding mYsTeRy into everything. He can’t get over the splendor of man long enough at answer questions that are otherwise simple.

[@miquelr2353]

​@@capatheistchristian tradition is taught as dogma, but jp says they still argue what they are already teaching as truth. No one is actually arguing is jesus really resurrected or not, 99.9 percent of christians believe he did

[@suqmadiq68]

If anyone can toss a 40 hour word salad, it's JP.

[@upsidedownnugget9531]

He tosses his own salad

[@blue24563]

Charging people an hourly rate to hear it 😂

[@Y2JLionHeart]

Pause.

[@bobbiedodds2289]

The moderator forcing the conversation from the resurrection to masturbation was disappointing

[@brnfrmjts05]

Yeah, Bret Weinstein might be a bigger dumbass than Peterson. 😂

[@janem5900]

The moderator failed in that regard

[@thechunkyone7118]

It's the same thing a load a load of chuff

[@VincenzoSZ]

Perhaps, but otherwise they would of gone nowhere. It helped progress the conversation to amicability and it lead to some interesting debate on the potential benefits of dogma.

[@tek2490]

@@VincenzoSZI don’t think it does at all. It’s a clutching of straws at best. It’s a diluted version of the ‘morality taught through dogma is still morality’ but with a comical taboo attached. The preceding discussion was FAR more interesting and more personalised to the participants

[@alexquintana1031]

Jordans ramblings fueled by Xanax hangovers😂

[@thomasprislacjr.4063]

Jordan just lied about the efficacy of sex education in this video.....nobody called him out on it.

[@mariusciobotaru3]

He can't answer because he understands his religious beliefs are neither rational nor empirically backed in any way.

[@christianround2774]

Actually he can’t answer because the Daily Wire won’t let him say no

[@slang1517]

Peterson doesn’t believe any of it. He knows his audience does

[@Marc_Remillard]

Neither is atheism ! What empirical facts do you have that A God, any one of them, doesn't exist ? From an agnostic. ( I do know you cannot prove a negative......but to deny existance on the BELIEF Gods don't exist is not rational either.) You BELIEVE Gods don't exist.... Yet You dismiss BELIEF ? WTF ? ( Rationalise that !) You just have to PROVE GODS DONT EXIST for it to be a rational viewpoint !🤔 OR you are just another "believer" in something you cannot PROVE. Just like ever other PERSON OF FAITH !

[@Marc_Remillard]

Neither is your atheism . What empirical facts do you have that Gods don't exist ? Or is it just a "belief" of yours ? Thus Making atheism a RELIGION. ( based on a belief, not empirical facts) from an Agnostic.

[@slang1517]

@@Marc_Remillard You don't need evidence to not believe something. Lack of belief is the default position when there is no evidence for or against a things existence. Most atheist just lack belief in gods, and do not claim to know that gods don't exist. However, depending on the god, we can provide evidence that it doesn't exist. If a god has self contradictory traits, and defies logic, then it's reasonable to conclude it doesn't exist.

[@gohumberto]

Me - "Please could you get to the point Mister Peterson?" JP - "Well that depends entirely on what you mean by GET .. and what you mean by POINT .. and what you mean by COULD"

[@dizont]

and dont forget "Mister"

[@huepix]

Dead people do not reanimate. That's what dead means. Dead is dead

[@First-b1u8j]

Well yes but that is what makes the resurrection a miracle. And it happened so that the payment for sins would be fulfilled so we do not have to pay for it eternally. Jesus died so we could live because He first loved us. So now we repent and believe in what He has done for us. We are all sinners and deserve hell but because God loves us He died on the cross so that we can be saved.

[@lazloholt262]

@First-b1u8j this makes no sense at all. Why do I need to repent if Jesus already died for my sins? What use is hell if my sins are already paid for? Even on its most basic level, this is nonsense. How could the death of Jesus pay for sins in the first place? That's like saying that if you go punch someone, I can be punished for it and you are absolved of your crime. Was there a Jesus? Probably. Was he killed by the Roman empire? Yeah, probably. Was he a divine being that died for the wickedness of others and miraculously resurrected. Lol no. You have a long way to go before you can untangle this knot

[@sparkster1314]

Died for our sins, makes about as much sense as punched myself in the balls to pay off your mortgage.

[@seekerhonest]

If Mr. Peterson is not capable of understanding the bible text in a way to answer that question clearly, how can others be asked to follow Jesus as god? There are other concepts aslo waiting the row, like deism, pandeism, atheism, other theistic concepts, etc.

[@thisutuber]

People are tasked with approaching the living Jesus personally to find out for themselves.

[@seekerhonest]

@@thisutuber "the living Jesus" is a claim. Not even Dr. Peterson can give a real answer to the question if god (YH WH / JEsus ) only exist as long as human consciousness exist, meaning if god is a product of human consciousness or not. If YH WH is a human invention and Jesus was only a human preacher , then how should humans approach to them? Thats actually why I became a Deist.

[@pchasco]

Jordan annoys me so much because he just cannot give a straight answer to any question. He wants you to believe that because he is such a deep thinker he just has to be this obtuse. It’s a shtick. It’s acting. He is acting out what he thinks intelligent people sound like.

[@redmed10]

It would take me 40 hours to dodge that question.

[@moonshoes11]

It’s a yes or no question. Four seconds would be too long.

[@musicauthority674]

When it' comes to owning in this conversation. Sam Harris definitely owned Jordan Peterson.

[@Nebz123]

Surface level thinking

[@alloy2005]

Jordan does not even remember what he wrote.

[@Wuppie62]

SH: "How is this for an answer: 'It's almost certainly not'?" JP: "I need 80 hours to answer that question".

[@thisutuber]

it's the 'almost' part that makes it eternally inconclusive ...

[@Wuppie62]

@@thisutuber But nothing is ever 100% absolutely eternally conclusive. Therefor an honest scientist says things like 'very plausible' or 'almost certain(ly not)'. Hence, Peterson could also say this, instead of answering a question by meandering eternally with wordsalad.

[@soumyajitmazumdar4749]

Audience clapping at Sam's point hurt that poor li'l kid😂

[@forestsunset9617]

Kermit was crushed

[@jcoops02]

“Almost certainly not” - mic drop.

[@saldiven2009]

Peterson has a well established habit of reverting to complete word salad when he cannot or does not want to answer a question.

[@dizont]

Just like every sharlatan ever. Another great example is sadguru

[@MrDOB1000]

Even though if you actually listen to the debate, he makes points that Harris can't answer. Harris' "even if...", is just quite basic, non thought-provoking argumentation. It's easy to disagree with something and not try to solve an issue.

[@unclescar5616]

Around 40% of adults in the US were smokers in the 1940s and 50s. Today only 11% smoke. We didn't do that with mythical stories and heuristics. It's was scientific facts and rational discussions about the health effects of smoking.

[@wpmk]

Jordan Peterson never fails to use 500 words where 10 would suffice.

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

It's a technique he uses to muddy the water and not answer the question. It's a form of dishonesty.

[@jeffwoodcock6702]

I wonder how much time is needed for Jordan Peterson to decide on what to order when dining at a restaurant.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Depends what you mean by order….

[@martinsg2202]

As if life altering with possibly eternal consequences decisions or beliefs are an easy, quick thing to decide about. All the imediatists who grew up on instant media and content thinking that life works the same way.

[@thomasdives6705]

He only eats steak. Maybe he is on that diet to save time when ordering.

[@jeffwoodcock6702]

@@thomasdives6705 What is meant by 'steak' ?

[@thomasdives6705]

@@jeffwoodcock6702 New York strip steaks. He is on the carnivore diet

[@bhporwxhe]

I imagine what Hitchens would have said if he was on that stage.

[@888jucu]

When JP says he needs 40hours to answer something I really do believe him ☝️😆😆

[@SuperEdge67]

It’s a yes or no question Jordan!

[@MaximoToro]

Well... That depends on what you mean by "yes" and "no" and "question", doesn't it?...

[@SeldonnHari]

Jordan is patronizing, he doesn't believe it but thinks you should and doesn't want to outright lie to get you to believe.

[@NuclearT3acup]

It would take him 40 hours of word salad to answer that simply because he doesn't want to risk alienating most of his religious supporters.

[@barbararadzeviciusbondi4150]

Did mohammad fly off into the sky?

[@ÍtaloResiå]

He did it just as much as Jesus ressurected

[@johnz8843]

It's complicated. I just don't bloody know.

[@blue24563]

That would take him 200 hours to answer. 😂

[@chupapi-o5u]

​@@ÍtaloResiå he didn't. Just as much as jesus didn't resurrect

[@ÍtaloResiå]

@@chupapi-o5u D a m n baby boy, u on fire ay?

[@itsGdublan]

I’ll never get over the fact that their conversation was really at the most crucial point where the fundamental conflict of perspectives was finally reached, and then Bret cut it off to talk about masturbation with his insecure nerdy voice

[@ralphtoivonen2071]

It would take JP 40 hours not to answer that.

[@disissartaj]

what a person identifies with/as, their intellect, no matter how sharp, will always work to protect that identity, no matter how right or wrong it maybe.

[@trinsit]

It depends on how tightly you hold your identity. The stronger and more rigid you hold it, then yes. Then it takes humble humility to let it go. Once it's loose, then changing your mind becomes way easier.

[@Dennismusiclover]

It's a yes or no question. It's not complcated.

[@maryc9919]

When someone prefaces an answer with the impossibly of any adequate response, they are not honest arbitrators of discourse. Why does Peterson bother debating when he's so convinced at his own inability to explain himself?

[@24acresofparadise]

Is that 40 hours or 40 days and 40 nights?

[@oddball639]

he was clear as he can possibly be and it was not clear. i wander if his intellectial is slipping away even farther.

[@jbanders2358]

Every follower of Peterson is confused.

[@Dalisu87]

The moderator wants to take masturbation seriously as a topic but not that seriously

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

Did I take a dump this morning? Well, it whould take me 40 hours to answer this question.

[@cipollino4754]

What do you mean by 'dump'? What do you mean by 'this morning'? What do you mean by 'I'?

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

@cipollino4754 , before that we have to talk about the fecal substrate of my dump and the transcendental layer of smell that covers the reality of my toilet. Shall we go full noseoscientific on that, shall we?

[@alexanderewing3779]

Thanks to his all-meat diet, it probably does take him 40 hrs to take a dump? Like all the undigested meat in his colon, his word-salads are rotting his brain. I honestly can't remember hearing him make any sense whatsoever. He's not interested in sharing knowledge but rather, wanting to appear intellectual. Peterson's scepticism re the influence of the Enlightenment doesn't deter him from claiming that before we had the bible, we had no real moral or ethical framework. Surely his supernatural claims about the stories in the bible deserve more derision than even he, displays here! Christian fundamentalism, dressed up as free thinking.

[@chriswimer6296]

Jordan - I’m no foe to the enlightenment… You sure?

[@odinson6348]

"Hey Jordan, pizza or tacos?" - 7 hours later. "That's an interesting history lesson but can you just answer the question?"

[@kdee8166]

Peterson says he’s not evading the question !!

[@sherlockholmes6990]

Right? That's all he ever does. He rambles on and on without ever reaching a point to be made.

[@dermboss402]

If it would take you 40 hours to explain something , then you cant explain that thing

[@asandiegoguy]

Since Jordan can never seem to explain anything, unless he has an extraordinary amount of time, I’ve just decided to ignore him, I don’t have time for someone like him.

[@wagsman9999]

I've read a few of Harris's books. He's a very clear thinker.

[@drstevej2527]

JP is considered a laughing stock in his own field let alone in a field entirely outside of his field of expertise. JP is actually arguing that because we have been debating a nonsensical idea that it has greater validity.

[@jamescampbell2521]

How many rapes have been prevented because the potential rapist found release through masturbation. 🤔🤷🏽‍♂️

[@chrisgraham2904]

The same can be said of the opposite side of the coin. How many rapes have been encouraged by masturbation to pornography, which often dehumanizes women and promotes aggressive sexual behaviors?

[@onioni111111]

​@@chrisgraham2904Agree. There should be fines and prison time for masturbations.

[@ÍtaloResiå]

​@@chrisgraham2904zero

[@Stierenkloot]

And how many rapists were never born because of masturbation!

[@definitivamenteno-malo7919]

​@@chrisgraham2904You don't need porn to masturbate, so...

[@gerardgauthier4876]

Could you imagine Petereson reading the Lord of the Rings and doing a book report on it. Here's the first volume in 30, this one deals with the title Lord of the Rings and what Lord means in the context of rings.

[@GuildOfTheBlackCrow]

Ahhh...Pangburn following the algorythm from Dawkins and Peterson's meeting with Alex.

[@FreeSpirited01]

love sam for roasting this right winger!

[@tomrock7019]

What are you even taking about man? They both respect each other like mature adults and don't get political like an immature person would.

[@TraumaticQue9]

Don’t admonish the audience.

[@24acresofparadise]

Jordan is making an argument on why God should exist (i.e. for moral behavior) rather than making the argument for evidence of whether God actually exists. The idea of God shouldn't be popped into existence just to support moral behavior.

[@1Skeptik1]

I like Jordan, but he confuses Christian history with legend and myth. Most Christians believe their Jesus will return bodily within their lifetime to bring justice and peace to our world. (80 generations passed believing the same.) The Bible mentions bearing false witness. That is not to say I fail to grasp the utility of religion.

[@gottliebdee263]

I dislike Jordan. The rest of my post is the same as the rest of yours.

[@moonshoes11]

Peterson is a charlatan. Jesus said he’d return within the lifetime of those people that were with him at the time. He didn’t.

[@tomgreene1843]

I am a Christian and don't hold that belief.

[@gottliebdee263]

@@tomgreene1843 You fall outside of the, “most Christians “, then.

[@tomgreene1843]

@@gottliebdee263 Who told you ''most'' ?

[@JDPERALTA-t7r]

JP COULD SAY USE THE OXFORD DICTIONARY IN SINGLE ANSWER AND STILL HAVE NO MEANING

[@ulfingvar1]

I love it when people effortlessly move from Jesus' resurrection to masturbation It's that level of levity which inspires hope.

[@John_Demarco]

"I don't have a clear-cut answer to that question." Then say, "I don't know" and let people who DO have answers talk. To spend 40 hours talking about something you don't understand is worthless to all of us.

[@leonhughes134]

Grappling with smoke. Thats what’s it’s like dealing with Peterson on religion.

[@Angelic_Advocate]

I’ve become convinced JP only confounds that which he knows answering truthfully would lead to his massive followers to stop supporting him.

[@joeblack8915]

40 hours? Why?? It takes about 2 seconds to say 'all religion is bullshit' - and that's more truthful than the monotonous verbosity that Peterson indulges in.

[@rogeriopenna9014]

I can answer that very easily. I just need you to define what you mean with Jesus, what you mean with literally and what you mean with resurrected. And if course, what you mean with WAS.

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

Can I ask you what you mean with the terms "easy" and "answer"? I need to know what the metaphysical substrate of that is.

[@rogeriopenna9014]

@@weizenobstmusli8232 the reality is merely an a priori adjunct of non-naturalistic ethics via the categorical imperative I hold that ontologically it exists only in the imagination!!! if you don´t know where the above comes from, be prepared for a laugh kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2PKe5SjnNqBZpY ps: notice Marx is a right winger!! No wonder Germany lost!

[@dizont]

@@weizenobstmusli8232 what do you mean with "mean" ?

[@weizenobstmusli8232]

@dizont , what do you mean with "with"? 😆

[@rogeriopenna9014]

@@weizenobstmusli8232 what do you mean with @

[@mikeheffernan]

Jordan is a professional waffler who loves the limelight.

[@coryglasgow]

You can be as confused or unsure about science but it doesn't mean you aren't sincere in your scientific convictions. There is no better proof of honesty then repeated attacks on the person.

[@kentl7228]

Some simple questions don't need to be complicated. It's like a five year doctorate degree study in wheelbarrow maintenance.

[@sanjayshah7776]

What about Buddhist and other amazing Eastern Enlightenment ? There is Enlightenment in Jainism and they don't readily believe in God. You can be Athiest and have Enlightenment, your values and way of life can be of a high order.you don't require religion for that.

[@First-b1u8j]

People can have spiritual experiences without being christian but it can be counterfeit demonic influences. The bible says that since we are all broken and do wrong, we are succeptable to deceptiom because of our sin. But Jesus doed on the cross to save us so that we can be free from it forever. So if you believe in Him and what He did without trusting in your own deeds, you shall be saved.

[@DhSK.22]

​@First-b1u8j Why can't we say Jesus is demonic? As we have evidence to say that; he is demonic.

[@definitivamenteno-malo7919]

​@@First-b1u8jThe bible says the bible says the Bible says the bible says... The bible also says that the Earth is flat, stop the nonsense!!!!

[@miguelbranquinho7235]

Enlightnment comes only from knowledge, and knowledge is only true if it adheres to the scientific method.

[@wpmk]

Who's the moderator?

[@1ron0xide]

"Now, that depends on what you mean by ASK. And what you mean by IF. Of course, if the next topic, JESUS, seems easy to you, you are mistaken. Which brings us to WAS. A topic that, despite its complexities beyond comprehension, is blindingly simple compared to the word RESURRECTED"

[@trinsit]

Jordan spits out a word salad to avoid professing that a person coming back from the dead is actually dumb, as it's never happened. He only believes in such a way as to keep the lying going to make himself feel good about his choices.

[@Wolf.88]

F unbelievable. The more believers explain the less they make sense.

[@dizont]

Agreed, a believer does not, should not have to explain anything - a believer, ultimately, believes. But I am worried that more and more of these debates are getting popular. Believers are attacking

[@mariusciobotaru3]

He could talk for 40 hours and would still not answer the question 😂

[@thechangingtimes]

We are a quarter of the way through the 21st-century. We have artificial intelligence, staring at us the way that a python stares at a mouse…. And THIS…. THIS is a serious debate question. It’s at times like this that I think that the human race probably won’t survive too much longer.

[@oberyquarles1586]

I thought so maybe one day on earth we will all eventually would agree morals are just something no one will understand

[@TREVORALLEN-tl4yt]

I think the problem is immersed in the metaphysical substrate.

[@onsenguy835]

another significant contributor would be the paternalistic paradigm based on our psychological proclivities.

[@Calixxtus]

… and something something Dostojevski.

[@TREVORALLEN-tl4yt]

Years ago there was a three column list of about thirty compatible buzz words used in order to confuse the listener.Their intellectual impact was beyond reproach. An example being, an optimistic transitional time phase. digital reciprocal mobility,and many others, all intended to be included in passive conversation.

[@bullhaddha]

I don't

[@felixgotrek1]

totally evading the question

[@colinjava8447]

Sam is spot on, he should own it, he dances round trying to avoid the question or his belief on something to the point of absurdity.

[@dushyantchaudhry4654]

Mostt people who spread these religious falsehoods don't realise how much of a disservice they are trying to do to humanity.

[@elkhuntr2816]

Proof Peterson is not a Christian and doesn't literally believe in the resurrection. Not sure why some Christians don't get that. He is very misleading.

[@definitivamenteno-malo7919]

Because Christians are literally indoctrinated to fall to conmen.

[@martinsg2202]

I don't think that's the case. My thought is, JP has come to approach Christianity very recently and people often have the misconception that conversion happens in an instant when it actually takes time. It takes time to have all your fundamental questions answered satisfactorily so your intellect is convinced of the faith you now profess. Often christians start with profound intuitions, but as any rational person knows nowadays, intuitions are not proof. So we start seeking formal evidence to back out intuition. We cannot claim those intuitions as proof. I believe he is in this stage, and it takes time until he is formally convinced of the claims of Christianity.

[@definitivamenteno-malo7919]

@martinsg2202 That's exactly how cults recruit people

[@elkhuntr2816]

@@martinsg2202 He denies the literal resurrection of Jesus Christ. He referres to it only metaphorically, and he describes it as the "intersection of history and mythology". I think his viewpoints are actually more dangerous to leading people away from Christ that atheists such as Sam Harris. He gives them permission to reject the gospel as mythology, while pulling out principles that seem to be "good". This is what all false religions do.

[@martinsg2202]

@@definitivamenteno-malo7919 can cults prove those intuitions with formal real evidence? That's where I think (so far) Christianity differs. It provides historical evidence that Christ raised from the dead, apart from the metaphysical arguments that require the Christian God to be real.

[@Nanology101]

Mark 16 9-20, 11 verses added generations later............

[@slangster233]

Stapling genitals onto the Creator, Sustainor and Destroyer of every molecule and microsecond of time in the Universe, was our first mistake.

[@Mrmorlam1]

Jesus Christ is not a person.

[@tomgreene1843]

There is a clear cut reply ...in Christian belief it is held that Christ rose from the dead and the resurrection had bodily manifestation. JP may /may not subscribe to that.

[@psychlos21]

This is one of many reasons I do not follow any religion. The goal post gets moved when specific questions are asked and the answers are all over the place. One basically gets convoluted, jumbled answers that are even more confusing and contradictory. The word salad master: Jordan Peterson.

[@anthonykenny1320]

Why did the moderator insist on ending on masturbation just as the debate was getting interesting

[@chuecco]

10:00 this is it, ive found it. This is the reason why peterson doesn't let go of religion. He thinks (and knows from all the studies in iq) that most people are too stupid to follow what's right from wrong. He thinks we need the big daddy in the sky dictating what to do. He clearly doenst believe in religion that's why he goes in these senseless ramblings everytime he's asked. And since he's sooo smart he made it his job to indoctrinate the poor dumb creatures. Note that this not only applies to sex ed but many other aspects of human life.

[@blue24563]

IQ has nothing to do with morality. People with very low IQs live perfectly moral lives, as do animals with even lower IQ and evolutionary complexity than humans - they protect their young, they socialise, they have emotional intelligence.

[@dizont]

we, the sheep, need the shepherd

[@jdghgh]

Peterson reveals all with his reaction to the crowd. Ultimately he is very thin skinned and that has driven his attitude in recent years.

[@ÍtaloResiå]

Christians must be going crazy with Jordan Peterson right now🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thomasprislacjr.4063]

"Sure..." -John "Bunny" Breckinridge

[@sevenpaulperalta929]

Almost certainly not; that Jesus even existed, let alone died and came back to life!

[@louiskriel7025]

Sad what religion can do to believers brains.

[@EndlessSummer-dh]

Treat everyone with kindness, light some incense and hum a little song. How's that for a religion for all? No need for a priori, implicit, interpretive structures to guide our interactions with the facts. Or pretending that a man died and then came back to life for some reason, or at all.

[@sparkster1314]

Imagine being behind this guy in the line to order food. 😳

[@AAA9549-w7w]

29/10/2024 Three academics are engaged in a discussion about a person who could or not be resurrected but they do not know his true name or what God is. They ponder how resurrection might occur, even though they seem to be exploring a misguided path in their inquiry. Secondly, what does masturbation have to do with God?! © Art & Metaphysician

[@oberyquarles1586]

The question still is where do morals come from?

[@BB-rh2ml]

Morals are 100% subjective and come from multiple places such as your upbringing, the part of the world you were born in, the era you were born in, your personal feelings. There is no singular source for morals.

[@lazloholt262]

@oberyquarles1586 the origin of morals isn't really that difficult. The problem is that even if we couldn't answer it, people are not justified in plugging in their supernatural answers just because they can't be satisfied by no answer

[@oberyquarles1586]

@ thanks I didn’t think it was that difficult

[@lazloholt262]

@oberyquarles1586 I wasn't trying to condescend. I'm just saying that the question "where do morals come from?" is typically asked by theists in response to an atheists lack of belief in a god and I'm trying to point out that while the question is a good one, someone cannot appeal to the supernatural as an answer without first demonstrating that the supernatural is even possible

[@oberyquarles1586]

@ ok cool nice to know

[@jus1085]

Whats wrong with that answer? You lose those people that you grift and that implies losing $

[@clacclackerson3678]

He speaks so beautifully and says nothing.

[@ZigzagZilla]

Jordan does not know anything , and him admitting that he would lose alot of money

[@JudyJean-j2]

I like Peterson, but it seems to me that he contributes a whole lot to discussion but with the goal of not committing to any view against another.

[@alfymo]

What ends up happening in just about every debate with an atheist is they just make some slick remark about how religion is bad and they get applause from people that don’t like religion. The problem is how religion is talked about. All Sam does after that is start claiming things like reason and rationality are on his side and people will agree. In another debate between them Jordan kept pressing Sam on how we decide what is reasonable and rational and Sam could not give a solid answer. At that point you are basically just doing exactly what atheists criticize religious people about, you’re just believing your opinions about what is right and wrong are better than someone else’s. God or no god doesn’t change the fact that atheists need faith to push their opinions on what is right, wrong, reasonable, etc.

[@fibonacimike4110]

Any evidence a god exists?

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

​@@fibonacimike4110I'll second that. Any good evidence that any god exists?

[@burningmisery]

I've watched more than 40 episodes if AXP with Matt, he definitely "proved"there is no god 😊

[@WhoThisMonkey]

No There, answered it with two letters.

[@vivianoosthuizen8990]

If this isn’t true then what else isn’t

[@WallySoto-yi8fz]

No! & there is absolutely no evidence of that whatsoever. However, if that story is reinforced via believing it, then, it becomes real to whoever reinforced that story. This is how everything works! The truth is very but very painful & is the only pain that the body should interact with. Not, suffering!