Was Jinnah A British Agent or Sole Spokesman of Muslims? Partition 1947

Was Jinnah A British Agent or Sole Spokesman of Muslims? Partition 1947 | Dr. Ayesha Jalal Interview

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@WaqarDKI Ай бұрын

Question is that without British support, Jinnah was able to get Pakistan?

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

Pakistan was created by the British. Do you think a salaried professor would accept that Jinnah was a British agent and jeopardize their job? You should consult someone who is a true intellectual with a deep understanding of world politics. You invite such individuals on purpose and ask questions that align with your perspective on declaring Jinnah (and Gandhi) as heroes. Only those who are uninformed or have never conducted thorough research would believe such professors. Scholar Nasim Yousaf has done an exceptional job exposing Jinnah and Gandhi's dirty politics, compelling you to bring in someone to argue against the idea that Jinnah was an agent. Read Mr. Yousaf's full-page article titled "Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" and watch his documentary on Allama Mashriqi to better understand your history. The days when you could deceive people are over. Here are the links Article: facebook.com/KhaksarAssemblyBritishRuleCollapse Watch the documentary: "The Road to Freedom: Allama Mashriqi's Historic Journey from Amritsar to Lahore" kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4GyamyqpMuFa9U

@manivannanchokkalingam8251 Ай бұрын

jinna's long lost daughter, settled in america 🇺🇸

@kiranpeter5630 Ай бұрын

Yes very valid point.

@yasmeenawan-en1yg Ай бұрын

He disowned her

@kiranpeter5630 Ай бұрын

@@yasmeenawan-en1yg how can you disown a child. Was she so bad?

@user-oh8zq4gn2o Ай бұрын

@@kiranpeter5630 No he was a shitty father

@1008apocalypse1008 Ай бұрын

@@manivannanchokkalingam8251 No she settled in India. Jinnah's grandkids are based in India.

@adilzareef3823 Ай бұрын

Yes, both... 💯 Jinnah played the Islam card & the British used him to their benefit .. He got a moth eaten Pakistan 🇵🇰 as the Brits kept the better part of the bargain However, Jinnah's conduct post independence as G G brought to sharp relief his deeply autocratic mindset. The uncalled for dismissal of khan sahib government in NWFP was the first unconstitutional & undemocratic act .. It set the ball rolling for subsequent autocratic & unrepresentative governments in Pakistan 🇵🇰 Moreover, an autocratic government suited the British perfectly After all, Pakistan was meant to serve the imperial Anglo-American agenda in the subcontinent History bears Pakistan role post independence in the region, similar to Israel, serving its masters well in the Middle East. Both are strange (estranged) twins midwifed by the imperial paymasters for the same purpose Wish Ayesha Jalal did not sweep history under the carpet to justify her thesis she obstinately defends..though many subsequent historians ( like Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed et al) have totally debunked her narrow narrative on the making of Pakistan She often forgets the nuances & abstract analysis of history ... which is a limitation in historiography....👇🏻❗

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

We commented on Raza Rumi video, "Was Jinnah A British Agent or Sole Spokesman of Muslims? Partition 1947 | Dr. Ayesha Jalal Interview": Do you think a salaried professor would accept that Jinnah was a British agent and jeopardize their job? You should consult someone who is a true intellectual with a deep understanding of world politics. You invite such individuals on purpose and ask questions that align with your perspective on declaring Jinnah (and Gandhi) as heroes. Only those who are uninformed or have never conducted thorough research would believe such professors. Scholar Nasim Yousaf has done an exceptional job exposing Jinnah and Gandhi's dirty politics, compelling you to bring in someone to argue against the idea that Jinnah was an agent. Mr. Yousaf wrote on his face book page, "Writing More Books Supporting Jinnah and Gandhi's Politics is a Waste of Time" Here is the link: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=536246205180961&set=pb.100063867588713.-2207520000&type=3 Read Mr. Yousaf's full-page article titled "Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" and watch his documentary on Allama Mashriqi to better understand your history. The days when you could deceive people are over. Here are the links Article: facebook.com/KhaksarAssemblyBritishRuleCollapse Watch the documentary: "The Road to Freedom: Allama Mashriqi's Historic Journey from Amritsar to Lahore" kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4GyamyqpMuFa9U

@harminderkaur4994 Ай бұрын

Lady can u tell how many times jinnah opposed British and went to jail he was British in attire who changed his dress to Islamic later on like a actor, he never wrote any books to elaborate his thoughts on economy, history culture, he changed his ways like chameleon

@yasmeenawan-en1yg Ай бұрын

U r very much stupid as denying the utter truth of our history QUAID E AZAM was the rebirth of MUHAMMAD BIN QASIM who conquered united hindustan QUAID made a separate muslim state for the muslim How come he be a british

@yasmeenawan-en1yg Ай бұрын

He had no need to write a book His wisdom was beyond the limits He was not an ordinary human

@user-oh8zq4gn2o Ай бұрын

@@yasmeenawan-en1yg 🤣🤣🃏 Book was needed for other "ordinary humans" to follow.

@anilganjoo8401 Ай бұрын

Really. Height of absurdity. 😂😂😂😂😂😂@@yasmeenawan-en1yg

@MrFunkyClaude Ай бұрын

No Jinnah didn't write any books, but then he also never slept naked with women, especially his own niece, unlike Mr Gandhi ;-)

@159arjun Ай бұрын

Dr Ishtiaq rightly says she does not provide evidence or source of her arguments because historical incidences are always full of evidences but she stands clueless about evendence in support of her logic

@kiranpeter5630 Ай бұрын

Yes talks a lot.

@arifsaleem5467 Ай бұрын

She knows that smooth talk sells like hot cakes among masses.

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

Do you know Ishtiaq Ahmed and many more are reflecting on scholar Nasim Yousaf's works on Jinnah? Indias are reflecting on Mr. Yousaf's book on Gandhi. Goggle his name to find his articles: Do you think a salaried professor would accept that Jinnah was a British agent and jeopardize their job? You should consult someone who is a true intellectual with a deep understanding of world politics. You invite such individuals on purpose and ask questions that align with your perspective on declaring Jinnah (and Gandhi) as heroes. Only those who are uninformed or have never conducted thorough research would believe such professors. Scholar Nasim Yousaf has done an exceptional job exposing Jinnah and Gandhi's dirty politics, compelling you to bring in someone to argue against the idea that Jinnah was an agent. Read Mr. Yousaf's full-page article titled "Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" and watch his documentary on Allama Mashriqi to better understand your history. The days when you could deceive people are over. Here are the links Article: facebook.com/KhaksarAssemblyBritishRuleCollapse Watch the documentary: "The Road to Freedom: Allama Mashriqi's Historic Journey from Amritsar to Lahore" kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4GyamyqpMuFa9U

@rajithpalayil Ай бұрын

good that Pakistan happened and a lot of people moved away from India. Got it free without any major contribution to the independence struggle. Do they even have any freedom fighters ?

@yasmeenawan-en1yg Ай бұрын

But we snatched two lands nd broke the ukhand bharat

@user-oh8zq4gn2o Ай бұрын

@@yasmeenawan-en1yg No worries, you saved us from Afghan incursions and TTP...thanks Jinnah

@nikhilhembrom8952 Ай бұрын

@@yasmeenawan-en1ygno worries now ghajwace hind couldn't happen plus we doesn't need to share borders with fanatical states like iran and Afghanistan

@AKumar-co7oe 27 күн бұрын

@@yasmeenawan-en1yg congratulations. good luck trying to run the country with deceit as your core skill set

@rahulramola934 26 күн бұрын

@@yasmeenawan-en1ygyou snatched?😂😂😂 Why didn't you snatched Kashmir then even after being a independent country?

@bhavinsampat590 Ай бұрын

Illogical jalal. Jinnah asking partition for muslims is cute. But partition of punjab and bengal is bad. Jinnah abusing and demeaning hindus is great service, but others addressing Interest of Hindus is communal. How to argue with illogical bunch who don't care for realities.

@nyaligusar2264 Ай бұрын

Yahi haal indian muslim ka b hai. 😂

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

Do you think a salaried professor would accept that Jinnah was a British agent and jeopardize their job? You should consult someone who is a true intellectual with a deep understanding of world politics. You invite such individuals on purpose and ask questions that align with your perspective on declaring Jinnah (and Gandhi) as heroes. Only those who are uninformed or have never conducted thorough research would believe such professors. Scholar Nasim Yousaf has done an exceptional job exposing Jinnah and Gandhi's dirty politics, compelling you to bring in someone to argue against the idea that Jinnah was an agent. Read Mr. Yousaf's full-page article titled "Allama Mashriqi’s Order: 300,000 Khaksar Soldiers Reach Delhi and the Sudden Collapse of British Rule" and watch his documentary on Allama Mashriqi to better understand your history. The days when you could deceive people are over. Here are the links Article: facebook.com/KhaksarAssemblyBritishRuleCollapse Watch the documentary: "The Road to Freedom: Allama Mashriqi's Historic Journey from Amritsar to Lahore" kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4GyamyqpMuFa9U

@Mussadi_Lal 25 күн бұрын

She is frustrated. Dr. Ishtaq Ahamed dethroned her. She used to and love limelight on Jinnah and Pakistan topics. Now, Ishtaq Ahamed showed her fundamentalist face. She is trying hard to not name Ishtaq in interview. Frustration all over in body language.

@hassankhayyam2194 Ай бұрын

Raza Rumi seems to be an obedient student of Ayesha Jalal instead of history.

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

Both are not intellectuals; they present fabricated history:

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

@ghairhaqeeqattv9460 Ай бұрын

She quite fluently debunks the whole theory. She is all for Jinnah being a Sole's Spokesman and I love it.

@shantanughosh8229 Ай бұрын

what a contradiction , in one breath she says Jinnah is not one person who is responsible , yet the name of her book is THE SOLE SPOKEPERSON

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

@ajitpalsinghatwal7931 Ай бұрын

She is jinnah defender, whereas it was jinnah"s Communal politics that lead to Disaster in punjab and Bengal.Her thesis are UTTER GARBAGE

@rominpuri7825 Ай бұрын

The dichotomy in her arguments that while Jinnah was reacting to the circumstances prevalent, but the current government is not. She is clutching at straws to justify her lifelong treatise on Jinnah. Reminds me of Romila Thapar.

@safdarakbari Ай бұрын

It is a point of view so try and respect that instead of getting emotional

@AKumar-co7oe Ай бұрын

@@safdarakbari oh shove it, the current state of Pakistan is a direct result of the garbage being spewed in the name of history

@FarwahKhan650 28 күн бұрын

It was Nehru who wanted to divide bengal and punjab to be dominant in Lok Sabha

@ajitpalsinghatwal7931 27 күн бұрын

@@FarwahKhan650 jinnah insisted on dividing all of India except Punjab and Bengal where Muslims were in majority.How will Nehru can agree to that.jinnahs communal appeal made him leader whereas Nehru was a leader of all communities

@vardhamanpatil1539 Ай бұрын

Ayesha Jalal is highly overrated Historian. Her findings are baseless that's the reason why she doesn't dare to confront Dr Ishtiyaq.. Her blind faith towards Mohd Ali Jinnah has lead to distortion of History.

@nikhilhembrom8952 Ай бұрын

Don't fall for ishtiaq words just because he criticised jinnah and milarity he is good that guy is hidden Islamist

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

@AA-cy9ib Ай бұрын

@@nikhilhembrom8952 It's not about praising or criticising and It's not about whether Dr. Ishtiaq is Islamist or not. It's about facts. Dr. Ishtiaq cities everything with proof whereas Dr Ayesha doesn't

@AKumar-co7oe Ай бұрын

@@nikhilhembrom8952 at least he provides proof for his historical claims, jalal doesn't even have that

@AvinashPatil-1 Ай бұрын

It is fruitless to debate who caused the partition. We, in India have grown up with elders cursing Mr Jinnah for partitioning India. People of current generation, those who are in mid 40s or early 50s and even youngsters strongly believe Mr Jinnah was a great man with ultimate vision. People in Pakistan consider him saviour but we think he did greatest favour to Hindus than Muslims by dividing India. Had Mr Jinnah not been there, India would have been hell for Hindus with mobs lynching every other Hindu for fictitious blasphemy. 2 nation theory is the greatest piece of modern mankind history. Pakistan complied with it 100% but unfortunate part is we let him down by not mirroring our neighbour on this non compliance. So, we are eternally thankful to this great man called Mohammed Ali Jinnah.

@shantanughosh8229 Ай бұрын

what kind of interview is this Raza Rumi is basically swaliowing what ever garbage she is spewing , what about prof Ishtiak Ahmed , prof Venkat dhulipala , prof Hoodbhoy

@nikhilhembrom8952 Ай бұрын

What a hypocrisy first jinnah asked for pakistan but opposes division of punjab and bengal because for him punjabi is punjabi first and bengali is bengali first otherwise whole bengali punjabi hindus and sikhs were pershied

@Adi-ev1uh Ай бұрын

At Independence, India had intellectuals and Pakistan had paigambars

@Shrvp Ай бұрын

1. Dr. Jalal is completely clueless about the dynamics of electoral politics in India and as a result gives communal color Muslim non representation in parliament. Obviously Dr. Jalal doesn't know that since the first election in 1950 Muslims always voted en block to defeat BJP/ JanSangh. Till 2014 Muslims had a veto on who can rule. No political party could win any election without Muslim support. Modi in 2014 consolidated the divided Hindu votes and won without Muslims. Now to expect Modi to give a share in power to those who perpetually vote to defeat him is the height of ignorance for a historian. Dr. Jalal may be foremost in partition history but completely at sea in contemporary Indian politics.

@Shrvp Ай бұрын

Her other argument that the British had no geopolitical interest in division of India too needs scrutiny . Many historians and intellectuals now believe that the decision to partion India was post WW2 decision by British and American. Almost the entire Congress leadership was left leaning socialist deeply influenced by the USSR. China was already a communist. They feared that a huge country like India joining communist block. This would have a domino effect in Asia. They needed a pro west buffer state between india and Russia. Here the geopolitical interest of UK and USA coincided with Jinnah s ambitions. The naivety or ignorance of the congress leaders about the reality of geopolitics and how superpowers think and act to protect their national interest is a crucial factor along with the provincial politics Dr Jalal talks about.

@QabilAGhor Ай бұрын

I think you didn't listen to the interview carefully. You stated that Modi consolidated the Hindu vote and won without any Muslim votes. That goes to show the communal aspects of Indian politics, isn't it? And if things are like that now, imagine what it must have been like in Pre-Partition days. There was an attempt to sideline Muslims back then, which led to the creation of Pakistan, and that's how things are today. For India's largest party to totally isolate a very large minority cannot possibly be good. We've seen what that leads to in WWII Germany, Israel, and other places.

@AKumar-co7oe Ай бұрын

honestly, at this point i feel I'm smarter than jalal in my arguments. new wave can interview me for counterpoints lol

@supreetdeshpande9602 Ай бұрын

@@QabilAGhor, you don't have to imagine anything. More than half of muslim.population stayed back in India despite partition. This one fact is enough to say there was little anti muslim sentiment in India.

@QabilAGhor Ай бұрын

@@supreetdeshpande9602 That's because Muslims in India were divided. Those who wanted Pakistan, got it. Those who were content being Indians stayed in India.

@supreetdeshpande9602 Ай бұрын

The lady talks a lot but says very little.

@kanwalsethi9822 Ай бұрын

She is the one who have not understood even an iota of history but blaming whole world for not understanding history. Jinah was a British agent otherwise Pakistan was not created artificially.

@yasmeenawan-en1yg Ай бұрын

Hahaha😂😂😂😂 Ur ignorance is beyond the end

@salmanabid3188 Ай бұрын

Agreed, English wanted to divide India

@arifsaleem5467 Ай бұрын

@@yasmeenawan-en1yg You should or could have argued instead of pasting laughing emojis.

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

@donjames7647 Ай бұрын

Anyone who wants rights in India , if they are sikh or muslim they are British agents according to Hindus

@hrishiglobal4876 Ай бұрын

India did Islam preaching for 50 years, and provided the highest post in parliament cabinet but unfortunately most of Islamist ministers silently serve Islam than India. A very recent example is the former VP of India, Mr. Mohammad Hamid Ansari who failed to integrate with the secular soul of society. Pakistan is the only cause for the divide in Indian society who is still working on to give thousands cuts using hardcode Islamist minds in India also called slipper cells. Majority of peaceful Indian Muslim who have the following nation's first policy are progressing hand in hand with the rest of society which includes micro minorities like Parsi, Jain, etc. Indian society elects their representatives through voting so logically parliament is collective consciousness of society including Muslim population. So let's not cry for missing representation of Muslim brotherhood. Power was the central issue for Fight between Jinnah and Nehru. Jinnah once said that both brothers (himself and Nehru) will unite again once Power deal (partition) has been sorted out. That's the reason Jinnah and his descent legally fought in Indian courts to retain his Mumbai based luxurious house to be able to spend vacation in India. Nehru also advocated to give away house to Jinnah but society opposed and court case is going on till date. Unfortunately none of the sides filled criminal cases against Jinnah and Nehru for killing millions of people on both sides for their power struggle in form of partition. Many Indian corporates have Muslim CEOs based on their Education and Experience because it's an inclusive society. On other hand Pakistan has constitutionally blocked the entry of all non muslims in highest positions in society, and that should have been points of discussion as well.

@dwirajesh Ай бұрын

Well said

@dwirajesh Ай бұрын

Well said

@sumeetgupta3823 Ай бұрын

Justifying Jinnah is the sole purpose of thus interview This lady is so ignorant about india

@hasanmiraj6182 18 күн бұрын

I am Pakistani and so happy to be living in Pakistan not for economics but for the blessings of having a country. These talkers live outside Pakistan and don’t understand the feelings of local Pakistanis. Good English. Good degrees but no knowledge of the feelings of poor Pakistanis who still Iove Pakistan and Jinnah

@srinathmitta661 Ай бұрын

Jinnah, being the sole spokesman, is also the most important factor responsible for the mess that Pakistan is mired in. The project itself was flawed and the outcome an inevitable one!

@ghairhaqeeqattv9460 Ай бұрын

As a historian or a critic, it is the easiest job to term Pakistan as a "moth-eaten or truncated". Put yourself in Jinnah's shoes and just imagine what he achieved and that you are sitting in Jinnah's Pakistan, notwithstanding the fact that it was taken over by the establishment. It goes without saying, whenever a dream is translated into reality, it is not necessary that it materializes the same way one dreams about it.

@chaitanya9229 Ай бұрын

Well prof. Jalal, if muslim league can demand for partition of india on the basis of 2 nation theory than hindu mahasabha had every right to demand partition of punjab and bengal. Mahasabha's demand didnt came out of blue.

@bhavinsampat590 Ай бұрын

U r talking logic to pakistani historian, which is anti to each other

@MrIAMcool83 Ай бұрын

@@bhavinsampat590 - just by her elite articulate English she is trying to sell her narrative. Wont happen in today where the World is burning in Muslim Separatism across Europe now.

@yasmeenawan-en1yg Ай бұрын

Hindus r not as wise as Muslims

@chandan4156 Ай бұрын

A hundred years from now, Islam, Christianity and Hinduism, etc all die and we all can live together happily

@yasmeenawan-en1yg Ай бұрын

Good dreamer😂😂

@yasmeenawan-en1yg Ай бұрын

Islam will be the only religion

@SohailTaj-mz1wg Ай бұрын

islam is the way of life not religion, do not consider the Islam as the majority of Muslims in subcontinent practicing. just study the quraan and the life of Muhammad the last messenger of Allah.

@shubhammittal9003 Ай бұрын

She is a self acclaimed intellectual..

@bhavinsampat590 Ай бұрын

She is propogandtist in skin of historian

@hamzadafaqui Ай бұрын

Well said...The wannabe goras with the propaganda factories like harvard and oxfords...trying to portray themselves superior to fundamentalist hindus or fundamentalist muslims..these not so closeted islam and hinduism haters arebnothing but pimps and prostitutes of westernism. muslims and hindus have some unfinished business of kicking out goras and vestiges of colonialism of these black brown shudar british/Americans.

@mpc6912 Ай бұрын

She is a Muslim historian 😂😂

@FreddieMurphy746 Ай бұрын

She is married to West Bengal's TMC MP who is also professor at Jadavpur University...

@parjanyashukla176 Ай бұрын

@@FreddieMurphy746 Only room partner

@vpmishra3703 Ай бұрын

Aligarh ke laundon ne Pakistan bana kar diya tha Jinnah ko.aur khud yahin rah gaye the. Kanpur me British Agent Jinnah ne kaha tha 2crore Indian muslims ko pakistan ke liye qurban karna pade to wo bhi karenge...A jalal ko to maloom hona chahiye. Dr Ishtiyaq ko hi padh leti. islam ki laboratory banate banate jahan aa gaye hain wahiin rahen. Hume ab kisi pakistan ki koi chahat nahi.

@gulambharati_amaana Ай бұрын

Partition was necessary not due to hindu muslim issue, it was imposed by the british to keep the casteism alive and keep India divided, weak and remote control the Indian economy forever behind the facade of parliamentary democrazy.

@user-nq8yv3kh5d Ай бұрын

Raza sahib i think you are a former civil servant and then quit your job well i do not know the reasons but being a pashtun i adore gandhi . Nehru more to jinnah you are well read and lady you invited also well read but we lost in the name of islamic state we have no cultural identity. we are a failed state. our civil service which is the back bone of the state is crumbling please i just want to say people are killing for electricity bill was that the welfare islamic state jinnah did what he want? but look at the present piece of of your country those who are well-skilled. well-read. are leaving the country your best brains are leaving the if that was pakistan jinnah created on the blood bath of million of innocent people then we only pray for for god the foundations of this state is shaking on 14th of august we celebrate our 77th independence but do we have any any shame at what cost /price we called ourselves independent state thanks and regards

@at5112opsiarw Ай бұрын

You can keep giving it the colour you want but partition was one single event that turned the entire South Asia into a communal hotspot and it remains so to this day. I agree that the position of Muslim elite would have dropped a few notches in the independent India, but common Muslims wouldn't have suffered much. I also agree that there isn't just one factor that led to partition, so blaming it all on Jinnah isn't right. And I don't think Pakistan is doing that badly because it has become what it always wanted to. It wasn't created for it's people but to keep the nostalgia of Islamic warriors and rulers alive and Pakistani army today is just carrying on with what many Islamic invaders did in mediaeval India. I just feel sad for the people of subcontinent because all this hatred and bitterness perhaps could have been avoided.

@anildube7723 Ай бұрын

She is a prime example of why Pakistan was created,a false concept of Muslim superiority

@AshokGupta-oq6hs 3 күн бұрын

Sir & Madam there is a side of Mr Jinnah which nobody dare look at. In the public domain Mr Jinnah is either a hero or villain depending upon which side of the border one is at. Mr Jinnah was also ruthless notwithstanding his total commitment towards achieving Pakistan. No amount of loss of lives and bloodshed ever mattered to him.

@mpsbhati Ай бұрын

If Ayesha Jalal is the benchmark for best historians in Pakistan, then even Allah cannot save Pakistan. On these people ashamed that they bring this so called historian on a so called progressive channel

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

@sunala1265 Ай бұрын

*There are many reasons for sinking ship of Pakistan's economy.* Some of them are:- Enmity with India. Unaffordable wars with India. Unaffordable Arms race with India. Unnecessary importance to kashmir issue. Constantly sending, facilitating training, supporting terrorists against India for subversive activities in Indian territories.. Instigating separatist elements by funding them in Indian kashmir. Proxy wars with India by relentlessly sending terrorists. Inability of Pakistan to dismantle terrorists training camps on Pakistani soil against India, Iran and Afghanistan. President of USA's decision to stop US financial and military aid to Pakistan. Rising inflation, rising prices of Petroleum products. Devaluation/ depreciation of Pakistani currency. Pakistan rupees continue to fall against USD. 280-300 rupees per USD PM Narendra Modi’s successful diplomatic mission and foreign policy to alienate Pakistan at global level. Wrong/faulty monetory policy, increased interest rate up to 12-20% Pakistan IN/OUT in the Gray list of FATF. Permanent membership of IMF loan. Over and unnecessary financial dependance on US and China. Inability of fiscal development. Lack of industrial development and infrastructure. Lack of the construction of new dams, irrigation,etc. Lack of agrarian development. Inability to construct railway network and road network. Ever growing unemployment. Illiteracy and religious fundamentalism/madness. Uncertain future of democracy. Pakistani Army's interference in government policies. Frequent Army's coups to dethrone elected prime Ministers. Unfeasible and unaffordable project of CPEC i.e. China Pakistan Economic Corridors. China’s constant growing loan. There might be many more reasons of sinking Pakistan's economy and it's herculean task for Pakistan to come out of this financial crisis. It seems that the ship named Pakistan is going to sink into the unfathomable sea of loan of China.

@Ali1997SA Ай бұрын

intellectually honest analysis by Dr Ayesha

@AKumar-co7oe Ай бұрын

it's obvious how honest she is by refusing to debate ishtiaq Ahmed

@deepasmitlenka7682 Ай бұрын

This is honesty ??😂😂

@jamshedfbc Ай бұрын

Ms Ayesha Jalal conveniently ignores hundreds of Jinnah's speeches since March 1940-47 when Jinnah invoked Hindu-Muslim division and demanded partition relentlessly.

@ghairhaqeeqattv9460 Ай бұрын

This discussion is fruitful. And I find Ayesha Jalal more pragmatic and her approach to contextualize and appreciate history in a holistic manner is laudable.

@yjkbuddy Ай бұрын

Ayesha jalal sits in europe and talks about our history

@SunilSharma-cw4qp Ай бұрын

Why did not all muslims in India follow Pakistani dreams and stayed in India even after voting for muslims league.

@ghairhaqeeqattv9460 Ай бұрын

Jinnah put everything on the line and here we are debating whether he was a British agent 😂.

@AKumar-co7oe Ай бұрын

@@ghairhaqeeqattv9460 what did he put on the line? he didn't even want to give up his bombay house!

@davidbond8044 28 күн бұрын

Jinnah father and mother were Hindus , they converted to Islam when Jinnah was 17 years old . Many people don’t know about his background

@criticalthinker5764 Ай бұрын

Maybe absence of federation . But the elephant in the room is .. Tooo much religion now a days

@megasthenes. 27 күн бұрын

I think she is fair in saying Congress didn't agree to Jinnah's demand for separate Muslim electorates, but where she goes into speculative tangents is when she says that this was because of "Congress not agreeing at the behest of Hindu mahasabha". I think the reason Congress rejected Jinnah's suggestion was based on a tenet that's the cornerstone of Indian democracy that electorates won't be defined based on religious or communal grounds. And the moth eaten version that India and erstwhile Congress has to chew was a choice between communal electorates and partition for those who were adamant on that. We chose the latter to prevent any future divisions.

@IndiaHereNow Ай бұрын

She is now a slave to what she has said before in her books. She is different to Indian historians who do not fear critising their heroes. If Jinnah was not a slave to the British, how come he did not ever go to jail while others did. What is the contribution of Jinnah in the freedom struggle of the subcontinent while he was quick to take a chunk of the land when it became evident. Nothing has changed about Pakistanis, claim everything, contribute nothing. Did Nehru forced Jinnah to takeover the state of Kalat/Balochistan? Shame!

@yjkbuddy Ай бұрын

Call ishtiaq ahmed... her theories are all flawed

@Pak-Onion Ай бұрын

If Dr. Ayesh recommend one book by Mr. Jina where he put his thoughts I would agree with her all arguments about Jina

@swagatabhaumik978 27 күн бұрын

Looks like she trying to argue congress policies pushed jinnah towards demand for partition. But events suggest that he was alwsys toying with the idea and just looked for excuses to vehemently push it. Had he been committed to remain united, some compromising ways could always been found. He did not want to compromise.

@fsbajwa9981 Ай бұрын

It has now proved the the decision of partition was wrong ..................plz let it go now

@QabilAGhor Ай бұрын

Go to 15:53

@SaurabhSingh-zv1kf Ай бұрын

Partition was good for India.

@QabilAGhor Ай бұрын

@@SaurabhSingh-zv1kf I absolutely agree. It saved Hinduism and Sikh religions. Otherwise, Muslims would have eventually converted lot more people to Islam. Abdul Kalam Azad was not totally wrong that all of India would become Muslim if there is no Partition.

@shubhammittal9003 Ай бұрын

Yes he was the sole spokesperson of the muslims and as an indian i thank jinnah for creating pakistan..no hatred for him..

@Amazing-Voices Ай бұрын

Then why your country creat mess with us Kashmiri language culture religion writing scripts are similar to what is now Pakistan and strategically it's important for Pakistan Pakistani rivers flow from there they are unsafe in India hands India can divert our rivers to Rajasthan.

@shubhammittal9003 Ай бұрын

@@Amazing-Voicesi am saying by creating Pakistan he has done a favour for us..if partition wouldn't happend India would have been in the muslim dominance ..many reports say that till 2050 India will be the largest Muslim country in the world .if partition wouldn't happen then Pakistanis and bangladseshi muslim would have been living here also..Jinnah hindu dominance theory was utter noncence the propaganda which he spread . And yes religion same hone se culture same ni hote ..who says to u that kashmiri language and culture are same as Pakistanis..apne apne mulk me sare subo ke mukhtalif culture ko khtm karke sirf islam ko thopa hai....

@parjanyashukla176 Ай бұрын

@@Amazing-Voices Kashmiri language original script is Sharada.

@TingTong2568 Ай бұрын

@@parjanyashukla176 islam is not native to India

@youthiapaa Ай бұрын

read Ishtiyak Ahmad , not Ayesha Jalal ... if u want to know the truth ... hundreds of times Dr. Ishtiyak challanged her , she never responded !

@vinayaksharma8101 18 күн бұрын

Partition was the exact opposite of what was good for Islam. It split Muslims in 3 units and gave Hindus to become powerful before the decisive war .

@aanakrukavi Ай бұрын

Sir pls bring Prof Ishtiaque Ahmed to give another POV.

@Shrvp Ай бұрын

Dr Jalal and Prof Ishtiak Ahmed hate each other. They are often at each other's throats. Ayesha Jalal doesn't believe that the professor is a historian. He in turn finds holes in her thesis.

@AKumar-co7oe Ай бұрын

she's a ducking liar

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

Prof ishtiaq Ahmed reflected on scholar Nasim Yousaf thoughts

@rajeevdatta8881 23 күн бұрын

JINNAH was an excellent lawyer, when he started loosing his argument of MUSLIMS IN DANGER he swiftly changed IT to ISLAM IN DANGER AS A GOOD LAWYER WOULD DO, he was neither a STATESMAN NOR A GOOD LEADER, only a good Lawyer WHO WON THE CASE FOR PAKISTAN BY HOOK OR CROOK

@arifsaleem5467 Ай бұрын

The only question which always comes to my mind and bothers me because there is no reasonable answer, is why Britishers dividend India. Every other thing, though most of it is also important, is secondary.

@manjulmayankshukla7852 Ай бұрын

It's better to have Dr ishtiyaq Ahmad view on jinna much more clear

@skrishnamoorthy8958 21 күн бұрын

According to Jinnah himself contribution for making Pakistan are only Jinnah & his typewriter only, nobody could have created Pakistan as per Jinnah argument.

@sandipjoshi1200 Ай бұрын

Ayesha jalal has been challenged by Prof ishtiaq Ahmed about her thesis on Jinnah. Unfortunately Ayesha has not taken the challenge, because she is not competent enough.

@ViewsNewsChannel Ай бұрын

Prof ishtiaq Ahmed reflected on scholar Nasim Yousaf thoughts

@YaminVlogs-dehradub Ай бұрын

Look closely at her face.. she herself looks like a British agent.😢

@shatnermohanty6678 Ай бұрын

21:34 so that what is all about . Jinnah was jealous that Gandhi "stole his show " So all the mayhem of partition , the multiple wars , lingering conflicts till date all owe their origins to Jinnah's SHOW

@TaleTwist-AP 25 күн бұрын

I think history should be present in a way the history is shaped! What he wanted is not in the current context. His speeches telling a lot! If Pakistani is solely dependent on individual history then the events shouldn’t be ignored to fulfil our own desires… none of the Pakistani historian provided a plan events without speculating! It’s so strange

@ChefbyMistake Ай бұрын

He was a Gujurati Thug.

@atmaramsingh3136 13 күн бұрын

How do we square these arguments with West(Britain) breaking Ottoman Empire even AustroPrussian empire?

@Amit-j2s Ай бұрын

apparently, Ayesga Halal married to Subhash Chandra Bose's grandson, and definitely tried to convert him🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

@safdarakbari Ай бұрын

Thank god there is a counter narrative to Prof Ishtiaq. You should also interview Javed Jabbar on this topic.

@ghairhaqeeqattv9460 Ай бұрын

Jinnah was a diplomat, a statesman and a politician. A true politician always keeps open his channels. That's why he got the subcontinent partitioned with his legal and political acumen, without the power of sword or gun.

@nazrulchowdhury4829 26 күн бұрын

Bangladesh was never curved out of Pakistan to establish the rule of law and social justice, improve and uplift the economic and social conditions of impoverished masses of the country. It was created for the elites who felt utterly disadvantaged in every fields in comparison to their compatriots in the west, particularly Punjabis. Similarly, Pakistan was never created on the notion to improve the lots of impoverished, uneducated Muslim population of the subcontinent in order to provide them social justice. It was also not created to establish an Islamic state for Muslims either. It was created for the interests of Muslim elites who were finding it difficult to compete with Hindu elites at the time and was fearful of future domination by these Hindu elites. Now, is there any difference between a poor Hindu, poor Pakistani, or a poor Bangali? They are all in the same conditions with no dignity and are treated like domestic servants by their respective elites. It's an elite capture of power in these countries, who in the guise of politicians, bureaucrats, military, judges, landlords, and businessmen enjoying all the benefits of these so-called independent countries, like the colonial British rulers used to enjoy in the past. When two zamindars fight for lands, their lathials fight physically, not themselves. Similarly, for fulfilling their own aspirations, these elites tacitly ignited violence, planting religious intolerances in the minds of the general people, encouraging them to fight against one another. The general masses were used as fodders for their cannons to fulfil their cherished aspirations in establishing their dominance over the echelons of powers in these newly created countries. Some may express their feelings through poems, songs and writings, but nothing is going to happen or change unless the general masses get up from their deep sleep and throw these elites along with the inherited colonial systems in the Indian ocean to establish a new order, new beginning for these countries. Thanks.

@jyotsnasharma8975 28 күн бұрын

How come Jinnah was never prisoned by the British ? Nehru spent more than nine years in prison . Gandhi , Patel all were put behind bars . Dr Jalal is only doing a poor white wash job .

@FarwahKhan650 28 күн бұрын

She is very true. Those who are against her are ignorant

@zainabk9165 Ай бұрын

Zinna cheated Muslim by leaving billions in India after fulfil of his dream to become Viceroi. The karma return ,Punjabi jihadi gave him painful end

@TruthCanvasMedia 17 күн бұрын

Interesting interview. Dr. Jalal is right, Jinnah alone was not the reason for partition. Its more complex than that - power struggle between Jinnah and Congress, Hindu/Muslim issues both played their part. But some of her views on present India are simplistic too. Yes, there is a constant push and pull between secularism and Hindu dominance lately, what she underestimates is that India, while not perfect, the policies that Nehru, Patel and their cabinet put together is what held India together vs breaking into chaos like it happened in Pakistan. They were not perfect people, but they did reasonably well under the circumstances. Do watch "India Pakistan Diverging Destinies: Cautionary Lessons for Proponents of Hindu Rashtra" that talks about the policy differences post 1947 that set the countries apart on a different course. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpKno32YqJ6sqM0

@shatnermohanty6678 Ай бұрын

STUPIDITY is the only word that can define the person who is saying at 25:14 that "perpetuating the colonial system with it's racial structure which have been used against Muslims , against Dalits by the upper castes " Isn't the person aware that India has had Muslim and Dalit Presidents as well as Millionaires apart from so many other fields ?

@SalmanAmjad-ro6js Ай бұрын

Agents are taken care of and are not put in jail by the establishment as we saw in the case of Jinnah unlike other politicians of that era

@hamzasohee 2 күн бұрын

Criminals go to jail

@factytop10s45 18 күн бұрын

The problem with nri is they want to improve the country without living in it .nobody asked punjabis what they wanted punjab suffered the most and still are suffering more pakistani side less so on i dian side

@shubhammittal9003 Ай бұрын

Her views on nehru and congress is utter noncense..

@srinathmitta661 Ай бұрын

Ayesha's intellectual insincerity stems from her inferiority complex. She is trying to put a non-existent visionary halo around Jinnah's head. For instance, look at the logic of seeking the division of the subcontinent on the name of religion, but also demanding united Punjab and Bengal in the name of language. Ayesha's works were laid to rest by Pakistani scholars like Farzana Sheikh and Ishtiaq Ahmed. One can , however, understand Rumi's endeavour as a typical Pakistani "liberal"'s effort to prop up heroes for a country that is deprived of visionary leadership !

@ramzan6949 Ай бұрын

A person motive can understand by his action, not conspiracy theory. Muhammad Ali jinahh worked for the rights of community, so he made Pakistan. If Pakistan wasn’t built the Muslim community as a minority in India wouldn't get rights in economically, societally, jobs etc. Caste system is also active in India today, So, India caste society would treat Muslim if Pakistan wasn’t built, it is imaginable.

@dattaprasadjoshi6191 28 күн бұрын

90% pakistanis have hindu roots, hindu past and hindu ancestry.

@punhall Ай бұрын

she's genius. an icon indeed.

@factytop10s45 18 күн бұрын

Really divide the muslim population in 3 parts if there was no partition they would have a larger stake in undivided india but now pakistan is an example of what happens when you concentrate all extremist in one place that's why this lady is in america

@mbsalsaudal Ай бұрын

The First Question is Does JINHA was a Muslims ???? He just converted Few Year Back before Partition . He wanted his name to be founder & Indian were already occupied with Gandhi and Nehru , So he Converted and created a Pakistan ..Which is now a Beggar State and More insecure state than SOMALIA

@AgnelloAffonso-xp5gm Ай бұрын

Jinnah a secrt society uk freemason not muslim

@dwirajesh Ай бұрын

This is the most secular scholar in Pakistan ?? No wonder the whole country is going to the gutter of Islam ...please do come and invite the Pakistani minded muslims from India to settle there ...and enjoy the islamic republic u all created with jinnah as the leader ...bravo amazing pakistan 😅

@TajNawabKhattak-hs4dp Ай бұрын

If any one have any doubt about Mr. Jannah, he was not a British agent he should immediately consult mental Dr

@arsalakhan8098 Ай бұрын

I am a mental health specialist, you should begin with getting assessed. The many Slumdogs barking here proves their inability to engage in a proper dialogue, but rather crash in on others' debates.

@hasanmiraj6182 18 күн бұрын

Jinnah haters. Shameful.

@ashu12357 Ай бұрын

Another Romila Thapar of Pakistan….. no substance

@arunsharma4334 23 күн бұрын

Naieve to think muslims today in a united India who would be the majority community now would be disenfranchised by the cunning baniya

@ziaulkhaled1784 Ай бұрын

So, what is two nation theory, if it is not a Hindu Muslim issue?

@RockPaperSizzer-ud6gd Ай бұрын

Salute to the host for showing tremendous patience. Dr Jalal must have plethora of knowledge but she needs to learn the art of courtesy and conversation for not to cut other person speaking. I lost interest half way through the video due to her discourtesy.

@yjkbuddy Ай бұрын

Clearly from rumis face i can say that he didnt agree on most of her views

@criticalthinker5764 Ай бұрын

Uniformity in the nation is a problem. India has diversity

@bhavyamankad479 14 күн бұрын

The lady is talking down to the "listeners" as if only she has the access of all the knowledge in the world.

@SulemanAbbas-jp3im Ай бұрын

too much talk too little info.

@mohsinmumtaz2390 Ай бұрын

Jinnah was visionary leader. He knew that Muslims cant live with Hindus as first citizen.... Thanks jinnah. ❤

@cmm750 Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Why Bangadesh muslims can't live with Pakistani muslim..? Thank Jinnah 😂😂😂😂 for creating new country .?

@dwirajesh Ай бұрын

So now muslims will live under talibans ...save ur ammas and ammis

@SaurabhSingh-zv1kf Ай бұрын

Thanks Jinnah for removing cancer from India but due stupidity of our leaders, we failed in population exchange.. Muslims can't leave with any non Muxlim due to teaching of Muhmd. They cannot live with in them selves.